@@eefani was rocking the p890 yesterday and it was a 2 shot kill out to medium range, like AR range (with a headshot) And 3 shots out to like 35 40 meters away Definitely give it a shot Also the deagle in this game is great too, it 2 shots out to like infinite range (with a chest shot) MW2 weapons aren’t bad imo, they have terrible visual recoil and bad minimum damage, but overall still very enjoyable
The MW2 guns arent necessarily bad theyre just insanely inconsistent, theyre clearly not reworked and just lazily ported to mw3. Like the taq-56 for example, sometimes it killed mfs in 3 shots but other times you dump 5 or 6 shots and it does absolutely nothing
yeah it's really as if they never tested them and hoped they'd work in this game too, it sucks because i want as much variety as possible but never see anyone using the MW2 guns lmao
And barrels and stocks have too many cons And not enough pros They are actually useless why tf would i want a -2% ads and a +50 to all my recoils or a -7% to all recoils and +70% to ads time 🤦
yes they are, without meta attachments they are straight up UNUSABLE, even with them they underperform : damage is inconsistent and not adapted to the new mw3 game and ttk, movement is slow in all of em again cause its not adapted to mw3 movement, recoil and specially visual recoil are again not adjusted and so on and so forth...They didnt rework a single thing about any of those guns to make them even slightly viable in this game...
thankfully the MW3 attachments make most of them usable tho especially the new suppressor and paracord grip! if we were forced to use the MW2 attachments we'd be screwed 😂
MW2 Guns mainly relied on the attachment tuning most of the time and since mw3 has more health than what mw2 had they never rebalanced mw2 guns to fit into mw3 as well
@MigySaan tuning got 2 pretty significant changes over the life of the game. It went from often times a bad idea to a negligible difference to a real advantage for some builds.
@@HNcomicsyeah, remember how everyone put it on the max? Then half way through they changed it so that way you had to slightly move the tuning so the stat you want was the biggest out of the circle chart
Kinda sad the MWII guns still haven't been updated to MWIII's standards in terms of visual recoil. I want to use some iconic guns but combined SBMM there is just no point.
Only a few of the MW2 guns got benefit from the past of the different season patch buffs or even with some attachments like the Zehm compensator, the quartermaster suppresor and even the new Paracord grip. Ignoring what i wrote earlier: -The visual recoil and the recoil in general of the guns are really atrocious -If the gun doesn't have that tons of recoil, then his damage is dramatically low -Putting attachments that "benefits" ur weapon alot is basically ruining the entire "Handling" and ergonomic stats of your gun. So, is extremly slower. -Every MW3 gun is gonna beat you in a realistic situation gunfight.
yea I've been using the chimera for fun and the 10" barrel you need to have any decent range makes the gun so slow, it works out fine in the end but it's noticeably worse than most of the mw3 guns
it was my favourite lmg in MW2 because it felt really fast, i quite enjoyed it in this video too but i wish i didn't use the incendiary rounds haha it actually shoots marshmallows
Absolutely no one uses the m13c😂has too much recoil and is a downgrade of the m13b. The only mw2 guns we use is the kastov762 cvsn kit, m13b, lachmann shroud cvsn kit, minibak and many more
I still do. The only MW2 weapon is best, known that i only use, is SCAR-SSR (TAQ-M). Underrated. Best DMR in the game. Better than KVD Inforcer. Talk done.
Yes bro. I play warzone (because is free) and this my second favorito dmr (ftac recon is my love, even if it is a terrible gun for warzone) and man this gun is sleeping hard (and my taq is level 8). This gun is very strong, have a good fire hate and the recoil is not that bad and you can control easy (this gun can actually compete to some broke mw3 guns)
loving the long form vids. actually really nice having them break up the regular 8-12 min uploads. and i see the extra effort you're putting into editing! keep up the great work man!
This better not be a compromise to getting a nuke with all the modern warfare 2 AR’s, SMG’s, and LMG’s because this is good but I really wanna see you do MW2 guns bro I love your stuff
i use m2w guns quite often actually as i didnt do some of the "completionist" calling card challenges in mw2 last year. Some notable really slept on guns: M4. As it should always be. not the best, but its actually really solid Iso hemlock (honestly a favorite of mine) Razorback Cronen Squall (a bit slow, but its ttk is good) RAPP Sakin (Honestly, i consider it a top tier LMG right behind the bruen with the kit and DG58 w kit) Lachman shroud (with or without kit honestly. if you use it without kit and build it for speed its one of the fastest builds in the entire game for ads, stf, and sprint speed)
Honestly mw2 guns are good (some not) it just really matters on the attachments and how you use the guns (or even which gun you are using) really depends on the attachments and kinda the map you are on. (Just my opinion)
I wish they would have done a big balance patch and just buff all the mw2 weapons as at least they could compete with the new ones. Too late now I guess though
they keep slightly buffing the MW2 guns but they're still nowhere near the MW3 ones. maybe by the time BO6 is out well have them be properly balanced lol
The only useable MWII weapons that I’m aware of are: 1. TAQ-56, due to no damage drop off and useable at very long ranges with one headshot or neck shot making it a competitive TTK 2. Vel 46, best range of smgs and can outgun ARs at range if accurate 3. Sakin, this is actually one of best lmgs with very low recoil and fast TTK but it’s just extremely slow 4. TAQ-M, actually a better semi auto marksman rifle than any of the MWIII ones- it’s a better KVD Enforcer. Other than that, every other MWII weapon is a weaker version of an MWIII weapon for the most part, whereas the 4 I listed can at least outgun other meta weapons from MWIII
for some reason all the mw2 pistols with akimbo are (mostly) unusable, the biggest example being the ftac seige which does 11 DAMAGE. it’s a 3 to 4 shot in HARDCORE 😭
the reason for some mw2 guns headshot wise, they have no headshot multiplier. which makes them shoot depending on what gun the same bullets it take for body shots. which is crazy. ☹ a few have it, but the rest, have to stay with body shots, sadly.
