I want this to be true just so the sequel trilogy brings something more meaningful to Star Wars. It's like the jar jar theory all over again with fan backlash and all. However... that would be too much forethought and risk for Disney on a 4 billion dollar investment.
Such a dope and badass theory! All 8 episodes now make so much more sense. Episodes 1-3 is the rise of Sith via Jedi Training (Anakin). Episodes 4-6 is Grey (Luke). Episodes 7-9 is rise of Jedi via Sith training (Ben). Luke balances everything out... and no one told Mark Hamil! In the video games, novels, and graph novels/comics, the Sith always seems to be cloning, trying to clone, or have secret apprentices... The equivalent to EP 5 "No, I am your father" quote will be "Rey is a Sith double agent". I assumed the cave scene in episode 8 would reveal Rey as a Skywalker - as I am sure all of Planet Earth assumed this too - showed us that Rey is not a Skywalker... so this theory closes some plot holes.
Would all be great. I think she has a Palatine connection, which will probably tempt her to the dark as it did Luke finding out about his father. The Skywalker that is rising is going to either be Ben Solo, or else some spiritual form of Luke.
Palpatine at the source of all of it! He created Annakin, hence creating Luke, Leia, and Kylo. He created Rey. He allowed the Empire to be destroyed, knowing the First Order would rise. Which was his plan. He has been playing all sides to ensure victory!!! Just like he did in Episodes 1-3 with the Trade Federation. But it will be up to the light in the Skywalkers (Luke and Kylo) in Episode 9 to defeat Palpatine, and Sith Rey. Which is why Palpatine is returning and the film is called The Rise of Skywalker. Not the Rise of Luke...just Skywalker. It will take his force ghost working through Kylo...THE LAST SKYWALKER to defeat Palpatine, the First Order and Sith Rey!
I like this theory. The Good and Evil themes of the original movies flip flop into the prequels. Then the newer garbage titles - of which I cannot hate enough - Seems to flip flop again. Watch, they'll make the Sith the Good Guys and the Jedi the bad guys. (Jedi vs Mandolorians, q.v.)
DC comics awhile back had a Superman/ Flash series about multiple realities. Kind of like Marvel End Game. Nearly the same quantum reality but moving at a different time speed so crossing over from one reality to another appears as Time Travel. " Comic books," are thoughts and dreams passing from one reality into another. Writers and artists don't " create " the stories/ movies we watch, they just write down the histories that are whisper into their sub concise.
Rey is Shmi stuck in a loop in which Emperor had sent her into the past. Anakin is going to break that loop and fulfill his destiny as the one that brings true balance to the force, a 1000 year old prophecy. That is why Rey can see multiple images of herself in the mirrors, the loop has happened over and over, it is not clones. The son is going to save his mother as Anakin said he would, he would be more powerful than anyone.
Ok I was skeptical at first like had me hardcore eye rolling in the beginning but the more I listened the more sense it does make. I have seen some other dark Rey theories and it could definitely be happening. Nice Video on to part 2
much more rational that what he is suggested. of course, we know the truth now. he was sorta right, but only about the video title, sorta, and your right about the rest. but there is none of the secret agent, double agent, back handed, etc.. stuff suggested in this video. there is a very good reason she has all the skills and stuff she has. and its got nothing to do with being a mary sue (one could say the same thing about Leia, or any other female jedi, but its because they are a jedi they have these above average skills, and Rey is a very special very powerful jedi/sith, the most powerful of all), or being an already trained sith undercover agent.
"I find your lack of faith disturbing" Glad I'm not the only one who thinks of the psychological side of what goes on. Awesome, liked subbed and hit the bell 🤖
Better explanation: Replace all the times you said ray in the video with palpatine.He used that dark force ability that allows him to boost people's skills and BAM.You have an episode 9 that makes sense and why rey is a palpatine.
Rey was created by palpatine from the medacloreans snoke was created first but an incomplete first run hence the disfigured body. Palpatine learned this from Plagus before killing him in his sleep. Your welcome, we know none of these are true and Disney just destroyed all star wars lore but this is all we have left and its fun. And yes Rey is just a shitty Marisue.
