The Angriest Breakup Email | Chosen Family Podcast

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  • @Axolautism
    @Axolautism 4 месяца назад +291

    "You have succumbed to the flaws of extreme arrogance" is such a raw line

    • @Louisyed
      @Louisyed 3 месяца назад +2

      I need to say this to my ex 😂

  • @significantsoil5345
    @significantsoil5345 4 месяца назад +305

    Can we all take a moment for Ashley just casually reading a rage mail she wrote years ago👏👏👏, because we know damn well we couldn't.

    • @ashgavs
      @ashgavs 4 месяца назад +37

      Thank you for saying this I didn’t think anyone would ❤

    • @stephtaylor6292
      @stephtaylor6292 4 месяца назад +1

      thats true!

    • @Neveko
      @Neveko 4 месяца назад +1

      I must be extremely arrogant, but I think Ashley did nothing wrong 😤

    • @RDawn
      @RDawn 4 месяца назад

      Haha I'm constantly re=reading rage stuff i send to people not involved b/c even 10 years later i'm till angry and want other people to agree with me xD
      still claps to ashley!!

  • @bekcytalyor
    @bekcytalyor 4 месяца назад +89

    Picturing Daniel walking through New York and seeing people wearing "succumb to the flaws of your extreme arrogance" on sweaters and getting flashbacks to the email

  • @parmisvazifeh140
    @parmisvazifeh140 4 месяца назад +136

    Mak is f**king glowing this episode.

    • @rianplastow2844
      @rianplastow2844 4 месяца назад +1

      I totally was thinking the same thing!

  • @livbernemann
    @livbernemann 4 месяца назад +62

    “I have to put something in my tummy right now or I’m going to throw up” is so real 😂

  • @karisfunkartist
    @karisfunkartist 4 месяца назад +61

    Ashley and Alayna competitively promoting their own brands, while Mak quietly sits there, all "mom and dad are fighting again..."😅😂

  • @EmilyCampbell-pq1os
    @EmilyCampbell-pq1os 4 месяца назад +147

    The way Alayna lights up when she knows there's tea is hilarious.

    • @shobo4482
      @shobo4482 4 месяца назад +1

      she's so adorable omg haha

    • @nicolegulino
      @nicolegulino 4 месяца назад +4

      Shes just like me I fear

  • @kapowjam3462
    @kapowjam3462 4 месяца назад +51

    Mak: have you thought about making this email a musical?
    😂😂😂😂

  • @lc360
    @lc360 4 месяца назад +78

    That email is ruthless it's giving Willy Wonka screaming YOU STOLE FIZZY LIFTING DRINKS

    • @Neveko
      @Neveko 4 месяца назад

      Good DAY, sir

  • @parmisvazifeh140
    @parmisvazifeh140 4 месяца назад +49

    I'm manifesting Ashley's rage-mailing abilities while climbing corporate ladder

  • @yeahokay...actuallynah
    @yeahokay...actuallynah 4 месяца назад +42

    Ashley's email reads like a Real Housewives text thread

    • @ashgavs
      @ashgavs 4 месяца назад +4

      HAHAH

  • @megancurtis9502
    @megancurtis9502 4 месяца назад +6

    "I'm sorry if that was boring." after reading the hottest tea this podcast has ever seen. As someone who has had a couple friendships end because the other person became horrible or ghosted me out of nowhere that email was honestly healing to hear. I totally get the regret but some people need to be put in their place and it sounds like he had already hurt a few people in the same way.

  • @sophiea1270
    @sophiea1270 4 месяца назад +30

    Ashley digging up that old email was absolute gold 😂
    I love that we're all about to succumb to the flaws of our extreme arrogance 👉

  • @circleofleaves2676
    @circleofleaves2676 4 месяца назад +15

    LOL Fulton's foot stretching up from out of frame while Ashley's going off reading her letter to Ditching Daniel as if to say "settle down mum". Sounds like the full-vent draft of the letter that you burn without sending. But on a serious note, I wouldn't meet with him in Europe. The Europe tour is a huge deal for you, and you have precious little time in each city. That is your time. Imagine meeting with him somewhere in Europe, and it going poorly, and you end up being in a heated argument, and that souring your mood, energy and experience of that leg of the trip. There is no urgency. Just revisit the thought when you're back in NY.

