That's awesome, 6k miles, you are putting it to great use. I put over 130 off-road miles on mine this weekend at an event and was impressed with how it handles. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
We have amazingly similar situations. I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro last year as many of my Harley riding buddies had bought adventure bikes. I quickly realized the off road limitations of both me and the bike. Several months ago I bought a 300 Rally as a side bike to my Road Glide and Triumph. It's about 25 pounds heavier than a standard 300 but part of that is the 1.5 gallons of extrafuel it carries. It has quickly become my go to bike. Being 170 pounds lighter that the Tiger I can take it anywhere. Now my adult son Brandon learned to ride on the Rally so I bought a 300L as well so we can ride together. The two Hondas are similar but also very different, I have aftermarket tires on both along with the usual assortment of addons. I considered the KLX to go with the Rally but figured I would eventually upgrade the suspension on either so I bought the 300L. These are all great bikes and huge fun for small dollars.
Very similar situations indeed! The weight difference vs our ADV bikes is very significant and I find myself jumping on the smaller bike very often as well. I'm taking my KLX to a charity event ride this weekend via a hitch carrier that includes camping and a 135-mile off-road route (I'll be posting a video on that event called the Blue Ridge 250). I purchased a 1 gallon Giant Loop Gas Bag to extend my distance, something you don't need for the 300 Rally due to the larger tank. It was a brilliant move for Honda to offer the 300 Rally, if it were available last year I might have purchased that bike as my first ADV capable bike vs. the KTM. Smart move keeping the 300's within the same brand because you have more flexibility in shared parts and components, especially if you take them on a long adventure. And one more thing in common, my youngest daughter wants to learn how to ride on my KLX but get this, there's a Honda MSF training facility near us that teaches on and off-road riding for beginners so maybe a Honda is in my near future ;). Cheers and thanks for watching!
I bought the KLX camo just because I didn’t want a bleeping red bike. Either bike would have been fine. I also didn’t want the green KLX. I didn’t pull the trigger on a good truck buy because it was ugly red.
The KLX 300 continues to impress me. Same here, I keep pushing this bike and it handles everything I throw at it very well. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
That was my uncle and I at 1:50 sec. I remember talking to you at the hooch run in suches. Great video look forward to seeing you out there again this year !
I just watched it @1:50 to see you guys, very cool! I will be at the hooch this year and plan on creating another video but on likely on my KLX 300. Please keep a lookout for me and I'll get you video again. I'll try to keep up this time, ha! Cheers and see you at the Hooch!
Generally long term the Honda in the off road/ dual sport category at least in my area of the country would hold a higher resale value for longer. Usually the fit and finish on Honda and Yamaha products is just better than that on the Kawasaki and Suzuki products. Most riders over about 160 lbs w/gear on will need to upgrade the suspension for any type of remotely capable offroad duty anyway so the big deal on the suspension will not really be in play for many buyers. And actually for most trail type of riders the higher torque of the Honda engine will be more beneficial in more situations that the higher horsepower on the Kaw. Also where is the weight carried on the two bikes? Just from appearance the Kawasaki may be lighter but it appears its weight may be carried higher than the Honda. Just another persons opinion and things to consider.
Good points and I'll add it appears the popularity of Honda is also greater to add to the long-term value. For me, I don't plan nor wanted to invest in new suspension. I wanted a bike that is ready for the type of riding I do but that's the beauty of having choices. With regards to the HP and torque differences, I'm curious if the difference is truly noticeable with the tight margins of both, mixed reviews I've seen so far on RUclips. Both are great bikes that get the job done. Thanks for the comment and for watching the video!
Wrong. The Honda is cheaper than a dollar store greeting card. The torque is a myth. That 286cc engine from the CB300 is gutless. I’ve ridden Groms that feel faster. The KLX is so much better built than the mountain bike suspended CRF. The CRF is a poser; the KLX is the real deal. You get what you pay for here folks.
Good video I just picked up the Kawasaki KLX 2023 model Same reasons that you purchased. I’m a veteran rider and I absolutely love this bike I’m so impressed with Kawasaki design right out of the box! Esp the dash, suspension and seat I’m in Southern California let me know if there’s any rides out here :) Happy Riding! Allan
Congrats! It's a great bike. I've had mine for over a year and am very happy. I'll be doing a 1+ year review soon and assessing if I feel I made the right decision buying the KLX 300. Here's a great site that lists dual sport events throughout the US that might have some local ones near you. usdualsports.com/dual-sport-rides/
Thanks and I’m right there with you. The Camo is so freaking cool. I love looking at it in my garage and makes me look good too. By the way, you’ve got one of the best RUclips names I’ve seen, awesome! Cheers and enjoy the KLX!
Good buying decision with the KTM 390. I was seriously considering it as well but none were in stock and I ended up buying a KTM 790 ADV R instead. I bought the KLX 300 after as a second lighter bike for single track and challenging dual sport events.
I really like both bikes but am leaning towards the Honda for now..? I know I’ll be riding trails, gravel roads, and around town most of the time BUT undoubtably will do short road trips once in awhile as well. Having selectable ABS is something I want when on the hard roads. I can upgrade the Honda suspension but I can’t add ABS to the Kawasaki. Edit: Thanks for your time and effort putting this video together! Great job!
Thanks for the comment! Yes, ABS is a major deal. If I planned on riding to the trails then I would have gone for the Honda due to the ABS for sure. I use my carrier to take my KLX to the trails and have the KTM with all of the electronic safety features for the road so I avoid road riding with my KLX when possible. Cheers and hope you choose soon, these bikes are a blast to ride!
abs aint a big deal on these lil ol dirt bikes camon, grow a pair, sides its fun sliding rear up to a stop on road an watch the looks on peoples faces. 😄
@@sboy1955 what its called is nannys u dont F'in need on these. KLX 300 D/S: Ive max gripped that single front brake plenty. on road an off. sure the back will lock up but its a really mighty stomp on it to do that. Christ, I got a 2012 1000cc 140hp an no TC or ABS nuthin. heall aint even got a gear indicator. great bike. fun n fast as heall. here in Fl I rode in plenty in rain, downpours. no prob/s. any bike u dont wanna jam on the front brake, everyone knows that. c-o-n-t-r-o-l. I save me braking, not some nanny ctrl. u spec sheet warriors baffle an befuddle me. really.
This was an extremely tough decision for me. I'm a huge yamaha guy and with the drop of the WR250r I had these two to choose from.... after going back and forth for 9ver 6 months I finally ordered the CRF300L. Honda just holds value more and people absolutely love them. Kawasaki just isn't as popular, and I want resale value to hold if a WR350r or something comes out.
Tough decision for me as well. Glad you made a decision, you will enjoy the CRF. A WR350r or similar at good price would be a great dual sport & small adventure bike. Thanks for watching!
@DoodMang They recently came out saying they need to get costs down in order to compete with Asian markets, so hopefully a 350r comes out and I'll be first in line haha.
What resale value of motorcycle? Especially if it gets trashed as most off road bikes should be trashed ... Honda probably has bigger customer base thoygh because a lot of people feel more comfortable starting on Honda brand as they are more familiar with it and its good reputation.
Thanks for the video. It's ironic how I landed in the exact same place as you. In my younger years I ran hare scrambles and endros mostly on 2 stroke MX bikes. I still have a WR450F which I ran desert scrambles with but for this old guy it getting hard to hang onto. So I added a BMW F700GS ADV bike for dual sport, but man I'm struggling with the size and weight. So it looks like I'll ditch the 450 and go with one of these bikes and like you add some mods. Everyone says the same thing about the suspension difference, which makes me lean towards the Green Machine as my retirement gift from me to me.... Case closed.