All this would be perfect, especially since we all now know Rey is a Palpatine, however, unfortunately Disnay won’t make her into the villain or allow her to lose, especially to a man. So, unless they are willing to subvert expectations to the point that the “Skywalker saga” ends with the Sith ultimately being triumphant.
I really like this theory, and while it's got some flaws and shit that just isnt really likely, I think its overall likelihood is high, a d if it DID happen then that DAYUM would that redeem this trilogy
After a week of knowing of the force she starts to use it? She never noticed anything in the past? A feeling? Or moving something with her mind? It's like she was on sleep mode till a certain time.
I wish the story can be redeemed and that the story writing was this thought out. Kathleen the Feminist would not allow a female to be the “bad guy”.. I mean girl!
Only way for the sequels to make sense. No way a force sensitive being with Sith blood and medichlorians is just a Mary Sue Jedi. Rey is the Empress... has no family, and all the power of grandpa.
This makes more sense then the actual movie! So much, that a part of me believes this is what they were supposed to write! Its soo much more clever and intriguing! makes perfect sense for the combat
As you say. It is a crazy idea. Almost believable if we only look at episode 7. Yet it suffers from 2 flaws if you take episode 8 and 9 into consideration. How do you explain her composure around Luke and the jedi outfit with a yellow lightsaber at the end of episode 9. These 2 facts go against the idea that Rey is a Sith. First of all Rey wears a jedi outfit and has a yellow lightsaber at the end of chapter 9 when all Siths wear black and have red lightsabers due to the corruption of the force and crystal. Burying the lightsabes on Tatooine when her mission is complete and successful since all possible opponents from Luke and Snoke to the emperor and Ben are now dead leaving her way clear to become the new empress why does she not wear black and yield a red lightsaber? Also we know that eventually raw emotion get the upper hand of all Sith Masters and Lords. It was the emperor's overconfidence that caused his demise in episode 6. It was Darth Vader's deep hatred that got him to turn on the emperor especially since the emperor betrayed him by telling Luke to kill him and replace him as the emperor's new apprentice. Likewise Ben's rage caused him to have anger outbursts. So if Rey is a Sith Master or Lord who wanted Luke dead how did she manage to keep her composure around Luke and leave Luke without trying to kill him if this was her intention all along? Yes I agree that Rey is a force sensitive and highly trained in the force and combat skills and could be a sleeper agent but this doesn't automatically make her a Sith or a Sith agent. She could be a grey jedi or somelike like Leah who though force sensitive isn't a jedi or sith. She could also belong to another order like the knights of the eternal throne one mentioned in the old republic where for a time SIth and Jedi, the republic and empire had to join forces to destroy the emperor and fleet of the eternal throne.
Everybody has their own view n opinion. I didn't quite see things this way. But interesting. Rey grew up on an planet w lots of traders n picked up many different languages. Also was familiar w the millennium falcon cause she was left in the care of the guy who owned it n owned the junkyard n traded parts for food or credits... Growing up on jakku , she learned a lot , just like Luke who grew up on tattoine desert planet also
She is a fucking sith. And I do chalk it up to bad writing. Disney had no idea what in the hell they were doing, and they sure as hell don't understand the Star Wars galaxy.
I disagree as far as R2 goes. Luke senced Rey and needed separate her from Leia, after what she just did to Han. R2 is no ordinary droid, if he felt someone becides Luke using the Force on him, he would fry himself.
If this turns out to be true it could save the whole trilogy and make you rethink the last few films entirely.... maybe Kylo turns into the actual savior he was always supposed to be? Or maybe not...
ABSOLUTELY what I concluded ...she will be a Sith lord. More powerful than Vader, because she's a chick :0) and the chicks are taking over Hollywood's leading roles nowadays... we love it, good job Disney
Wow this has so many holes Shia LaBeouf got excited and popped a pup tent... and the "evidence" Rey is a Sith is weaker than lil Michael Jackson's wrist while chasing a young Macaulay Culkin and River Phoenix and looking for that booty
Why do you have that creepy/paranoid music playing? Cool video in many ways, but your tone and the music make it sound like one of those crazy political conspiracy videos made by a schizophrenic person.
