As an American, I can confirm that childhood arson is a thing we all did. It’s practically a national pastime. Even better if it contributes to our siblings becoming supervillains. Two-Face having a brother is an interesting concept. Reminds of Matt Wagner’s Faces arc, wherein he meets another “Two-Face” who’s been able to live a happy life despite his predicament. Something similar could have been done with Murray here. He would’ve gone through the same abuse Harvey did as a child, but if he’d ended up different, you’d wonder why Harvey went the way he did. You’d have to question if people are the products of their environment or if they make their own choices or maybe a bit of both. As it stands, though, Murray Dent basically never existed, and I’m fine with it staying that way. I actually now want to see a Joker story revolving around ice cream. That sounds perfect for him. Like the Laughing Fish/Sign of the Joker or Dreadful Birthday, Dear Joker, it could be a smaller scale ridiculous crime that doesn’t push him as the greatest threat to the world ever. I still have no idea why Two-Face of all people would do this. Dairy products more broadly would make sense, but why ice cream specifically? Batman easily shrugging off dangerous toxins and basically being fine afterwards is probably his superpower. He can just willpower his way out of fear toxin, why not Two-Face toxin?
This just popped up in my feed, and I got excited. However, I realized these are uploads of former patreon exclusive videos. It saddens me because it means he's not coming back, but it means content I've never seen before, so it will be a breath of fresh air. Hope all is well dude.
So that's where that hilarious panel of Batman kicking Two-Face while he's eating ice cream came from. Sean Phillips art aside, which I think was kinda wasted here, I can see why no one really talks about this story.
This comic could have been really good because the concept is really fun. But the dumb twist and the bad writing really dragged it down. The artwork is awesome though!
Honestly i think the concept of this story is a fascinating one, except for the ice cream part that is, Harvey blaming himself for Murray’s death is something i think we’d all do, even if Murray was a bad kid, he didn’t deserve to burn to death, also two-face’s scheme is pretty unique as it reminds me of his scheme in the Batman vs Two-Face movie.
It wasn't _that_ bad, was it? Maybe it's because after reading every Two-Face story out there, this new original take was a nice change of pace for me. Can't really elaborate witout spoiling issue 3 that came out in 2021 (so some readers ), but the twist was pretty well executed, even if a bit too obvious...
Oh, come on! You wouldn't have released this vid on the main channel if you weren't feeling "the itch" again! Are YOU auditioning to be a new Batman villain? The Coy Man? Mister Hinter? Take on the persona of a youtuber, why don't cha? Release the repressed memories!
Mr. Rogues can you do top 5 best Mandarin stories, top 5 best Justin Hammer stories, top 5 best Crimson Dynamo stories, top 5 best Titanium Man stories, top 5 best Ghost stories, top 5 best Madame Masque stories, and top 5 best Iron Monger stories They're Iron Man villains
I can get behind that, but it seems to me that he's not incredibly well versed in Iron Man stuff, I think the only villains of his he ever mentioned were Firebrand and Blizzard
Introducing a new character who has never been mentioned before into the past of a character whose been around for awhile is a tough sell. If DC revealed that Superman had a previously unheard of long lost brother who was sent to another planet other than Earth, it would be pretty hard to accept that retcon at this point. I don't really like the idea that Harvey Dent had a brother all this time that we never heard about all throughout Harvey Dent's/ Two-Face's history.
The “poison Gotham with evil” plan was way better executed in Batman: Black Mirror. But, to be fair, maybe Two-Face was more interested in erasing his good half than anything else. Harvey himself seemed to look forward to it in 8:06
Thhat evil scheme was also later re-used by Dent in the 2017 animated movie *"Batman vs Two-Face"* (sequel to the equally awesome 2016 "Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders") with William Shatner finally getting the role, and Adam West/Burt Ward would play the dynamic duo together for one last time..
This story is a worse version of "My Own Worst Enemy" from Scott Snyder's _All-Star Batman._ It doesn't have all the cool villain cameos, the art isn't memorable, and Harvey is pretty lame here. I'm surprised this was written by Paul Jenkins of all people since he usually turns out great character stories.
Also i think they may have made this story to make fun of Batman Forever and the changes in artstyle goofiness trying too hard etc may have been done on purpose
Let us all have a moment of silence to remember those who've died on September 11th, 2001
I actually forgot about that for a while yeah it's that day again
rip
Guys, I don’t think he’s coming back. He said it himself that these are just old videos from his patreon
he did make the caped crusader video but at the end i think he said that it would be just one video
Damn
Nooooo, i want him back
It's still nice to get these.
He probably got to pay the rent and tackle RL stuff , well that my guess 🤔
I’m glad I didn’t know this story existed, and that we're getting these patreon vids on the channel.
As an American, I can confirm that childhood arson is a thing we all did. It’s practically a national pastime. Even better if it contributes to our siblings becoming supervillains.
Two-Face having a brother is an interesting concept. Reminds of Matt Wagner’s Faces arc, wherein he meets another “Two-Face” who’s been able to live a happy life despite his predicament. Something similar could have been done with Murray here. He would’ve gone through the same abuse Harvey did as a child, but if he’d ended up different, you’d wonder why Harvey went the way he did. You’d have to question if people are the products of their environment or if they make their own choices or maybe a bit of both.
As it stands, though, Murray Dent basically never existed, and I’m fine with it staying that way.
I actually now want to see a Joker story revolving around ice cream. That sounds perfect for him. Like the Laughing Fish/Sign of the Joker or Dreadful Birthday, Dear Joker, it could be a smaller scale ridiculous crime that doesn’t push him as the greatest threat to the world ever.