Thanks for sharing your story, good reference for someone like me that does not have the extensive off-road experience you have but approaching a similar place based on where we are in our motorcycle riding journey. What a great retirement gift, you deserve it! I'm sure you will also get a good return on your WR450F in today's market. Also, for the record the KLX 300 adjustable suspension has been a game changer for me now that I'm around 1,000 miles. I've tightened up the rear shock twice now as the bike breaks in and as I push it further. It's just not an option for the Honda. The adjustable suspension verdict is out there, especially as suspension softens even more as miles add up. I think it's a big advantage for the KLX.
Last trail bike owned 1986 TT225 street legal six speed 280mm ground clearance 98kg dry weight .. $2500AUD new from memory . Wheelstands at will …jumps no issue , power slides a breeze …rocky hills easy. Ok only about 90 km cruise speed on road. Built like a tank . These bikes are they really better?
Good point. The only true newish parts on these bikes are the fuel injection and suspension. People want new though so for the price point, these are great bikes in today's market and standards. Also, there are a lot of people like me that either don't have the skills or the time to work on older bikes when things break down. I always wanted a project bike though... Thanks for the comment.
I'm 55 years young an I always road a Honda but bought the klx an love it. Low end grunt but fast enough to ride on the road. It's perfect for someone who can't get out every weekend.
Nice! Youngsters like us have to have our toys and the KLX is a great one. I'm also having a blast on mine. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Have fun and ride safe.
Good choice, I'm guessing a good set of risers too due to your hight. I found the KLX stock handlebar risers too low so I changed out the risers and bars.
Interesting video, and methodology. I did a video where I took both on and offroad side by side and I gave Honda the slight edge over the Kawasaki. Mainly for me it was the transmission, slipper clutch, and the display. I also felt the Honda looks more modern, but I did mention that I like the camo KLX300 graphics. If you get a chance check out the video, I enjoyed yourse btw.
Thanks for the comment and for watching my vid. I've watched your vids over the past several months and love your content! I wish I had the opportunity to test ride both side by side but none of the dealers in my state and surrounding states had any in stock to do so. It was a very difficult decision between these two bikes also considering I'm a Honda fan. The biggest factors for me were the adjustable suspension and the looks. The slipper clutch in my case not so much. My KTM has a slipper clutch where I wish I had better engine breaking for the tight off-road corners. I like the engine braking of the KLX and can take corners much more aggressively now vs. my KTM but I know that the weight difference between both bikes plays a role as well.
Thanks! Get your name on the waiting list at dealers for both bikes. I worked with several that had a refundable deposit option for me to hold my spot for both the KLX and CRF. It gives you time to think it out, plan it out and pull the trigger or not once it's available. Thanks for watching!
I love Hondas but between these two bikes, I feel the better adjustable suspension alone puts the Kawi over the top. No doubt that the Honda has better dash, looks, and headlight. Most of that is is just flash, (except for the headlight), not needed. I've also heard alot of chatter about Honda flame out with this model. I bought the Kawasaki, lowered it a bit and will change out the snorkle and headlight. Good to go except for the pipe. I don't want it to be too loud so I'm hesitant on changing the pipe out. Still thinking about it.
I’m with you on the loud pipe, thing. People think they like them until they go for a 50 plus mile ride. It gets old real quick, maybe the stock silencer can be uncorked a little. Good luck
@@deborahchesser7375 Yeah, I used to have loud pipes on my road bike. The older I get, the less I like noise. I like to ride up into the woods without scaring the bejeesus out of everything in the woods. I get to see more wildlife and hopefully, they are a little less rattled as well.
The better and adjustable suspension makes a big difference. It was proven to me on a recent event ride where I rode significant miles off-road, adjusted/tightened my rear suspension to proper sag, and rode more off-road. The difference in control and feel were significant and allowed me to ride more aggressively. Thanks for watching!
2021 KLX delkevic carbon tried different things comes with 2 baffles, street one installed, a lil loud, but since its a off road model put in the spark arrestor one and thats just right. chk my vids on it, have a listen but if u going offroad u really should put in the spark arrestor one that comes in box not installed-
Good point with the iconic Kawasaki green version. More visible on the road and off-road which is a good safety benefit. The darker Frag Camo blends a bit into the environment on both surfaces. Thanks for watching!
Someone with the right skills can probably do so in second gear but these bikes are not in the same league as a KTM 350 EXC-F or equivalent Husqvarna or Beta but they are only a little over half the price to buy. I would say these are good bikes for beginner to intermediate riders but I would love to hear the opinions out there as this is only mine. I’ve been able to lift the front over small logs in first and second gear. I’ve seen other RUclipsrs pulling wheelies too like Nolan Rides but I don’t have that skill set yet. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! A slipper clutch has an integrated freewheel mechanism that decreases engine breaking when you decelerate. I have it on my KTM 790 and its smoother than traditional clutches. For my dual sport I actually like engine breaking when I'm headed into off road sharp corners so it depends what you want. Thanks for watching, cheers!
I’m about to do the same thing I have a T7 but want the smaller but capable KLX I was just wondering is the trip meter interrupted when you are low on gas I heard you can’t see the miles traveled due to the low gas light
I don’t believe so. I recall being able to track my miles after the low gas light and warning come on. I think what you read might be referring to the low gas warning words that appears on the dash along with the low gas warning light which is separate from the display. I recall being able to clear the low gas warning in the display by clicking on the mode button which brings back the odometer, trip 1 and trip 2 miles. I tested mileage before and after low gas indicator came on so I do remember being able to track miles after it went off. I’m very glad and feel lucky to have both bikes which are completely different machines with different purposes. Cheers
Sorry to hear that. Off-road motorcycle sales has been interesting in the US over the past two years. Hit or miss with in store stock. I had to put $ down on my KLX and wait it out. And buying a used bike is just as challenging where prices have seemed to climb due to low new stock inventory. Thanks for watching! Cheers
I’m juggling between the CRF300 and the KLX300. The KLX300 is my top choice, but the Honda felt pretty roomy in the seat. That said, you can’t beat the suspension on the klx. I also have a Kawi voyager for long road trips. I’d actually like to make the klx a mini adv tbh
If you plan on making the KLX a mini ADV then adjustable suspension will come in handy when you add camping weight to the bike. I just added TUSK luggage racks to mine (easy to remove for dual sporting) where I can add luggage options for overnight camping but will need to tighten up the rear suspension to do so. I’ve already adjusted the rear suspension twice and have it just right with no bottoming out even on heavily rutted roads and single track. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I doubt it because the Honda has a slipper clutch which tends to be very smooth. My KTM 790 ADV R has a slipper clutch and it's super smooth. WIth that said, the Kawasaki shifts just fine. It's a little worse during the break in period though.
Las dos motocicletas son muy bueno pero tienen sus diferencias. La mejor manera a decidir es probar los dos si tienes la oportunidades. Otras maneras es a hablar con personas que tienen las motocicletas y los mecanicos donde vende las motociletas. ¡Buena suerte y gracias por su comentos!