honorable mentions for MW2 Guns that are fun: Deagle (50 GS), the two Main Kastov Conversions but theyre fine without too (Kastov 545, 762), the Conversion Kit M16 and the FJX Imperium. those are just my personal favourites and the only ones i deem usable ngl
I don't know where the RAPP H falls on this scale, but I gave it a go today; and holy shit I genuinely don't think I've used a more "pea shooter" gun before.
MW2 guns are extremely hit or miss, no in-between. You have guns like the Chimera and M4 which are sleeper metas, and then you have guns like the FSS Hurricane and FTAC Recon that make no sense in terms of damage values.
I'll give you a bunch of good options if you want to use them (statistically): M13B, FR Avancer, ISO Hemlock, Lachmann 556, MP7, PDSW, Taq V, Bas-P, (no shotguns, they're terrible), Sakin, SPX, MCPR, Taq-M, FTAC Siege and Tonfa. Love you Ethan! ❤
Since you‘ve used the Taq-56 on me on skidrow I love that gun. Feels great on keyboard even tho im a beginner at playing mouse. (Started playing keyboard because of you)
Me and my homie use mw2 guns alot and some of them r pretty good they ain't no mcw or stg but they r ok I like the m4 w a ads build and the new suppresser and a red dot and the Lockman sub is decent also the aks r good there alot of decent mw2 guns
MW2 guns were still problematic in their own game with so many bloated attachments and no Expanded details, the Receiver system, attachment design in MWII, timed perks, minimap drama, footsteps and DS nerf, and so much more feels like so many poorly designed and thought out ideas. It got bad to the point people were recommended not to use ANY attachment because of how bad it was the year before. It’s just that MW3 really dwarfs and exposes MW2 design flaws a lot more too. Wish SHG could fix it but it's a huge workload it wouldn't be worth it from a Dev time view.
Mw2 guns are horrible in my opinion the visual recoil and aim shake is annoying I used the vel46 once and it was ok but nothing compared to superi/rival/static
With every MW2 weapon, i always put the ammunition that increases bullet velocity. MW2 weapons fire rate is super low compared to MW3 weapons fire rate
I enjoy the higher HP more overall, but i do think they messed up by adding the MW2 guns anyway. They really didn't have enough guns in the game to warrant the full price of a new game so i assume that's why they did it, but it just clutters the game with so much useless stuff lol
As someone who levelled up most of the mw2 weapons in this game, most of them are useful and can have their own roles but shotguns are in the worse state out all categories, br thought are surprisingly good, also the ftac has been turned into the spam semi auto br that really benefits from both a good trigger finger and mag holster
2:08 You shot a lot at the limbs. TAQ-56 is actually decent if you're hitting the torso and head consistently but it's awful if you're hitting limbs, which will happen in a game with this kind of pace and movement.
@@eefan honestly that's kind of the deal with a lot of the mw2 weapons i've noticed. their picky damage multipliers work in a game where there isn't so much crazy movement since you can hit center mass more often. completely different ballgame with mw3 though.
I am sure they didnt bother to actually patch mw2 weapons also funny thing lachman shroud does more damage than normal lachman and the lachman shroud single fire mode deal more damage than burst mode
Interestingly enough, I do enjoy the MWII guns, but yeah some are still not the greatest, it's either the bullet velocity is awful, the recoil (visual or actual) is sometimes unbearable, and the consistency in damage range is odd. What makes them bad to use is that you have to use them differently handling wise. The M4 is honestly as good as the MCW (at least in close to medium range), although it would never have the chance in consistency. Alot of the MWII guns are now more comfortable, but won't be super competitive whatsoever. Also, the Lachman Shroud with the conversion kit actually performs alot better than the normal Lachman Sub (I hate the firearm names straight from Wish 😂). Quite a few aftermarket parts with the MWII are nice. As MWIII ages, if finished well after season 6, it might have a chance to age as well as MW19 (In it's own way).