I still have no idea why Two-Face of all people would do this. Dairy products more broadly would make sense, but why ice cream specifically?
Batman easily shrugging off dangerous toxins and basically being fine afterwards is probably his superpower. He can just willpower his way out of fear toxin, why not Two-Face toxin?
I hope you're coming back to youtube, If not then I am glad to be able to see these ones at least. Thank you either way.
This just popped up in my feed, and I got excited. However, I realized these are uploads of former patreon exclusive videos. It saddens me because it means he's not coming back, but it means content I've never seen before, so it will be a breath of fresh air. Hope all is well dude.
It’s good having Mr. Rouge back
I think this is just him releasing old patreon exclusive videos for his general audience, I don't know if he actually going to be coming back.
It's Really Good Having You Around Again
Great having you back Rouges!
Batman Earth One did something similar, but at least in that story we got to pass some time with the Dent siblings and warm up to both.
Its nice to see these patreon videos uploaded.
So that's where that hilarious panel of Batman kicking Two-Face while he's eating ice cream came from. Sean Phillips art aside, which I think was kinda wasted here, I can see why no one really talks about this story.
This comic could have been really good because the concept is really fun. But the dumb twist and the bad writing really dragged it down. The artwork is awesome though!
I am very happy to see the new videos )
Honestly i think the concept of this story is a fascinating one, except for the ice cream part that is, Harvey blaming himself for Murray’s death is something i think we’d all do, even if Murray was a bad kid, he didn’t deserve to burn to death, also two-face’s scheme is pretty unique as it reminds me of his scheme in the Batman vs Two-Face movie.
Mr. Rouge would hate what they did to Two Face in the Gotham Knights tv series.
HOLY F I CANT BELIEVE THIS. I thought noone else knew about this comic
Paul Jenkins is an interesting writer. When he hits, he often nails it, but when he misses, he *really* strikes out.
Something similar was done in Batman earth one. Harvey had a twin sister. It was pretty dumb.
It wasn't _that_ bad, was it? Maybe it's because after reading every Two-Face story out there, this new original take was a nice change of pace for me. Can't really elaborate witout spoiling issue 3 that came out in 2021 (so some readers ), but the twist was pretty well executed, even if a bit too obvious...
Oh fuck he's returned!
Mister. Ronks.
Oh, come on! You wouldn't have released this vid on the main channel if you weren't feeling "the itch" again! Are YOU auditioning to be a new Batman villain? The Coy Man? Mister Hinter? Take on the persona of a youtuber, why don't cha? Release the repressed memories!
Hope you've had a good day
Joker was right, you're awful, murray
😆
Holy cow the king of rouges is back
Unfortunately not for long
YES!!!!! He actually did it
It good to have you back. Mr Rogues⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐💯
So is this worse than that story with Two Face dressing up as a clown and going to circus?
Maybe
Mr. Rogues can you do top 5 best Mandarin stories, top 5 best Justin Hammer stories, top 5 best Crimson Dynamo stories, top 5 best Titanium Man stories, top 5 best Ghost stories, top 5 best Madame Masque stories, and top 5 best Iron Monger stories
They're Iron Man villains
I can get behind that, but it seems to me that he's not incredibly well versed in Iron Man stuff, I think the only villains of his he ever mentioned were Firebrand and Blizzard
@@turkishjanitor3666 OK, thank you
He's not back, he's just uploading old patron videos
It's good to have you back, Rogues. :)
I think he's just uploading old Patreon videos. But who knows? Maybe he'll cover The Penguin or Joker Folie a Deux.
Introducing a new character who has never been mentioned before into the past of a character whose been around for awhile is a tough sell. If DC revealed that Superman had a previously unheard of long lost brother who was sent to another planet other than Earth, it would be pretty hard to accept that retcon at this point. I don't really like the idea that Harvey Dent had a brother all this time that we never heard about all throughout Harvey Dent's/ Two-Face's history.
The “poison Gotham with evil” plan was way better executed in Batman: Black Mirror.
But, to be fair, maybe Two-Face was more interested in erasing his good half than anything else.
Harvey himself seemed to look forward to it in 8:06
Thhat evil scheme was also later re-used by Dent in the 2017 animated movie *"Batman vs Two-Face"* (sequel to the equally awesome 2016 "Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders") with William Shatner finally getting the role, and Adam West/Burt Ward would play the dynamic duo together for one last time..
@@randallflagg3700True. I should rewatch that one of these days. Great movie.
This story is a worse version of "My Own Worst Enemy" from Scott Snyder's _All-Star Batman._ It doesn't have all the cool villain cameos, the art isn't memorable, and Harvey is pretty lame here. I'm surprised this was written by Paul Jenkins of all people since he usually turns out great character stories.
What a odd story.Good review,though.
Back from the grave
Wow how have i never heard of this comic is it really that obscure? And especially with all the changes to Two-Face
Also i think they may have made this story to make fun of Batman Forever and the changes in artstyle goofiness trying too hard etc may have been done on purpose
Are you going to bring back forgotten villains
Not likely, read his community posts.
Why did you choose the two worst stories of your favorite Batman villains ? I bet Harleen will be as bad as the rest.
The patreon members voted on these apparently.
@@Victor-qx3vxI guess they wanted him to review bad stories💀
@@Doodle1678I mean… He gave them the options.
He could’ve put better stories on the poll.
I miss u daddy 😖