Hill 170 - The Battle of Kangaw - Commandos in Burma
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Hill 170 - The Battle of Kangaw
With Lucy Betteridge-Dyson
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The Battle of Hill 170 was fought in January 1945 in the Chin Hills, part of the Arakan Peninsula. The 3rd British Commando Brigade were given the task of assaulting this area to cut off the supply and escape routes of the Japanese to Rangoon. The battle for Hill 170 was the climax of the Arakan operations, and its outcome broke the spirit of the Japanese 54th Division. Had the commandos' positions fallen, this would have endangered all the Allied units that had landed on the Myebon Peninsula.
After the battle, the commander of the XV Indian Corps - General Sir Philip Christison stated in a special order of the day: "The Battle of Kangaw had been the decisive battle of the whole Arakan campaign and that it was won was very largely due to your magnificent defence of Hill 170."
Joining us to talk about the battle is historian Lucy Betteridge-Dyson. In 2019 Lucy founded Herstory Club which aims to connect women with a passion for history on both a social and professional level. She is a battlefield guide and has worked with the BBC, Commonwealth War Graves Commission and Royal British Legion. ohwhataladylik... @LMBD1418.
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Her ability to describe the conditions really allowed me to picture the scenes in my mind. She's very good. More from Lucy would be most welcome.
Oh you can be sure luck will be back on in the future
Thank you for highlighting the role of the Commando brigade in the Arakan .Great work.
Another great show. Really learning a lot about Burma. Lucy was an excellent speaker.
Superbly presented by Lucy Betteridge-Dyson; a fine tribute that honors all those involved in the Battle of Kangaw and defense of Hill 170.
My Granda Stanley Roast was in 1 commando and earned the MM at 170. Never knew him as he died young 2 yrs before i was born but to hear this account of what happened and the background info about the conditions they all endured is amazing and helps me understand what he went through so much , i believe he never talked about it and didnt feel like he deserved the award as he lost so many friends ... thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing your family story
My dad was in 44 rm commando abd the battle of kangaw hill 170 he also didnt talk about it in detail, the men must have been through so much , my dad passed away at 76 years old and still had nightmares x
My dad also didnt pick up his medals but my sister sent for them, he said there were no heroes (because the heroes were all killed ) and he said we would never hear anything about what happened there and ive searched and searched and am really grateful that you did this thankyou for highlighting it 💙
Another brilliant guest speaker who really knows her stuff.
I had no idea about the Royal Marine commandos being involved in Burma.
Thanks again for all your hard work that goes into making these presentations happen.
You are very welcome. It's a lot of working tracking down guests, planning the show and in my case - doing all my prep
Wasn’t just the RM Commandos there, the Army Commandos, No.1 & No.5 unit’s were there too, within 3 Cdo Bde in the Arakan, No.1 took the brunt of the action on Hill 170. Looking forward to Lucy’s book about it in the future. #UnitedWeConquer 🗡
Lovely stuff! Ashamed I know so little about Burma. Thanks very much.🙏
A brilliant presentation from Lucy. Fighting in Burma must have been arduous, and terrifying.
Burma on my mind; re-listening; my original comment below stands. @WW2TV is on point when he says, "Lucy is brilliant". An incredibly packed presentation with the sidebar audience contributing interesting and appreciated details about their Commando family members in the Battle.
What an amazing show. Lucy knowledge on the Battle of Kangaw is absolutely astounding! I hope Lucy comes back to share more of her knowledge with the WW2TV audience.
She'll be back
I would like to thank you for uploading this episode this on kangaw (Hill 170), as history on 44 comando seems to be really hard to find. My grandad also named Ted was apart of S troop 44 commando was involved in the assault. I went on a motorbiking holiday to Burma, but unfortunately even though I got close to hill 170 was unavailable to visit. If any other means of research or information became available i would greatly appreciate it if you contacted me. Thanks cheers nick
My grandad Fred forrester was there. This is so intriguing to watch this. Thank you.
I hope you enjoy the presentation
My dad was in the 44th as well. My dad only told us funny stories from the war, not the hell he went through. His nickname was Ginger, they all had nicknames.
Thanks to Woody and Lucy for bringing this subject to us. Lucy really knows her stuff! Another great show that illustrates how WW2TV is bringing new voices in history to a wider public. Keep it up!
My dad was there with No5Commando it was savage fighting . Almost primeval
Interesting to see this, my friend Geoff was at Kangaw with 3 Commando. I think he had PTSD, one evening after he'd had half a bottle of whiskey he was telling a friend and I about the fighting ( he never talked about WW2 usually) and was back there in his mind, miming firing his Lanchester and getting very worked up ( PTSD?). Told us about his mate who turned to him and said "Come on Geoff, let's give them some bottle." turned his head back and his face was shot off. Geoff was shooting at an advancing Japanese who he thought was a Korean because he was taller than average, and told us about the Japanese coming up with backpacks on, who were suicide bombers who threw themselves at the British positions and detonated their packs. Hand to hand frantic personal very bloody battles, all close up.
A very quiet man, who was definitely haunted by the experience at all those decades later.
He also told us another time about fighting Indian separatists, which you don't often hear about.
I won't go into the European operations he was on over the war as not pertinent here. Blood out of a stone stuff, but you'd say something innocuous like " When I was in Norway in Kristiansand..." and he'd say "I was in Norway once at kristianstad..." or "When I was in Holland..." and give detailed accounts of his experiences, only when he was " relaxed". 😉
Thanks for sharing that story Steven
@@WW2TV Welcome, shame to lose it all to time.