  • @kerizella
    @kerizella 4 месяца назад +61

    don't know if it's the light the hair or the flannel but Mak looks amazing today

    • @burntherest9118
      @burntherest9118 4 месяца назад

      Straight girl with a MASSIVE crush on Mak here 🤚🏻

    • @bousha3657
      @bousha3657 4 месяца назад +3

      Alaynna' tank top vs. Mak's flannel.
      Who wins?

    • @hi-yo1kq
      @hi-yo1kq 4 месяца назад +2

      Or maybe it’s just Mak

  • @MiKa_EDS
    @MiKa_EDS 4 месяца назад +51

    I am going to use succumb to the flaws of extreme arrogance in my everyday life now 😂

  • @innddiiiggoo
    @innddiiiggoo 4 месяца назад +53

    Ash read him to FILTH and we cheered, man I love this pod

  • @mariem.5613
    @mariem.5613 4 месяца назад +41

    36:12 Omg!! I'm SCREAMING that was my question!! Weeks ago😅 I'm having such a fan girl moment hearing Alayna read out something I wrote. This just made my day!! 🎉

  • @foxesrule9037
    @foxesrule9037 4 месяца назад +18

    Alayna should submit this video to her professors as a therapy session example showcasing her capabilities

  • @keiranoble
    @keiranoble 4 месяца назад +18

    i would for sure purchase the merch if it said “succumb to the flaws of extreme arrogance”🤷‍♀️

  • @kyoooooooooooooon
    @kyoooooooooooooon 4 месяца назад +17

    Ashley's delivery of the email was perfect

  • @stephtaylor6292
    @stephtaylor6292 4 месяца назад +10

    gosh i actually kind of amazed at the clear insights and self awareness that Ashley brought to that email and was able to express (albeit slightly aggressive lol, but we've all been there... anxious vs avoidant explosion) whilst in a rage type... kind of impressive that you were so clear at communicating and setting clear expectations and boundaries at 23! is this what starting therapy as a child does? Because im kind of impressed. (my break up rage emails similarly emotional but without all the insight...actually i dont think i even knew i was allowed to communicate my feelings and needs in conflict outside of family till mid to late 20s)
    ...
    loved this dramatic reading, haha, Also the camper trap HAS to be rewritten and put into production! its such a funny premise.

  • @williambriggs7037
    @williambriggs7037 4 месяца назад +3

    I honestly would absolutely buy a t-shirt or hoodie that says 'succumb to the flaws of extreme arrogance'. You have secured a customer here!

  • @ericadecopas
    @ericadecopas 4 месяца назад +4

    Mak is SO funny (the look at the camera when the other two said things were good between them was priceless)

  • @8infinite8possiblities8
    @8infinite8possiblities8 4 месяца назад +10

    The way Alayna one upped Mak “I was straight!” L O L 👁️👄👁️
    And the last paragraph of the angry email reminded me of Willy Wonka getting angry and saying “Good day sir! I said good day!!”

  • @SelinaDangerShadow
    @SelinaDangerShadow 4 месяца назад +12

    Dude GROWING is just such an uphill thing with learning and unlearning behaviors that will solidify into your personality. We’ve ALL done thinks that when we look back as adults we would want to unsend if we could. Thanks Ash for dissecting your past and being able to have this conversation about growing up

  • @missanthrop0cene
    @missanthrop0cene 4 месяца назад +11

    Ashley, that was NOT boring! This is exactly the tea we all need 👌 i love hearing about relationships bc so many of us also go through similar things

  • @Sarah_sera_Sarah
    @Sarah_sera_Sarah 4 месяца назад +3

    It's the cat paw casually stretching into the frame while Ashley is reading that email for me. 😻
    #makeitamusical 😂

  • @yoXneo
    @yoXneo 4 месяца назад +8

    Succumb to the flaws of your extreme arrogance! That’s the new Chosen Family motto! 🤣

