To anyone who doesn't get it - the kid had to take white rook but had only one second remaining at his clock, at first he took the rook but didn't put his rook in the right square ( here e8 instead of d8, because he probably went really fast ), his opponent call the arbiter and claim illegal move. Then the move has to be played again, the player playing white starts the clock and the kid loses on time, they get up from the board but then the arbiter says that he was the one supposed to start the clock, so they sit back and replay the move again ! except this time the kid makes the move with two hand, which is also illegal ( probably cause he would lose on time making it with one hand only ) at first the arbiter just wants to give the kid a warning, but his opponent insist that he has to make the move with one hand. Finally, they replay the move one last time, and the kid loses on time, not managing to capturing the rook with one second. Not perfect english, hope everyone got it !
Just a small correction the cheating kid is the one who complained to the Arbiter that he was supposed to hit the clock and then the arbiter lied to the other opponent saying he told them he was supposed to hit the clock when the f****** idiot already walked away from the board. Corruption at its best the Arbiter probably wants to undermine the clock cuz he feels Blitz isn't real chest like classical is and the kid is f****** Street Hustler with his sleight of hand grabbing his opponent rook and putting his on a more advantageous Square.
1800fide here. Can recall entire games from memory that I have in 90+30 format no problem, mention to mention a specific position like that not a minute later. It’s really not an issue once you get to be moderately good at chess and the time control is long / match is important
@@technoskin3962 I agree somewhat, but it's very hard for me to remember entire positions and games because I lack photographic memory and even may suffer from aphantasia. That said, thanks to the board notation, I have used the letters and numbers to play entire blindfold games and win against weaker opponents that were looking at the board and pieces; however, it is a serious mental chore for me every time, and remembering the entire game I think I've only done a couple of times. Do you have photographic memory for that to be easier for you, or do you use the same method as me?
@@PierReVesper And they started the clock because MC didnt arrive in time (maybe waited 5min, i dont know what are the rules), so not only waiting 2min
The player that complained about the young boy playing with one hand and pressing the clock with the other is correct. This is a very clear rule and it is part of competitive chess.
True, yet - it also is illegal to start the clock on your own, and just like an illegal move the opponent get's additional time. Problem would have been solved. Poor handling of the situation when a kid is involved. White seems like a bully.
@@waschkarte3989 White is not a bully. They had reached a position where Black had one second on his clock and it was his turn. On this turn, he has to make his move completely with all pieces in their proper spots, and press the clock, and do it all with one hand only. The boy didn't do that task. The first time he tried it (in the original game), he didn't place the pieces in the right spots. The second time he tried it, he used two hands instead of one, to save precious time. When he was finally asked to do it with one hand and do it right, he knocked pieces over. All this demonstrates that he should've rightly lost on time in the original game. If you're down to one second in your game, you have to deal with that first. You don't get a pass. All White was trying to do was recreate the original situation exactly, down to its last detail. That's only fair.
@@akawojo It is quite funny actually - an insufferable and dishonest kid gets taught a lesson early in life. Better know what karma is sooner rather than later.
If you leave yourself with only one second to make a move, then this sort of scenario can easily happen. Bizarre things become the norm in a time scramble. I watched a game where a player had a few seconds to make the time control. He picked up his rook, and swung it over to the other side of the board, and it slipped out of his hand onto the floor. He picked it up just in time, and put in onto an adjacent square than he'd intended, which was a game losing move. Use your time wisely.
It blitz you don't get more time. So the situation is different. I look at the kid's face and it seems to be that he knew he lost, he was ready to get ready for the next game, but is frustrated with all these adults forcing him to do all this weird s***** over and over.
@@danielch6662 He could have just shaked hands. I feel kid is stupid it is clearly seen he is going to lose the match 1 sec to make move, moreover so many illegal moves and arbiter should get standing ovation for the circus he has created good for content.
@@Dario_Salvi nobody, not even the kid, are saying that the kid should have won. Everyone accepts that the kid lost and the kid accepted that he lost eay before all of us. But all of these people calling him a cheater are idiots. Believe it or not, human beings are not perfect and these things happen when we only have one second to think. If this kid is a cheater, then so is Magnus Carlsen, Hikaru, Fabiano, Wesley So, and any other ranked chess player because they have all played illegal moves at some point.
What makes it even more funny is that Rxd8 is a terrible move because it loses to Qxd8+ followed by Bd4 threatening checkmate (as also pointed out by Adhiban). Very easy to spot for these players if they're not under time pressure. So by the time Uskov had to repeat his move Rxd8 everybody already knew that he would lose no matter if he would manage to execute the move in one second or not. Another fun fact: When they reassemble the pieces at 2:08 Uskov confidently puts his king on h7 which would be a safer square, then at 2:20 Kovalev puts it on g8 where it actually was.
Yeah I think here the Kid really outed himself. Sorry but if there is one thing you don't forget it's where your King was in a critical position because you always have to look for checks and you will always keep them in mind. I was pretty neutral but with that observation we know that the Kid tried to cheat at least here. At least that's unbelievably unlikely. He would have had to have a complete mindslip. A very convenient Mindslip. Edit: Now I watched a second further and the Kid tried to cheat again. Moving with one hand a pressing clock with the other one is an extremely obvious rule that even beginners are Immediately taught on their very first day. Breaking this rule will make any chess player furious because it gives a clear advantage and every chess player obviously knows it. The Kid tried to cheat multiple times in a row here. He is a kid so it's fine but just let that be clear.
