अत्यंत विद्वत्तापूर्ण संवाद, जो कि बहुत ज्ञानवर्धक एवम रोचक है। इसके प्रतिभागियों की प्रशंसा करना हम जैसे अल्पज्ञ लोगों की छमता से बहुत ऊपर का कार्य है। अत्यंत साधुवाद एवं सद्भावनाएं।
जां निसार अख़्तर साहेब को केन्द्र में रख बहुत खूबसूरत चर्चा सुनने मिली। जब भी जावेद जी को सुनता हूं कुछ न कुछ समृद्ध होता हूं। आयोजकों का बहुत शुक्रिया 💓
Bahut hi badhiya batcheet! Javed Sab jyan ka khazana hain.Unhe sunna kisi library me baith kar gahan adhyayan karne ke saman hai. Abhi hame unhe bahut sunna,hai.Eshwer unhe swasth rakhe! Atul ji bahut dhanyawd! Aapko sun kar jankari me bahut izafa hua.
बहुत ही तारीफ करता हूं आप की वार्ता की जावेद अख्तर साहब। एक बात कहना चाहता हूं कि अरबी बोलचाल की भाषा में हिन्दी इन्डियन को कहते हैं। आप कन्फर्म कर सकते हैं ❤❤🎉🎉
Fantastic! A word of advice for Mr Atul Tiwari, though. From your vast vocabulary, you may use words to give due respect to a divine figure like Guru Nanak. 🙏
To add, Gaha Sattasai (Gatha Saptashati) compiled by Satvahan King Hala somewhere in first 50 years of last millennium is one of the oldest anthologies. It is in prakrit and has collection of around 250+ contemporary poets including Hala himself. If we go by the definition of anthologies Vedas could be counted as one of the oldest and debatably the oldest anthologies which collects poetry from various sages.
What a wonderful conversation. I recall my conversation with Javed Akhtar and Shabana Azmi in London back in the late 1990a, when i briefly taught at SOAS, London University. I still very much believe that using devenagri script to write Hindustani may not be the right way forward as it would limit its use. Here are the main reasons for my disagreement with Javed Akhtar. 1. I agree that it’s the most scientific script, but Devenagri script is not easy to learn and write / type. I have noted that it deters people, especially in Europe and America, from learning this beautiful indo-european language. 2. People from south india may feel alienated as most of them are not familiar with devenagri script, as far as i am aware. 3. I advocate using romanised script because it lends itself to the Hibdusrani sounds, as i realised when i taught comparative literature at London Uni. 4. As Javed Akhtar points out, he has to write things in Romanised script for younger audiences. Why not stick with it then, and further develop it, by standardising it. In fact you only need a few dots and slashes to pronounce everything perfectly, if you use my transliteration methodology.
No doubt Javed Akhtar is a wonderful poet, speaker and writer. Javed Akhtar looks as progressive as Indian as Bharti, praising all Indian history.WHILE a progressives Leader, Karl Marx, says India doesn’t have history ( in his two letters as journalist, in 1853, in his first letter British Rule In India and in his 2nd letter British Rule In India And Its Futre Results. What criticism of Javed Akhtar will make him a real progressive and will revolutionize India, i.e. Bharat, today??