@@eefan i think they might if they add more aftermarket parts for them like they did with the M16 and I think the Shroud. The m16 is, I think the most viable mw2 weapon to combat the metas but it’s just barely even ground.
Despite not playing MWII last year, I only use MWII guns now in MW3. In every previous COD, each new set of guns had a special feeling, be it if they are guns with real-life counterparts or they just had something to make them interesting. To me none of the MW3 guns have that interesting factor to them and they just seem boring. The MCW doesn't feel as good to use as the og MW3 ACR even though they look almost identical.
There are still some good MWII weapons options. The RAAL MG can 3 hit kill to the upper chest in MP which gives it a fast TTK. The SAKIN MG38, Kastov 762 and Kastov 545 can be built for a ton of Recoil Control so it can be effective at longer distances if built right. The RPK recently got a conversion kit that turns it into a quite solid Sniper Rifle. I think if the devs made adjustments to the MWII weapons more often it could give the meta some more diverse options.
i ended up using the tempus razorback recently and was really surprised by it. little recoil with a surprisingly competitive ttk. might be worth giving a shot
Tempus Razorback, FJX Imperium, AUG, smg AUG, Cronen Squall, the ISO 45 hits, honestly other than the KAR for sniping I like the Imperium, thing is just satisfying
Hi Ethan Since you do not use LMGs often and I am sure your looking for more content. I got a hip-fire LMG build that I think you will find fun and a nice change of pace. It is the tac - Evolvere Class setup is: Breacher Device L muzzle VX Pineapple Underbarrel 200 round 556 belt ( increases the fire - rate ) Corvus Peo Beam - 5 Laser 5.56 Armor Piercing The ammunition is optional but I find that the bit of extra wall pen is a must sometimes. Much love Ethan and hope to see your next vid with this build
A few months ago, I got back into WZ because i wanted to see how it was since I left during the broken Vanguard BR, and the atrocious MWII. so I got in and I was thinking “What? Why am I level 1?” Ignoring that I went to BR and got one of my old loadouts with an mp5 and golden bryson 750 I went into the firing range to try them out and OH the issues i had with them. Mp5: •atrocious recoil •horrible movement speed •peashooter damage •huge spread Bryson: •average damage •Sluggish movement •painfully slow ads The issues could go on, but I Made my point. Sledgehammer Didnt even glance at the old Guns. In the mw2 MP those guns were fine, but as soon as I used them in mw3 the became absolute trash
I assume it's because they wanna sell as many new bundles as possible so they make all the old guns terrible, but tbh i wish the MW2 guns weren't even in the game at all. It clutters everything for no reason and every gun has 100000 attachments now lmao
@@eefan the weird thing is that I never had the problem of old weapons being trash compared to new weapons in the original WZ. Despite the the broken Vanguard weapons, I never thought that the MW or CW guns were horrible, they were holding up pretty well considering that the movement and damage were balanced to the MW engine. Plus I never bought any bundles and yet I was on par with any other player. If im not wrong MW2 and 3 incentivices people to buy “Pro” bundles that gives a boost on something like ads if you use the unmodified blueprint. Your video shows the glaring issues with the mw2 guns, their inconsistent dmg, slow movement in general, and their bonkers recoil
The thing with MW2 Weapons is that they have almost no Range at all, some shred up close and start shooting peas after 5 meters
and they have hardly any headshot multiplier! it's really odd how they haven't properly buffed them but i guess they want us buying new bundles.
@@eefani was rocking the p890 yesterday and it was a 2 shot kill out to medium range, like AR range (with a headshot)
And 3 shots out to like 35 40 meters away
Definitely give it a shot
Also the deagle in this game is great too, it 2 shots out to like infinite range (with a chest shot)
MW2 weapons aren’t bad imo, they have terrible visual recoil and bad minimum damage, but overall still very enjoyable
@@phamson9435 3 shot with a slow rpm is a slow ttk unfortunately
Not to mention the atrocious visibility when shooting
You really can’t blame the guns fr you gotta blame the devs who didn’t care to buff the MW2 weapons in MW3, that 100 - 150HP ruins the weapons sadly
i assume sledgehammer were forced to add the MW2 guns and now they can't be bothered balancing 200 guns lol
@@eefan all they can do is drop a conversation kit for all the MW2 guns😭
My thoughts exactly those guns were fun af but the 150 hp was a shitass idea instead of doing literally anything about the base movement
@eefan i assume sledgehammer were also forced to add 150 hp and cod devs in general can't seem to balance even 4 guns.