After allllll that, the arbiter starts dying laughing after its over.. I love it, cuz no one else laughed, especially the players who were pissed! It almost felt like a moment on "The Office"... hahahah
This isn't chess; it's prestidigitation !! It's a game. It's part of the rules. The younger players lost on time . Full stop. And thank you, Elu, for an excellent summary.
While resetting the board around 2:00 the kid deliberately puts his king on h7 ( to avoid checkmate ) and Kovalev had to put it on g8 to correct the position !?
Correction to my post. I just read that the rules dictate the boy should've been disqualified and that's that. They shouldn't have had to recreate the original situation just for the boy.
3:45 is very weird. The ref changes his mind after Kovalev complains. It's like he's improvising. What is the rule? Should a player be forced to redo a move that he's played with both hands or not?
I think the arbiter was right at the beginning- you can not move a piece and press the clock with different hand, but it is not an illegal MOVE on the chessboard. Therefore it results in a warning but the game should continue and if he were to do it again he loses automatically. For some reason he changed his mind because of that guy's arguing which is very unprofessional and just plain stupid.
@@BakedFishy but the move was already played. It is like get out of jail card. You can break the rules to keep playing and nothing will happen to you. But the guy on the left was irritating. I would just resign as this kid, instead of taking part in this bizarre drama.
I think it was correct for the ref to change his mind because maybe if you did it in the middle of a match then it doesn't matter as much but if you did it on the final second at a crucial moment then that really does matter. It's like in tennis if you lose a point in the middle of the game unfairly then it wouldn't matter as much but if that point was match point then no you have to play fairly
It's not the chess play that is weird... this is what I call wtf moment. @ :23 where the guy just go in front of another guy and block his view like he doesn't exist.
You're not allowed to play with two hands in chess. So @2:37 he has one hand on the piece and one hand on the clock. So if he takes the rook with his right he must punch the clock w his right hand. This is well-known rule that every blitz player knows. Furthermore if you knock down pieces you must set them up before hitting the clock. In the end I guess he has like 1 second on the clock so he loses if he plays correctly.
@@niichan5635 He already made an illegal move though! and he had 1 second on the clock! What a dirty way to play chess and no wonder this is not a fan sport like more popular ones.
Technically, you can play with two hands if you use one Hand to capture then use the other hand to remove the captured piece from the board while the capturing hand goes for that clock 😅😅
@@cooloutac illegal move in time scramble can happen. in the recent us championship irina krush made illegal move and arbiter gave her opponent additional time. i didn't see any allegations that she is cheating or something like that. your treatment of this whole situation is quite overdramatic. it is clear that he just misrepresented the board
2:51 "Playing with two hands is not an illegal move", meanwhile in the Laws of Chess: "7.5.4 If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered and penalised as if an illegal move." Those arbiters are a joke for not knowing the rules and for laughing at the end 🤦♂.
@2:50 - The arbiter when he says 'playing with two hands is not an illegal move' is the cause of this confusion. If all players could do this, each player will have one hand on the piece to move and the other hand on top of the stop clock at all times during the match and then clock will never run out, especially with a two second increment per move during blitz.
The arbiter found it to be quite funny too. Also, he has a great singing voice. He sang a couple of songs for the Norwegian TV journalist. Great guy. The journalist too!
I also always thought I couldn't really do it but then I was asked to rebuild the position when I was verbally analysing after a game and it's actually really easy.
@@sudhramjutun5694 actually the kid on the right conveniently "forgot" where a few of his pieces were and tried to arrange the board wrong before the other guy fixed it.
Player with white actually understands the fine details of chess rules very well. Sometimes, the rules are so complicated (unbelievable, I know) that not even the arbiters know how to best handle the situation.
I hope we can have integrity in chess of all things. That young kid knew he lost, more than once. No two hands and no illegal moves. Touch move etc. These are THE rules. He should have resigned
@@oblio9147 Uhm... "I touch. You press. Then you have to play," he says, less than a second before the older player TOUCHES, then PRESSES... What dimension am I living in that no one else is living in, where it's like I'm the only one who sees the truth?
Actually, watching it in 0.25x you can ensure that there was much less than 1 second on the clock somehow, after arbiter pressed the button it has to be four seconds on 0.25 but it was not much than 1.5
What? How can you even tell? You’re watching a modified slow motion (that’s what 0.25x speed is) and also have no idea what the FPS used was (which is what actually matters). At this small level of measurement (splitsecond) you need to capture the footage in slow motion to have a true objective measure. Otherwise you can’t know the exact time remaining: capturing something in slow motion is different from merely replaying something in slow motion.
peoples eye will register about a quarter of a sec with really good eyesight and about another quarter to react by the time your hands start moving more than half a sec will be gone.
If you watch the first retry in slow motion it is quite interesting. The kid has 1 second put on his clock, and his opponent starts his clock, the clock ticks to zero almost immediately certainly way less than one second (6 frames in the video if you want to count them). Not sure if it is the way the clocks are designed, but if you are flagged when it shows zero then the kid was definitely not getting the full one second to play the move. Also was it correct to reset his clock to one second, presumably that was the time he had after the very first illegal move, should they reset to that or the time he had before making that illegal move, which was presumably more than one second?
Also interestingly the final attempt to make the move the kid actually got about 3 times as much time to make the move compared to the first try when his opponent pressed the button (though still less than one second it seems). Not sure if this is because the clock takes longer to start from the button the arbiter pressed vs the opponent's button, but definitely very different length of time for it to click to zero. Given this is a single video of an arbiter putting one second on the clock twice, but ending up with very different lengths of time for that move I think there should be a question asked abut whether the arbiters understand how the clocks work and how to set them.
