Each question and statement is a 'trial' and you would tally it just like you would Intensive teaching. Sorry it took 5 years to answer this, *dry laugh* but i had to go get a masters degree. I actually caught a small mistake on the part of the therapist. Incidental teaching is meant to be student directed to maintain high reinforcement and pairing. at 2:00 he takes control over the play and asked the kid to play according to "his rules" - just for a second. "no... that mine silly, you need..." The ideal would have been: "oh! now you have FOUR colours!" or something like that. Also, I absolutely love his energy and tone of voice! so important to make play FUN! good stuff!
@@keenanmclean9916 Congrats on receiving your masters! I just recieved my masters in Special Education Childhood. I am not planning on getting an ABA masters haha, so how can I reassure I will learn proper techniques?
@@kimoramicheal8353 my best suggestion would be to find a supervisor who is familiar with the procedures to train you and give you feed back on your performance. Ideally this person would be a certified behavior analyst, but an experienced behavior tech or teacher could likely do as well. Ethically, it is always best to stay within your scope of competence to maintain best possible treatment for the individuals you support.
From the very first moment, "Nice job! You did so good today you get to pick a game!" As a developmental therapist in the field that is condecending and pathetic, let alone non-emotional-developmental. From an empathic and neuroscientific biopsychosocial relationship perspective/approach following the child's lead does not ever begin on the basis of a reward for "proper good compliance?" Nor for that matter is it viewed as a focus on compartmentalized/specific skill sets. Rather, it is ENTERING their world, where they are at any particular moment and beginning to co-create affect (emotional) variations around their natural movements and interests. It is precisely this which begins to form a MEANINGFUL developmental framework for expanded co-engagement, ideation and social-pragmatic communication/language. Anything less is pure and utter bs!
Do you get paid for your job? "do work" then "get rewarded" is a fundamental structure to society. We have to focus on specific skill sets in order to teach bigger ones. For example, to teach tooth brushing, first the learner needs to be able to grip the toothbrush in a functional manner. In ABA, we often create lists of requisite skills and steps, known as 'task analysis', in order to reduce subjectivity in teaching more complex skills. we then link together these small component skills in a process called 'chaining', in order to accomplish the end result skill (tooth brushing, making grilled cheese, getting dressed etc). I agree that meeting learners where they ARE is a critical element to developmentally sound treatments. In ABA, this procedure is referred to as "pairing" and is the first thing we do with learners - often for many sessions before ever even attempting the teaching procedures. I hope this helps clarify some of your concerns.
The kid seem typical. Is he on the spectrum? ABA benefits children on ASD. If they use typical kids on this video, it falsify that ABA is not as interactive or engaging with ASD children. 😢
What we actually see is the "Instructor' prompting/asking an endless barrage of questions, ad nauseam. This is directing to the point of egregioys. Where and how is the child taking the lead and exploring?! This is entirely antithetical to ANYTHING DEVELOPMENTAL. It is forgive me, nothing short of painful to watch. Disgraceful! Misguided functionally emotionally developmentally and condecending in the extreme!
And demonstrably effective. Properly performed NET interventions should not be any of those things you listed, so if it is, than it is likely due to low treatment fidelity - and frankly, i don't see that going wrong in this video.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, undermining other people's opinions with words such as "pathetic, nausea, egregious, disgraceful, and condescending," when trying to provide an argument is counter-productive. In my experience as a BI, I have met different professionals who sometimes have different outlooks on teaching children such as yourself. The big difference between the comments made by those people and by this comment is the tone. Nobody in the rooms I've been in would speak this way to another working professional-- especially in a team setting. Understanding and effective collaboration between colleagues starts with empathy and respect. It's honestly ironic that you talk about teaching a child this way however fail to recognize the importance of these methods through all people. This is a profession where we literally teach people to communicate effectively. Let's communicate and share insights in a productive way, for the benefit of the kids we work with :)
Neil, the floor play teacher! Nobody reads your garbage, but I understand. I'd be real mad if I devoted my life to rolling around on the floor... Definitely not evidence based practice....
DTT and NET are forms of EIBI, which is a sub-discipline of ABA to the treatment of autism and developmental disabilities.
I like it. 🤩
Very nice teaching
Wonderful!
Just play.... Does playing have to be work, too?
How else can you make learning fun? This is a therapy session to build essential skills, not babysitting.
Where is this centre?
How can I start this technique with my 20 months old son
How do you take data on this?