The MW2 guns arent necessarily bad theyre just insanely inconsistent, theyre clearly not reworked and just lazily ported to mw3. Like the taq-56 for example, sometimes it killed mfs in 3 shots but other times you dump 5 or 6 shots and it does absolutely nothing
yeah it's really as if they never tested them and hoped they'd work in this game too, it sucks because i want as much variety as possible but never see anyone using the MW2 guns lmao
And barrels and stocks have too many cons And not enough pros They are actually useless why tf would i want a -2% ads and a +50 to all my recoils or a -7% to all recoils and +70% to ads time 🤦
No even ported, it's just the same game. I've played on maps from MWII, shoot house, breenburge hotel, farm 18
yes they are, without meta attachments they are straight up UNUSABLE, even with them they underperform : damage is inconsistent and not adapted to the new mw3 game and ttk, movement is slow in all of em again cause its not adapted to mw3 movement, recoil and specially visual recoil are again not adjusted and so on and so forth...They didnt rework a single thing about any of those guns to make them even slightly viable in this game...
Also, ads time across the board is slower and no mw2 gun HAS ANY HEADSHOT MULTIPLAYER, ITS BUGGED SINCE LAUNCH
thankfully the MW3 attachments make most of them usable tho especially the new suppressor and paracord grip! if we were forced to use the MW2 attachments we'd be screwed 😂
@@fly_pie_1172the Chimera and Lachmann 556 have nasty headshot multipliers
@@LeviBarnorit’s impossible to use the chimera on mnk
@@tommysanchez4757 really? Why?
even if the MW2 guns aren't too good, they're for sure a lotta fun to mess around with, some of my favs are the Geist and ISO's
Squall is also pretty neat too
I completely forgot about the Squall, i used to love that gun in MW2 bc it instakilled lmao
Basically the bas b with more idle sway and recoil@@eefan
The big and the little ISO’s are fun
@user-gx8xp3cf2y it's also basically a dmr on semi auto
MW2 Guns mainly relied on the attachment tuning most of the time and since mw3 has more health than what mw2 had they never rebalanced mw2 guns to fit into mw3 as well
Attachment tuning barely even did anything
@MigySaan trust me it did alot for the meta guns if you try to use meta attachments from mw2 in mw3 on mw2 guns it would be the worst thing imagined
Ah yes I remembering spending hours retuning a gun after every match to see switch tweaks suited my play style. Kinda miss it now
@MigySaan tuning got 2 pretty significant changes over the life of the game. It went from often times a bad idea to a negligible difference to a real advantage for some builds.
@@HNcomicsyeah, remember how everyone put it on the max? Then half way through they changed it so that way you had to slightly move the tuning so the stat you want was the biggest out of the circle chart
The thing with the taq 56 is that it has an incredible ttk at longer ranges, 465ms, making it really good on long range gunfights
yeah i heard it has no damage falloff which is really weird, wonder if that's intentional or not lol
@@eefan That's kinda wild since it had at least 3 damage profiles in MW22
Kinda sad the MWII guns still haven't been updated to MWIII's standards in terms of visual recoil. I want to use some iconic guns but combined SBMM there is just no point.
don't worry, by the time BO6 is out all the MW2 guns will be usable in MW3! lmao
I love the way you say “HOLD” for some reason it always kills me
holdddddd
Only a few of the MW2 guns got benefit from the past of the different season patch buffs or even with some attachments like the Zehm compensator, the quartermaster suppresor and even the new Paracord grip.
Ignoring what i wrote earlier:
-The visual recoil and the recoil in general of the guns are really atrocious
-If the gun doesn't have that tons of recoil, then his damage is dramatically low
-Putting attachments that "benefits" ur weapon alot is basically ruining the entire "Handling" and ergonomic stats of your gun. So, is extremly slower.
-Every MW3 gun is gonna beat you in a realistic situation gunfight.
every gun besides the Stormender 💀
I've still yet to unlock the paracord grip but people keep raving about it, knowing my luck it'll be nerfed by the time i get it lol
@@eefan too bad. hopefully not tho
yea I've been using the chimera for fun and the 10" barrel you need to have any decent range makes the gun so slow, it works out fine in the end but it's noticeably worse than most of the mw3 guns
@@kaimuu Chimera's ttk is insanely low, i think it's better than some MW3 ARs
I'm pretty sure that's why they introduced aftermarket parts for mw2 weapons, they realized no one was using them and none of the guns are viable.
im glad they did too, before they added them i didn't see any MW2 guns at all lol
The lachman shroud conversion kit is probably my favorite gun in the game rn it’s so good
It’s satisfying to use but tbh that thing shoots marshmallows
@@elxse4478 it’s a 4 shot kill at the max range damage
it's the fastest killing smg in the game
@@elxse4478it does not shoot marshmallows, maybe in warzone but not search
@@D2forthawin_sevistral just tried it 5 mins ago, it does
I’ve been having fun using the M16 and MP5 recently. Definitely some of the exceptions from MWII
The M16 with the conversion kit is one of my favourite guns in the game, it feels NICE
@@eefan Yeah, you should maybe give the standard M16 a try. I've even gotten One Trick on it
the Icarus is so fun to run around with. it feels fast and has a good fire rate so it isn't as bad as other lmgs
it was my favourite lmg in MW2 because it felt really fast, i quite enjoyed it in this video too but i wish i didn't use the incendiary rounds haha it actually shoots marshmallows
The LM-S marksman rifle is GODLY (I’m delusional)
now that's a gun ive never seen in MW3 to say the least lmfao
wait that gun was in the game first of all
thats a gun people didnt even use in MW2
@eefan and i never seen that gun
@lemanzpp5386 no it's good. As long as you up the ammo count and suppress it, it's a beautiful pick off DMR
I actually used that FTAC & Cronen Squall a lot. Got em both gold and maxed.
