This thing is absolutely astonishing! I've been looking for these LC1574W stepper motors for ages and then eventually found them on Ebay for 25€ each🥳🥳 Love it!
Wow thus just keeps getting more exciting. I know you want to wait to do the BOM - a preliminary one would be good as some of these parts are rapidly becoming scarce due to the interest in the project. Just a thought
Great work! I'd like to modify the stl to support 2020 extrusion, Nema 17, mgn12h, and 8mm bridge rods. Could you release the source for the STL files?
Thanks for sharing and keep working on this great design. Not sure if this is the same for everyone, but I keep seeing very strange recommendations from youtube when I visit this channel.
Guys, I have a few LC1574W-04 available if needed. BTW: I modified a A2212 BLDC motor by inverting the shaft. It's a little work but easily done. I imported the motor bracket in Fusion360 and made just a little modification to it. I agree with Michael, it would be nice to have a blog or something where we could exchange.
Is the set screw in the T6 collar supposed to protrude out through the plastic to help make sure the pulley turns the spindle or is friction from the drilled PLA supposed to be enough (maybe even serve as a friction clutch in case you try to cut too much at once)? Mine doesn't protrude, but I have plenty that are longer and could swap out.
@@TheAntPCBMaker Can I just ask a minor favor? Please change the link to my track to the original upload: soundcloud.com/iamflerovium/where-sun-fades-away While my music is indeed licensed as CC-BY-SA I'm not associated with "Royality Free Music - No Copyright Sounds" at all. They blantly linked their reupload in the obligatory text while not including my original upload at all. Updating the link would really help me a lot. Thanks in advance!
I hope that at some point (sooner rather than later) you decide to sell kits, including everything in the (upcoming) BOM as well as the 3D printed parts.
Has enyony found motors to fit this design? as the turnigy 2632-1000kv + 1500kv and the mystery 2632-100kv no longer are available, if not does anyone have the know how to alter the stl file to make it fit a biger motor 2832-1000kv that is available.
Interesting that there is a comment that the belt will be tightened later with the screws but no description of how to do this? Anyone have experience with this part?
Behind the head there are 2 hex nuts that allow to regulate the belts tension. We suggest to not pull too much, but neither to leave the belts too slack. The best is to have the same tension on both the belts.
Beautiful design , but is LC1574W-04 good enough for the task? also why such an expensive and difficult motor? why not something else? Also a 2020 vslot version would be nice. most people use them and there is no much difference in the total width and hight ... just 2 more centimeters but still stronger. Any other suggestions for z motor? Thanks in advance. Keep up with those wonderful videos and please add a version with a cheapest and most common z moter ;)
26mm motors are unobtanium and really a non-standard size in the RC world, I've modded the STL (offset the motor 1.5mm) to take a regular 28mm brushless motor - NTM propdrive 28-26 1350kv which will offer a bit more speed and torque too. Any other 28mm motor of >1000kv and 3mm shaft in the correct place should be just fine.
@@neilgillies6943 www.thingiverse.com/ is a good site to share 3D designs but you could also make a folder in dropbox or google drive with access to everyone :) ty for your quick reply
Great project!!!!! I had a few questions: 1. i don't see a way to preload the bearings? I don't think they will hold the Z position without some "pinching" force. Depending on the set screw for the pulley doesn't seem like it will hold up the the vibration from my experience. this will likely lead to the shaft drifting down until the pulley falls off or it crashes into the bed. 2. I also wonder about the heat at high RPM. 3. those bearings have no dust mitigation... pcb dust is bad. 4. why corexy with such slow movement speeds? What is the desired milling speed and what spindle speed will be needed to keep up with it? 5. nema 17 is way more common and cheap. +1 to the folks suggesting the mounts be made for them. 6. why profile rails on one axis and unsupported on the other? 7. stl files are great to share but fusion360 or openscad would be better.
Hi. 1. As you can see in the videos we use hot air to align the bearings. To preload the bearings we found a way, maybe it's not the correct one, but it works for us. We insert some bearings balls into the lm6uu to get the right motion. For now the grub screw kept in place the iron collar connected to the pulley. 2. For now our rpm is about 5000 and we use an engraving bit with 3 cutting edges. In this condition we don't see heat issues if the bearings are well lubricated. 3. Surely for the 706c in the lower part the dust is a problem. We are studying a small protection to apply. If you know bearings with the same characteristics but with dust protection tell us, please. 4. For compactness reasons and to avoid a motion motor on the Bridge. 5. We chose nema 11, we found in thingiverse a guy that is modifying the project 2020 profiles and maybe nema 17. Try to follow his version. 6. Compactness 7. We will likely release also the step files,as soon as we will have a bit of spare time. Thanks for your questions.