  • @alisontippett2618
    @alisontippett2618 4 месяца назад +12

    10:31 Mak’s face during this mom & dad interaction 😂

  • @JuMixBoox
    @JuMixBoox 4 месяца назад +16

    I know this will be too late, but I also don't think you should meet up with Daniel. Yes, you had wildly different attitudes to the project you were working on together, but you quitting your job and basically saying you are willing to work on this 24/7 and him not willing to give it any time at all wasn't the only issue, him not honouring that was. He made a commitment, one that greatly affected his best friend's life, and didn't even bother giving you a timeline or an explanation or any statement. Him saying no then and quitting the project would have been much kinder than wasting months of your life with uncertainty and confusion. When he got that email in June, from someone he cares about no less, that was his chance. Although that final email was a lot, I think you were also very justified in your feelings and even then, when this escalated and he got his last chance to save your relationship if not your project, he didn't admit fault and instead got passive aggressive because he had no real defense for himself and that shows again how little he cared about you, your time or your feelings, as you had already figured out by then. He didn't react when you tried to be there for him while he was grieving, and that was his right, but the ball was in his corner. Him texting you "let's hang out" with just logistics, for a setting it would be pretty inappropriate for him to do what he needs to do in, which is apologise to you and thank you for still caring and tell you clearly what he's looking for right now, isn't enough. He doesn't get to emotionally hijack your moment of joy. If you want to reconnect, please make sure to do it on your terms at every corner because you are a stronger person now but old patterns are also hard to break out of. If he's been thinking about you lately and this felt like the perfect excuse for him to reach out, great. Tell him you can't because you are busy, but you could meet up for a coffee in New York. If what he wants is talk to you, he'll be happy about that. Protect your heart, Ashley. I hope you spent none of your previous time on tour thinking about him.

    • @ashgavs
      @ashgavs 4 месяца назад +4

      Totally, I think it’s worth reiterating I didn’t go to that funeral with expectations about the friendship, but I felt I needed to be there for him and it established he didn’t feel the same, which was freeing.

    • @JuMixBoox
      @JuMixBoox 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ashgavs Of course! I'm glad you also got something out of that for yourself. And I obviously don't actually know your real life situation, I just wanted to comment after hearing you talk about it because I feel like a lot of us have been in these situations before. Thank you for replying and sharing in the first place!

  • @SieraLynJM
    @SieraLynJM 4 месяца назад +5

    For me the worst part about misophonia is that not only does other people chewing bother me, but sometimes if I am already overestimated or anxious my own chewing will bother me so much I need to stop eating 🥴 Similar to Alayna it's wet chewing that gets me. Also, repetitive sounds (pen clicking, tapping, a ball bouncing, even snoring) unlock a rage like no other. It is pretty horrible tbh 😂

  • @PawsitivelyQuestionable
    @PawsitivelyQuestionable 4 месяца назад +9

    Mak has that Midwestern glow wtf actually gorgeous

  • @Over.thewillow
    @Over.thewillow 4 месяца назад +23

    My favourite part of the week

    • @Ace-hd3di
      @Ace-hd3di 4 месяца назад

      Same there all the absolute best!

  • @r.l.4400
    @r.l.4400 4 месяца назад +12

    "You've mini-nepoed" 😂

  • @damndaniel605
    @damndaniel605 4 месяца назад +4

    Im european, but every time the canada vs USA joke comes up I relate SO hard to Alayna, cause I always tease my american friends the same way. 'Dont you come for ranch' had me ROLLING

  • @jami1241
    @jami1241 4 месяца назад +10

    The Camper Trap 🤣

  • @morganmitchellcreative
    @morganmitchellcreative 4 месяца назад +2

    Mak had fire one liners this episode

  • @d14551
    @d14551 4 месяца назад +1

    I have had misophonia all my life but I only learned there was a name for it until a few years ago. And yes, it's the outsize reaction - the rage or the feeling of needing to flee. I agree, the label really helps.

  • @apoorvsingh4459
    @apoorvsingh4459 4 месяца назад +11

    Reading the title first I thought wait who broke up 😱😅

  • @clarabotrel5914
    @clarabotrel5914 3 месяца назад +1

    I used to have a really toxic friend called Daniel in high school so the fact that the THREE of you thought about that name made me feel seen

  • @chaz072
    @chaz072 4 месяца назад +1

    PLEASE put succumbed to the flaws of extreme arrogance on a cap or SOMETHING. we need it and we will buy them all this is the best episode yet !!!!!

  • @BrittanyS-11
    @BrittanyS-11 4 месяца назад +2

    Alayna’s right about the Canadian chip game. All dressed chips slap.