Mien ne itnay interviews sunay hain Javed Sahab se, I can predict which example he will take to elaborate the point 😂... So much repetition. But listen all the interviews
दो बातें कहना चाहूँगा। पहली यह कि केवल देवनागरी ही ऐसी लिपि नहीं है जिसमें जो बोली जाती है वो लिखी जाती है और जो लिखी जाती है वही पढ़ी जाती है। हिंदुस्तान और दक्षिण पूर्व एशिया और तिब्बत की लिपियों में यह खूबी है। जितने भी लिपि ब्राह्मी लिपि से उपजी है उन सब में यही गुण है। अब वो तमिल हो, तेलुगू हो, कन्नड़ हो, बर्मीज़ हो, तिब्बती हो, गुजराती हो, गुरमुखी हो, उड़िया हो, कैथी हो, बंगाली हो, बाली की हो, थाईलैण्ड की हो, कंबोडिया की हो, सबमें यह गुण है। ऐसी लिपियों को 'अबुगिदा' कहते हैं। दूसरी बात कहावत को लेकर है। आजकल के लोग कहावत इसलिए नहीं कहते क्योंकि हमारे से ऊपर वाली पीढ़ी ने कहवातों का माला फेंक फेंक के हमें इतना मारा है कि हमें कहावतों से नफ़रत होने लगी है। उन्होंने ना नये कहवात बनाये और न ही उनके इस्तेमाल सोच समझ के किया। ज्ञानहीन लोग भी कहावत फेंक कर अपनी ज्ञानता सिद्ध करने लगे थे। कहावतें रटी जाने लगी थी। और विज्ञान के आने के बाद रटना वैसे भी प्रचलन से जा रहा था। हालाँकि कहावतें अभी भी सुनने को मिल जाती है ख़ास कर गाली गलौज करते हुए। क्योंकि वहाँ उनका सही इस्तेमाल होता है। अगर नयी विचारधारा के सात नयी कहावतें नहीं गढ़ी जाएँगी तो कहावतें मिट ही जाएँगी।
सही फरमाया आपने! कहावतें अब गुज़रे वक्त की चीज़ हो गई। इनकाे चलन से बाहर होने से ज़बान का चुटीलापन भी कहीं खो गया। एक वाक्यांश में 'एक लुहार की' शक्ति समाई रहती थी। अब नए मुहावरे गढ़ने की ज़रूरत है।
CBI, police, judiciary, politicians all are very competent and serving what was intended. They were intended to keep people busy, under control and play good cop, bad cop. People with strong character in these organisations don't survive.
Who says that Punjab da virsa supports anti-Muslim ideology ? You better ask the muslims of Malerkotla. Iqbal wrote poetry in urdu but he only listened to punjabi poetry when he was on the death bed.
Mahatma Gandhi ne apne ek lekh me likha tha ki Koi bhasha jo Bharat ki sampark bhasha ho sakti hai ,wo 'Hindustani' bhasha hai. Ham aaj bhi apne roz ke jeevan me Hindostani hi bolte hain. Is,samay ki ek or zarurat hai.Sarkari kagzaton me Hindi' ke nam per jo bgasha,likhi jati hai,use toh khud Hindibhashi insan ko Shabdkosh le kar padhna samjhna padta hai.Jin angrezi na janne walon ki suvidha ke liye Hindi me nirdesh diye gaye hain.,wo toh kabhi bhi use samajh hi nahi sakte. Yahan Hindustani bhasha ki zarurat hai.Wo hi bhaasha ,jiski bat Gandhi ji ne tab kahi thi.Or ab Javed sab kah rahe. Isse ' Hindi' bhi jeevit rahegi warna Sanskrit ki tarah khatm hoti jayegi.
Koi zaban jan bhi le skti hai ye maine abhi jana.. Dost g ye jane insan leta hai koi zaban jan nhi leti shayad apka koi set of believe ho jo apko aisa kahne k liye majboor kr rha ho..
Koi zaban jan bhi le skti hai ye maine abhi jana.. Dost g ye jane insan leta hai koi zaban jan nhi leti shayad apka koi set of believe ho jo apko aisa kahne k liye majboor kr rha ho..
@AjaySingh-jn7wy ji .kutark ka koi jawab nhi hota dost ji .aise to bole to jaan insan bhi nhi allah leta h .phir kya bolo ge .mai hu particular vichar ka .i m not ashamed of it .
@hulagukhan-we3fw jaan logo ne bhi nhi li ....bina allah ke marzi ke kuch nhi hota to jaan allah ne li .ab btao es bakwas ki koi limit h .jaan language ne hi li .karan language tha .
This man has singlehandedly destroyed Hindi and promoted Urdu and converted Bollywood into Urduwood. And along with that harmed Sanatan Sanskruti in movies and replaced it with Sadakchap and Madarsachap mentality. Congratulations!!
@aucknew sad but true, Let's not idolize this man, we must rest the blame where it is due. do this simple test, watch the movies in 60s and 70s when there were truly epic movies and songs, clean ut family movies. And now this Urduwood, full of foul language, women degradation, and disrespect to Sanatan Sanskruti. Let's not idolize this man, we must rest the blame where it is due.
