I personally love miniatures and filming with real film, not with video cameras, but CGI would have pulled this off just fine, if not better. It has become fashion to poo poo on CGI work these days just for effect (no pun).
@@ghosttownsentinel5288 The Movie Rabbit Hole has made a fantastic four part series about this trend and how Hollywood lies about not using CGI to pander to the "CGI=bad" crowd.
Sorry to break it to you but that scene you saw in this film were mostly CGI. That miniature weren't actually used in the film but rather used as a references, and VFX artists replaced the buildings in CG, added details, lightings and effects in compositing process. Rest of LA environment in this film other than this scene were 100% CGI from start from finish without any practical miniature references at all.
@@user-vc5rp7nf8f The use of CGI was very measured - a lot of the dinosaur effects are animatronic especially when there's close up visuals needed. You'll notice a lot of the CGI was made to look "hazy" or cast in shadows / night time to reduce the uncanny valley - plus we're seeing things nobody has seen so the impact of the "falseness" of CGI was reduced. Spielberg knew what he was doing.
I'm glad actual models are still being used. CGI is great when done properly but many CGI companies take shortcuts or bid low for projects and the creative work suffers. I love making stuff by hand. I love traditional art as well as 3D modeling. Also loved making swords and doing word carvings. I still draw and scratch build. It's been a long time since I touched Maya, Zbrush 3D max. My health got bad. Had a heart attack and then emergency open heart surgery followed by months of being unconscious. Having to relearn how to use things and how things work. Just struggling to stay alive is a full time job. I don't see replies but thank you for sharing. I love seeing others love the things I do. Enjoy your work. To me I was getting paid to do what I would have done for free. Not many can enjoy work and make a living at it both.
It's not just the technical work, the modeling, that's impressive. It's impressive how this work is also consistent with the idea of a futuristic dystopian, and how this follows the idea of Blade Runner. It's simply perfect. I think that those who do this job are lucky. They are not lucky to work there, because it is about skills not luck. They are lucky to have understood in time that they wanted to do that job. It is a fantastic job.
They did great work on 2049, no doubt. But why did 1982 Blade Runner's cityscapes look so much better and tangible? I think it's because the 1982 team knew they could not "enhance it in post" with CGI, so they had to triple their efforts to make it all look great in camera. For my money, the 1982 FX outshine the 2049 FXs by a wide margin. Just imho.
Yet it made no difference becasue 99% of the audience just sees it as normal CG. Complete waste of time and materials. I don't think miniatures has place in movie making anymore unless you don't have the skill or budget for VFX.
@@MeltedBrain777 Consider that modern cameras can see far more detail and have very different color science, which is why raw miniatures with some nice lighting do not look good in camera anymore. Old movies that do, are becasue of the technology of the time, and lack of noticable details. It's why only blurry videos and pictures of flying things are considering "UFOs", while a clear picture would make it easy to identify the object in question.
Bravo team! BR2049 is destined to be a classic and is one of the finest sequels of all time, in no small part to the level of detailed world building. Thank you!
The side of the building that has the rusty water channel coming down with glistening wetness….THAT IS AN AMAZING PIECE. It literally looks like something you could move into.
i'd love to see these in a museum. the "lampshade" aspect is incredible. i've loved Weta since LOTR BTS in 2001; it's fantastic seeing a new generation (2 generations?) carrying on & expanding that magic.
I think this is the first time I've seen a video like this where the pros are using Rhino. My proficiency in that software via architecture school finally feels validated!
Sometimes, there’s no school like old school. The fact is that practical effects like model miniatures still have their uses, and with advancements in film technology, it’s actually quite easier build and film, and can look better than how they were before too.
I love how they got a Weta T-shirt straight out of the packet and slapped it on Jake just before the filming. That's the sort of detail you only get with Weta.
It’s interesting to see them design on computer, use those models for previs and manufacturing, then they go full hands-on detailing and weathering, then these shots go right back into the computers with VFX overlays. It’s not practical vs. computer, it’s both from start to finish.
This is so fun to watch. Is there a long-form version of this anywhere? I would love to just zone out to watching them build and decorate these over time.