Who Makes a larger tank for these, I lost mine in a wildfire, ready to get another, but for LONG distance adventure riding, I need a bigger tank..and not just.7 gallons,,
Both of these bikes are dual sport and have small tanks with a ~2 gallon capacity. The CRF 300 Rally has a 3.4 gallon tank and set up for longer distance light ADV bike type riding. I have a 1 gallon Giant Loop gas bag to give me more mileage. There are after market larger fuel tanks you can purchase for the KLX and Honda, including a rear gas tank for the CRF 300 Rally that adds fuel capacity. I get 7 gallons you will need a true Adventure bike, that's a lot of fuel and a lot of weight. Thanks for watching!
Amazing love your videos.. and yes, I was hoping for camel or safari, etc.. but still researching,..thanks for the reply...I might head to south of the USA, south America etc.. for My first trip instead on Australia lol
Similar situation here. I have the 2022 KLX 300, Camo. About 50 miles on the bike so far. I’ve added: T Rex skid plate, 13 tooth front sprocket, and Seat Concepts seat.
Nice! I love the camo and black combo. I get a lot of compliments on the bike. How do you like that 13 tooth sprocket? I'll be posting a video on some tricks and watch-outs for changing out handlebars that I learned this weekend and haven't seen posted on other videos. I put on ProTaper EVO Windham MX/RM Mid Bend bars and they are lighter than stock. I put them side by side, keep a lookout for the post in a few weeks. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@theEHWAZ Regarding the 13 tooth front sprocket, that definitely pushes torque lower in the power band. You get more of a “crawl without stall” 1st gear experience, but you also shave off some top end. About 63 MPH, I start searching for that imaginary 7th gear. I’m willing to accept the trade off because I bought the motorcycle for off-road riding. I look forward to your handlebar related video. I plan to add hand guards soon, but I’m concerned now about adding them to the stock handle bars. It seems that many owners of the KLX 300 do upgrade the handle bars.
Thanks for the update. Regarding the hand guards, that was one of the reasons why I changed my bars but I also wanted to upgrade to 1 1/8” aluminum. I was able to install an extra pair of Tusk D-Flex Pro hand guards that I had on my KTM and they fit pretty well with minor mods. I now need to paint them black because they are KTM orange. Enjoy the KLX!
I mentioned it in the video but the CRF300L Rally is a brilliant choice for those looking for a dual sport that can also be used as an Adventure motorcycle for longer distance rides, camping etc. if I didn’t have my KTM 790 ADV R, I would have likely purchased the 300L Rally as my all around bike. You will be happy with it I’m sure, cheers!
@@theEHWAZ Exactly! I'm in my late 60's and I was starting to feel the weight of my Africa Twin. So I came to the conclusion that I needed to downsize and go lighter. It was torture trying to decide between the KLX and the Rally. In the end the larger gas tank and all the other comforts influenced my decision. However, had I been younger, lighter, etc. and still had the AT or 790 I would have gone for the KLX.
That's a good question. If the CRF suspension matched the KLX and was also adjustable for front and rear shocks, then I probably would have leaned towards the Honda with the ABS option. The suspension adjustability allows tailoring the ride to match surface/terrain and weight of rider + gear, which is an important factor for the type of off-road riding I am doing. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
I bought a KLX250S when they first came out and was disappointed in it. It was carbureted, top heavy, underpowered. This time I'm going with Honda. It seems to have a lower center of gravity than the KLX and I know their engines are bulletproof. It's a brand new, modern design vs just a bored engine. Going to upgrade the shocks anyway so don't care as much about how the stock shocks compare.
The KLX 300 is fuel injected and the engine is rock solid as well. The suspension and adjustability has been a game changer in my case. I've adjusted it 3 times now based on riding conditions and I'm impressed. I had a budget in mind and didn't want to buy a new bike and then make expensive changes on it like suspension so it all depends on budget and preference. Enjoy the Honda, it's a great bike. Cheers
Objectively speaking, the adjustable suspension has made a big difference for me so far. I’ve adjusted it on 3 occasions now as the bike breaks in and as I get accustomed to it. I can feel a noticeable difference in how adjusting the suspension improves handling when I push the bike harder. I’m very happy with my KLX thus far. Cheers and thanks for watching!
I’m very similar to you. 30 - 31” inseam and 175. When I sit on the bike and it sags my feet are planted firmly on the ground. On one of my last rides I tightened up the rear spring suspension to a 3.5” sag and my feet are still well planed with my riding boots. The KLX is a confidence inspiring bike when you sit on it for those with a 30” inseam in my opinion with the advantage of being able to adjust suspension to get it just right for rider + gear. My KTM 790 is a different story where my heels are off the ground. Need to adjust for more sag on that one. Thanks for watching!
Here is the marketing difference between the two; Honda designs the 300L for torque in the Asian markets, lower seat, accessible to shorter riders in Asia and America. Kawasaki designed a bike for experienced riders who want the suspension and clearance. It's obvious the difference has to do with off road confidence. I have the 300L and love the torque. It really is a dirt bike with blinkers.
If you don't mind me asking what's your height and weight? I have a 2015 yamaha wr250r, but the lower seat height of the other 2 and more low end torque are enticing. Yamaha's got better suspension though.
Sure, I’m 5’10” and 175lbs. When I sit on the bike with gear on, including my ADV boots, and with sag my feet are planted flat on the ground. I might stiffen up the rear suspension a little but need to get more off-road time experience on it to figure it out. If you wait long enough Yamaha might come out with a 300 as well, rumors are out there. Thanks for watching!
Sure, I’m 5’10” and 175lbs. When I sit on the bike with gear on, including my ADV boots, and with sag my feet are planted flat on the ground. I might stiffen up the rear suspension a little but need to get more off-road time experience on it to figure it out. If you wait long enough Yamaha might come out with a 300 as well, rumors are out there. Thanks for watching!
Hate Honda red. Love Kawasaki camo. My use would be off road oriented ADV and the 3.8 gallon fuel tank on the CRF300 Rally is the deciding factor. I can see a 100 mile range on a dirt bike, but dual sport and ADV bikes should have a 300+ mile range. ABS is a big plus as well. Honda should have upgraded the suspension on the Rally for loaded ADV use. At the very least, stiffer variable rate springs with more preload would prevent the squat from using half the suspension travel with a heavy 'Murican rider and 50 pounds of camping gear.
If you are looking for a more ADV oriented bike I agree. The Honda CRF Rally with the ABS is the way to go. To your point, limitation would be the soft suspension considering the extra weight with additional gas and accessories (windshield, skid plate etc.). I have a 1 gallon Giant Loop gas bag for my KLX but I am only using my KLX as a dual sport bike for shorter distance rides. If Honda updates the suspension to your point this bike would be that much better. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the feedback, one of my challenges as I improve my video and audio editing skills is working with the audio volume when narrating. In the case of this video the balance was off at times. If you check out my newer videos you will see a much better balance. It's a work in progress but I enjoy playing music in the background as part of my video style.
Great to see a comment from Thailand, cheers! Hondas seem to be more readily available internationally and cheap spare parts is an import factor for longevity. Thanks for watching!
I considered the DRZ 400 but it’s more expensive $1,200 more than the KLX 300 Camo and $1,750 more than the base CRF 300. For that much more money I would have bought it if it had fuel injection, 6 gears and was lighter, which the KLX and CRF offers. My opinion and reasoning but the DRZ is a legendary bike, I just hope it gets the modern upgrades it needs without a significant spike in cost. Thanks for watching!