  • @brendaj1267
    @brendaj1267 4 месяца назад +1

    Omg! Loved ashley reading us her old email. The tea was piping hot and she read that man to filth😌😌
    I genuinely would love more of these.
    Phrase of the day:"you have succumbed to the flaws of extreme arrogance"

  • @acssara
    @acssara 4 месяца назад +3

    Can we get some merch already? All of these lines are hilarious😂. Loving all of you and the podcast🥰

  • @lainebow720
    @lainebow720 4 месяца назад +1

    i would pay to watch the reverse parent trap it sounds so funny and such a genius idea

  • @fluterem8866
    @fluterem8866 4 месяца назад +1

    The Camper Trap sounds like it would make a great movie, and I would so watch it.

  • @ryla157
    @ryla157 4 месяца назад +1

    justice for ketchup chips!! thank you for making me feel seen Alayna

  • @tayto139
    @tayto139 4 месяца назад

    Daniel sounds like a best friend I used to have and we had a falling out as well -- through therapy I realized that he was a narcissist and gaslighter, and emotionally abused me throughout our friendship. I never sent an email like that, but if you ever got a peek into my mind regarding my feelings of anger, frustration, hurt, and sadness around this, I bet it would sound incredibly similar. I don't ever see us talking again, let alone being friends. I believe in second chances but by the time I finally cut him off, I had given him thousands and thousands of chances and passes on shitty behavior

  • @sam2633
    @sam2633 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm only at "this episode is stupid" and just wanna say no. I'm loving it

  • @Zweigenhaft9
    @Zweigenhaft9 4 месяца назад +3

    Look, was that email coming from an unhealed and deeply hurt place? Yes.
    Were there also just mad raw bars on bars? Also yes.
    I love how Ashley is still an artist of words even in the ugliest/most regrettable of moments 😂💜 love it!!

  • @honeybri7061
    @honeybri7061 4 месяца назад +4

    You had cold tea with your dinner.

  • @gtcubes
    @gtcubes Месяц назад

    I love that Ashley came up with a fake name and proceeded to never use it once 😂

  • @insertheadphones
    @insertheadphones 3 месяца назад

    you guys are so protective of Ashley I love it.

  • @Mialotic
    @Mialotic 4 месяца назад +3

    I know capacity makes it difficult, but not speaking to someone is really hard on the other person. Even if you get someone else to check up on that person is better than total ghosting - referring to the hurt of friend ghosting

    • @ashgavs
      @ashgavs 4 месяца назад +1

      I agree but with silence of 14? years on both sides doesn’t merit a response and a negative response could be crueler

    • @Louisyed
      @Louisyed 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ashgavsI think this person is meaning that the friend was being unfair to you then, not that you're being unfair to them now

    • @Louisyed
      @Louisyed 3 месяца назад

      Yes ghosting is awful. Being ignored is genuinely more damaging to children than being spoken to negatively. Hence why kids would often rather have attention for being naughty than not get any. We're wired to be social animals, evolutionarily being rejected is literally a threat to our lives.

  • @KassidyKarlsson
    @KassidyKarlsson 3 месяца назад

    OMG talking about misophonia thank you! I have the same problem with chewing sounds it's literally like my whole system shuts down and I get unreasonably outraged when someone's chewing. It made me feel so seen to discover this is something other people experience and know about too cause no one would believe me before 😂

  • @ttarotkidd
    @ttarotkidd 4 месяца назад +2

    Mak is not beating the autistic allegations in this episode 🤣🤣
    (as a fellow audhd person, I also have to set timers to remind myself to eat bc I can't tell if I'm hungry or not lmao)

  • @tambob82
    @tambob82 4 месяца назад +3

    The UK has the BEST crisp/chip game. Worcester sauce, tomatoe, beef and mustard, scampi, prawn cocktail.. But salt n' vinegar will always be #1.