Yes. Otherwise, everybody would just have one finger hovering over the clock all the time. It proves that it is impossible to compete the capture with 1 second on the clock. HOWEVER, he completed that move earlier before the camera started recording. This suggests that he actually had more than 1s remaining originally. That was why he could complete the move the first time. Even though he screwed up and left his room in the wrong place because of the rush. He had 1s AFTER the fumbled move. When the arbiter asked how much time was remaining, Kovalev said "one second" and Uskov (the kid) did not dispute it. The arbiter then proceeded to set the clock to one second, and told Uskov to try to do it again with him watching. The arbiter set the wrong time on the clock. If they were to replay that move, the clock should have been set back further, to how much time Uskov had the moment Kovalev press the button on his clock. I'm not sure anybody knew what that was. But that would still have been the wrong thing to do. The correct thing would be to move the rook in the wrong place to where it should be, and penalised Uskov. That would be either a warning or forfeiture of the game for making an illegal move, depending on the rules in effect in this tournament. Continue with 1 second on Uskov's clock, with Kovalev to move.
They had reached a position where Black had one second on his clock and it was his turn. On this turn, he has to make his move completely with all pieces in their proper spots, and press the clock, and do it all with one hand only. The boy didn't do that task. The first time he tried it (in the original game), he didn't place the pieces in the right spots. The second time he tried it, he used two hands instead of one, to save precious time. When he was finally asked to do it with one hand and do it right, he knocked pieces over. All this demonstrates that he should've rightly lost on time in the original game. If you're down to one second in your game, you have to deal with that first. You don't get a pass. All White was trying to do was recreate the original situation exactly, down to its last detail. That's only fair. You can even see the frustration in White's voice. He asks for the original situation and for Black to do the original task with one second, as he was supposed to. If in a game you manage to get your opponent's clock down to one second, it's not fair to have that accomplishment taken away from you. White just wanted those circumstances reinstated, and we play from there. In the end White got it, and won on time fair and square. In the end they even gave the kid everything he needed to play on. The original time he had left, and the right to move. It's just that this time they insisted he do it with one hand, and place all pieces correctly before pressing the clock. These are just normal rules that apply to everyone. And you don't get multiple attempts to get this done. You get one. He got one. And he didn't do it. So he lost on time. This is a fair outcome.
@@leenb7560 If it were so obvious to everybody as you so quaintly put it, then why are there plenty of people arguing on it? Apparently it wasn't obvious enough to everybody here, regardless of whether we know it's true or not.
"You can even see the frustration in White's voice." Because by the rules, after move with two hands ref should've end the game. Rules 7.5.4+7.5.5. Vlad was upset that ref at the world cup don't know FIDE rules. He tried to explain them, but this people were smoking smth, especially the ref who told him to "press the clock", then fell sleep for two minutes, while they cleared the board, then decided he had to press the clock himself.
The two handed move was made because the kid was 12, and all the adults around him were telling him to make the move in 1s. He's a kid. He tried to do what the adult told him to. If it was me, I would just sit there and look at them in the eye. _Are you kidding me? What is the point of this_ ? Just let the clock run out. There isn't even enough time to offer to resign. In actual fact, he originally had MORE than 1s. The evidence of this is that he completed the move the first time, even though his rook ended up in the wrong place in his rush. He had 1s AFTER the fumbled move. The arbiter clearly screwed up. The rook ending up in the wrong square is clearly an illegal move. That results in a either forfeit or a warning. If it is a warning, you place the rook where it should be, set Uskov's clock to 1 second, and Kovalev gets to move next. If you want Uskov to re-do his move, then you need to set the clock further back, to however much time he had the moment Kovalev pressed HIS clock in the previous move. But I doubt anybody knows what that was. In any case, calling for a re-enactment is just crazy. In no universe, is there a situation where that is the correct remedy.
@@danielch6662 Nah, he knew it was impossible and said so himself just before his third attempt. He knew the position he was in and was trying to work around it by not following the rules. In a world class tournament and he has to play by the same rules as everyone else. No slack here.
Almost all elite players can remember the positions of all the pieces and every move of a game they played recently. Some can remember the moves and positions years after the game.
Not flexing at all but being a 1750 rated guy, it is very easy to setup the board of the match I played recently. These guys are professionals and can play on 3 board simultaneously blindfolded and make a joke out of a players like us
Did the arbiter actually say using 2 hands is not illegal? 2:44 They don't even know the rules! Kovalev had to explain it to them! What an absolute joke!
1. kid took rook but replaced his on the wrong square arbiter called 2. blonde guy started the clock when arbiter should have they make them replay the move 3. kid used 2 hands replay move again 4. kid loses on time
@@hypercubemaster2729Adhiban came up to him and said “you know you are winning right?”, and said some actual moves. The game is still in progress, that’s definitely not ok
The move with two hands is just a warning the first time and then the arbiter can decide the appropriate punishment (usually adding 2mins to the opponents clock but if it continues he can even disqualify him). The kid did not have to replay the move, but in this case there is an issue because nobody can make a move and press the clock with one hand in one second. So by playing with two hands the boy avoids the loss. I believe that here the arbiter is correct to change his mind and force the replay of the move. That's why we have human arbiters and not computers, to be able to judge according to the situation. Only thing I have a problem with is that the arbiter is not quick to think on his feet: 1) Initially he accepts the loss but then realizes (correctly in my opinion) he was not the one to press the clock so the players are forced to setup the position again. When you don't have a scoresheet it's not easy to setup a position from scratch and if the boy insisted that he had an extra piece somewhere things would escalate. 2) He changes his mind and forces the kid to replay the position with one hand (again correctly in my opinion), but only after his opponent strongly insisted. That seems like taking sides, although in reality his opinion was swayed by the argument.
