Is JiuJitsu a Valid Self Defense System?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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I can't personally comment on JiuJitsu, but as a rule of thumb: you must realize that no system is perfect, the second you've summited to believing "Nothing is flawed in this system, their are no flaws in what I practice." just might be the day you've lost.
Dog brother Eric knaus once said you take a purple belt in Gracie jiujitsu and teach him knife fighting you have a force to be reckoned with
Its easy not to be humbled if you havent felt the pressure yet. The people are ignorant torwards the fact most fights will happen rather in BBJ range, not draw-your-gun range.
There are a lot of good intentioned and passionate "gun guys" who willingly choose to keep their head in the sand. I hope they never experience the rude awakening that some folks have.
While I won't argue about the right to own a firearm, I want to propose that this right comes with great responsibilities as well.
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well BJJ (or any unarmed system) doesn't have much of a chance against someone who really knows how to use knives. But, those skeleton arm tats are badass!
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So nice of you. I appreciate your support. -GN
This is where BJJ needs to evole or after time this same topic will come up again and again. Just as TMA's had to evole after MMA clearly demonstrated what actually works and discard the rubbish BJJ will start facing a major backlash when it's practioners publically call it out(going to floor, punches, grappling for knifes and multiples). I love BJJ but it needs to evolve.
It will evolve, and it is evolving. Saying it isn't is foolish. Just depends on the context that you choose to take in.
It absolutely IS evolving. This may be hard to see depending on which circles one runs with. But I definitely see a shift. -GN
I'm glad u are talking about this.
Personally, Jiu-Jitsu has great groundwork, but why expose yourself to the ground? If you're dealing with multiple attackers, I wouldn't want to be on the ground.
I wouldn't want to be anywhere dealing with multiple attackers.
@@RagingShrimp67 The unfortunate reality is that you're most likely going to have to face that.
@@RagingShrimp67 I fully agree
@@hag12100 I don't know, I lived so far 59 years and haven't had to face that outside the dojo.
The reality is that no system can be completely effective against multiple attackers.
I mean unless you assume they will all attack one by one.
The best thing to do is try to get away if possible.
As a survivor of a knife attack I wonder if we are asking too much from the martial arts/combative systems we practice? (empty handed against knife, guns, sticks, multiple attackers?… perhaps at some point it is just too unrealistic to think odds will be in one’s favour).
Weapons are force multipliers; they were invented for a reason… because they really work! I would say incorporate knife self defence tactics in your training and depending on what part of the world you live in perhaps even carry a weapon as well if violence is too prevalent where you live and the chances are you will have to deal with it sooner or later. There is not much else you can do…. Just be prepared and remember prevention goes a long way.
I would say as far as knives go you're pretty screwed no matter the MA. They hide easy in the hand (especially in a dark club) and will end up IN YOU faster than most will even realize a knife is in play. As far as multiple attackers and BIGGER attackers, this is a must. almost NO fights stay one on one for long and there are no weight classes.
No martial art is perfect for every situation. So, yes, cross training and, as you say, "specificity training" are very important to BROADEN the applications of your chosen martial art.
I spent the better part of 20 years training in kung fu, Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Isshin Ryu, Shotokan, a little Mongolian wrestling, and finally, about 18 months of BJJ. However, I would trade ALL of those other martial arts for even 10 years of training in BJJ. As the Machado (Gracie family) brothers are credited with saying, "I am a shark and the floor is my ocean."
Any fight can (and usually will) be taken to the ground. The question is, "What will you do once you get there?" Wrestling can help you control the ground, but BJJ will get you the submission (or worse, if necessary).
I haven't done any martial arts for about 15 years now (after knee and shoulder replacements), but if I were to pick up one now, it would definitely be BJJ (at least to start).
My $.02...
Problem inherent to every grappling art:
They advertise themselves as a self defense art when that is simply not realistic.
Most real fights will involve one of two things: Multiple dudes coming at you at once, or weapons.
Do you REALLY want to be trying to fold your arms and legs around a dude bearing a knife?
And more over, do you really think it's ethical to tell people that something like BJJ should be used as a means of self defense over something like Muay Thai or a commando art like Arnis or Krav? Like, you legit have Mc'Dojos out there acting like people don't carry pocket knives. This is shit that will get people stabbed.
Ya gotta look at Martial Arts like a utility knife; there's different tools for a reason. Train them all. Be prepared for everything.
Multiple guys with weapons is a worst case, most fights occur because of random shitt involving drunk people or with street thugs who got nothing better to do and it's most of the time bare handed fighting. It's kinda ridicilous how many people turn the average physical altercation into some Mortal Kombat situation, that's not the realtiy. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, it's just unlikely and it's strongly dependant on the country you're living in. And for a matter of fact, fights involve grappling more often than not. It starts with striking but usually turns into grappling. Pure grappler vs pure striker usually favours the grappler because he can dictate where the fight is going to.
Jujitsu has some great stuff I trained in it for a couple of years I am no expert but Now days u need to be aware that weapons and multiple attackers may pop up So don't always think u can use sport techniques for the street Sometimes u have to modify it
Jiu Jitsu is another tool for your tool belt.
Hate it if you want, but you can’t always keep the fight on the feet.
Great info brother.
To be fair though, if you are rolling with a guy on the floor and only realized after the guy pulls a knife that the guy is a trained knife fighter, you’ve fucked up real bad to not recognize early on that the guy could be trained and could be armed. Your only chance at that point to salvage the situation is to disengage and pull out your gun; or grab a bigger melee weapon that is bigger than his knife. In other words, make it an unfair fight to your advantage as much as you can.
These knife disarm stuff you only would have a chance at pulling off if the guy with the knife is a schmuck who doesn’t know how to handle a knife.