Javed Akhtar is too small to talk about Allama Iqbal... قبلہ مکھن لگانا چھوڑ دیں ۔ آ پ اچھے بھلے ہندوستانی شاعر ہیں ۔ عوام بھی آ پ کو عزت و احترام سے دیکھتی ہے اس مقام کو قائم رکھیں ۔لا مذہب یا ملحد ہونے کا مطلب یہ تو نہیں کہ آپ کی گفتگو سے کروڑوں لوگوں کے احساسات مجروح ہوں This is the difference between an individual who follows monotheism in true sense and an anthesit from Lakhnow famous for tunday kabab and notorious Nawab's who sucked the blood of poor people to show off their grandeur..
The language is Hindi. Urdu is just an effort of post mughal muslims to differentiate themselves. They were below average in Persian, Arabic. So they used Hindi, inserted some persian turk words unnecessarily and wrote poetry and other things.
javed akhtar is living legend.
he has great wisdom
अत्यंत विद्वत्तापूर्ण संवाद, जो कि बहुत ज्ञानवर्धक एवम रोचक है। इसके प्रतिभागियों की प्रशंसा करना हम जैसे अल्पज्ञ लोगों की छमता से बहुत ऊपर का कार्य है। अत्यंत साधुवाद एवं सद्भावनाएं।
always pleasure and knowledge gathering to listen Javed Akhtar sb...❤
जां निसार अख़्तर साहेब को केन्द्र में रख बहुत खूबसूरत चर्चा सुनने मिली। जब भी जावेद जी को सुनता हूं कुछ न कुछ समृद्ध होता हूं। आयोजकों का बहुत शुक्रिया 💓
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The Last intellectual writer of film industry
Bahut hi badhiya batcheet! Javed Sab jyan ka khazana hain.Unhe sunna kisi library me baith kar gahan adhyayan karne ke saman hai. Abhi hame unhe bahut sunna,hai.Eshwer unhe swasth rakhe! Atul ji bahut dhanyawd! Aapko sun kar jankari me bahut izafa hua.
Javed Saab..What a legend 🤗
बहुत ही तारीफ करता हूं आप की वार्ता की जावेद अख्तर साहब। एक बात कहना चाहता हूं कि अरबी बोलचाल की भाषा में हिन्दी इन्डियन को कहते हैं। आप कन्फर्म कर सकते हैं
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Javed ji almost a super natural genius
Though he doesn't believe in any kind of super natural things
Fantastic! A word of advice for Mr Atul Tiwari, though. From your vast vocabulary, you may use words to give due respect to a divine figure like Guru Nanak. 🙏
To add, Gaha Sattasai (Gatha Saptashati) compiled by Satvahan King Hala somewhere in first 50 years of last millennium is one of the oldest anthologies. It is in prakrit and has collection of around 250+ contemporary poets including Hala himself. If we go by the definition of anthologies Vedas could be counted as one of the oldest and debatably the oldest anthologies which collects poetry from various sages.
That was oral not as book.
Atul is talking about Anthologies as a book.
Vedas into books came much much later
Don’t be so sensitive and dismissive…. Oral vedas was perhaps composed by several 100 people no one knows who.
What a wonderful conversation. I recall my conversation with Javed Akhtar and Shabana Azmi in London back in the late 1990a, when i briefly taught at SOAS, London University. I still very much believe that using devenagri script to write Hindustani may not be the right way forward as it would limit its use. Here are the main reasons for my disagreement with Javed Akhtar.
1. I agree that it’s the most scientific script, but Devenagri script is not easy to learn and write / type. I have noted that it deters people, especially in Europe and America, from learning this beautiful indo-european language.
2. People from south india may feel alienated as most of them are not familiar with devenagri script, as far as i am aware.
3. I advocate using romanised script because it lends itself to the Hibdusrani sounds, as i realised when i taught comparative literature at London Uni.
4. As Javed Akhtar points out, he has to write things in Romanised script for younger audiences. Why not stick with it then, and further develop it, by standardising it. In fact you only need a few dots and slashes to pronounce everything perfectly, if you use my transliteration methodology.
Lots of love Javed sir
Good work rajkml ji.
Very nice 👍
"Off" ho gaye,kitne power ke the😂😂
Dunya mai Hindi aur Urdu k elawa 2 aur bhashayen hain jin ki gramar aik hai aur wo hain Balti and Ladakhi
Rajkamal ka name sunte HI jehan Main khushi ki laher ajati hai kyu ki such to apke pass HI milta hai...
it will be good to read in Urdu
No doubt Javed Akhtar is a wonderful poet, speaker and writer.