There is a video of Kasparov in which he takes less than a second every time he makes a move and press the button. It's called something like "Kasparov didnt let his clock go down from 5 seconds"
Yes but the Kid purposely got it wrong in hopes nobody would notice. He put his King on a much safer Square. If there is one piece you remember the position of its your king bc you always check for checks and have them in mind at all times. So the Kid tried to cheat at least two, more likely three times in a row.
@@arielsavala5360 not every 2400+ rated player has a great chess memory, but it's true that remembering the position of a game they were just playing is childishly easy. people are impressed by it and things like blindfold, but it's so elementary compared to their chess understanding and skill. it's like being impressed that lebron james can jump high enough to dunk a basketball. it's such an odd ability to single out and focus on considering how easy it is.
@@zfeazcesd1047. You are totally right. Same for classical pianist. People are always impressed that I know the whole piece by heart, even though this is least impressive part of the whole performance and comes automatically with practicing the piece. But I also understand that as a non-experts the memorizing skill or being able to play blindfolded is one of the few abilities that a non-expert can actually see and hence be impressed with. Computing 100 of variants in your mind to decide to push a pawn at the edge might be more impressive but for a non-expert it looks like someone thought for a while and just pushed a pawn, which everyone can do. But knowing that playing blindfolded is just a basic skill for a master player make chess masters even more impressive.
It is sad how many people who do not know rules are commenting. Very poor decisions by arbiters. Firstly, Kovalev starting the clock and later arbiters realized that Kovalev should have not. Secondly, it is true that the player cannot play with both hands, it is illegal, but the penalty for this behavior is not going back to the previous position and letting him to do the move again (in normal circumstances with more time it would be pure nonsense). I don't understand at all why they listened to Kovalev. Unfortunately, Black wasn't experienced enough to protest against it.
If you are a fair Player you should not complain about this ruling as the young kid. Because you made a illegal move and after that you doing another one just to outplay the rules thats just give you a warning because they are not written for the time constraint. If you cant make the move in this time just give up
@@TheSleepbad "Fair player?" What do you mean by this term? Should I not fight for my rights? Or children do not have the right to complain against bad rulings? The second move was not illegal. I have no clue what are you talking about. It was a legal move made with two hands, this action is illegal, not the move (two illegal moves are a loss immediately). Finally, I do not understand Kovalev, why he was complaining that much in a completely winning position. (I think a warning is a fair decision for playing the first time with both hands). Simple calculation: Rxd8 Qxd8+ Kh7 Bd4 Qxf4+ g3 Qd2+ Kh3 and Black run out of check and is getting mated. The only move is to sacrifice the queen for the bishop.
@@funo8325 "Finally, I do not understand Kovalev, why he was complaining that much in a completely winning position." Because of the principle. If you let small kids play in the tournament, at least make sure they know the rules, then it doesn't turn into the circus. Educate the refs too, so they know FIDE rules. I can live with random people on the internetz not knowing them, but refs at the world championship MUST KNOW the rules. "I think a warning is a fair decision" If chess would be played by the way each player thinks there would be real mess, that's why we have common rules. Too bad not everyone knows them. "The second move was not illegal." It is. Rules 7.5.4 If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered and penalized as if an illegal move. + 7.5.5 After the action taken under Article 7.5.1, 7.5.2, 7.5.3 or 7.5.4 for the first completed illegal move by a player, the arbiter shall give two minutes extra time to his opponent; for the second completed illegal move by the same player the arbiter shall declare the game lost by this player. Qualified ref should've know that and proclaimed the victory to Kovalev right there. That's why Vlad was so frustrated, he had to deal not only with kid, who had no clue about the rules, but with the same ref, two of them actually. Total shitshow of unprofessionalism
The arbiters shouldn't go back on their decision just because someone insists a lot. They decided to give the kid a warning and continue from there after he used both hands, then the opponent insists that he repeats the move and the arbiters just concede after the 3rd time he insists with the argument: "no". Makes it look like the player makes the decisions around there by pressuring the arbiters.
True. But what he's saying is also nothing wrong. The kid cannot be allowed to make a move with one hand and press the clock with another to save the match. 10 second increment is already enough for someone to gain back time from that position. TBH I blame the arbiters for this incident. They should not just give him the warning, when he already was warned about an illegal move minutes before. You can't make every possible mistake once and be forgiven as the type of error was different. Second warning is already where you are defaulted. If the arbiters were adept, they wouldn't even let the game continue after the kid makes the second mistake.
This isn't even top 10 weird from my own tournament play. I hold the all-time record for a king toss in the Adam's Mark Ballroom (250 feet), plus knight, bishop, queen and rook toss, No one batted an eye. It was a bad World Open for me (they all were).
The clock is not FIDE standard. Fide standard stated that the last 1 second should be treated as 1+999 (if the clock treat 0.999 as 0) or 1 as exactly 1 if the clock treat 0.001 as 1.
Article 7.5.4 'If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered and penalized as if an illegal move.' And the chief-arbiter did/does not know that!? Come on FIDE how did you select completely incompetent arbiters?!
Well just on plain reading, he used one hand to make the move (capture the rook with his rook) and the second hand to press the clock, I don't think this satisfies the Article 7.5.4 which says if a player uses two hands to make a single move and pressed the clock.
This looks needlessly pedantic on both sides. The kid should probably just resign at that point, and the opponent should probably allow the game to continue with the warning since the game was pretty much done anyway.