@@theEHWAZ I definitely understand what you mean. I am just getting my first drz 400 Tuesday so I'm looking forward to it. Super Moto edition. Fishers Indiana at the Flatout motorsports. I will be on a learning curve this summer and spring. 👍🏻👌🏻 Be safe out there riding.
Both bikes have crappy suspension; however Kawi made their's adjustable crap. So, it gets a superficial point to the layman. In both cases, the suspension has to be upgrades. Thus, there's no real advantage to Kawi for the suspension. Honda's torque, one finger pull slipper clutch, and looks for the win.
Objectively speaking, the KAWA suspension is better than expected and I've been able to adjust the suspension numerous times to get it just right for my weight and when adding luggage. I've ridden it for almost two years now so this is objective experience speaking. Check out other reviews and you'll generally see the same conclusion. Also, if you are buying one of these bikes then you likely have a budget in mind and buying better suspension does not make sense, at least to me. That's why I went with the Kawa and I'm glad I did.
Hah as your skills develop you, like most, will realize that ABS on bikes is a double edged sword that that helps beginners but annoys the experienced. The KLX is on my to do list. In the meantime I buzz around on a Wall Mart camo RT 200 cc turd mini bike that has virtually zero suspension and a terrible CVT...hilariosly fun and a constant teacher of line choice and smooth throttle and brake techniques. Plus when you crash, you are low to the ground and generally so slow that it doesn't hurt that bad.
Oh yeah, and I have felt both sides of that ABS sword. On-road saved my tail. Off-road, almost crashed into a tree. Glad my KLX does not have it as I ride it off-road 90% of the time. I turn ABS off when off-road on my KTM. I also looked up the Wallmart camo RT 200cc and now I want one! Looks like a blast to ride. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Agree, it's annoying but it's not has been as bad as I thought it would be. I know how much gas mileage I have left once the low fuel light indicator comes on.
Agree, the better and adjustable suspension of the KLX is a major advantage in my perspective. Two recent multi-day off-road long rides confirmed it as I adjusted the suspension to match my weight + gear + load I was carrying enabling me to ride more aggressively. Thank you for watching!
Both of these bikes are the absolute shit I'm extremely impressed with what Kawasaki has done I'm a big time Honda Fanboy & would totally be happy with either 1, I actually just purchased the Africa twin adventure sport because my buddy & I were supposed to travel & the way the 🌎 works doesn't look like that's going to happen so I might be trading this off & getting a couple dual sports 1 for me & 1 for whoever's going to ride with me no fun going by yourself 🤷🏻
Totally agree, much more fun riding with others. You can explore more and push the boundaries further knowing you have someone else backing you up. Thanks for watching!
I just learned about that from a comment from the UK on my Fall Foliage video. Do you know why the KLX is not available in Europe? You can’t go wrong with either bike so at least you have one option. Also curious why no 450i, Euro emissions? Thanks for watching! Cheers from overseas.
Depends on what type of riding you want to do. If off-road then no ABS is better. I prefer ABS if given a choice though as long as you can turn it off while riding off road. Thanks for watching
Thanks but no thanks. I smoke these 300's with both my XR250R & even well riding my 1994 XR250L every time I go to Cow Mountain OHVA & Middle Creek recreation area near my home.
Thanks for the comment. Is it the bike, the rider, or both? I see great riders make the most out of their bikes and vice versa. I get passed a lot but it's more about the rider than the bike in my case because I'm slow ;). Cheers!
Simple choice, I refuse to buy a $7k motorcycle sprung for a 12 year old. That's RIDICULOUS. I wanna know when and how it became acceptable to put out half effort products that require the consumer to finish the job??? Idiots are buying them and swapping though so... there's why it's a thing.🤷
Honda makes great bikes and there are riders loving their 300L and others complaining about the suspension. It comes down to the type of riding you plan to do with the bike. If one plans on riding forest roads or easier trails then I’m sure it’s perfect. But when roads or single tracks get rutted, rocky and bumpy or if you are a larger and heavier rider, the stock suspension will not be fun. I’ve spoken to numerous riders and seen the videos that attest to it. I’ve adjusted my KLX suspension twice now and it’s good to know I can adjust based on off-road conditions and when adding weight. Thanks for watching!
I’m 5’10” and around 180 lbs and the KLX 300 suspension post several adjustments works fine on intermediate dual sport and single track trails. Since the last adjustment I have not bottomed out and it handled single track just fine. Will it handle hard enduro, nope but that’s not the type of riding this bike is designed for. The suspension is actually better than I anticipated it would be for the price point. Thanks for watching.
In my opinion, the KLX Frag Camo is a great-looking bike and is much more appealing than the Honda CRF,. To each, its own, and that's why it's great to have choices. I also get a lot of compliments on my KLX 300. Thanks for watching.
I have almost 6,000 mi on my 2021 KLX and it has been a great reliable bike I've done several dual sport rides and had great times on it
That's awesome, 6k miles, you are putting it to great use. I put over 130 off-road miles on mine this weekend at an event and was impressed with how it handles. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
We have amazingly similar situations. I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro last year as many of my Harley riding buddies had bought adventure bikes. I quickly realized the off road limitations of both me and the bike. Several months ago I bought a 300 Rally as a side bike to my Road Glide and Triumph. It's about 25 pounds heavier than a standard 300 but part of that is the 1.5 gallons of extrafuel it carries. It has quickly become my go to bike. Being 170 pounds lighter that the Tiger I can take it anywhere. Now my adult son Brandon learned to ride on the Rally so I bought a 300L as well so we can ride together. The two Hondas are similar but also very different, I have aftermarket tires on both along with the usual assortment of addons. I considered the KLX to go with the Rally but figured I would eventually upgrade the suspension on either so I bought the 300L. These are all great bikes and huge fun for small dollars.
Very similar situations indeed! The weight difference vs our ADV bikes is very significant and I find myself jumping on the smaller bike very often as well. I'm taking my KLX to a charity event ride this weekend via a hitch carrier that includes camping and a 135-mile off-road route (I'll be posting a video on that event called the Blue Ridge 250). I purchased a 1 gallon Giant Loop Gas Bag to extend my distance, something you don't need for the 300 Rally due to the larger tank. It was a brilliant move for Honda to offer the 300 Rally, if it were available last year I might have purchased that bike as my first ADV capable bike vs. the KTM. Smart move keeping the 300's within the same brand because you have more flexibility in shared parts and components, especially if you take them on a long adventure. And one more thing in common, my youngest daughter wants to learn how to ride on my KLX but get this, there's a Honda MSF training facility near us that teaches on and off-road riding for beginners so maybe a Honda is in my near future ;). Cheers and thanks for watching!
I bought the KLX camo just because I didn’t want a bleeping red bike. Either bike would have been fine. I also didn’t want the green KLX. I didn’t pull the trigger on a good truck buy because it was ugly red.
Love my KLX300, I've taken it on a little real tough single track and it did pretty good!
The KLX 300 continues to impress me. Same here, I keep pushing this bike and it handles everything I throw at it very well. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
Both bikes look great and offer adventure and freedom. Got to love it.
Yes! And that’s what it’s all about, adventure and freedom.
That was my uncle and I at 1:50 sec. I remember talking to you at the hooch run in suches. Great video look forward to seeing you out there again this year !
I just watched it @1:50 to see you guys, very cool! I will be at the hooch this year and plan on creating another video but on likely on my KLX 300. Please keep a lookout for me and I'll get you video again. I'll try to keep up this time, ha! Cheers and see you at the Hooch!