Javed Akhtar looks as progressive as Indian as Bharti, praising all Indian history.WHILE a progressives Leader, Karl Marx, says India doesn’t have history ( in his two letters as journalist, in 1853, in his first letter British Rule In India and in his 2nd letter British Rule In India And Its Futre Results.
What criticism of Javed Akhtar will make him a real progressive and will revolutionize India, i.e. Bharat, today??
جناب عمران خان!
آپ اقبال کی اتنی بات کرتے ہیں ،
کبھی مِیر تقی مِیر اور غالِب کی بھی بات کریں نا!!
کیا آپ اِدھر کبھی نہ دیکھیں گے!!
A fb post of mine.
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Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰❤️
Bol love from Bhikaristan😅😅😅😅
Mien ne itnay interviews sunay hain Javed Sahab se, I can predict which example he will take to elaborate the point 😂... So much repetition. But listen all the interviews
Very well said Atul Tiwari ji. I hope RSS should learn some good things from you.--Gurnam Kaur
the best
दो बातें कहना चाहूँगा। पहली यह कि केवल देवनागरी ही ऐसी लिपि नहीं है जिसमें जो बोली जाती है वो लिखी जाती है और जो लिखी जाती है वही पढ़ी जाती है। हिंदुस्तान और दक्षिण पूर्व एशिया और तिब्बत की लिपियों में यह खूबी है। जितने भी लिपि ब्राह्मी लिपि से उपजी है उन सब में यही गुण है। अब वो तमिल हो, तेलुगू हो, कन्नड़ हो, बर्मीज़ हो, तिब्बती हो, गुजराती हो, गुरमुखी हो, उड़िया हो, कैथी हो, बंगाली हो, बाली की हो, थाईलैण्ड की हो, कंबोडिया की हो, सबमें यह गुण है। ऐसी लिपियों को 'अबुगिदा' कहते हैं।
दूसरी बात कहावत को लेकर है। आजकल के लोग कहावत इसलिए नहीं कहते क्योंकि हमारे से ऊपर वाली पीढ़ी ने कहवातों का माला फेंक फेंक के हमें इतना मारा है कि हमें कहावतों से नफ़रत होने लगी है। उन्होंने ना नये कहवात बनाये और न ही उनके इस्तेमाल सोच समझ के किया। ज्ञानहीन लोग भी कहावत फेंक कर अपनी ज्ञानता सिद्ध करने लगे थे। कहावतें रटी जाने लगी थी। और विज्ञान के आने के बाद रटना वैसे भी प्रचलन से जा रहा था। हालाँकि कहावतें अभी भी सुनने को मिल जाती है ख़ास कर गाली गलौज करते हुए। क्योंकि वहाँ उनका सही इस्तेमाल होता है। अगर नयी विचारधारा के सात नयी कहावतें नहीं गढ़ी जाएँगी तो कहावतें मिट ही जाएँगी।
Hiragana script in Japanese language is also like that.
सही फरमाया आपने! कहावतें अब गुज़रे वक्त की चीज़ हो गई। इनकाे चलन से बाहर होने से ज़बान का चुटीलापन भी कहीं खो गया।
एक वाक्यांश में 'एक लुहार की' शक्ति समाई रहती थी।
अब नए मुहावरे गढ़ने की ज़रूरत है।
@@sushmasingh8008 जी बिलकुल मुहावरे गढ़ते रहनी चाहिए।
@@moinmalik1320 Hiragana लिपि के बारे में तो मुझे मालूम नहीं है। देखना पड़ेगा। बताने के लिए धन्यवाद!
GOD HAS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK
CBI, police, judiciary, politicians all are very competent and serving what was intended.
They were intended to keep people busy, under control and play good cop, bad cop. People with strong character in these organisations don't survive.
Who says that Punjab da virsa supports anti-Muslim ideology ? You better ask the muslims of Malerkotla. Iqbal wrote poetry in urdu but he only listened to punjabi poetry when he was on the death bed.
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ढलती उमर मे अब हिंदुस्था याद आया! अब तक तो कट्टर मुल्ला था.अब बुढापे मे खुद का पाप धोना चाहता है समशान एक पाव है!