Yea, the grown man had certinly a good atitude to call the arbiter again when the kid had 1 second to do a move and just because he was using the other hand, that would be just one time because he could get flagged, after insisting that he loses because of an illegal move when the rules say that the opponent get 2 minutes, rules are rules but piece of shitty persons are piece of shitty persons aswell
there was a time when slavery was the law in a lot of parts of the world, but "rules are rules" right? i don't disagree with their decision, but not because "rules are rules," because if a rule is stupid, it's a stupid rule, plain and simple. what if your government made a new rule tomorrow that they were going to start a major operation killing innocent people and told you that as a male, you have to report for duty and start killing innocent people for them because that's the rule. would rules be rules, or would you fight the rules?
@@bobbyc2768 you're going way out of topic, I'm afraid. Chess is a game, and as all games it has rules. If you don't accept its rules, even if you may find them absurd, you shall not play the game, or at least do not contest them. That's simple logic.
Surprisingly this is quite easy in higher-level chess, they reset the board, not even a minute before putting it back which doesn't take much to recall, I am close to 1000 rated and I could probably do this, players rated 2000+ would have no difficulty with this and they could easily remember multiple full games off the top of their head.
think the guy just got annoyed they let them redo it just because the arbitrator got rule strict with him starting the clock. I mean to move and hit the clock in a sec requires extreme speed and accuracy. doubt not to many will have that.
One of the many disadvantages of letting your clock run down to one second. It's your problem at that point, and if you can't deal with that, then you rightly lose on time.
There is a reason that loss on time exists. This is one of the scenarios in which you do not want to have 1s left to play. The game was basically already over
I'd say it's different to move a piece with 1 sec left on clock when you are thinking through the moves and the flow of time at the moment it was supposed to to happen as opposed to starting to move with just 1 sec left and then finishing. The one is like a running start the other is like a drag race.
Can someone clarify for me, when is it common practice to touch your opponent's piece (capturing) before you touch your piece. I have never played like that ever. In addition I thought it was a rule use one hand.......everyone plays like that. I was taught and got into the habit of touch and move; that is your piece you touch first to another square and when capturing you use your piece to capture the piece you want to take and hit the clock with the same hand. Am I wrong?
Yes, it is common to take the piece you're going to capture first. With your method it is slightly more difficult to remove the captured piece. If you take the captured piece first from the board and then move your own piece the square has already been vacated. It is easier to place your piece on the vacated square. If you pick up your piece first, move it to the square on which you take your opponent's piece, the piece is still on the board and you get momentarily 2 pieces on the same square. But both methods are fine. Whatever works best for you. Keep in mind if you touch your opponent's piece first, you have to take it. And yes, you do need to use one hand and the same hand to press the clock.
This was comedy. I died laughing for 5 minutes after he knocked the pieces and the arbiters started laughing too as the kid walked away mad. Had to rewatch it bc it was so funny with all the tension. If Im ever sad I will comeback to this video ahah
It is time control 3minutes+2 seconds increment. So Black should always have 2 seconds added to the clock after hitting the clock. Therefore, Black should have AT LEAST TWO SECONDS REMAINING from is previously pressing the clock, especially since white is given 2 minutes additional for Black's illegal move. If an illegal move is made, take it back and replay it, giving the player a warning (and adjust clock for penalty). You cannot be penalized twice on the same move, no matter how many infractions are made on the same move. This entire video essentially showed Black making three infractions on the same move: illegal move (Rxd8, Re8), then two hands, and then knocked over pieces. Knocked over pieces must be corrected while clock runs... However, the incorrect 1 seconds remaining is what caused the hurried situation.
@@soundninja99 making mistakes is perfectly fine. the problem is there is a well known punishment for that 2 hand mistake, he forfeits the game. . arbiters giving him multiple do overs was just stupid. also failing to immediately call that the other player cannot start the clock isn't helping out.
@@odnamsrazor2364 that's an other discussion entirely. This comment and many others in the comment section are bashing the kid, which is extremely toxic. When it comes to restarts, it's up to the arbiters, not the competitors
@@soundninja99 "This comment and many others in the comment section are bashing the kid, which is extremely toxic." No. It´s what´s called "getting it right."
@@aventura8491 criticizing the arbiters for not having control of the situation would be fine. Blaming the friends for being loud is also totally fine. But shitting on a kid for making a mistake isn't "getting it right"
Okay okay, so what is the tournament's rule regarding illegal moves? Do you just get a warning for the first time? Or do you get time reduced from your clock? Or do you just lose the game?
A move with two hands, is not a illegal move, but the opponent gets one minute in blitz (two minutes in rapid or standard)! Fide - rules 7.7.1 and 7.7.2 from 2018.
To anyone who doesn't get it - the kid had to take white rook but had only one second remaining at his clock, at first he took the rook but didn't put his rook in the right square ( here e8 instead of d8, because he probably went really fast ), his opponent call the arbiter and claim illegal move. Then the move has to be played again, the player playing white starts the clock and the kid loses on time, they get up from the board but then the arbiter says that he was the one supposed to start the clock, so they sit back and replay the move again ! except this time the kid makes the move with two hand, which is also illegal ( probably cause he would lose on time making it with one hand only ) at first the arbiter just wants to give the kid a warning, but his opponent insist that he has to make the move with one hand. Finally, they replay the move one last time, and the kid loses on time, not managing to capturing the rook with one second. Not perfect english, hope everyone got it !
Thank you✌️
it was actually good summery
Just a small correction the cheating kid is the one who complained to the Arbiter that he was supposed to hit the clock and then the arbiter lied to the other opponent saying he told them he was supposed to hit the clock when the f****** idiot already walked away from the board. Corruption at its best the Arbiter probably wants to undermine the clock cuz he feels Blitz isn't real chest like classical is and the kid is f****** Street Hustler with his sleight of hand grabbing his opponent rook and putting his on a more advantageous Square.