Hi, love the project. do you have suggestions for the linear rails as I don't know if i trust the super cheap ones on alibaba or bangood, but want to avoid over spending on the rails. Also could design files be provided so that modifications can be made to the printed parts? Finally can you start a subreddit or discord or something so that discussions can be had?
We used the ones from AliExpress or banggood and didn't have any problems until now. We will talk about the linear bearings, as soon as we can, there is something to discuss there. For the rest we are thinking about it, for now there is a subreddit about theAnt opened by someone.
I've started to collect parts for this :) Really looking forward to putting it together! What made you choose that specific motor? It's an unusual size, so not many options and that particular one is globally out of stock! What were the attributes you were looking for when picking this motor? Size, Cost, Power, RPM? Thanks!
Hey, sorry for sounding ignorant, but how do you up load the code? I'm at the point were I want to test the electronics and I plan to use the Control board here from your files.
No problem. Depending on your operating system you would see the nucleo board as a mass storage device when you connect it to the usb. If you are on windows you need to install the drivers of the board, on the producer page you will find the st-link firmware, I think you may use that to upgrade your board drivers. If you use a unix based system you should be good to go from the start. Then, in the download section of the repository download the .bin file, and copy it into the mass storage. If you did the things correctly you should see the board led change status. Disconnect the usb, reconnect it and use bCNC to connect to the COM port (you should see one).
@@TheAntPCBMaker How may I edit the .bin file? I tried the compiler from st but I think I might be missing something. Or, I think what I mean is what files or program is needed to generate my own .bin file for my setup. I have motors I want to use and this a great board.
@@samuelgonzalez7783 it's makefile based. You need to have python 2.7 in your path, as well as an arm-none-eabi-gcc toolchain in your path. Then use a gnu based make to launch the build process. I will not go in further details, but if you just need to change some parameters you may also avoid to rebuild, you just need to change the parameters by serial command. As an example, if you want to change the step/mm of an axis you may do it by serial termina. Just look up to the GRBL 0.9 Gcode commands, we used that as a base.
@@TheAntPCBMaker Ah, okay thanks. During the time after this reply I was able to get bcnc running my Raspberry pi 3 and fix the drives so that it can detected and use the control board. Wasn't easy, first time in, but I got it running now and it's flawless. Thank you for making something truly worthwhile. My only issue now is the Z motor. Looking for alternatives me being in the USA. Anyways, thank you.
Indeed, just not sure in regards to rigidity. I'd expect the rails to do a better job than the smooth rods. That is actually why I asked, the common problem I see in 3D printed and DiY CNC's is that one, the smooth rods twist causing removing rigidity to the Z Axis and accuracy. For some time I've been improving a DiY cnc (Cyclone) and while I managed to sort out all other issues that is the last one standing due to the rods twisting. But this is just an idea exchange, the ant is phenomenal and I want to build one. :)
To discuss issues(and anything else related to (The Ant) there is a blog on reddit that a subscriber started,.This is the link: www.reddit.com/r/TheANT/
Amazing work! I hope I can find some time next weekend and start assembling my on own Ant PCB Maker. Sadly I still have to wait for some components from china...
@@TheAntPCBMaker Honestly I waited a long time for a project like this. I followed some other projects, but none of them had such a nice design and promising results. I always wanted a rapid alternative of ordering pcb's from china. Even if I was quite impressed by their quality It took ages until they arrive and sometimes they even get stuck in customs. Some question have you plans or ideas to integrate some kind of vacuum cleaner into the design?
Until the full set of parts are released neither of your questions can be answered, once I have the files, I'll get a set printed and will be able to post pictures so you can get a better idea of the quality. I am not a commercial producer, but would like to help where I can.
It's another BOM drop... do I have any 25mm M3 screws? I don't think I do. Doh, now I have to order 25mm M3 screws. I only just ordered 30mm M3 screws! The ebay seller be like... this guy again?
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*Thanks so much for producing and providing this information, so that others can enjoy your creation!*
Thanks for your Work and your detailed Videos 👍
This thing is absolutely astonishing! I've been looking for these LC1574W stepper motors for ages and then eventually found them on Ebay for 25€ each🥳🥳 Love it!