  • @emmyisurmom
    @emmyisurmom 4 месяца назад +1

    I would also 1000% watch that musical

  • @zazajf
    @zazajf 4 месяца назад

    I totally have the same issue with people eating. The first time I heard the word misophonia was my younger sibling reading an article about how it's related to being really controlling, so that was fun

  • @yeahokay...actuallynah
    @yeahokay...actuallynah 4 месяца назад +1

    been watching old vids from each of their channels when they first met. so sweet to see the fam grow

  • @TwizzleTown
    @TwizzleTown 4 месяца назад

    Ashley, I'm glad you spoke about what happened with your friend! It wasn't boring and very validating as someone who has dealt with an individual who has succumbed to the flaws of their extreme arrogance

  • @ragreen2
    @ragreen2 4 месяца назад +1

    Love the episode! Also "The Flaws of Extreme Arrogance" needs to be a book - that is later turned into a play - that is turned into a movie - that then has enough sequels to milk it of any goodness to die a horrible death ... until 20 years later when it is rebooted into a mini-series on streaming media that reclaims its former glory .. 😉

  • @MargoBTS
    @MargoBTS 4 месяца назад +2

    I agree with Mak, this does seem a little sus. He’s wronged you before, Ashley, I wouldn’t take your time on tour for this. If you want to meet up with him back in NYC that seems better than taking your time in Europe.

  • @Mariethechaotic
    @Mariethechaotic 4 месяца назад

    35:39 that is the most AuDHD thing you've ever said Mak. I am the same way. Except I don't have alarms but I do starve myself until I feel like I'm going to throw up...unrelated to my eating disorder, literally just because I forget or I'm too fixated on what I'm doing

  • @W12_95
    @W12_95 4 месяца назад +1

    going feral wondering where Alayna got that perfectly oversized white shirt, plus everyone is glowing in this episode. Energy is peak ❤

  • @kelbyrogers9741
    @kelbyrogers9741 4 месяца назад +2

    How horrible and hard age 23 is not talked about enough!

  • @LlamaLlamaRedPajamas
    @LlamaLlamaRedPajamas 4 месяца назад +1

    1. The rage email sounds exactly like something I’d do at 23 also
    2. Ashley you didn’t ask but if it was me, I’d get a casual coffee with Daniel (maybe in nyc tho) with the internal knowledge that I’m keeping him at arms length. Sometimes it’s nice to reconnect and catch up, but set a boundary with yourself that you’re not going to get close to him again. But maybe I just like putting myself into toxic situations with friends idk!!

  • @michaelliebow735
    @michaelliebow735 4 месяца назад

    That monologue read like the most pure form of copy pasta

  • @kiannak12
    @kiannak12 4 месяца назад +1

    I LOVE ketchup chips and HATE ranch… sorry Ashley 😂

  • @gwenM
    @gwenM 4 месяца назад +6

    hey does anyone know where i can watch mak's short film? lesbos in space? i cant seem to find it anywhere.
    Love the podcast so much!

    • @JuMixBoox
      @JuMixBoox 4 месяца назад +2

      I've been trying to find it, too, and only ever found the trailer, so I would appreciate it as well. I don't have TikTok, do maybe that's why I'm not in the loop😅

    • @Kateee2005
      @Kateee2005 2 месяца назад

      I don't think it ever came out in the end, like there was a problem or sm

  • @BrittanyS-11
    @BrittanyS-11 4 месяца назад +1

    Sounds like the kind of guy who values people when he feels like they have something to offer him, or when he perceives them as valued by / important to others. I wonder if he’ll be in Europe with people who want to go to your, now sold out, show.

  • @TheMabuhayShuffle
    @TheMabuhayShuffle 4 месяца назад

    Ashley's email sounds like me venting to my therapist about when people have crossed me lmao

  • @mariannetfinches
    @mariannetfinches 4 месяца назад

    This was excellent! We got a hilarious rant, we got tea, we got Ashley's would-be villain origin story.... I'm thrilled honestly. And Daniel doesn't sound like he's worth the effort. Hope Ashley had a fabulous time in Europe 🇪🇺

  • @slaysweetie21
    @slaysweetie21 4 месяца назад +1

    KETCHUP CHIPS R SOOO GOOD 😫😫 FELLOW CANADIAN HERE

  • @sam2633
    @sam2633 4 месяца назад

    love alayna's response to ashley's honesty and love ashley's honesty

  • @Raddiebaddie
    @Raddiebaddie 4 месяца назад +1

    Ketchup chips and all dressed are so good! I need them here in the US 😂

  • @ashleighxnicole3852
    @ashleighxnicole3852 3 месяца назад

    can we get this as a movie pls? I love the reverse parent trap

  • @WAMilyFamily
    @WAMilyFamily 4 месяца назад

    I think I have misophonia, too. I never thought about it until you mentioned that the sound triggers fight or flight. My lizard brain goes bananas over certain repetitive sounds.