Eduisit I agree, I’m half awake and had to turn on a light to continue listening to this documentary. After watching the new film this is totally accurate. I’m glad I found this video now. It’s creepy asf actually, that back ground music and how evil Rey is.
“Lives in a shack.” She lives in the goddamn AT AT walker. Jesus Christ I can’t believe I watched this. And then people will get mad when this ridiculous fantasy doesn’t come true. Smh.
It makes sense now.. Rise of the Skywalker is obviously Kylo, who discovers Ray's true identity and intentions in which he opposes, with Palpatine re-appearing in the Trailer, which means there's a connection between Palps & Rey, The New Order ends up battling out with the Empire as you could see a huge fleet of Star Destroyers in formation heading towards Starkiller base. The new order basically becomes the rebellion and Kylo seduces himself into the light-side. After all if Palpatine is back, who's the "Apprentice"?? If they pull off a JarJar Binks with Ray i will take back everything i said about Disney's Star Wars!
Your story is much better than the actual movie.
27:17 Maybe Rey is familiar with Empire tech because of life long scavenging of Empire tech?
Are you a psychological-warfare major? This is amazingly convincing. And you're right, "Rey is as cute and lovable as Palpatine was in Ep:1."
This would be such a turn of events. Very creative interpretation either way!
This is the only thing that will redeem the sequel trilogy.
It's more than obvious that Rey falls to the dark side
Yay
Foreal lol
I want this to be true just so the sequel trilogy brings something more meaningful to Star Wars. It's like the jar jar theory all over again with fan backlash and all. However... that would be too much forethought and risk for Disney on a 4 billion dollar investment.
Rey isn't a Sith spy but she does turn to the dark side.
This makes the movie so much more interesting. And it explains way more.
Such a dope and badass theory! All 8 episodes now make so much more sense.
Episodes 1-3 is the rise of Sith via Jedi Training (Anakin). Episodes 4-6 is Grey (Luke). Episodes 7-9 is rise of Jedi via Sith training (Ben).
Luke balances everything out... and no one told Mark Hamil!
In the video games, novels, and graph novels/comics, the Sith always seems to be cloning, trying to clone, or have secret apprentices...
The equivalent to EP 5 "No, I am your father" quote will be "Rey is a Sith double agent". I assumed the cave scene in episode 8 would reveal Rey as a Skywalker - as I am sure all of Planet Earth assumed this too - showed us that Rey is not a Skywalker... so this theory closes some plot holes.
Where’s the unsolved mysteries, twilight zone theme or X-files music???
Struck for copyright, but there in spirit
Why dont you have like 200k views on this theory! If this is true. These episodes are redeamable
and if it isn't, it goes down as the worst star wars movie
Would all be great. I think she has a Palatine connection, which will probably tempt her to the dark as it did Luke finding out about his father. The Skywalker that is rising is going to either be Ben Solo, or else some spiritual form of Luke.
Theres a D23 image of her wearing black robes with a red duel saber. I dont know if it was a fan image.
Yoda is a Mary Sue
Palpatine at the source of all of it! He created Annakin, hence creating Luke, Leia, and Kylo. He created Rey. He allowed the Empire to be destroyed, knowing the First Order would rise. Which was his plan. He has been playing all sides to ensure victory!!! Just like he did in Episodes 1-3 with the Trade Federation. But it will be up to the light in the Skywalkers (Luke and Kylo) in Episode 9 to defeat Palpatine, and Sith Rey. Which is why Palpatine is returning and the film is called The Rise of Skywalker. Not the Rise of Luke...just Skywalker. It will take his force ghost working through Kylo...THE LAST SKYWALKER to defeat Palpatine, the First Order and Sith Rey!
You mean Darth Plagueis, Palpatine's master? He created Anakin, not Palpatine.