Could you share a link? I have been searching and nothing comes up anywhere.
@@Thezarnold16 Sure, here ist the link: www.ebay.de/itm/LC1574W-04-025-linear-stepper-motor-LC1574W-04/143180292035
Just bought the last one...
@Carl Shelton True, they are, but hey, what's life without a bit of risk! ;-)
I love this concept & verry much appreciate your sharing it with the world. I'm really looking forward to building one, Thank You! :-)
Wow thus just keeps getting more exciting. I know you want to wait to do the BOM - a preliminary one would be good as some of these parts are rapidly becoming scarce due to the interest in the project. Just a thought
Great work! I'd like to modify the stl to support 2020 extrusion, Nema 17, mgn12h, and 8mm bridge rods. Could you release the source for the STL files?
Got the exact parts from the BOM but the chuck shaft does not fit the bearings ! What can I do ?
Thanks for sharing and keep working on this great design. Not sure if this is the same for everyone, but I keep seeing very strange recommendations from youtube when I visit this channel.
I do have very Strange recommendations too...very strange "Kids Videos"
@@GermanAnimationen Me too, I think it's that "music". God bless mute button.
@@GermanAnimationen yes that's it, I checked and it was only on this one video from the channel.
Likely i used "the ant" metatag as first metatag and the video has been categorized as a toy... My bad
@@TheAntPCBMaker Well I hope it helps that you noticed this so you can make sure the correct people see it.
Guys, I have a few LC1574W-04 available if needed.
BTW: I modified a A2212 BLDC motor by inverting the shaft. It's a little work but easily done.
I imported the motor bracket in Fusion360 and made just a little modification to it.
I agree with Michael, it would be nice to have a blog or something where we could exchange.
Where does the endoscope fit? Thanks!
Hi, take a look at this video: ruclips.net/video/YpQbVpmD7eY/видео.html
The maximum endoscope diameter that fits is 7 mm.
Is the set screw in the T6 collar supposed to protrude out through the plastic to help make sure the pulley turns the spindle or is friction from the drilled PLA supposed to be enough (maybe even serve as a friction clutch in case you try to cut too much at once)? Mine doesn't protrude, but I have plenty that are longer and could swap out.
Hi David, yes, exactly, it has to protrude and you should change the set screw. Thanks for pointing this out :)
Thanks a lot for using and linking my music :) Definitely interested in a PCB printing machine too! :D
Thanks for your music, people support free music artist!
I was listening and thinking, the Ant Guys have good taste in music. I'm glad Ant Fans can find you this way. BOM BOM BOM!
@@marhar2 Thanks! Glad to hear that you like my music, haha!
@@TheAntPCBMaker Can I just ask a minor favor?
Please change the link to my track to the original upload:
soundcloud.com/iamflerovium/where-sun-fades-away
While my music is indeed licensed as CC-BY-SA I'm not associated with "Royality Free Music - No Copyright Sounds" at all.
They blantly linked their reupload in the obligatory text while not including my original upload at all.
Updating the link would really help me a lot. Thanks in advance!
I hope that at some point (sooner rather than later) you decide to sell kits, including everything in the (upcoming) BOM as well as the 3D printed parts.
Where is this Z axis motor LC1574W-04-025 stepper from? Car part? Nor the easiest partying find? Any alternative?
There are on ebay, I have seen at least two sellers.
LC1574W-04 lot on ebay: bit.ly/2Ijlju9
or here: bit.ly/2YPh3bE
The cute little LC1574W linear stepper motor is difficult to source, what could I use as an alternative?
is easy to found on Ebay : 223468335517
Has enyony found motors to fit this design? as the turnigy 2632-1000kv + 1500kv and the mystery 2632-100kv no longer are available, if not does anyone have the know how to alter the stl file to make it fit a biger motor 2832-1000kv that is available.
Great work guys !!!!
Interesting that there is a comment that the belt will be tightened later with the screws but no description of how to do this? Anyone have experience with this part?
Behind the head there are 2 hex nuts that allow to regulate the belts tension. We suggest to not pull too much, but neither to leave the belts too slack. The best is to have the same tension on both the belts.