I used to love the Squall in MW2, never used it in this game tho!
1:45 "not quite a MWII map" *sees skidrow*. But quite literally a MW2 map 😅
the names of these cods are so confusing now lmao
Reason I call MWII MW22 instead. There is no misunderstanding that.
I do a little bit since I don’t have much guns leveled up but later on I probably won’t
makes sense! the levelling takes forever in this game lol
M16 with its aftermarket part lowkey slaps
sledgehammer has tried so hard to fix them with the aftermarket kits haha
It is still a worse version of the MTZ-556 unfortunately. MTZ has better handling, range, TTK and arguably the same difficulty of recoil
Absolutely no one uses the m13c😂has too much recoil and is a downgrade of the m13b. The only mw2 guns we use is the kastov762 cvsn kit, m13b, lachmann shroud cvsn kit, minibak and many more
@User-m4a1-zero minibak is dirt imo. Fr avancer is really good at shredding upclose and the rapph gets no love
Idk what you're talking about, the M13C is one of the only mw2 guns I see anyone use, other than the mp5 and m4. It's also one of my favorite guns
@@Sigmatronproductions nah I've seen the m13c ONCE. That thing is terrible bro
I still do. The only MW2 weapon is best, known that i only use, is SCAR-SSR (TAQ-M). Underrated. Best DMR in the game. Better than KVD Inforcer. Talk done.
Yes bro. I play warzone (because is free) and this my second favorito dmr (ftac recon is my love, even if it is a terrible gun for warzone) and man this gun is sleeping hard (and my taq is level 8). This gun is very strong, have a good fire hate and the recoil is not that bad and you can control easy (this gun can actually compete to some broke mw3 guns)
6:50
i forgot this finishing move existed and died when i saw it again 😂
there's so many finishing moves in this game that are so funny, they've done a great job imo
The guy who said cheat really said « look how he is jumping, he is cheating for sure » perfect exemple of the toxic bad player french community.
i have jump hacks mate haha
En vrai il y en a partout des joueurs toxiques
@@eefan omg he was right 🫨
@@Akuma_no_masuta c’est pas toxic juste mongole la
loving the long form vids. actually really nice having them break up the regular 8-12 min uploads. and i see the extra effort you're putting into editing! keep up the great work man!
cheers mate, the editing and longer videos seem to be working so they're here to stay!
This better not be a compromise to getting a nuke with all the modern warfare 2 AR’s, SMG’s, and LMG’s because this is good but I really wanna see you do MW2 guns bro I love your stuff
1:44 i feel your pain.
steams absolutely crushing my dreams
bro i love seeing eefan final get some recognition it's like witnessing ur baby grow❤️
lmao this month's been mad can't lie
LMAO 6:25 THE FRENCH GUYS SAYING THAT YOU CHEAT 🤣
classic
The little mini screen flash from the smoke every time you shot the ftac recon is a reason i hate using mw2 weapons.
idk what they were thinking adding all of that clutter lmao
i think i used a single gun on my primary for the whole of mw2 because all the guns were so inconsistent 😭😔
i use m2w guns quite often actually as i didnt do some of the "completionist" calling card challenges in mw2 last year.
Some notable really slept on guns:
M4. As it should always be. not the best, but its actually really solid
Iso hemlock (honestly a favorite of mine)
Razorback
Cronen Squall (a bit slow, but its ttk is good)
RAPP
Sakin (Honestly, i consider it a top tier LMG right behind the bruen with the kit and DG58 w kit)
Lachman shroud (with or without kit honestly. if you use it without kit and build it for speed its one of the fastest builds in the entire game for ads, stf, and sprint speed)
Honestly mw2 guns are good (some not) it just really matters on the attachments and how you use the guns (or even which gun you are using) really depends on the attachments and kinda the map you are on. (Just my opinion)
Even if they are not as great as the MW3 ones, I love that they are still in the game there is lots of variety in this multiplayer.