Generally long term the Honda in the off road/ dual sport category at least in my area of the country would hold a higher resale value for longer. Usually the fit and finish on Honda and Yamaha products is just better than that on the Kawasaki and Suzuki products.
Most riders over about 160 lbs w/gear on will need to upgrade the suspension for any type of remotely capable offroad duty anyway so the big deal on the suspension will not really be in play for many buyers.
And actually for most trail type of riders the higher torque of the Honda engine will be more beneficial in more situations that the higher horsepower on the Kaw. Also where is the weight carried on the two bikes? Just from appearance the Kawasaki may be lighter but it appears its weight may be carried higher than the Honda.
Just another persons opinion and things to consider.
Good points and I'll add it appears the popularity of Honda is also greater to add to the long-term value. For me, I don't plan nor wanted to invest in new suspension. I wanted a bike that is ready for the type of riding I do but that's the beauty of having choices. With regards to the HP and torque differences, I'm curious if the difference is truly noticeable with the tight margins of both, mixed reviews I've seen so far on RUclips. Both are great bikes that get the job done. Thanks for the comment and for watching the video!
Wrong. The Honda is cheaper than a dollar store greeting card. The torque is a myth. That 286cc engine from the CB300 is gutless. I’ve ridden Groms that feel faster. The KLX is so much better built than the mountain bike suspended CRF. The CRF is a poser; the KLX is the real deal.
You get what you pay for here folks.
Good video I just picked up the Kawasaki KLX 2023 model
Same reasons that you purchased. I’m a veteran rider and I absolutely love this bike I’m so impressed with Kawasaki design right out of the box! Esp the dash, suspension and seat
I’m in Southern California let me know if there’s any rides out here :)
Happy Riding!
Allan
Congrats! It's a great bike. I've had mine for over a year and am very happy. I'll be doing a 1+ year review soon and assessing if I feel I made the right decision buying the KLX 300. Here's a great site that lists dual sport events throughout the US that might have some local ones near you. usdualsports.com/dual-sport-rides/
I'm thinking you can't truly go wrong with either of these bikes, BUT I just bought the KLX camo and LOVE it........makes me look cool too.
Thanks and I’m right there with you. The Camo is so freaking cool. I love looking at it in my garage and makes me look good too. By the way, you’ve got one of the best RUclips names I’ve seen, awesome! Cheers and enjoy the KLX!
I sat on the KLX300l in the showroom. Ended up buying a 22 KTM 390 adventure. So far it seems great.
Good buying decision with the KTM 390. I was seriously considering it as well but none were in stock and I ended up buying a KTM 790 ADV R instead. I bought the KLX 300 after as a second lighter bike for single track and challenging dual sport events.
I really like both bikes but am leaning towards the Honda for now..? I know I’ll be riding trails, gravel roads, and around town most of the time BUT undoubtably will do short road trips once in awhile as well. Having selectable ABS is something I want when on the hard roads. I can upgrade the Honda suspension but I can’t add ABS to the Kawasaki.
Edit: Thanks for your time and effort putting this video together! Great job!
Thanks for the comment! Yes, ABS is a major deal. If I planned on riding to the trails then I would have gone for the Honda due to the ABS for sure. I use my carrier to take my KLX to the trails and have the KTM with all of the electronic safety features for the road so I avoid road riding with my KLX when possible. Cheers and hope you choose soon, these bikes are a blast to ride!
@@theEHWAZ - The kicker is, right now I can find a 300KLX in stock.. but none of the dealers near me have a 300CRF and no idea when they will 😢
abs aint a big deal on these lil ol dirt bikes camon, grow a pair, sides its fun sliding rear up to a stop on road an watch the looks on peoples faces. 😄
@@ribalderr6052 - it’s called a “switch” for a reason
@@sboy1955 what its called is nannys u dont F'in need on these.
KLX 300 D/S: Ive max gripped that single front brake plenty. on road an off. sure the back will lock up but its a really mighty stomp on it to do that.
Christ, I got a 2012 1000cc 140hp an no TC or ABS nuthin.
heall aint even got a gear indicator.
great bike. fun n fast as heall. here in Fl I rode in plenty in rain, downpours. no prob/s. any bike u dont wanna jam on the front brake, everyone knows that.
c-o-n-t-r-o-l.
I save me braking, not some nanny ctrl.
u spec sheet warriors baffle an befuddle me. really.
This was an extremely tough decision for me. I'm a huge yamaha guy and with the drop of the WR250r I had these two to choose from.... after going back and forth for 9ver 6 months I finally ordered the CRF300L. Honda just holds value more and people absolutely love them. Kawasaki just isn't as popular, and I want resale value to hold if a WR350r or something comes out.
Tough decision for me as well. Glad you made a decision, you will enjoy the CRF. A WR350r or similar at good price would be a great dual sport & small adventure bike. Thanks for watching!
I like your strategy im really curious what yamaha is cooking up right now too. I just hope its not 10k when it drops lol
@DoodMang They recently came out saying they need to get costs down in order to compete with Asian markets, so hopefully a 350r comes out and I'll be first in line haha.
What resale value of motorcycle? Especially if it gets trashed as most off road bikes should be trashed ... Honda probably has bigger customer base thoygh because a lot of people feel more comfortable starting on Honda brand as they are more familiar with it and its good reputation.
Thanks for the video.
It's ironic how I landed in the exact same place as you. In my younger years I ran hare scrambles and endros mostly on 2 stroke MX bikes. I still have a WR450F which I ran desert scrambles with but for this old guy it getting hard to hang onto. So I added a BMW F700GS ADV bike for dual sport, but man I'm struggling with the size and weight. So it looks like I'll ditch the 450 and go with one of these bikes and like you add some mods.
Everyone says the same thing about the suspension difference, which makes me lean towards the Green Machine as my retirement gift from me to me.... Case closed.
Thanks for sharing your story, good reference for someone like me that does not have the extensive off-road experience you have but approaching a similar place based on where we are in our motorcycle riding journey. What a great retirement gift, you deserve it! I'm sure you will also get a good return on your WR450F in today's market. Also, for the record the KLX 300 adjustable suspension has been a game changer for me now that I'm around 1,000 miles. I've tightened up the rear shock twice now as the bike breaks in and as I push it further. It's just not an option for the Honda. The adjustable suspension verdict is out there, especially as suspension softens even more as miles add up. I think it's a big advantage for the KLX.
Last trail bike owned 1986 TT225 street legal six speed 280mm ground clearance 98kg dry weight .. $2500AUD new from memory .
Wheelstands at will …jumps no issue , power slides a breeze …rocky hills easy.
Ok only about 90 km cruise speed on road.
Built like a tank .
These bikes are they really better?
Good point. The only true newish parts on these bikes are the fuel injection and suspension. People want new though so for the price point, these are great bikes in today's market and standards. Also, there are a lot of people like me that either don't have the skills or the time to work on older bikes when things break down. I always wanted a project bike though... Thanks for the comment.
I'm 55 years young an I always road a Honda but bought the klx an love it. Low end grunt but fast enough to ride on the road. It's perfect for someone who can't get out every weekend.
Nice! Youngsters like us have to have our toys and the KLX is a great one. I'm also having a blast on mine. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Have fun and ride safe.
I'm a taller guy 6'4" so I went with the Honda and no regrets so far. I dod end up doing the suspension.