Kid should have stood his ground on having the warning administered. Appears he was bullied, as were the arbiters.
Kid be like: .. Okay this is how flagging works
If someone make a movie about chess in future, this scene should be included in it for comic relief...
The arbiter stands there like a doofus for 30 seconds and watches as they reset the pieces before he says, “I was supposed to start the clock.”
this is the real BAD THING of this video
Well that’s how it is.
95% of arbiters
It's amazing that the players remembered the right position of every piece when they were asked to re-do it.
That's pretty standard for decent players, and definitely at this level
That’s what I said. I was like, “now they have to stop the footage to see a screen capture of the board…” nope! Lmao!
Ultimately, it's for the arbiter(s) to ensure the position is reset correctly, not the players.
1800fide here. Can recall entire games from memory that I have in 90+30 format no problem, mention to mention a specific position like that not a minute later. It’s really not an issue once you get to be moderately good at chess and the time control is long / match is important
@@technoskin3962 I agree somewhat, but it's very hard for me to remember entire positions and games because I lack photographic memory and even may suffer from aphantasia. That said, thanks to the board notation, I have used the letters and numbers to play entire blindfold games and win against weaker opponents that were looking at the board and pieces; however, it is a serious mental chore for me every time, and remembering the entire game I think I've only done a couple of times. Do you have photographic memory for that to be easier for you, or do you use the same method as me?
2:19 - that's probably the most intense SHH I've ever seen in my life. The eyes man...
Yeah right 😂
Even I quit talking after that shhhh.
@@Harvestersz every human would follow his orders christ alive
Dylan Tobak would be impressed by that shush
Yes even Dr. Evil would have been impressed by that shhh!
Sometimes I feel like chess players are trying to make any social interaction as awkward as possible.
Right you are!
its just bound to be awkward, they are awkward, they have to talk in whispers, they are mad at wood pieces etc xd
They don't have to try.
When the streets come to live chess tournaments, I'll begin watching. I want to see some smack talk and some mental games. Not some ASMR boolshyt.
it's even funnier than that, they are doing it without even trying
The kid knocking down the pieces at the end is comedy gold.
absolutely priceless LOL
Plus this comment is on point! (and made me lol)
Timestamp??
@@pratickbhowmick6409 4:28
It was literally the perfect end to all the strangeness.
The guy on the left is Kovalev who waited Magnus for 7 minutes to come to the board))
2:30 of playing time
And got wrecked, karma
This isnt that guy who broke Niemman's King?
@@MeetSnorto why it's karma? He also asked the arbiter to wait, but they didn't accept
@@PierReVesper And they started the clock because MC didnt arrive in time (maybe waited 5min, i dont know what are the rules), so not only waiting 2min
The player that complained about the young boy playing with one hand and pressing the clock with the other is correct. This is a very clear rule and it is part of competitive chess.
he still comes off as an asshole.
True, yet - it also is illegal to start the clock on your own, and just like an illegal move the opponent get's additional time. Problem would have been solved. Poor handling of the situation when a kid is involved. White seems like a bully.
I agree you can not use two hands, the hand you use to move or take the piece is the hand you must use to hit the clock with!
And then they laughed when the kid lost, what a couple of buffoons.
@@waschkarte3989 White is not a bully. They had reached a position where Black had one second on his clock and it was his turn.
On this turn, he has to make his move completely with all pieces in their proper spots, and press the clock, and do it all with one hand only. The boy didn't do that task. The first time he tried it (in the original game), he didn't place the pieces in the right spots. The second time he tried it, he used two hands instead of one, to save precious time. When he was finally asked to do it with one hand and do it right, he knocked pieces over. All this demonstrates that he should've rightly lost on time in the original game.
If you're down to one second in your game, you have to deal with that first. You don't get a pass.
All White was trying to do was recreate the original situation exactly, down to its last detail. That's only fair.
So much tension built up then it ends like a comedy movie at 4:30 , even the arbiters couldn’t help but laugh.
Kkk lol.i really laughed hard at that
Karma is a bitch
it's not funny though. the whole incident was pure torture for both players. only fun had the arbiters.
@@akawojo It is quite funny actually - an insufferable and dishonest kid gets taught a lesson early in life. Better know what karma is sooner rather than later.
hahahahahahahhahah
If you leave yourself with only one second to make a move, then this sort of scenario can easily happen. Bizarre things become the norm in a time scramble. I watched a game where a player had a few seconds to make the time control. He picked up his rook, and swung it over to the other side of the board, and it slipped out of his hand onto the floor. He picked it up just in time, and put in onto an adjacent square than he'd intended, which was a game losing move. Use your time wisely.
excelente explicación
It blitz you don't get more time. So the situation is different. I look at the kid's face and it seems to be that he knew he lost, he was ready to get ready for the next game, but is frustrated with all these adults forcing him to do all this weird s***** over and over.
@@danielch6662 He could have just shaked hands. I feel kid is stupid it is clearly seen he is going to lose the match 1 sec to make move, moreover so many illegal moves and arbiter should get standing ovation for the circus he has created good for content.
2:17 I liked it how he shushed the kid away
lol he really stared him down
@@jebbush3130 yeah, like how do you give illegal advise to someone who has 1 second to take a rook and tap on the clock(?)
So soo funny. Told him like being back at school 😅🤣
Disrespectful kids, I'm glad he's doing his part putting them in their place.
the kid who got shushed appears in his own controversial video here
ruclips.net/video/OUfUwXo8NEs/видео.html&ab_channel=ChessBaseIndia
New Challenge:
¶Take a rook with a rook
¶Using one hand
¶1 second in the clock
¶Press the clock as faster as you can without messing the pieces up
Rules are rules. If you can't do it, you lose. Simple as that.