the post launch content sledgehammer has added into this game is the best support we've had on multiplayer in so long
I wish they would have done a big balance patch and just buff all the mw2 weapons as at least they could compete with the new ones. Too late now I guess though
they keep slightly buffing the MW2 guns but they're still nowhere near the MW3 ones. maybe by the time BO6 is out well have them be properly balanced lol
When you were using the ftac recon, the two french people were saying you cheat with a lockhead/aimbot 😂
they probably couldn't believe i was making the ftac recon work haha
10:02 was so crazy lol from whiffing shots to hitting a nasty throwing knife lol
The lachman shroud with the amp is actually one of the best smgs in the game like stats wise xclusive ace made a vid on it
Was about to say this. With the conversion kit, that thing is like a top 3 smg
The only useable MWII weapons that I’m aware of are:
1. TAQ-56, due to no damage drop off and useable at very long ranges with one headshot or neck shot making it a competitive TTK
2. Vel 46, best range of smgs and can outgun ARs at range if accurate
3. Sakin, this is actually one of best lmgs with very low recoil and fast TTK but it’s just extremely slow
4. TAQ-M, actually a better semi auto marksman rifle than any of the MWIII ones- it’s a better KVD Enforcer.
Other than that, every other MWII weapon is a weaker version of an MWIII weapon for the most part, whereas the 4 I listed can at least outgun other meta weapons from MWIII
for some reason all the mw2 pistols with akimbo are (mostly) unusable, the biggest example being the ftac seige which does 11 DAMAGE. it’s a 3 to 4 shot in HARDCORE 😭
whenever i used the akimbo ftac sieges in the firing range i didn't even kill the first dummy lmfao
Tbh the mcpr is the only weapon that doesn’t need the aftermarket parts on WZ but yeah they forgot all about the mw2 guns
I have to play on extreme mode so I can at least feel the quality against mw3's submachine guns
the reason for some mw2 guns headshot wise, they have no headshot multiplier. which makes them shoot depending on what gun the same bullets it take for body shots. which is crazy. ☹ a few have it, but the rest, have to stay with body shots, sadly.
daddy eefan is cooking with mw2 guns🐢🔥
excuse me
@@eefan jk
honorable mentions for MW2 Guns that are fun: Deagle (50 GS), the two Main Kastov Conversions but theyre fine without too (Kastov 545, 762), the Conversion Kit M16 and the FJX Imperium. those are just my personal favourites and the only ones i deem usable ngl
i haven't used the deagle much in this game actually, might have to whip it out for a video
@@eefan you should, yk its recoil but everything for style and onetaps
Daemon 9mm is solid, I’ve dropped 100 bombs with it exclusively. But I tried the m4 and it felt so bad with the visual recoil.
They also buffed the kv shotgun amp (-20% vertical recoil) this season.
like it wasn't already insane lol
Dude uploaded this just after the RPK 50 cal conversion 💀
gonna unlock that tomorrow, it sounds ridiculous tho lol
Genuinely one of the most unfun things I've ever played against @@eefan
One mw2 gun that is very good is the ffar. That gun is amazing it just has slow mobility.
i feel like most MW2 guns have horrible mobility especially when you put on a bigger mag lmao
I don't know where the RAPP H falls on this scale, but I gave it a go today; and holy shit I genuinely don't think I've used a more "pea shooter" gun before.
I've never used that gun in MW3 lmao
TBF it was underwhelming in MW22... The gun really should've had a 3 shot to the upper body since it was a 7.62 Nato gun....
Ethan having a legitimate blast using the Shield + RPG was not something I expected.
Im changing my name to riot shield user as we speak.
I see ur using the new suppresser on everything I'm glad u like it lol
literally slapping it on everything bro lmao
The TAQ M is one of the best DMRs like 2 tap is consistent and 1 to the dome, only MW2 gun that slaps
MW2 guns are extremely hit or miss, no in-between. You have guns like the Chimera and M4 which are sleeper metas, and then you have guns like the FSS Hurricane and FTAC Recon that make no sense in terms of damage values.
not to mention the akimbo MW2 pistols like the X13s and the Sieges, the fact someone looked at those and thought 'yeah this is balanced' is insane lol
Well technically, Skidrow is a MW2 map, just the OG MW2 lol
the names of these cods man lmfao
I'll give you a bunch of good options if you want to use them (statistically): M13B, FR Avancer, ISO Hemlock, Lachmann 556, MP7, PDSW, Taq V, Bas-P, (no shotguns, they're terrible), Sakin, SPX, MCPR, Taq-M, FTAC Siege and Tonfa. Love you Ethan! ❤
just as long as i don't have to use the ftac siege akimbo ill be fine 😂
Since you‘ve used the Taq-56 on me on skidrow I love that gun. Feels great on keyboard even tho im a beginner at playing mouse. (Started playing keyboard because of you)
lmao ggs man, hope you stick to kbm!
bro is doing anything for views now, playing ranked with hackers and now mw2 guns. Props to you man.
the pain can't stop.
Nothing makes me happier than seeing people using the ftac recon. My pride and joy
Me and my homie use mw2 guns alot and some of them r pretty good they ain't no mcw or stg but they r ok I like the m4 w a ads build and the new suppresser and a red dot and the Lockman sub is decent also the aks r good there alot of decent mw2 guns
yeah i heard the new suppressor makes the M4 with no stock actually usable, kinda intrigued!