Your little part went a long way because when I reconsider Blade Runner 2049 in my head I think of this exact shot. It more or less is the opening scene in my memory to the film.
It fooled me in cinema. I really thought the buildings were really high quality virtual assets. I didn't even think they were miniatures like in the original movie.
Amazing craftmanship and art! I do hope that they were able to save some of the more important buildings. Perhaps donated to Sci-Fi museums around the world?
Love this movie. Just watched it again last night. It's great to see miniatures still being used in film. I'm not against CGI, I just love to see old techniques still being used. Unfortunately, I think it's a dying industry.
Dear Santa, next Christmas could you please reach out to Denis Villeneuve & Roger Deakins to ask for an open matte 4K UHD disc release of Blade Runner 2049? We need to see more of this magic. Thematically, it also makes our protagonists crucial but ever so tiny cogs in a massive post-earthbound existence. I promise I'll be nice this year.
The thing that kinda sucks about when they use miniatures these days is that it’s hard to tell they’re miniatures. Being able to tell something was tiny while it still created a sense of awe was always part of the fun.
In my opinion it doesn't matter if it's made with CGI or miniatures. As long as it's worked with love. Just like the question what is better an oil painting or a watercolor painting. I always admire the creativity of people.
Only thing I would have done different on the facade pieces is to put a “window cutout” filler on the back with some semi opaque material so that the buildings behind them got spill over light.
So creative that window trick and the printed out rooms being just flat pictures is just GENIUS, nothing is better than actual REAL, PRACTICAL FX, they will ALWAYS trump anything that is 100% CGI cuz it's REAL, and the cleanup and blend of practical and CGI in this movie is SEAMLESS and GORGEOUS!!!!...
I think the miniatures is what gave it the same vibe as the original. I don't see how CGI could've pulled that off. Great job 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I personally love miniatures and filming with real film, not with video cameras, but CGI would have pulled this off just fine, if not better. It has become fashion to poo poo on CGI work these days just for effect (no pun).
@ghosttownsentinel5288 I like CGI too. Theres just certain old movies I used to watch on vhs on that old gritty film lol
@@ghosttownsentinel5288 The Movie Rabbit Hole has made a fantastic four part series about this trend and how Hollywood lies about not using CGI to pander to the "CGI=bad" crowd.
Sorry to break it to you but that scene you saw in this film were mostly CGI. That miniature weren't actually used in the film but rather used as a references, and VFX artists replaced the buildings in CG, added details, lightings and effects in compositing process. Rest of LA environment in this film other than this scene were 100% CGI from start from finish without any practical miniature references at all.
You wouldn't want to slip or stumble while working on those sets, Game Over Man.
😬
Nothing beats practical. It stands the test of time.
yeah. it's why jurassic park still looks so good
Thats why marvel movies look so amazing
@@GoergeSkiller ...They don't, but anyways...
@@user-vc5rp7nf8f The use of CGI was very measured - a lot of the dinosaur effects are animatronic especially when there's close up visuals needed. You'll notice a lot of the CGI was made to look "hazy" or cast in shadows / night time to reduce the uncanny valley - plus we're seeing things nobody has seen so the impact of the "falseness" of CGI was reduced. Spielberg knew what he was doing.
@@user-vc5rp7nf8f Oh, here we go again, you guys.
I'm glad actual models are still being used. CGI is great when done properly but many CGI companies take shortcuts or bid low for projects and the creative work suffers.
I love making stuff by hand. I love traditional art as well as 3D modeling. Also loved making swords and doing word carvings. I still draw and scratch build. It's been a long time since I touched Maya, Zbrush 3D max. My health got bad. Had a heart attack and then emergency open heart surgery followed by months of being unconscious. Having to relearn how to use things and how things work. Just struggling to stay alive is a full time job.
I don't see replies but thank you for sharing. I love seeing others love the things I do. Enjoy your work. To me I was getting paid to do what I would have done for free. Not many can enjoy work and make a living at it both.
speedy recovery.I draw with ink everyday as well as make stuff on my computer. For mind fun I write backwards on birthday cards.
I'm so happy a few filmmakers still give the budget, effort, and time to this type of craftsmanship.
