Restoring Western Flyer: Chapter Two. Finding wood to restore a boat isn't easy.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Western Flyer was completely built from old growth timber harvested near Puget Sound but the lack of similar trees now presents big challenges to restoring this historic vessel that carried the author John Steinbeck and biologist Ed Ricketts to Mexico's Sea of Cortez on an epic scientific voyage.
I'm sorry to read so many negative comments regarding the selection and origin of lumber required to rebuild Western Flyer which contradicts what the boatbuilder has done a good job of explaining. Everybody's an expert from afar. I'm no expert on such matters, but from what I see, Mr. Chase and his team have spent considerable time forming a sensible plan considering the choices available for longevity.
I am also here thanks to the referral from Leo Sampson Goolden and his SV Tally Ho restoration project in Sequim. This project is outstanding on many levels as is the Tally Ho project and I look forward to many years of education and enjoyment from your efforts.
Asinine comment of the week^^^^
@rats arsed You sound jelly bro...
You have another subscriber. I'd never heard of Steinbeck's Sea of Cortez or Western Flyer but I'm hooked and I have another book on my to read list.
What a shame that in the whole of the PNW that two or three old DF's couldn't be found.
Great video, explaining the history of timber harvesting and the nature of timber growth was just perfect.
RUclips is an amazing source of so much good, where else can you find such gems as this channel or Tally No, SV Seeker, Acorn to Arabella, Hunk of Junk, Lady Africa, Sail Cargo, Sail Life, Salt and Tar, Brupeg and many, many more.
Such exciting times ahead as all these projects complete and start sailing.
The biggest problem is finding time to keep up-to-date
Lovely explanation about how you harvest your wood 👍🏻🇬🇧
Coming fron Tally Ho video. Keep going this video. Really appreciate the art and histroy behind.
I LOVE watching Leo & the crew over there!
Great explanation Chris. Thanks.
This latest presentation was your best one yet. Well done.
I had read in some old books that they used to use Alaskan yellow cedar in wooden boats up in the PNW.
Still would have rather seen local us wood even if you had to use live oak from the south which is a great wood boat Lumber but the Sapela is a good choice for sure nice job you are doing there on that beautiful boat
Michigan was also thickly covered in old growth pine before the start of the 20th century. Most of it was cut before 1920, much to rebuild Chicago after the Great Fire of 1871. There are a few old growth pines in MI that are also protected. While the forest started to regrow through the middle 1900, some has already been harvested a second time. I doubt that we will ever see trees reaching 150-200 year maturity let alone 400-600 years, except for the few still standing.
I would like to comment that FSC certified wood does not make it a responcible source of wood by all means. The certification is about a volume of wood in an area of forrest, not about age, so the overall value of the forest does decrease. Don't get me wrong, i love the show and the preservation, i just felt that needed to be added.
Our mill, McClanahan Lumber, has begged shipbuilders to give us wish lists for their BVG for DF and WRC. We finally got tired of waiting and now we just serve the industrial clear market. 🤷♂️
A sawmill in Germany? Cool! With best regards from "Germany" Deutschland!!
I used sapele along side doug fir on a porch in 1992. I don't think it will last as long as you think it will.
Here from Monterey, California
Sapele trees, I wonder if it could grow here in the Pacific Northwest, or does it need warmer dryer temperatures than we can offer here?
Why Not Southern Live Oak?
Exactly what I was wondering I could have attained them 15,000 BF of good very very nice growth live oak from right here in the south and had it delivered I think it would have been a much better choice then that sapela but the wood is still good but would have rather seen American grown and harvested live oak used
Did you consider buying Douglas Fir from Vancouver Island?
too bad a very vary percentage of BC lumber is not sustainable,clear cutting is still a massive problem.
I'd think that makes a lot more sense but probably raises the hackles of the nimby environmentalists.
At least it doesn't put the harm halfway 'round the world.
And of course the carbon cost of shipping it out of the African jungle, to Germany for processing, and on to the PNW for somebody's vanity project.