Excellent point of view. All the arts have value in certain context - maximize your toolbox.
I completely agree
Lmao dont let gracie bjj school hear that they will crazy
I carry 3 knives and good luck disarming me of all three.
I don't want to get in to knife to knife battle situation that's really nasty
All jokes aside,the Miyao brothers would literally wipe the floor with whoever is laughing at them
Well said GN! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed!
I love watching your guys Channel it is absolutely combination entertaining and education both I have been involved in the martial arts since I was eight-years-old we have over 36 years and martial arts everything from Japanese to Okinawan. korean..from Nepal to the Philippines to Indonesia I'm sorry I know that I'm going to piss some people off but djaj is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu DJ actual Origins is from kodokan Judo.. which I have studied for years and I do have a rank... the real origins of ju-jitsu.. is from the battlefields of Japan you still have system stat still exist daito.ryu aiki jujitsu...my system..all so tenjin shoden katori shinto system.. 11th century Japanese Samurai combat system that does go into Tanto Jutsu knife fight that does go into jujitsu you also have kito ryu jujitsu. that is a fourteenth-century Battlefield system when knife comes involved I'm sorry I wouldn't introduce your ass to koppo jutsu..bonebreaking.. I love the Filipino Arts but you pull a blade on me I'm going to break shit... I know everybody's here to poo poo on BJJ but there are other forms of ju jitsu
It’s great if you train it with knives 🔪
Yep
Generally speaking. taking it to the ground should always be the last option.
He basically says at the end of the video that jujitsu can’t handle it when it counts unless the opponent is untrained and unarmed, And then basically says this whole thing was a commercial for his channel
I think you've missed the point of what I actually said. You need this video in your life: ruclips.net/video/jg_bbJabAOY/видео.html
This is an old question that was settled hundreds (if not thousands) of years ago. If you want to use a knife on the ground you need to get your opponent in a pin. Any other way, as your video demonstrates, is just kinda messy lol.
It's all messy. Nothing is settled.
those in the thumbnail is going to have a
bad time
No. no no no no no. If you want to win a fight in the street, learn boxing. Learn to throw hard accurate punches and elbows. DO NOT use BJJ for street self defense. To do so and expect good results, you have to assume that you're okay dropping onto the pavement and fucking up your clothes, your opponent had no buddies that will come stomp on your head, and he doesn't have a knife he's going to gut you with when you put him in a hold.
LOL that's not how one does and armbar from guard at all. In reality you will be facing the other way and it will be hard to stab a vital organ before you get your arm broken. Not that that will stop you for sure, especially if you're on adrenaline or drugs, but yeah, that's a terrible armbar from guard. Also, as a jiujitiero I would question how the fight got to the ground in the first place, before even a knife was drawn. I good grappler will slam you first and then keep top position, especially on hard ground. Its not so easy,' and we're not only good on our backs. Jut saying that reality is very different and messy from this video.
Jujitsu is fine if its a one on one situation but in most attacks on the street the criminal brings a buddy or two so if you take the first guy to the ground his buddies will kick your head in so what is Jujitsus answer that to that sort of thing as other arts have an answer for it ? Mind you i trained in Jujitsu for a few years to learn how to ground fight but that concern was always on my mind.
Jujitsu without dogma
Just keep kicking ass and taking peanut gallery name
Hell yeah!
BJJ ["Jiujitsu"] is worse than useless in most situations. Y'all living in a sport-biased bubble of delusion. What y'all don't understand, because you only know external styles like MMA and that real kung fu masters don't bother with combat sports, is that grappling predisposes you to being grappled and kills your mobility, unless you're an internal style grandmaster [you are not]. This wastes time and exposes you getting screwed by stronger, mauling, multiple and/or armed opponents. Y'all also don't understand that unless you're psychic you don't know if a situation is going to involve stronger, mauling, multiple and/or armed opponents. So grabbing guys slows you down, gives up your position, pressure, intent etc. exposes you to being moved by the attacker, countergrappled, break your fingers and takes too long and is too complex, not being efficient in stopping the fight relative to a simple strike. You can't immediately escape the situation should it turn against you. It's just retarded. That's just grappling upright... Grappling on the ground is full retard.
I really never want to be stabbed anywhere but the prostate and anus sounds even more horrid
Too many MA's focus on winning metals these days cause it looks good for the school. They dont focus on self defense as much as they should. Just my 2 cents.
BJJ takes place on the ground. The last place you want to be in a fight is on the ground. When on the ground, there arises the 3 B's of ground fighting: biting, buddies and blades. You should know enough BJJ to be able to deal with people who may want to take you to the ground, or if you slip and end up there on accident. Get back up as quickly as possible. Most people that train BJJ train with the understanding of the person tapping so they will more than likely default to trying to put them in a lock of some sort and hoping that the person they are fighting, not competing against, understands the rules of BJJ. That is where the disconnect is.
Well stated.
I think you missed the entire point of this video, but glad you got to get on your soapbox!
@@Radical.Freedom Well considering there was an entire section of the video showing how you'll get yourself sliced up doing that shit in a life and death encounter, I'm pretty sure I was right on the mark. BJJ is a perfectly fine sport. It is not a suitable self-defense. There are aspects of it that are good to know, as there are of every art out there. But people acting like it is the be all, end all of martial arts are a bit delusional.
Joshbtv; yep the point of the video isn’t that bjj is the end all be all, I’d be the last person to say that. It has its flaws as do all systems, and realistically all people. However if you take tools from bjj and incorporate them with other tools you can be a very well rounded “fighter”. That was the point of the video, while it exposes some of the flaws of bjj it also goes on to show others who are incorporating it into a more holistic approach.
@@thejoshbtv
lol..calling bjj a "sport" does not remove its effectiveness