He didn't create Anakin
12.21.2019, the day after Rise. He was so close. Then at the last minute Rey exercised her free will, and changed her destiny.
You called it you intellectual beast
You have earnwd my sub and like sir. This was amazing and so detailed. Good job
I like this theory. The Good and Evil themes of the original movies flip flop into the prequels. Then the newer garbage titles - of which I cannot hate enough - Seems to flip flop again.
Watch, they'll make the Sith the Good Guys and the Jedi the bad guys.
(Jedi vs Mandolorians, q.v.)
DC comics awhile back had a Superman/ Flash series about multiple realities.
Kind of like Marvel End Game. Nearly the same quantum reality but moving at a different time speed so crossing over from one reality to another appears as Time Travel.
" Comic books," are thoughts and dreams passing from one reality into another.
Writers and artists don't " create " the stories/ movies we watch, they just write down the histories that are whisper
into their sub concise.
"Your the sith lord"
ah it is like jar jar binks all over again - to good to be true probably
This is remarkable for the effort and pointers that lead to the same thing : sith =dark side= experienced pilot = Rey is a sith
Gotta say DAMN!!!! you really did your homework on this one. I've only ever gone this deep on Marvel movies. Thanks for the theory.
I remain to be convinced but your voice is perfect for this narrative.
Rey is Shmi stuck in a loop in which Emperor had sent her into the past. Anakin is going to break that loop and fulfill his destiny as the one that brings true balance to the force, a 1000 year old prophecy. That is why Rey can see multiple images of herself in the mirrors, the loop has happened over and over, it is not clones. The son is going to save his mother as Anakin said he would, he would be more powerful than anyone.
Ok I was skeptical at first like had me hardcore eye rolling in the beginning but the more I listened the more sense it does make. I have seen some other dark Rey theories and it could definitely be happening.
Nice Video on to part 2
Ya I agree it would make the amount of powers she has make sense but let's be honest kk will never do that to Rey
I'm accepting this as canon and no one can stop me.
4 years later…Still Priceless!
Man not only is this the best and most legitimate theory ever, but I find Rey to be the dopest Star Wars character of all time
Foh
Finn is as well, and the staff she carries is a double ended light saber. had Just like Darth Maul
Damn. This is amazing. Looking forward to episode 2 of this theory!
i believe however that this theory could very well be true with some tweaks...like she is a relative of palpatine or being controlled by palpatine
much more rational that what he is suggested. of course, we know the truth now. he was sorta right, but only about the video title, sorta, and your right about the rest. but there is none of the secret agent, double agent, back handed, etc.. stuff suggested in this video. there is a very good reason she has all the skills and stuff she has. and its got nothing to do with being a mary sue (one could say the same thing about Leia, or any other female jedi, but its because they are a jedi they have these above average skills, and Rey is a very special very powerful jedi/sith, the most powerful of all), or being an already trained sith undercover agent.
Had this theory been true, it would have made for a much better movie than what we got.
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks of the psychological side of what goes on.
Awesome, liked subbed and hit the bell 🤖
REY IS A SITH NOW JUST CONFIRMED
Yes - but why is Rey hiding from The first order if she is sith? Aren’t they on the same side?
What if finn turns out to be the real bad guy. Kinda like how jar jar was supposed to be a sith lord originally
OMG, I so hope that this is the way it turns out, if not, I am going to force change my memory so that it does in my mind,...lol,...well done.
Better explanation: Replace all the times you said ray in the video with palpatine.He used that dark force ability that allows him to boost people's skills and BAM.You have an episode 9 that makes sense and why rey is a palpatine.
It's a great theory, but too good to be true.
Why?
Aaaaaand they just confirmed it lol
Rey was created by palpatine from the medacloreans snoke was created first but an incomplete first run hence the disfigured body. Palpatine learned this from Plagus before killing him in his sleep. Your welcome, we know none of these are true and Disney just destroyed all star wars lore but this is all we have left and its fun. And yes Rey is just a shitty Marisue.
100% Right. The background music was creepy.
PLEASE ENJOY SW9!!