Nice design. Do you have to plan to add STEP files in your bitbucket repo? It would be easy to customize the 3d print mechanics. Thanks
Beautiful design , but is LC1574W-04 good enough for the task? also why such an expensive and difficult motor? why not something else? Also a 2020 vslot version would be nice. most people use them and there is no much difference in the total width and hight ... just 2 more centimeters but still stronger. Any other suggestions for z motor? Thanks in advance. Keep up with those wonderful videos and please add a version with a cheapest and most common z moter ;)
Agree! Can't find this motor anywhere.
26mm motors are unobtanium and really a non-standard size in the RC world, I've modded the STL (offset the motor 1.5mm) to take a regular 28mm brushless motor - NTM propdrive 28-26 1350kv which will offer a bit more speed and torque too. Any other 28mm motor of >1000kv and 3mm shaft in the correct place should be just fine.
@@neilgillies6943 Could you share your new STL files?
@@gerokatseros Sure, where do you suggest.? I don't know if there's a forum on this yet?
@@neilgillies6943 www.thingiverse.com/ is a good site to share 3D designs but you could also make a folder in dropbox or google drive with access to everyone :) ty for your quick reply
😂 ANT @ work ... with Flanzen listening to his (own) music ... (hi!) 😂
Where can you buy the LC1574W?
Great project!!!!! I had a few questions:
1. i don't see a way to preload the bearings? I don't think they will hold the Z position without some "pinching" force. Depending on the set screw for the pulley doesn't seem like it will hold up the the vibration from my experience. this will likely lead to the shaft drifting down until the pulley falls off or it crashes into the bed.
2. I also wonder about the heat at high RPM.
3. those bearings have no dust mitigation... pcb dust is bad.
4. why corexy with such slow movement speeds? What is the desired milling speed and what spindle speed will be needed to keep up with it?
5. nema 17 is way more common and cheap. +1 to the folks suggesting the mounts be made for them.
6. why profile rails on one axis and unsupported on the other?
7. stl files are great to share but fusion360 or openscad would be better.
Hi.
1. As you can see in the videos we use hot air to align the bearings. To preload the bearings we found a way, maybe it's not the correct one, but it works for us. We insert some bearings balls into the lm6uu to get the right motion. For now the grub screw kept in place the iron collar connected to the pulley.
2. For now our rpm is about 5000 and we use an engraving bit with 3 cutting edges. In this condition we don't see heat issues if the bearings are well lubricated.
3. Surely for the 706c in the lower part the dust is a problem. We are studying a small protection to apply. If you know bearings with the same characteristics but with dust protection tell us, please.
4. For compactness reasons and to avoid a motion motor on the Bridge.
5. We chose nema 11, we found in thingiverse a guy that is modifying the project 2020 profiles and maybe nema 17. Try to follow his version.
6. Compactness
7. We will likely release also the step files,as soon as we will have a bit of spare time.
Thanks for your questions.
Hi, love the project. do you have suggestions for the linear rails as I don't know if i trust the super cheap ones on alibaba or bangood, but want to avoid over spending on the rails. Also could design files be provided so that modifications can be made to the printed parts? Finally can you start a subreddit or discord or something so that discussions can be had?
We used the ones from AliExpress or banggood and didn't have any problems until now. We will talk about the linear bearings, as soon as we can, there is something to discuss there. For the rest we are thinking about it, for now there is a subreddit about theAnt opened by someone.
So excited to see your progress!
just my personal preference: you don’t really need the music.
Any way to get a hardware bundle needed for this project? Thanks.
I've started to collect parts for this :) Really looking forward to putting it together!
What made you choose that specific motor? It's an unusual size, so not many options and that particular one is globally out of stock!
What were the attributes you were looking for when picking this motor? Size, Cost, Power, RPM?
Thanks!
Thanks
Can you provide me purchasing link of Z axis motor LC1574W-04-025 ?
Anyone knows where to get these ?
Molto bello, complimenti.
Hey, sorry for sounding ignorant, but how do you up load the code? I'm at the point were I want to test the electronics and I plan to use the Control board here from your files.
No problem. Depending on your operating system you would see the nucleo board as a mass storage device when you connect it to the usb. If you are on windows you need to install the drivers of the board, on the producer page you will find the st-link firmware, I think you may use that to upgrade your board drivers. If you use a unix based system you should be good to go from the start. Then, in the download section of the repository download the .bin file, and copy it into the mass storage. If you did the things correctly you should see the board led change status. Disconnect the usb, reconnect it and use bCNC to connect to the COM port (you should see one).