When this boat was built the logs literally floated to the mill and planks & timber were barged locally to the boatyard.
There wasn't much romantic about it back then.
Old growth forests were all cut down to build boats and now has all-but vanished. So the solution is to 'source' timber from the 3rd world where it's the 1880s all over again - just cut it all it's all gone. Of course, because they care, they'll only buy 'certified' lumber (which is just a piece of paper that costs $10 for 'certification'). The willful cynicism is lovely.
dit had een hele mooie video kunnen worden , als jullie meer had laten zien en niet ze veel gesproken jammer jammer daarom duim naar beneden
Why do you need to send the logs to Germany to get milled? You can't find that capability here? What is so special that the logs need to go to Germany?
There aren't many mills left in the US that can handle logs as large as they needed cut. The vast majority of lumber mills in the US can't saw anything over 48 inches. There are still a few older mills around that can handle logs larger than that, but not many.
"In a weird way, the Western Flyer has become a victim of environmental change"
With all due respect, this statement is completely backwards-the environment is the victim in this story. The timber you're seeking was decimated by the mass deforestation you spoke of earlier in the video. The waters that used to produce bountiful fish off the coast of Washington were devastated by decades of over-fishing.
Brendan Loudermilk True, the forests were cut with little thought of future needs and care for the land, and the fish were destroyed by mostly European fishing trawler fleets. Thankfully much of this has been recognized and the fish and forests are going to grow back, but we must be good stewards of the land and sea. But the comment was still true in that they cannot buy the same lumber that was once plentiful. This video is a good reminder that we must take care of the land and sea, and we have the freedom to do so. Millions of acres of national forests have been set aside nearly 120 years ago by Theodor Roosevelt, so we should be mostly thankful for that.
@@michaelc.3812 thank you for the civil reply. I must admit, I was pretty peeved when I wrote this comment and have considered deleting it on more than one occasion. I truly hope we can continue to rehabilitate and preserve this beautiful planet we were given.
With all due respect you clearly know nothing of the ocean and what is holds in fish stocks in this day and age. To be fair that’s probably in most part from faulty Info given to you by others that don’t know. I’m a commercial fisherman. I participate in several fisheries on the west coast of Washington and Oregon. My family have been involved in the fisheries for over 50 years. We are seeing better stocks now than when my father started fishing when he was young. The sardine fishery that the western flyer participated in for example is closed due to faulty science more than anything. The rules state that there needs to be at least 150000 tons of sardines on the coast to open the fishery. They do one survey a year and if the fish are not found during that survey it is assumed they are not there. Problem is these fish have tails they come and go all the time. As of rite now I’m squid fishing because sardines is closed. As I’m out looking for squid I see well over 150000ton of sardines on a pretty regular basis but It doesn’t matter because there not seen during the survey. This sort of faulty science happens allot. But the people like me that spend our lives on the ocean see different.
Seems like if this guy showed some work being done instead the history of wood in the Northwest it'd be interesting I'm sorry that all these videos about rebuilding a boat and where the wood came from and where it's coming from yeah it's interesting but you seen one you seen every one of them what makes Leo's tally ho project interesting is he doesn't dwell on where the wood coming from when to The LumberYard for Purple Heart he got it without telling about growth rings and where it came from in all the rest of the BS that some of these videos talk about when he went down south to get the Live Oak he went down and got it showed how they cut it as the old saying goes more work Less Talk
you sir are an idiot
this is too easy..if you don't like the manner of their delivery..don't watch. super simple.
You typed all that? lol
The history of the materials that were used in the original build and the efforts to find suitable replacement materials are of great interest to many of us. This video was not only enjoyable it was informative. I'm sure there will be many build videos to keep your interest.
as the old saying goes, more punctuation; less run-on sentences... jesus..
Fuckin waste of 15,000 bf of fir. The FLEET of small cruising boats that could have been built.For a tourist attraction. Without the name "Steinbeck" attached , Western Flyer would be long gone.