Help me, Is Rey's baby is a dark side or jedi?
SW Fan ever before
How is this not bigger lolol
Rey Palpatine 🤐🤔
All this would be perfect, especially since we all now know Rey is a Palpatine, however, unfortunately Disnay won’t make her into the villain or allow her to lose, especially to a man. So, unless they are willing to subvert expectations to the point that the “Skywalker saga” ends with the Sith ultimately being triumphant.
I really like this theory, and while it's got some flaws and shit that just isnt really likely, I think its overall likelihood is high, a d if it DID happen then that DAYUM would that redeem this trilogy
Me you sir were hypnotized by his fuzzy screen
🤣🤣🤣🤣 See, this is the sort of excuse for a shitty character I can get behind.
Such a great way to look at it. Just like dark jar jar it actually makes the movies watchable well done!
After a week of knowing of the force she starts to use it? She never noticed anything in the past? A feeling? Or moving something with her mind? It's like she was on sleep mode till a certain time.
I wish the story can be redeemed and that the story writing was this thought out. Kathleen the Feminist would not allow a female to be the “bad guy”.. I mean girl!
Cue the twilight zone music...
Only way for the sequels to make sense. No way a force sensitive being with Sith blood and medichlorians is just a Mary Sue Jedi.
Rey is the Empress... has no family, and all the power of grandpa.
I love watching these 2 videos they are interessting, and fun to watch.
Big twist possible where Kylo defeats evil Rey. Could be really interesting and different, but not going to happen.
Omg. All of my questions were address here. 😱Can't wait what's the next star wars movie unfold.
I so want this to be true
3:37 no it was just in there. to see absolutely movie miracle training failed he noy want be bad guy lol
This makes more sense then the actual movie! So much, that a part of me believes this is what they were supposed to write! Its soo much more clever and intriguing! makes perfect sense for the combat
Yep
As you say. It is a crazy idea. Almost believable if we only look at episode 7. Yet it suffers from 2 flaws if you take episode 8 and 9 into consideration. How do you explain her composure around Luke and the jedi outfit with a yellow lightsaber at the end of episode 9. These 2 facts go against the idea that Rey is a Sith.
First of all Rey wears a jedi outfit and has a yellow lightsaber at the end of chapter 9 when all Siths wear black and have red lightsabers due to the corruption of the force and crystal. Burying the lightsabes on Tatooine when her mission is complete and successful since all possible opponents from Luke and Snoke to the emperor and Ben are now dead leaving her way clear to become the new empress why does she not wear black and yield a red lightsaber?
Also we know that eventually raw emotion get the upper hand of all Sith Masters and Lords. It was the emperor's overconfidence that caused his demise in episode 6. It was Darth Vader's deep hatred that got him to turn on the emperor especially since the emperor betrayed him by telling Luke to kill him and replace him as the emperor's new apprentice. Likewise Ben's rage caused him to have anger outbursts. So if Rey is a Sith Master or Lord who wanted Luke dead how did she manage to keep her composure around Luke and leave Luke without trying to kill him if this was her intention all along?
Yes I agree that Rey is a force sensitive and highly trained in the force and combat skills and could be a sleeper agent but this doesn't automatically make her a Sith or a Sith agent. She could be a grey jedi or somelike like Leah who though force sensitive isn't a jedi or sith. She could also belong to another order like the knights of the eternal throne one mentioned in the old republic where for a time SIth and Jedi, the republic and empire had to join forces to destroy the emperor and fleet of the eternal throne.
Where is part 2 sir?
Yes! All of it....yes.
She’s a clone of jar jar sith
Bravo sir! bravo
Captain whispers over here.
Everybody has their own view n opinion. I didn't quite see things this way. But interesting. Rey grew up on an planet w lots of traders n picked up many different languages. Also was familiar w the millennium falcon cause she was left in the care of the guy who owned it n owned the junkyard n traded parts for food or credits... Growing up on jakku , she learned a lot , just like Luke who grew up on tattoine desert planet also
She is a fucking sith. And I do chalk it up to bad writing. Disney had no idea what in the hell they were doing, and they sure as hell don't understand the Star Wars galaxy.