@@TheAntPCBMaker
How may I edit the .bin file? I tried the compiler from st but I think I might be missing something.
Or, I think what I mean is what files or program is needed to generate my own .bin file for my setup. I have motors I want to use and this a great board.
@@samuelgonzalez7783 it's makefile based. You need to have python 2.7 in your path, as well as an arm-none-eabi-gcc toolchain in your path. Then use a gnu based make to launch the build process. I will not go in further details, but if you just need to change some parameters you may also avoid to rebuild, you just need to change the parameters by serial command. As an example, if you want to change the step/mm of an axis you may do it by serial termina. Just look up to the GRBL 0.9 Gcode commands, we used that as a base.
@@TheAntPCBMaker
Ah, okay thanks. During the time after this reply I was able to get bcnc running my Raspberry pi 3 and fix the drives so that it can detected and use the control board. Wasn't easy, first time in, but I got it running now and it's flawless. Thank you for making something truly worthwhile. My only issue now is the Z motor. Looking for alternatives me being in the USA.
Anyways, thank you.
Are the extrusion profiles MakerBeams?
Motion and Transmission Assembly step completed!
ruclips.net/video/1NwnwaRtcVc/видео.html
Thanks to the Ant guys as usual
Very cool!
Any reason why you didn't use also linear rails also in the X axis?
If we had used the linear rail the machining tool would have been more distant from the bridge, at the expense of rigidity.
Indeed, just not sure in regards to rigidity. I'd expect the rails to do a better job than the smooth rods.
That is actually why I asked, the common problem I see in 3D printed and DiY CNC's is that one, the smooth rods twist
causing removing rigidity to the Z Axis and accuracy. For some time I've been improving a DiY cnc (Cyclone) and while I managed to sort out all other issues that is the last one standing due to the rods twisting.
But this is just an idea exchange, the ant is phenomenal and I want to build one. :)
Hey, is there a discord or other chat where we can talk about the project?
To discuss issues(and anything else related to (The Ant) there is a blog on reddit that a subscriber started,.This is the link: www.reddit.com/r/TheANT/
Amazing work! I hope I can find some time next weekend and start assembling my on own Ant PCB Maker.
Sadly I still have to wait for some components from china...
Yes we know the feeling of wanting...
@@TheAntPCBMaker Honestly I waited a long time for a project like this. I followed some other projects, but none of them had such a nice design and promising results. I always wanted a rapid alternative of ordering pcb's from china. Even if I was quite impressed by their quality It took ages until they arrive and sometimes they even get stuck in customs.
Some question have you plans or ideas to integrate some kind of vacuum cleaner into the design?
Aren't we always waiting for "some part(s)" ... mainly from china 😂
Thanks for using my music! Keep it up!
😹
Thanks for your music, people support free music artist!
总体设计得很好 肯定是用了Solidwoks.
CoreXY? Interesting.
I think I will use Nema 17 instead of Nema 11.
Nema 11 are poorly available and expensive in my country and Nema 17 is cheap as dirt.
Same. In my case because I already have them from other projects.
Should be fairly simple to adjust the mounts to use them.
I use a nema 17 for my ANT, i have the .stl
@@loripendragon9132 So, commit your solution to the repository and be proud that you gave something to others.
@@tomaszjarysz2822 Please post your tips, tricks and mods. on reddit This is the link: www.reddit.com/r/TheANT/
Anyone in the UK needing the parts printed, happy to run sets off once the project is released in full....
What are you charging for the full set, and what is your quality like?
Until the full set of parts are released neither of your questions can be answered, once I have the files, I'll get a set printed and will be able to post pictures so you can get a better idea of the quality. I am not a commercial producer, but would like to help where I can.
I understand the full stl files are already out, you can find them here: bitbucket.org/compactpcbmaker/cpcbm/overview in the download link,
I need this in my life...
Too much time wasted with photoresist and etching solution.
Не, я конечно все понимаю. вес было интересно, а где первый запуск???
It's another BOM drop... do I have any 25mm M3 screws? I don't think I do. Doh, now I have to order 25mm M3 screws. I only just ordered 30mm M3 screws! The ebay seller be like... this guy again?
I think you need to repaint your nails! :-D
This motor is too hard to buy.
Great Video! Atrocious music
why is the ant using totally oversized 3d parts and even more strange totally unbalanced top frame assembly