Online chess with premoves: laughing in the corner 😅
@@technicaltips2891 that's why otb chess and online chess are separeted
Arbiter was talking to the kid...I'm Morpheus...I'm looking for you... Neo...
@@Dario_Salvi nobody, not even the kid, are saying that the kid should have won. Everyone accepts that the kid lost and the kid accepted that he lost eay before all of us. But all of these people calling him a cheater are idiots. Believe it or not, human beings are not perfect and these things happen when we only have one second to think. If this kid is a cheater, then so is Magnus Carlsen, Hikaru, Fabiano, Wesley So, and any other ranked chess player because they have all played illegal moves at some point.
What makes it even more funny is that Rxd8 is a terrible move because it loses to Qxd8+ followed by Bd4 threatening checkmate (as also pointed out by Adhiban). Very easy to spot for these players if they're not under time pressure. So by the time Uskov had to repeat his move Rxd8 everybody already knew that he would lose no matter if he would manage to execute the move in one second or not.
Another fun fact: When they reassemble the pieces at 2:08 Uskov confidently puts his king on h7 which would be a safer square, then at 2:20 Kovalev puts it on g8 where it actually was.
if Bd4 there is Qxf4+
That's a gold observation!!
@@antuamigo8905 But then 2. g3 Qd2+ (Qf2+ is not playable due to Bxf2) 3. Kh3! wins
Yeah I think here the Kid really outed himself.
Sorry but if there is one thing you don't forget it's where your King was in a critical position because you always have to look for checks and you will always keep them in mind.
I was pretty neutral but with that observation we know that the Kid tried to cheat at least here.
At least that's unbelievably unlikely. He would have had to have a complete mindslip. A very convenient Mindslip.
Edit: Now I watched a second further and the Kid tried to cheat again. Moving with one hand a pressing clock with the other one is an extremely obvious rule that even beginners are Immediately taught on their very first day.
Breaking this rule will make any chess player furious because it gives a clear advantage and every chess player obviously knows it.
The Kid tried to cheat multiple times in a row here. He is a kid so it's fine but just let that be clear.
Hahah I missed that. What a sneaky bastard! And the other player was like "No, you're not doing this kid. The king goes HERE".
After allllll that, the arbiter starts dying laughing after its over.. I love it, cuz no one else laughed, especially the players who were pissed! It almost felt like a moment on "The Office"... hahahah
did didnt it? was hilarious when the kid knocked over the pieces
Laughing at the end , total disrespect...it is not a laughing matter.
It is a total laughing matter. Its hilarious! @@nevillerobert318
@@nevillerobert318oh, come on. Have a laugh in tough moments. It’s called levity. Or continue life with a stick up your butt. Your choice
I think it’s pretty hilarious
Pause it exactly at 1:00 and the facial expressions of everyone in the scene sums up the situation perfectly.
The expressions on all the faces of the people in the crowd too!
I hope this comment will get all the attention it deserves :D
gold
thanks for this post
The kid: 😐
Lol adhiban always comes to enjoy these controversial funny moments he is too funny guy ..
@@jire9831 lol😂
This isn't chess; it's prestidigitation !! It's a game. It's part of the rules. The younger players lost on time . Full stop. And thank you, Elu, for an excellent summary.
While resetting the board around 2:00 the kid deliberately puts his king on h7 ( to avoid checkmate ) and Kovalev had to put it on g8 to correct the position !?
Yea the kid is a sore loser
LOL
there was no checkmate, black was winning.
Black has extra pawn, but position doesn’t look very promising.
There is no immediate win for white. A lot might happen.
@@spirou2012 black was winning? Mate white was winning a knight check closely
So glad this was captured on video. So comical and the Russian accents make it so much better.
Adhiban was having fun...
Lol
4:30 was the funniest thing I have ever seen in chess!
You're right! I had to see it several times. 😄😄😄 Kinda feel bad for the kid though.
@@Arctic_Dude if you think it was the funniest you clearly haven't seen this ruclips.net/video/e1ftkDt11Rw/видео.html
Lol
the arbiters laugh was pretty good lol nothing you can do there
@@251rmartin ruclips.net/user/shortsAy68ChROc_g
This is the third video of issues with the kids in the tournaments. This kid was apparently screaming behind towards another game.
Prodigies. He's 2400. The kid would cream most of us in his sleep.
Both Russian kids lol
@@danielch6662 lol prodigy without common sense....we have hundreds of prodigies like them but with common sense
Nerd Alert !
@@danielch6662 Why did you go with cream? That just sounds wrong
The kid should have received first warning when he misplaced his rook and second warning and DSQ when he played with 2 hands. That is it........
He did. But he still has to play his move and do it right.
Correction to my post. I just read that the rules dictate the boy should've been disqualified and that's that. They shouldn't have had to recreate the original situation just for the boy.
I was watching the stream this kid was causing problems with almost every player. He needs to be uninvited until he matures/learns.
His official punishment was, “Try again but don’t cheat for the THIRD time.” Disqualification makes more sense.
In Blitz mode there is no second ilegal move.I. The first one illegal move and You Lost the Game .
I think getting really good at chess is bad for ones mental health.
i cant even begin to imagine the Tetris Effect going on in their heads all the time.
@@AysarAburrub Tetris effect?
@@KurtG85 its when you put way too much time doing something repetitive that your brain start to dream and hallucinate about it
That applies to anything you spend a long time practicing. It sort of depends on the person also. Some people can handle it, others can't.