It's not just the technical work, the modeling, that's impressive. It's impressive how this work is also consistent with the idea of a futuristic dystopian, and how this follows the idea of Blade Runner.
It's simply perfect.
I think that those who do this job are lucky. They are not lucky to work there, because it is about skills not luck. They are lucky to have understood in time that they wanted to do that job. It is a fantastic job.
They did great work on 2049, no doubt. But why did 1982 Blade Runner's cityscapes look so much better and tangible? I think it's because the 1982 team knew they could not "enhance it in post" with CGI, so they had to triple their efforts to make it all look great in camera. For my money, the 1982 FX outshine the 2049 FXs by a wide margin. Just imho.
Yet it made no difference becasue 99% of the audience just sees it as normal CG. Complete waste of time and materials. I don't think miniatures has place in movie making anymore unless you don't have the skill or budget for VFX.
@@MeltedBrain777 Consider that modern cameras can see far more detail and have very different color science, which is why raw miniatures with some nice lighting do not look good in camera anymore. Old movies that do, are becasue of the technology of the time, and lack of noticable details.
It's why only blurry videos and pictures of flying things are considering "UFOs", while a clear picture would make it easy to identify the object in question.
This is actually PHENOMENAL, genuinely amazing
They knocked it out of the park and the ball is still going 8 years later.
The blend of vfx and miniature work is mind blowing! Almost impossible to spot it’s implemented so perfectly
2049 is a great sequel that really captured and expanded the world of Bladerunner.
Weta always does an impressive job bringing the worlds to life.
Bravo team! BR2049 is destined to be a classic and is one of the finest sequels of all time, in no small part to the level of detailed world building. Thank you!
Fantastic work. There was a lot to live up to with this sequel and it did that and more.
The side of the building that has the rusty water channel coming down with glistening wetness….THAT IS AN AMAZING PIECE. It literally looks like something you could move into.
Right now, Villeneuve is the safest pair of hands we have. When he teams up with Weta it was always going to be something very special indeed.
Honestly I thought most of the buildings were really great cgi. No wonder things looked so well and lived in.
You are talking shite
"once people learned there were miniatures, they went oh my God of course!" ... Exactly what I did when I saw this! AMAZING WORK!!! !!!
Stunning... I work in the creative industry, so no how cool it is to see your work being seen and enjoyed by other people.
The outdoor scenes in this entire movie were marvelous bravo to the whole Weta team !
Love miniatures, love building model kits. Fantastic work!
i'd love to see these in a museum. the "lampshade" aspect is incredible.
i've loved Weta since LOTR BTS in 2001; it's fantastic seeing a new generation (2 generations?) carrying on & expanding that magic.
They're on display at ACMI in Melbourne until 27 April:
www.acmi.net.au/whats-on/future-fictions/
I don't know if it will happen, but I REALLY hope Villeneuve does 'Rendezvous With Rama'. The visuals in that story would be amazing.
God I love you Weta, you’re the reason I do 40k and miniature stuff
Still way better than foggy mushy looking CGI. Fabulous!
I love everything about this. Weta is legendary.
Old school beauty ! Love it !
Such a great looking film. Well done all 🫡
I think this is the first time I've seen a video like this where the pros are using Rhino. My proficiency in that software via architecture school finally feels validated!
Epic, I hope to visit the Weta Workshop someday....
Oh that's why it all looked so good!
Sometimes, there’s no school like old school. The fact is that practical effects like model miniatures still have their uses, and with advancements in film technology, it’s actually quite easier build and film, and can look better than how they were before too.
Another fantastic example of this is the crab from Skeleton Crew. It's stop motion and looks incredible
I love this movie and years later, I still have the Wallace tone as my ringtone, but I love it because of people behind the scenes, like Weta.
speechless. just incredible work
This is incredibly cool
The work is fantastic and it how movies should look if they want realistic buildings. Even the star wars prequels used fantastic miniatures.
I love how they got a Weta T-shirt straight out of the packet and slapped it on Jake just before the filming. That's the sort of detail you only get with Weta.
ok
🤷♀️
He might of had a tshirt on that could mess with copyright.
really hope all practical effect stuff like minis and maybe stuff like puppets keep on existing in the future alongside cg
Love the story...love the performances...love the eye-candy!
amazing. watching that movie again on the projector tonight.