  • @isobeltaylor7792
    @isobeltaylor7792 4 месяца назад

    My wife has a friend like yours Ashley and I don’t always know people can change enough to make them a friend you need in your life

  • @WolfSlumberStudy
    @WolfSlumberStudy 4 месяца назад +4

    Yess new episode!! I'm gonna go bury myself Mariana Trench _deep_ into my blankets and get ready to fall asleep to this with a smile on my face :) thanks guys, sending love, one of the cousins

  • @sam2633
    @sam2633 4 месяца назад

    the way alayna says "I was straight" 😂😂

  • @Jovel_
    @Jovel_ 4 месяца назад +1

    For me, Ashley was just speaking the truth, hahahahah

  • @CrimsonWolfie
    @CrimsonWolfie 4 месяца назад

    Ashley! Please come to New Mexico 🙏🏽🌵

  • @sami-yc3xj
    @sami-yc3xj 4 месяца назад

    ALAYNA you are magic indeed, I honestly cannot wait for your pod!

  • @notmyrealname550
    @notmyrealname550 4 месяца назад

    EPISODE WHERE YOU READ OLD JOURNAL ENTRIES PLEASE!

  • @carrieboice9988
    @carrieboice9988 4 месяца назад +2

    Love you guys so much! Thanks for all the laughs!!

  • @RowanWolf22
    @RowanWolf22 4 месяца назад

    I’m actually also one of those who has to have timers set to remind me to eat! It’s VERY common in the ADHD community.. out of sight out of mind; it’s really hard for some of us to remember about food until it’s too late! (And if you take medication, it makes it even worse because the meds put a lot of ADHDrs off food..) the amount of times I hyperfixate on something for hours only to realise I hadn’t eaten all day 😅 it’s why the alarms and timers help us a ton!!!

  • @nikorose977
    @nikorose977 4 месяца назад +1

    my sister has misophonia with forks and things scraping plates and i feel bad because we get annoyed at her for yelling at us to stop but i know she cant help how it bothers her

  • @moony788
    @moony788 4 месяца назад

    „Why am I not famous yet this is so stupid“

  • @geebee3148
    @geebee3148 4 месяца назад +1

    I can't even listen to my dog :( and most noises that come out of him is a licking noise :) only can just about stand my boyfriend eating around me, but I was never happy to eat around my family 😅

  • @farkroy
    @farkroy 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for defending America Ashley

  • @susannahsaurus
    @susannahsaurus 4 месяца назад

    On the note of Love on the Spectrum energy doppelgängers, comedian Chris Distefano IS Tanner and I can’t stop seeing them in each other.

    • @ripley2995
      @ripley2995 4 месяца назад

      hahaha wow I never realized

  • @chrisoneill325
    @chrisoneill325 4 месяца назад

    Still no dates in New Jersey!! Come back here, Ashley!!

  • @nicolegulino
    @nicolegulino 4 месяца назад +1

    Ashley kinda slayed. idk she shouldn't be embarrassed. I'd do the same thing, but maybe I'm just insane.

  • @RaiofLight
    @RaiofLight 4 месяца назад +1

    Oh, only 900 subscribers away from 100K 🎉
    Let's make it happen. Join the chosen fam 👏💚

  • @LegallyLlama
    @LegallyLlama 4 месяца назад +1

    Succumb to the flaws of extreme arrogance, we have cookies (or Ketchup Chips)

  • @emilythouin2207
    @emilythouin2207 4 месяца назад +1

    Ketchup chips are amazing !!!!

  • @nena7316
    @nena7316 4 месяца назад +1

    maks hair is so cute

  • @canadianicedragon2412
    @canadianicedragon2412 4 месяца назад

    Alayna's home... the shock value...
    Also fun episode, even (especially?) with the angry Ashley throwback....
    My 2¢ on seeing him again... You remember him, it has been years, you were friends... your choice of course but my question would be Do you want to see what he's become and maybe decide if "never" is the right choice? Don't get me wrong, he sounds incompatible with you back then, and if he hasn't changed, still incompatible. But if you have any doubts that completely cutting ties was "too much" then for YOUR peace of mind maybe meet him... but maybe not in you limited Europe time.