Each question and statement is a 'trial' and you would tally it just like you would Intensive teaching.
Sorry it took 5 years to answer this, *dry laugh* but i had to go get a masters degree.
I actually caught a small mistake on the part of the therapist.
Incidental teaching is meant to be student directed to maintain high reinforcement and pairing.
at 2:00 he takes control over the play and asked the kid to play according to "his rules" - just for a second.
"no... that mine silly, you need..."
The ideal would have been: "oh! now you have FOUR colours!" or something like that.
Also, I absolutely love his energy and tone of voice! so important to make play FUN!
good stuff!
@@keenanmclean9916 Congrats on receiving your masters! I just recieved my masters in Special Education Childhood. I am not planning on getting an ABA masters haha, so how can I reassure I will learn proper techniques?
@@kimoramicheal8353 my best suggestion would be to find a supervisor who is familiar with the procedures to train you and give you feed back on your performance. Ideally this person would be a certified behavior analyst, but an experienced behavior tech or teacher could likely do as well.
Ethically, it is always best to stay within your scope of competence to maintain best possible treatment for the individuals you support.
@@keenanmclean9916 Perfect! That is what I will do! Thanks!
Does that kid have ASD?? He seems very typical and smart.
How come can call the kid silly????
I have autism
From the very first moment, "Nice job! You did so good today you get to pick a game!" As a developmental therapist in the field that is condecending and pathetic, let alone non-emotional-developmental. From an empathic and neuroscientific biopsychosocial relationship perspective/approach following the child's lead does not ever begin on the basis of a reward for "proper good compliance?" Nor for that matter is it viewed as a focus on compartmentalized/specific skill sets. Rather, it is ENTERING their world, where they are at any particular moment and beginning to co-create affect (emotional) variations around their natural movements and interests. It is precisely this which begins to form a MEANINGFUL developmental framework for expanded co-engagement, ideation and social-pragmatic communication/language. Anything less is pure and utter bs!
Do you get paid for your job?
"do work" then "get rewarded" is a fundamental structure to society.
We have to focus on specific skill sets in order to teach bigger ones. For example, to teach tooth brushing, first the learner needs to be able to grip the toothbrush in a functional manner. In ABA, we often create lists of requisite skills and steps, known as 'task analysis', in order to reduce subjectivity in teaching more complex skills. we then link together these small component skills in a process called 'chaining', in order to accomplish the end result skill (tooth brushing, making grilled cheese, getting dressed etc).
I agree that meeting learners where they ARE is a critical element to developmentally sound treatments. In ABA, this procedure is referred to as "pairing" and is the first thing we do with learners - often for many sessions before ever even attempting the teaching procedures.
I hope this helps clarify some of your concerns.
@@keenanmclean9916 dude is an unknown, floor play teacher who trolls ABA out of jealously. He has no idea what he's talking about
The kid seem typical. Is he on the spectrum? ABA benefits children on ASD. If they use typical kids on this video, it falsify that ABA is not as interactive or engaging with ASD children. 😢
What we actually see is the "Instructor' prompting/asking an endless barrage of questions, ad nauseam. This is directing to the point of egregioys. Where and how is the child taking the lead and exploring?! This is entirely antithetical to ANYTHING DEVELOPMENTAL. It is forgive me, nothing short of painful to watch. Disgraceful! Misguided functionally emotionally developmentally and condecending in the extreme!
And demonstrably effective. Properly performed NET interventions should not be any of those things you listed, so if it is, than it is likely due to low treatment fidelity - and frankly, i don't see that going wrong in this video.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, undermining other people's opinions with words such as "pathetic, nausea, egregious, disgraceful, and condescending," when trying to provide an argument is counter-productive. In my experience as a BI, I have met different professionals who sometimes have different outlooks on teaching children such as yourself. The big difference between the comments made by those people and by this comment is the tone. Nobody in the rooms I've been in would speak this way to another working professional-- especially in a team setting.
Understanding and effective collaboration between colleagues starts with empathy and respect. It's honestly ironic that you talk about teaching a child this way however fail to recognize the importance of these methods through all people. This is a profession where we literally teach people to communicate effectively. Let's communicate and share insights in a productive way, for the benefit of the kids we work with :)
Neil, the floor play teacher! Nobody reads your garbage, but I understand. I'd be real mad if I devoted my life to rolling around on the floor... Definitely not evidence based practice....