I absolutely love every aspect of this and am glad that they still build miniatures since I believe in the magic!
I"ll be honest... I had no idea! I thought for the longest time that everything in that Sequence was CG. That is amazing !
Gorgeous work here. Such fun.
it's so cool that analogue seems to be better in some cases. i hope it'll never change!
Was für eine Schöne Arbeit - ^^
Damn I didn't even realize these were miniatures... Time to rewatch again.
It’s interesting to see them design on computer, use those models for previs and manufacturing, then they go full hands-on detailing and weathering, then these shots go right back into the computers with VFX overlays. It’s not practical vs. computer, it’s both from start to finish.
Didn't know these were miniatures, amazing work, too bad the thumbnail and subscribe button are ruining the final shot 4:24
Fixed 🛠
Very Cool ! 😊💜
This is so fun to watch. Is there a long-form version of this anywhere? I would love to just zone out to watching them build and decorate these over time.
What an incredible journey for these amazing creators
Gorgeous work!!!!
Excellent doc. Thanks a lot. Great work 🫡
what a great job to have.
hell yeah, love miniatures
AMAZING!!! WOW!!!
Great work! I shall watch the movie agin.
Amazing stuff!
Wow. Amazing job!
One of my favourite movies, I actually think it's better than the first film.
Talented people!
i love this physical models. That´s the way.
Your little part went a long way because when I reconsider Blade Runner 2049 in my head I think of this exact shot. It more or less is the opening scene in my memory to the film.
It fooled me in cinema. I really thought the buildings were really high quality virtual assets. I didn't even think they were miniatures like in the original movie.
brilliant work.
Amazing
Very good
Looks great😀
So cool!
this movie is the prettiest movies ive ever seen.
Amazing craftmanship and art! I do hope that they were able to save some of the more important buildings. Perhaps donated to Sci-Fi museums around the world?
This is awesome
absolutely amazing, well done!
Miniatures are cool
love this
Coś pięknego ❤️
I love this!
Imagine having a job like this
i'd be so embarrassed.💀💀
looks amazing! I'd probably ask them to do less detailed work if it won't be so visible onscreen, like it was - nighttime, foggy/rainy, etc.
Best Warhammer 40k playing field
amazing craft!
very cool
Too cool
WETA IS 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝
What's the music playing in background, sounds amazing
Love this movie. Just watched it again last night. It's great to see miniatures still being used in film. I'm not against CGI, I just love to see old techniques still being used. Unfortunately, I think it's a dying industry.
Dear Santa, next Christmas could you please reach out to Denis Villeneuve & Roger Deakins to ask for an open matte 4K UHD disc release of Blade Runner 2049? We need to see more of this magic. Thematically, it also makes our protagonists crucial but ever so tiny cogs in a massive post-earthbound existence.
I promise I'll be nice this year.
Super cool
The thing that kinda sucks about when they use miniatures these days is that it’s hard to tell they’re miniatures. Being able to tell something was tiny while it still created a sense of awe was always part of the fun.
Must really have aided visual continuity with the first film as well.
First movie a gem. This film was aweful.
Damn i need this for tabeltop XD
In my opinion it doesn't matter if it's made with CGI or miniatures. As long as it's worked with love. Just like the question what is better an oil painting or a watercolor painting. I always admire the creativity of people.
Damn, imagine a massive miniature wargame being played on this.
Movie magic ❤
Cool
awesome
Only thing I would have done different on the facade pieces is to put a “window cutout” filler on the back with some semi opaque material so that the buildings behind them got spill over light.
I know Jake, he's awesome, he made a concept 3D printed arm cast way back.
still waiting for the day 2049 gets recognized as a masterpiece
i wouldn’t have been surprised if weta were actually pouring some sort of nano concrete to make those mini buildings
Better than CGI..
So creative that window trick and the printed out rooms being just flat pictures is just GENIUS, nothing is better than actual REAL, PRACTICAL FX, they will ALWAYS trump anything that is 100% CGI cuz it's REAL, and the cleanup and blend of practical and CGI in this movie is SEAMLESS and GORGEOUS!!!!...