MW2 guns were still problematic in their own game with so many bloated attachments and no Expanded details, the Receiver system, attachment design in MWII, timed perks, minimap drama, footsteps and DS nerf, and so much more feels like so many poorly designed and thought out ideas. It got bad to the point people were recommended not to use ANY attachment because of how bad it was the year before.
It’s just that MW3 really dwarfs and exposes MW2 design flaws a lot more too.
Wish SHG could fix it but it's a huge workload it wouldn't be worth it from a Dev time view.
Mw2 guns are horrible in my opinion the visual recoil and aim shake is annoying I used the vel46 once and it was ok but nothing compared to superi/rival/static
a lot of the shake and visual recoil can be fixed by the MW3 attachments thankfully, but yeah it's still not ideal!
“Not quite a modern warfare 2 map, but we’ll take skidrow” one of the most ironic things I’ve heard on a cod video in a while
All I’ve been using is MW2 guns lately and you’d be surprised how good some of them are and how fun they are. Definitely worth trying them all out
I still really enjoy using the minibak on small maps you got any other good ones? I’m bored of the mw3 guns
With every MW2 weapon, i always put the ammunition that increases bullet velocity. MW2 weapons fire rate is super low compared to MW3 weapons fire rate
i completely forgot about high grain rounds in this video, they make such a huge difference on the MW2 guns!
The way that guy spun around had me dead 4:01
I feel like a part of the reason why MWII guns feel bad in MWIII is because were all used to using them with a much faster TTK in MWII.
The chimera is horrible, but some guns can be used with aftermarket kits
the lachmann sub and lachmann 556 are incredible. just dropped a 65 kill game on domination with a 2.1 kd. feels pretty good to me
5:20 Yeaah, agree with u, the supressor sounds good 😄
They really messed up by changing the health amount to 150. The MW2 guns were not designed with that in mind.
I enjoy the higher HP more overall, but i do think they messed up by adding the MW2 guns anyway. They really didn't have enough guns in the game to warrant the full price of a new game so i assume that's why they did it, but it just clutters the game with so much useless stuff lol
Legit no one talks in lobbies anymore especially in S&D. I have to talk shit just to get a reaction 😂😂😭
it's so boring to me now, ive moved over to respawn and dropping nukes for fun since absolutely noone talks lol
F-TAC RECON is full auto, but can be used in semi auto which increases it's damage per bullet.
The AKs with that one AMP, kinda go hard
6:43 You are a better teammate than me. I would have snatched that kill away.
As someone who levelled up most of the mw2 weapons in this game, most of them are useful and can have their own roles but shotguns are in the worse state out all categories, br thought are surprisingly good, also the ftac has been turned into the spam semi auto br that really benefits from both a good trigger finger and mag holster
2:08
You shot a lot at the limbs. TAQ-56 is actually decent if you're hitting the torso and head consistently but it's awful if you're hitting limbs, which will happen in a game with this kind of pace and movement.
makes sense, this game is so fast most of the time it's hard to keep up haha
@@eefan honestly that's kind of the deal with a lot of the mw2 weapons i've noticed.
their picky damage multipliers work in a game where there isn't so much crazy movement since you can hit center mass more often. completely different ballgame with mw3 though.
I am sure they didnt bother to actually patch mw2 weapons also funny thing lachman shroud does more damage than normal lachman and the lachman shroud single fire mode deal more damage than burst mode
I dont know why but its funny to hear finnish when the video creator is not finnish 😂 (i am finnish)
The Finns were saying 'how does he know.' meaning they were kinda like calling you a cheater. :DD
lmao they weren't having a good time to say the least!
I've just now started using mw2 guns and it's refreshing. The Fennac still burns
if only the fennec had a bigger mag than 45!
The Decimator kit for the lauchman shroud is actually way better than the lauchman sub. It was designed for MWIII where SMGs are very good.
Interestingly enough, I do enjoy the MWII guns, but yeah some are still not the greatest, it's either the bullet velocity is awful, the recoil (visual or actual) is sometimes unbearable, and the consistency in damage range is odd.
What makes them bad to use is that you have to use them differently handling wise.
The M4 is honestly as good as the MCW (at least in close to medium range), although it would never have the chance in consistency.
Alot of the MWII guns are now more comfortable, but won't be super competitive whatsoever.
Also, the Lachman Shroud with the conversion kit actually performs alot better than the normal Lachman Sub (I hate the firearm names straight from Wish 😂).
Quite a few aftermarket parts with the MWII are nice. As MWIII ages, if finished well after season 6, it might have a chance to age as well as MW19 (In it's own way).
yeah the names of the MW2 guns are so goofy haha
I actually played most of last season with an SPX sniper and taq 56 because I was new to the game and got to diamond on resurgence
All they have to do is just increase the headshot damage range by a lot because I don’t even think it exists for the mw2 guns
for sure, they probably will never do that though because they want people to buy bundles for the MW3 guns instead lol
@@eefan i think they might if they add more aftermarket parts for them like they did with the M16 and I think the Shroud. The m16 is, I think the most viable mw2 weapon to combat the metas but it’s just barely even ground.