Good choice, I'm guessing a good set of risers too due to your hight. I found the KLX stock handlebar risers too low so I changed out the risers and bars.
If I ever consider buying another dual sport with more power I’ll probably go the KLX 300 with that oh so nice camo look to it. 👌🏻
I love the look of the frag camo as well. Very cool design. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the great review!!!
Thanks for watching!
Interesting video, and methodology. I did a video where I took both on and offroad side by side and I gave Honda the slight edge over the Kawasaki. Mainly for me it was the transmission, slipper clutch, and the display. I also felt the Honda looks more modern, but I did mention that I like the camo KLX300 graphics. If you get a chance check out the video, I enjoyed yourse btw.
Thanks for the comment and for watching my vid. I've watched your vids over the past several months and love your content! I wish I had the opportunity to test ride both side by side but none of the dealers in my state and surrounding states had any in stock to do so. It was a very difficult decision between these two bikes also considering I'm a Honda fan. The biggest factors for me were the adjustable suspension and the looks. The slipper clutch in my case not so much. My KTM has a slipper clutch where I wish I had better engine breaking for the tight off-road corners. I like the engine braking of the KLX and can take corners much more aggressively now vs. my KTM but I know that the weight difference between both bikes plays a role as well.
Damn dude that's a very good looking bike congratulations! That makes me want to get 1 of these or the CRF so bad!
Thanks! Get your name on the waiting list at dealers for both bikes. I worked with several that had a refundable deposit option for me to hold my spot for both the KLX and CRF. It gives you time to think it out, plan it out and pull the trigger or not once it's available. Thanks for watching!
I love Hondas but between these two bikes, I feel the better adjustable suspension alone puts the Kawi over the top. No doubt that the Honda has better dash, looks, and headlight. Most of that is is just flash, (except for the headlight), not needed. I've also heard alot of chatter about Honda flame out with this model. I bought the Kawasaki, lowered it a bit and will change out the snorkle and headlight. Good to go except for the pipe. I don't want it to be too loud so I'm hesitant on changing the pipe out. Still thinking about it.
I’m with you on the loud pipe, thing. People think they like them until they go for a 50 plus mile ride. It gets old real quick, maybe the stock silencer can be uncorked a little. Good luck
@@deborahchesser7375 Yeah, I used to have loud pipes on my road bike. The older I get, the less I like noise. I like to ride up into the woods without scaring the bejeesus out of everything in the woods. I get to see more wildlife and hopefully, they are a little less rattled as well.
Slipper clutch put the Honda over the top for me I do hate the Honda suspension though
The better and adjustable suspension makes a big difference. It was proven to me on a recent event ride where I rode significant miles off-road, adjusted/tightened my rear suspension to proper sag, and rode more off-road. The difference in control and feel were significant and allowed me to ride more aggressively. Thanks for watching!
2021 KLX delkevic carbon tried different things comes with 2 baffles, street one installed, a lil loud, but since its a off road model put in the spark arrestor one and thats just right. chk my vids on it, have a listen but if u going offroad u really should put in the spark arrestor one that comes in box not installed-
I have a 2021 I went with the green because it's more visible
Good point with the iconic Kawasaki green version. More visible on the road and off-road which is a good safety benefit. The darker Frag Camo blends a bit into the environment on both surfaces. Thanks for watching!
I love this video!!!!
Aren’t these a bit slow? Can you blip the throttle and lift the front wheel over logs and rocks in 2nd gear?
Someone with the right skills can probably do so in second gear but these bikes are not in the same league as a KTM 350 EXC-F or equivalent Husqvarna or Beta but they are only a little over half the price to buy. I would say these are good bikes for beginner to intermediate riders but I would love to hear the opinions out there as this is only mine. I’ve been able to lift the front over small logs in first and second gear. I’ve seen other RUclipsrs pulling wheelies too like Nolan Rides but I don’t have that skill set yet. Thanks for watching!
Great video sir cheers !! Can someone explain what slipper clutch on the Honda does? Thank you in advance
Thank you! A slipper clutch has an integrated freewheel mechanism that decreases engine breaking when you decelerate. I have it on my KTM 790 and its smoother than traditional clutches. For my dual sport I actually like engine breaking when I'm headed into off road sharp corners so it depends what you want. Thanks for watching, cheers!
I’m about to do the same thing I have a T7 but want the smaller but capable KLX I was just wondering is the trip meter interrupted when you are low on gas I heard you can’t see the miles traveled due to the low gas light
I don’t believe so. I recall being able to track my miles after the low gas light and warning come on. I think what you read might be referring to the low gas warning words that appears on the dash along with the low gas warning light which is separate from the display. I recall being able to clear the low gas warning in the display by clicking on the mode button which brings back the odometer, trip 1 and trip 2 miles. I tested mileage before and after low gas indicator came on so I do remember being able to track miles after it went off. I’m very glad and feel lucky to have both bikes which are completely different machines with different purposes. Cheers
Unfortunately I live in Canada and as everything Canadian we have no selection, 'you get what we give you', and that's pretty much across the board.
Sorry to hear that. Off-road motorcycle sales has been interesting in the US over the past two years. Hit or miss with in store stock. I had to put $ down on my KLX and wait it out. And buying a used bike is just as challenging where prices have seemed to climb due to low new stock inventory. Thanks for watching! Cheers
I’m juggling between the CRF300 and the KLX300. The KLX300 is my top choice, but the Honda felt pretty roomy in the seat. That said, you can’t beat the suspension on the klx. I also have a Kawi voyager for long road trips. I’d actually like to make the klx a mini adv tbh
If you plan on making the KLX a mini ADV then adjustable suspension will come in handy when you add camping weight to the bike. I just added TUSK luggage racks to mine (easy to remove for dual sporting) where I can add luggage options for overnight camping but will need to tighten up the rear suspension to do so. I’ve already adjusted the rear suspension twice and have it just right with no bottoming out even on heavily rutted roads and single track. Good luck and thanks for watching!
@@theEHWAZ thanks for the input. I’m pretty much set on the klx at this point.
Took my klz 300 off-road this morning suspension is better than I thought makes for smooth handling in rough terrain while driving hard
Does the Kawasaki KLX 300 shift as smooth as the Honda
I doubt it because the Honda has a slipper clutch which tends to be very smooth. My KTM 790 ADV R has a slipper clutch and it's super smooth. WIth that said, the Kawasaki shifts just fine. It's a little worse during the break in period though.
Estoy indeciso, quisiera comprar las dos.
Las dos motocicletas son muy bueno pero tienen sus diferencias. La mejor manera a decidir es probar los dos si tienes la oportunidades. Otras maneras es a hablar con personas que tienen las motocicletas y los mecanicos donde vende las motociletas. ¡Buena suerte y gracias por su comentos!
Who Makes a larger tank for these, I lost mine in a wildfire, ready to get another, but for LONG distance adventure riding, I need a bigger tank..and not just.7 gallons,,
Both of these bikes are dual sport and have small tanks with a ~2 gallon capacity. The CRF 300 Rally has a 3.4 gallon tank and set up for longer distance light ADV bike type riding. I have a 1 gallon Giant Loop gas bag to give me more mileage. There are after market larger fuel tanks you can purchase for the KLX and Honda, including a rear gas tank for the CRF 300 Rally that adds fuel capacity. I get 7 gallons you will need a true Adventure bike, that's a lot of fuel and a lot of weight. Thanks for watching!