I disagree as far as R2 goes. Luke senced Rey and needed separate her from Leia, after what she just did to Han. R2 is no ordinary droid, if he felt someone becides Luke using the Force on him, he would fry himself.
Great content, but please never use that white noise/static edit ever again. Had to force myself to finish the video.
D bahaha Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen
Wish i didn't have to, but it's the only way i was able to get it past youtube's copyright content system. Cheers
If this turns out to be true it could save the whole trilogy and make you rethink the last few films entirely.... maybe Kylo turns into the actual savior he was always supposed to be? Or maybe not...
I guess jar jar was her master as well
YES! She has the power of Darth Plagieus The Wise. Bringing back the dead. Rey Palpatine is a Sith Lord. 😈
ABSOLUTELY what I concluded ...she will be a Sith lord. More powerful than Vader, because she's a chick :0) and the chicks are taking over Hollywood's leading roles nowadays... we love it, good job Disney
As ridiculously absurd as the theory sounds, it would make for a good finale. It still would not save episode 7 and 8.
*In order to be a true Sith you must be badass. Rey is not. Maybe she's a Mary Sith*
Carlos, she's been a Sith this whole time. THAT is badass trickery and writing. Suck it up.
Lol
Tell that to Kathleen Kennedy, the force is female remember.
Chi Rho your a fucking Genius
This would be the only way Star Wars would redeem themselves
The only name said correctly in this vid was Rey
Her father is Dart Sidios , so you are right !
I doubt it
Wow this has so many holes Shia LaBeouf got excited and popped a pup tent... and the "evidence" Rey is a Sith is weaker than lil Michael Jackson's wrist while chasing a young Macaulay Culkin and River Phoenix and looking for that booty
the first 10 minutes were amazing
*Then happens*
23:30 - ya this is all benefiting from really bad writing and no fucking plan. Funny video though.
I have another conspiracy theory: this video is not a conspiracy theory, but a cynical and sarcastic critique of sub-par writing.
Why do you have that creepy/paranoid music playing? Cool video in many ways, but your tone and the music make it sound like one of those crazy political conspiracy videos made by a schizophrenic person.
Eduisit I agree, I’m half awake and had to turn on a light to continue listening to this documentary. After watching the new film this is totally accurate. I’m glad I found this video now. It’s creepy asf actually, that back ground music and how evil Rey is.
“Lives in a shack.” She lives in the goddamn AT AT walker. Jesus Christ I can’t believe I watched this. And then people will get mad when this ridiculous fantasy doesn’t come true. Smh.
This does fit the narrative of Rey. She is Luke’s lost/hidden daughter. I think she is the real prophesy of the chosen one.
Nah thats palpatines grandchild lol
This is some Thrawn level stuff.
here we go again... so many theories and at the end you all will be so upset just like it happened with Game of Thrones lol
This goes to show that the last 3 movies were s bad, people are just making up shit so that it makes sense.
who made this?
He sounds like shoenice
It makes sense now.. Rise of the Skywalker is obviously Kylo, who discovers Ray's true identity and intentions in which he opposes, with Palpatine re-appearing in the Trailer, which means there's a connection between Palps & Rey, The New Order ends up battling out with the Empire as you could see a huge fleet of Star Destroyers in formation heading towards Starkiller base. The new order basically becomes the rebellion and Kylo seduces himself into the light-side. After all if Palpatine is back, who's the "Apprentice"?? If they pull off a JarJar Binks with Ray i will take back everything i said about Disney's Star Wars!
this is a reach as its likley all due to bad writing...but i like it and will hold out hope for the last movie
Light side is not holy water to sith.
Remember Revan was using both...
What is sin is really the Jedi
I knew it she is the sith and kylo is a potential jedi
Luke went from white to black so there goes yourTheory
Aye yeah maybe g.
and he is not? there is no theory he is. there only theory he is not. and finally its allbout choosing
MY phone exploded after watching this!