It was 3 Commando Brigade mate . No 3 Commando were in Europe
@@stephendonnison8045 Cheers for that, I knew it had a 3 in it.
@@stevennew2778 my dad was on that hill too with No5 Army Commando
Hey all this was a great video, my interest comes from a Japanese flag I have, that was taken during this battle. It is signed by everyone who was there, after the hill was secured. That flag was then taken to a reunion and signed by a few of the Japanese that were also there. I am trying to do some research on the signatures and find out the stories behind the signatures. I have a list of the signatures if anyone is interested in helping give this flag some more provenance.
Hello Dane, fascinating.
Please see if there is anyone from 42RMC, and particularly my father, Matthew Mcilwain. Also, I did travel to Johannesburg to meet Colonel Hartley Dales (also 42RMC) - perhaps his signature may be there too.
thank you lucy and woody another outstanding presentation full of nuance and subtlelty lucy has a great talent for story telling thank you again
she was excellent, very interesting, unknown to me and how many more actions were out there, New Guinea has really been an eye opener
I am so grateful that you choose such great and varied presenters filling in so many critical gaps. I have frequently found that after reading one simplistic book you are dealing with sudden ultimate experts that can hardly wait to pontificate and need to be thoroughly disabused of their genius as well as not such geniuses for which history, military concepts and operational techniques shared in your presentations add so much. I always hit the like button after viewing but want to personally pay my compliments and thank you.
I have just seen this video. The coverage of the battle is superb, and Lucy is simply superb. My father was in 4 Troop No 1 Commando, and died 22/12/20. I have his life story that he wrote and he put his army life on video including Hill 170.
Thanks for this, and would like to keep in touch with Lucy if possible
So was my dad. Your dad and my dad must have been friends. Stan Locke died in July 2005.
Hi mate, my Grandad also fought in 4 Troop (originally from the Gordon Highlanders). Would you be open to connecting / sharing?
I find all these interrupted PowerPoint long-form discussions very engaging: big thanks.
Hello Paul,
I am a recent follower of your excellent channel, my thanks to you and your contributors.
Lucy Betteridge-Dyson tells a captivating and informed story of this little known battle. Moreover, she makes respectful comments about Indian combat troops and stretcher bearers. I wish I knew where she obtained her information.
My father served as an officer in the 1/19th Hyderabad Regiment at the Northwest Frontier as a 2nd lieutenant; in the Central Burma campaign as a 1st lieutenant; from September 1945 to March 1946 in Saigon, FIC and Makassar, DEI, as a captain. By this time, his battalion had become 1 Kumaon and was a paratroop unit. Most of what I know about his service is directly from him, with odds and ends obtained from the WWW after he died in 1994. So much left unasked.
What I would dearly love to obtain are the official records of his unit's actions. I have lived outside the UK for 43 years and rarely visit England so any suggestions as to sources of information that I can contact via email will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Great presentation thank you
The diversity of 14th Army.... Brings to mind a scene in Slims autobiography, he was visiting one of the Indian Battalions (cannot remember which one without grabbing the book) and proceeded to give them a rousing speech. As he was leaving he mentioned to his Gurkha Sergeant driver that he thought it went rather well. His driver responded, utterly dead pan...
Indeed it did sahib, other than you switched to Gurkhali six words in it went extremely well...
Excuse me! Many of us would love this Burma Week in Burmese Translation subtitle.
Can you not use auto translate?
@@WW2TV let me try...
Was this the battle where 24 commandos were attacked by 300 Japanese?
A few more than 24, but yes essentially
Impressive...great guest, very knowledgeable and the maps & photographs so appreciated. Her details reminded me of the one Burma veteran I meet. The magnetic lunge mine reference pointed to savage landscape.
My Dad was there - 42 RMC Matt Mcilwain 🇬🇧
At one time in the 80's I visited Johannesburg and met Lt Cln Harley Dayles.
Chindits cut the voice boxes of the mules thus silencing them before 2nd Chindit-a lesson they learnt in 1st Chindit
Evening all.
Do you think that Burma leaving the Empire so quickly after the war contributed to the campaign being relatively forgotten as well as overshadowed by the European battles - many of which were also forgotten too ?
I think it's distance from the UK was more of a factor. We still had journalists in Germany and Europe keeping news coming
@@WW2TV, as a side note, if Bryan Perrett is still around and up to it, maybe an episode revolving around his book "Tank Tracks to Rangoon" would be worth watching.
The war in Europe being closer to home took precedence - especially the Normandy landing. Meanwhile the war against japan was a far more savage, against a far more savage/determined enemy.
@@ALEX-WATP: Despite the Imperial Japanese Forces notorious, suicidal, fanatism & brutality in combat, however, don’t ever underestimate how vicious, bloody & unrelenting the fight was in NW Europe & Italy (More especially on the Eastern Front too!), particularly when Allied troops were engaged against units like the Waffen SS, the German Paratroopers or the Panzer Lehr & similar Armoured Groups in Normandy or the Low Countries in 1944-45! Many of these German Forces were similarly motivated to self-sacrifice (Fuer den Fuehrer, das Volk und das Vaterland!) themselves to attain or defend a declared objective then as well! More so in fact than most Allied troops were at that time!
Thank you - some advice, spend a little more time working on your Burmese pronunciation.