Amazing love your videos.. and yes, I was hoping for camel or safari, etc.. but still researching,..thanks for the reply...I might head to south of the USA, south America etc.. for My first trip instead on Australia lol
That is why I am considering the Kawasaki Versys 300x over both these bikes. 4.5 gallon tank.
Similar situation here. I have the 2022 KLX 300, Camo. About 50 miles on the bike so far. I’ve added: T Rex skid plate, 13 tooth front sprocket, and Seat Concepts seat.
Nice! I love the camo and black combo. I get a lot of compliments on the bike. How do you like that 13 tooth sprocket? I'll be posting a video on some tricks and watch-outs for changing out handlebars that I learned this weekend and haven't seen posted on other videos. I put on ProTaper EVO Windham MX/RM Mid Bend bars and they are lighter than stock. I put them side by side, keep a lookout for the post in a few weeks. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@theEHWAZ Regarding the 13 tooth front sprocket, that definitely pushes torque lower in the power band. You get more of a “crawl without stall” 1st gear experience, but you also shave off some top end. About 63 MPH, I start searching for that imaginary 7th gear. I’m willing to accept the trade off because I bought the motorcycle for off-road riding.
I look forward to your handlebar related video. I plan to add hand guards soon, but I’m concerned now about adding them to the stock handle bars. It seems that many owners of the KLX 300 do upgrade the handle bars.
Thanks for the update. Regarding the hand guards, that was one of the reasons why I changed my bars but I also wanted to upgrade to 1 1/8” aluminum. I was able to install an extra pair of Tusk D-Flex Pro hand guards that I had on my KTM and they fit pretty well with minor mods. I now need to paint them black because they are KTM orange. Enjoy the KLX!
I chose the CRF300L Rally and it was not an easy decision.
I mentioned it in the video but the CRF300L Rally is a brilliant choice for those looking for a dual sport that can also be used as an Adventure motorcycle for longer distance rides, camping etc. if I didn’t have my KTM 790 ADV R, I would have likely purchased the 300L Rally as my all around bike. You will be happy with it I’m sure, cheers!
@@theEHWAZ Exactly! I'm in my late 60's and I was starting to feel the weight of my Africa Twin. So I came to the conclusion that I needed to downsize and go lighter. It was torture trying to decide between the KLX and the Rally. In the end the larger gas tank and all the other comforts influenced my decision. However, had I been younger, lighter, etc. and still had the AT or 790 I would have gone for the KLX.
Nice one. If you fix the crf suspension I wonder which would win
That's a good question. If the CRF suspension matched the KLX and was also adjustable for front and rear shocks, then I probably would have leaned towards the Honda with the ABS option. The suspension adjustability allows tailoring the ride to match surface/terrain and weight of rider + gear, which is an important factor for the type of off-road riding I am doing. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
I bought a KLX250S when they first came out and was disappointed in it. It was carbureted, top heavy, underpowered. This time I'm going with Honda. It seems to have a lower center of gravity than the KLX and I know their engines are bulletproof. It's a brand new, modern design vs just a bored engine. Going to upgrade the shocks anyway so don't care as much about how the stock shocks compare.
The KLX 300 is fuel injected and the engine is rock solid as well. The suspension and adjustability has been a game changer in my case. I've adjusted it 3 times now based on riding conditions and I'm impressed. I had a budget in mind and didn't want to buy a new bike and then make expensive changes on it like suspension so it all depends on budget and preference. Enjoy the Honda, it's a great bike. Cheers
I'm seeing plenty of used Hondas for sale here in AZ and zero KLX. That might tell you something. 😉
Objectively speaking, the adjustable suspension has made a big difference for me so far. I’ve adjusted it on 3 occasions now as the bike breaks in and as I get accustomed to it. I can feel a noticeable difference in how adjusting the suspension improves handling when I push the bike harder. I’m very happy with my KLX thus far. Cheers and thanks for watching!
Question…what is your weight and inseam? I’m wondering if my short legs (30”) and hefty frame (180lbs) will fit the bike. Thanks. Nice video.
I’m very similar to you. 30 - 31” inseam and 175. When I sit on the bike and it sags my feet are planted firmly on the ground. On one of my last rides I tightened up the rear spring suspension to a 3.5” sag and my feet are still well planed with my riding boots. The KLX is a confidence inspiring bike when you sit on it for those with a 30” inseam in my opinion with the advantage of being able to adjust suspension to get it just right for rider + gear. My KTM 790 is a different story where my heels are off the ground. Need to adjust for more sag on that one. Thanks for watching!
Here is the marketing difference between the two; Honda designs the 300L for torque in the Asian markets, lower seat, accessible to shorter riders in Asia and America. Kawasaki designed a bike for experienced riders who want the suspension and clearance. It's obvious the difference has to do with off road confidence. I have the 300L and love the torque. It really is a dirt bike with blinkers.
Thanks for the info and for watching. Ride safe and have fun!
You must have mixed up the specs, the Honda has more ground clearance, shorter seat height and more suspension travel.
If you don't mind me asking what's your height and weight? I have a 2015 yamaha wr250r, but the lower seat height of the other 2 and more low end torque are enticing. Yamaha's got better suspension though.
Sure, I’m 5’10” and 175lbs. When I sit on the bike with gear on, including my ADV boots, and with sag my feet are planted flat on the ground. I might stiffen up the rear suspension a little but need to get more off-road time experience on it to figure it out. If you wait long enough Yamaha might come out with a 300 as well, rumors are out there. Thanks for watching!
Sure, I’m 5’10” and 175lbs. When I sit on the bike with gear on, including my ADV boots, and with sag my feet are planted flat on the ground. I might stiffen up the rear suspension a little but need to get more off-road time experience on it to figure it out. If you wait long enough Yamaha might come out with a 300 as well, rumors are out there. Thanks for watching!
Hate Honda red. Love Kawasaki camo. My use would be off road oriented ADV and the 3.8 gallon fuel tank on the CRF300 Rally is the deciding factor. I can see a 100 mile range on a dirt bike, but dual sport and ADV bikes should have a 300+ mile range. ABS is a big plus as well. Honda should have upgraded the suspension on the Rally for loaded ADV use. At the very least, stiffer variable rate springs with more preload would prevent the squat from using half the suspension travel with a heavy 'Murican rider and 50 pounds of camping gear.
If you are looking for a more ADV oriented bike I agree. The Honda CRF Rally with the ABS is the way to go. To your point, limitation would be the soft suspension considering the extra weight with additional gas and accessories (windshield, skid plate etc.). I have a 1 gallon Giant Loop gas bag for my KLX but I am only using my KLX as a dual sport bike for shorter distance rides. If Honda updates the suspension to your point this bike would be that much better. Thanks for watching!
Dude, what's the purpose of the background music? To make it hard to listen to your narration?
Thanks for the feedback, one of my challenges as I improve my video and audio editing skills is working with the audio volume when narrating. In the case of this video the balance was off at times. If you check out my newer videos you will see a much better balance. It's a work in progress but I enjoy playing music in the background as part of my video style.
CRF300 , In Thailand very easy and cheap spar part.
Great to see a comment from Thailand, cheers! Hondas seem to be more readily available internationally and cheap spare parts is an import factor for longevity. Thanks for watching!
I would choose the Kawasaki, love the camo color and Kawas aren't that common as Hondas.
I love the Camo and black on the Kawa. I get lots of compliments on it too. Its tough looking. Thanks for watching!