Kya hua , tattiya ruki padi hai kya
Mahatma Gandhi ne apne ek lekh me likha tha ki Koi bhasha jo Bharat ki sampark bhasha ho sakti hai ,wo 'Hindustani' bhasha hai.
Ham aaj bhi apne roz ke jeevan me Hindostani hi bolte hain.
Is,samay ki ek or zarurat hai.Sarkari kagzaton me Hindi' ke nam per jo bgasha,likhi jati hai,use toh khud Hindibhashi insan ko Shabdkosh le kar padhna samjhna padta hai.Jin angrezi na janne walon ki suvidha ke liye Hindi me nirdesh diye gaye hain.,wo toh kabhi bhi use samajh hi nahi sakte.
Yahan Hindustani bhasha ki zarurat hai.Wo hi bhaasha ,jiski bat Gandhi ji ne tab kahi thi.Or ab Javed sab kah rahe.
Isse ' Hindi' bhi jeevit rahegi warna Sanskrit ki tarah khatm hoti jayegi.
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Koi zaban jan bhi le skti hai ye maine abhi jana..
Dost g ye jane insan leta hai koi zaban jan nhi leti shayad apka koi set of believe ho jo apko aisa kahne k liye majboor kr rha ho..
yhi ek language he jisne kai million insan ki jaan le li .1971 me aur 1947 me bhi
Koi zaban jan bhi le skti hai ye maine abhi jana..
Dost g ye jane insan leta hai koi zaban jan nhi leti shayad apka koi set of believe ho jo apko aisa kahne k liye majboor kr rha ho..
@AjaySingh-jn7wy ji .kutark ka koi jawab nhi hota dost ji .aise to bole to jaan insan bhi nhi allah leta h .phir kya bolo ge .mai hu particular vichar ka .i m not ashamed of it .
@hulagukhan-we3fw jaan logo ne bhi nhi li ....bina allah ke marzi ke kuch nhi hota to jaan allah ne li .ab btao es bakwas ki koi limit h .jaan language ne hi li .karan language tha .
@hulagukhan-we3fw arre kahna kya chahte ho ??
@s K ...jaan aap jaise jaahil logon ne li thi... Jinko religion ka ABC pata nahi aur bakchodi karne aa jaate hain... Jaao aur apni akal check kar aao
Every single slogan of partition was made in urdu ... try somewhere else saying it's not communal
Yeh interview lene wale shakhs 3 idiot ke character lag rahe hain. Jo kehte hain "ashleel hai yeh launda".
Lagh nahi raha, wahi hai
This totla guys don't have market now a days of active social media activities
This man has singlehandedly destroyed Hindi and promoted Urdu and converted Bollywood into Urduwood. And along with that harmed Sanatan Sanskruti in movies and replaced it with Sadakchap and Madarsachap mentality. Congratulations!!
Absolute nonsense 😡
@aucknew sad but true, Let's not idolize this man, we must rest the blame where it is due. do this simple test, watch the movies in 60s and 70s when there were truly epic movies and songs, clean ut family movies. And now this Urduwood, full of foul language, women degradation, and disrespect to Sanatan Sanskruti. Let's not idolize this man, we must rest the blame where it is due.
Bhakt spotted 😂😂
Bachpan me sarr ke bal gir gaya tha kya?
@@aucknewfull of gabar nonsense, aqal se paidal..
Uo kr lohonka oet itna bada kion hita hau jida kion khate hai
Ye har jagah isko hi kyu bulate hai
Javed Akhtar is too small to talk about Allama Iqbal...
قبلہ مکھن لگانا چھوڑ دیں ۔ آ پ اچھے بھلے ہندوستانی شاعر ہیں ۔ عوام بھی آ پ کو عزت و احترام سے دیکھتی ہے اس مقام کو قائم رکھیں ۔لا مذہب یا ملحد ہونے کا مطلب یہ تو نہیں کہ آپ کی گفتگو سے کروڑوں لوگوں کے احساسات مجروح ہوں
This is the difference between an individual who follows monotheism in true sense and an anthesit from Lakhnow famous for tunday kabab and notorious Nawab's who sucked the blood of poor people to show off their grandeur..
Kitna 3 idiots
The language is Hindi. Urdu is just an effort of post mughal muslims to differentiate themselves. They were below average in Persian, Arabic. So they used Hindi, inserted some persian turk words unnecessarily and wrote poetry and other things.
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