Thanks Patti. Your perspective on New York, and you being one of its great artist is very intriguing. Like reading articles that Walt Whitman wrote about New York. It's fun. Makes me smile.
I believe that mirroring and transforming are synonymous. Artists cannot transform without looking into societies mirror in my opinion. It’s a big picture and artists are keen,and practiced to see it, gather it, and translate the nuance of what is transforming societies details, In front of them ! I have studied both Patti and Robert for years now if that lends anything here ?
When an artist reflects the condition of the world back and people see that reflection it has the full potential to transform one! So it a false claim that reflecting and transforming are somehow mutually exclusive! Very very odd! The thing about Warhol's works is that he does not dictate to the viewer a preconceived transformation or adgenda, you have to look, see, find and choose and do the transforming for yourself ... whatever that maybe. His work is not prescriptive! didactic prescriptionism appears to be the order of the day, a sure way to make the potential of art dogmatic, dead and transformatively weak! Maybe that's why so much PC art is so empty, lifeless and boring to any thoughtful person.
She doesn't make any sense. You can't look at the Marilyn series or Mick Jagger series by Warhol and not see some kind of transformation. Maybe it wasn't worth doing, but it was transforming. Patty Smith was working with the same 12 notes of the tonal musical system. Her work was not that extreme because she worked within that system like every other musician who has ever had hit record. If she had been totally microtonal and transformative nobody would have ever known of her as a pop personality - nobody would understand her musical language.
9/11 is such irresistible artistic grist-for-the mill for the misery-obsessed, 'Magic Mountain' art-as-pain sensibility. Every A-list celeb and B-list rock star had to put their foot in their mouth about 9/11. Typical Patti, she can even make 9/11 all about her. If you're a long-suffering P.Smith fan like me you'll know Patti has been on that 'Tower Of Babel' jazz for decades. Maybe it's still not the time to describe the WTC and the nearly 3000 people who were ground into dust there that way?
Great interview, great Patti! Loved 'Just Kids.' A fantastic read.
Thanks Patti. Your perspective on New York, and you being one of its great artist is very intriguing. Like reading articles that Walt Whitman wrote about New York. It's fun. Makes me smile.
Thanks Patty
I believe that mirroring and transforming are synonymous. Artists cannot transform without looking into societies mirror in my opinion. It’s a big picture and artists are keen,and practiced to see it, gather it, and translate the nuance of what is transforming societies details, In front of them ! I have studied both Patti and Robert for years now if that lends anything here ?
Right on. Just about sums up how I feel as well.
Warhol transformed himself.
I love this. ♥️
yippee to patti & andy.....
Who is the "Robert" she mentions ???
+Zepster77 Robert Maplethorpe
Robert Mapplethorpe her once lover and friend
@@bowiejones5769 thanks!
@@Zepster77 YOUR welcome
When an artist reflects the condition of the world back and people see that reflection it has the full potential to transform one! So it a false claim that reflecting and transforming are somehow mutually exclusive! Very very odd!
The thing about Warhol's works is that he does not dictate to the viewer a preconceived transformation or adgenda, you have to look, see, find and choose and do the transforming for yourself ... whatever that maybe. His work is not prescriptive!
didactic prescriptionism appears to be the order of the day, a sure way to make the potential of art dogmatic, dead and transformatively weak!
Maybe that's why so much PC art is so empty, lifeless and boring to any thoughtful person.
She doesn't make any sense. You can't look at the Marilyn series or Mick Jagger series by Warhol and not see some kind of transformation. Maybe it wasn't worth doing, but it was transforming. Patty Smith was working with the same 12 notes of the tonal musical system. Her work was not that extreme because she worked within that system like every other musician who has ever had hit record. If she had been totally microtonal and transformative nobody would have ever known of her as a pop personality - nobody would understand her musical language.
9/11 is such irresistible artistic grist-for-the mill for the misery-obsessed, 'Magic Mountain' art-as-pain sensibility. Every A-list celeb and B-list rock star had to put their foot in their mouth about 9/11. Typical Patti, she can even make 9/11 all about her. If you're a long-suffering P.Smith fan like me you'll know Patti has been on that 'Tower Of Babel' jazz for decades. Maybe it's still not the time to describe the WTC and the nearly 3000 people who were ground into dust there that way?