The 556 icarus is actually really good in MW2...and is apparently pretty good in MW3
Wished mw2 guns were also in ranked 😢😢 would of been cool seeing the Lachman and Vaznek somewhat reliable in mp ranked
imagine queueing into ranked and you see your teammates using a MW2 gun, id dodge 😂
The TAQ honestly isn’t bad with high grain rounds I believe but still doesn’t always hold up to other mw3 meta weapons
I completely forgot to put on high grain lmao
Love the long vids, keep it up
Cheers :)
i didnt get a single plat camo for an MWII gun until MWIII came out cause getting longshots on the REAL OG MW2 MAPS was so insanely easy LOL
I find that the MW2 guns are pretty fun to use.
Sure they aren't really that good, but I like them. They're fun, and that's all I care about
that's all it's about at the end of the day!
funny you made this, i just made a Vasnev-9K in MWIII
i should've used that as the SMG in this video, TAQ56 and Vasnev throwback haha
@@eefan guess you gotta make a part 2 now 😎😂
Despite not playing MWII last year, I only use MWII guns now in MW3. In every previous COD, each new set of guns had a special feeling, be it if they are guns with real-life counterparts or they just had something to make them interesting. To me none of the MW3 guns have that interesting factor to them and they just seem boring. The MCW doesn't feel as good to use as the og MW3 ACR even though they look almost identical.
21:27 mate u are cranked, so much movement which gives me inspiration to play 🤩
:)
There are still some good MWII weapons options.
The RAAL MG can 3 hit kill to the upper chest in MP which gives it a fast TTK.
The SAKIN MG38, Kastov 762 and Kastov 545 can be built for a ton of Recoil Control so it can be effective at longer distances if built right.
The RPK recently got a conversion kit that turns it into a quite solid Sniper Rifle.
I think if the devs made adjustments to the MWII weapons more often it could give the meta some more diverse options.
Dude the AK74U is crazy good, even better than the TAQ tbh
i ended up using the tempus razorback recently and was really surprised by it. little recoil with a surprisingly competitive ttk. might be worth giving a shot
Tempus Razorback, FJX Imperium, AUG, smg AUG, Cronen Squall, the ISO 45 hits, honestly other than the KAR for sniping I like the Imperium, thing is just satisfying
Hi Ethan
Since you do not use LMGs often and I am sure your looking for more content.
I got a hip-fire LMG build that I think you will find fun and a nice change of pace.
It is the tac - Evolvere
Class setup is: Breacher Device L muzzle
VX Pineapple Underbarrel
200 round 556 belt ( increases the fire - rate )
Corvus Peo Beam - 5 Laser
5.56 Armor Piercing
The ammunition is optional but I find that the bit of extra wall pen is a must sometimes.
Much love Ethan and hope to see your next vid with this build
I used to use the max strafe speed evolvere prenerf when then tac stance version of that gun was insane, i miss it :(
@eefan but you have to try this hipfire build, it's very fun and I think you'll like.
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Ftac recon really got that lower head and upper head damage 😭
actually tho lmao
A few months ago, I got back into WZ because i wanted to see how it was since I left during the broken Vanguard BR, and the atrocious MWII.
so I got in and I was thinking “What? Why am I level 1?” Ignoring that I went to BR and got one of my old loadouts with an mp5 and golden bryson 750
I went into the firing range to try them out and OH the issues i had with them.
Mp5:
•atrocious recoil
•horrible movement speed
•peashooter damage
•huge spread
Bryson:
•average damage
•Sluggish movement
•painfully slow ads
The issues could go on, but I Made my point.
Sledgehammer Didnt even glance at the old Guns. In the mw2 MP those guns were fine, but as soon as I used them in mw3 the became absolute trash
I assume it's because they wanna sell as many new bundles as possible so they make all the old guns terrible, but tbh i wish the MW2 guns weren't even in the game at all. It clutters everything for no reason and every gun has 100000 attachments now lmao
@@eefan the weird thing is that I never had the problem of old weapons being trash compared to new weapons in the original WZ.
Despite the the broken Vanguard weapons, I never thought that the MW or CW guns were horrible, they were holding up pretty well considering that the movement and damage were balanced to the MW engine.
Plus I never bought any bundles and yet I was on par with any other player.
If im not wrong MW2 and 3 incentivices people to buy “Pro” bundles that gives a boost on something like ads if you use the unmodified blueprint.
Your video shows the glaring issues with the mw2 guns, their inconsistent dmg, slow movement in general, and their bonkers recoil
Hitmarker collateral is actually wild 😭
the game hates me bro
@@eefan me to man me to