Kawasaki definitely 👍
I think so too, thanks for watching!
Definitely the kaw!
It’s truly a fun bike to ride off-road and on the tarmac. Thanks for watching!
Kawasaki KLX 👍
Thanks for watching!
Susuki probably. Drz400. Damn auto correct 👌🏻
I considered the DRZ 400 but it’s more expensive $1,200 more than the KLX 300 Camo and $1,750 more than the base CRF 300. For that much more money I would have bought it if it had fuel injection, 6 gears and was lighter, which the KLX and CRF offers. My opinion and reasoning but the DRZ is a legendary bike, I just hope it gets the modern upgrades it needs without a significant spike in cost. Thanks for watching!
@@theEHWAZ I definitely understand what you mean. I am just getting my first drz 400 Tuesday so I'm looking forward to it. Super Moto edition. Fishers Indiana at the Flatout motorsports. I will be on a learning curve this summer and spring. 👍🏻👌🏻 Be safe out there riding.
which did u buy?. why?
Answers to your questions are in the video 😉
@@theEHWAZ OHHHH NOOOOOO BUT ull die without ABS o the horrorrrr the horrorrrr.
Honda 300l has a helmet lock too.
That’s great.
Both bikes have crappy suspension; however Kawi made their's adjustable crap. So, it gets a superficial point to the layman. In both cases, the suspension has to be upgrades. Thus, there's no real advantage to Kawi for the suspension. Honda's torque, one finger pull slipper clutch, and looks for the win.
Objectively speaking, the KAWA suspension is better than expected and I've been able to adjust the suspension numerous times to get it just right for my weight and when adding luggage. I've ridden it for almost two years now so this is objective experience speaking. Check out other reviews and you'll generally see the same conclusion. Also, if you are buying one of these bikes then you likely have a budget in mind and buying better suspension does not make sense, at least to me. That's why I went with the Kawa and I'm glad I did.
Hah as your skills develop you, like most, will realize that ABS on bikes is a double edged sword that that helps beginners but annoys the experienced. The KLX is on my to do list.
In the meantime I buzz around on a Wall Mart camo RT 200 cc turd mini bike that has virtually zero suspension and a terrible CVT...hilariosly fun and a constant teacher of line choice and smooth throttle and brake techniques. Plus when you crash, you are low to the ground and generally so slow that it doesn't hurt that bad.
Oh yeah, and I have felt both sides of that ABS sword. On-road saved my tail. Off-road, almost crashed into a tree. Glad my KLX does not have it as I ride it off-road 90% of the time. I turn ABS off when off-road on my KTM.
I also looked up the Wallmart camo RT 200cc and now I want one! Looks like a blast to ride. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
@@theEHWAZ The fun/danger ratio makes it a no brainer! Put a decent cvt on it you're off to the races!
I have a 23 klx 300……why no fuel gauge !!!!!!!!
Agree, it's annoying but it's not has been as bad as I thought it would be. I know how much gas mileage I have left once the low fuel light indicator comes on.
The cow is the right choice 👌
Glad I picked it, it was the right choice for me. I realize it the more I ride it. Thanks for watching.
I like Kawasaki suspension compare to Honda in this 2 dual sportbike.
Agree, the better and adjustable suspension of the KLX is a major advantage in my perspective. Two recent multi-day off-road long rides confirmed it as I adjusted the suspension to match my weight + gear + load I was carrying enabling me to ride more aggressively. Thank you for watching!
Both of these bikes are the absolute shit I'm extremely impressed with what Kawasaki has done I'm a big time Honda Fanboy & would totally be happy with either 1, I actually just purchased the Africa twin adventure sport because my buddy & I were supposed to travel & the way the 🌎 works doesn't look like that's going to happen so I might be trading this off & getting a couple dual sports 1 for me & 1 for whoever's going to ride with me no fun going by yourself 🤷🏻
Totally agree, much more fun riding with others. You can explore more and push the boundaries further knowing you have someone else backing you up. Thanks for watching!
A Woman as done it, like several men, traveling around the world. she goes by itchy boots, check her out!!
Great video. Thx for the info.
Thanks for the comment and for watching!
nice
Thanks!
Both of the motobikes have no such parameters as old and good Yamaha WR 250 R, 134kg/31,7 HP.
I haven't tried a WR 250 R but have heard from owners of the bike that they love it. Would be good to see a 300 version.
Only crf300l in Europe...
so bit easy Choice.
No crf450l either...
I just learned about that from a comment from the UK on my Fall Foliage video. Do you know why the KLX is not available in Europe? You can’t go wrong with either bike so at least you have one option. Also curious why no 450i, Euro emissions? Thanks for watching! Cheers from overseas.
@@theEHWAZ Emission norms. I think at least.
@@theEHWAZ ur gov ran uall over long time ago. paupers n peasants ull take what ur given an like it. grow some _____, try an get it back GL
i walk away from klx 300 2023 in show room near me becouse it dont have abs .
Depends on what type of riding you want to do. If off-road then no ABS is better. I prefer ABS if given a choice though as long as you can turn it off while riding off road. Thanks for watching
Thanks but no thanks. I smoke these 300's with both my XR250R & even well riding my 1994 XR250L every time I go to Cow Mountain OHVA & Middle Creek recreation area near my home.
Thanks for the comment. Is it the bike, the rider, or both? I see great riders make the most out of their bikes and vice versa. I get passed a lot but it's more about the rider than the bike in my case because I'm slow ;). Cheers!
Fuel injection is big
Agree! And both bikes have it. Easy starts and less worries with elevation.
KLX all day
I’ve adjusted the suspension numerous times now for different riding situations, it’s big advantage for sure. happy in made the choice.
Simple choice, I refuse to buy a $7k motorcycle sprung for a 12 year old. That's RIDICULOUS. I wanna know when and how it became acceptable to put out half effort products that require the consumer to finish the job??? Idiots are buying them and swapping though so... there's why it's a thing.🤷
Honda makes great bikes and there are riders loving their 300L and others complaining about the suspension. It comes down to the type of riding you plan to do with the bike. If one plans on riding forest roads or easier trails then I’m sure it’s perfect. But when roads or single tracks get rutted, rocky and bumpy or if you are a larger and heavier rider, the stock suspension will not be fun. I’ve spoken to numerous riders and seen the videos that attest to it. I’ve adjusted my KLX suspension twice now and it’s good to know I can adjust based on off-road conditions and when adding weight. Thanks for watching!
Unless you're a tiny Japanese man or a 10 year old boy, neither bike is rideable without fixing the suspension.
I’m 5’10” and around 180 lbs and the KLX 300 suspension post several adjustments works fine on intermediate dual sport and single track trails. Since the last adjustment I have not bottomed out and it handled single track just fine. Will it handle hard enduro, nope but that’s not the type of riding this bike is designed for. The suspension is actually better than I anticipated it would be for the price point. Thanks for watching.
@@theEHWAZ "I’m 5’10” and around 180 lbs" -- no need to rub it in :)
Kawasaki is better more than Honda 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Kawasaki makes a great bike and so does Honda. I'm glad I bought the KLX 300 as my first Kawasaki.
Honda fo sho, klx looks lile chinese knockoff of some brand.
In my opinion, the KLX Frag Camo is a great-looking bike and is much more appealing than the Honda CRF,. To each, its own, and that's why it's great to have choices. I also get a lot of compliments on my KLX 300. Thanks for watching.