"The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life."
- Paul Morphy
These chess people are serious af. Reminds me of pit bosses in a casino
Bro they are worse. I'm a blackjack/roullete dealer and that arbiter that was saying "shhh" around 2:17 is way more horrifying than my pit bosses 😂😭
Or 40k tournament players
@Alex and it wasn't intended as a joke kid
@Alex you must be as serious as the arbiters eh?
Well it’s professional tournament
That other boy defending his friend and becoming a collateral damage in the process lol. Reminds me of my school days.
That "other boy" appears in his own controversial video here
ruclips.net/video/OUfUwXo8NEs/видео.html&ab_channel=ChessBaseIndia
That’s the part I don’t miss about playing competitive chess 😂😂😂
No doubt, people trying to break rules to get an advantage is very annoying.
3:45 is very weird. The ref changes his mind after Kovalev complains. It's like he's improvising. What is the rule? Should a player be forced to redo a move that he's played with both hands or not?
That's the question exactly 💯
I think the arbiter was right at the beginning- you can not move a piece and press the clock with different hand, but it is not an illegal MOVE on the chessboard. Therefore it results in a warning but the game should continue and if he were to do it again he loses automatically. For some reason he changed his mind because of that guy's arguing which is very unprofessional and just plain stupid.
@@matta5749 a warning means that if you do it again you lose automatically.
@@BakedFishy but the move was already played. It is like get out of jail card. You can break the rules to keep playing and nothing will happen to you.
But the guy on the left was irritating. I would just resign as this kid, instead of taking part in this bizarre drama.
I think it was correct for the ref to change his mind because maybe if you did it in the middle of a match then it doesn't matter as much but if you did it on the final second at a crucial moment then that really does matter. It's like in tennis if you lose a point in the middle of the game unfairly then it wouldn't matter as much but if that point was match point then no you have to play fairly
It's not the chess play that is weird... this is what I call wtf moment. @ :23 where the guy just go in front of another guy and block his view like he doesn't exist.
Lmao
I go fucking wild when someone subconsciously thinks they're more important
Definitely the weirdest guy
This always happens to me at concerts cause I'm small
@@laurasanchez7105 just grow I guess?
My method is to not go to concerts :)
You're not allowed to play with two hands in chess. So @2:37 he has one hand on the piece and one hand on the clock. So if he takes the rook with his right he must punch the clock w his right hand. This is well-known rule that every blitz player knows. Furthermore if you knock down pieces you must set them up before hitting the clock. In the end I guess he has like 1 second on the clock so he loses if he plays correctly.
unless your name is Hikaru Nakamura
He did good but because it was not a illegal but a warning arbitor shoud have given him the warning and move should be considered
@@niichan5635 He already made an illegal move though! and he had 1 second on the clock! What a dirty way to play chess and no wonder this is not a fan sport like more popular ones.
Technically, you can play with two hands if you use one Hand to capture then use the other hand to remove the captured piece from the board while the capturing hand goes for that clock 😅😅
@@cooloutac illegal move in time scramble can happen. in the recent us championship irina krush made illegal move and arbiter gave her opponent additional time. i didn't see any allegations that she is cheating or something like that. your treatment of this whole situation is quite overdramatic.
it is clear that he just misrepresented the board
2:51 "Playing with two hands is not an illegal move", meanwhile in the Laws of Chess:
"7.5.4
If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of
castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered
and penalised as if an illegal move."
Those arbiters are a joke for not knowing the rules and for laughing at the end 🤦♂.
Uskov, 12 years, is doing very good at the tournament. Ahead of names likes Van Forest, Harikrishna, Niemman and so on.
Ahead??? Van Forset and Uskov - 7, loser niemman -6
@@Andy_Tucker I didn't see how it ended. What a said was true at that time.
Niemman cheting with device under his skin ofc
@@joaosantos3023 more like in his ass
Sure....sure....
I feel sorry for everyone involved, especially for everyone who had to watch this.
To me the most weird incident was when Sam Sevian took Niemann's king and started fiddling with it, really weird, I guess it was US championship.
Also, he broke the top off by accident. It was funny. :D
@2:50 - The arbiter when he says 'playing with two hands is not an illegal move' is the cause of this confusion.
If all players could do this, each player will have one hand on the piece to move and the other hand on top of the stop clock at all times during the match and then clock will never run out, especially with a two second increment per move during blitz.
The arbiter found it to be quite funny too. Also, he has a great singing voice. He sang a couple of songs for the Norwegian TV journalist. Great guy. The journalist too!
What's his name?
@@funtimefunny2153 no idea, but he's from Cyprus, I think.
Is there a video of him singing for the norwegian journalist?
@@FrejrNA it's all in the NRK archives. But, was it day one, day two, three or...if I can recall - I will tell you.
You have to give them credit for remembering every piece on the board, that is impressive! Probably nothing for these guys though.
no you don't have to. It's a electronic board which keeps the track of the game
@@papasnejk87no they did remember it.
I also always thought I couldn't really do it but then I was asked to rebuild the position when I was verbally analysing after a game and it's actually really easy.
@@sudhramjutun5694 actually the kid on the right conveniently "forgot" where a few of his pieces were and tried to arrange the board wrong before the other guy fixed it.
This is one of the videos we will see again in 2 years and can't believe it has more than one mil. views.
Player with white actually understands the fine details of chess rules very well. Sometimes, the rules are so complicated (unbelievable, I know) that not even the arbiters know how to best handle the situation.
Hikaru be like: I'm gonna show this Big kid how flagging from this position works..😆
I hope we can have integrity in chess of all things. That young kid knew he lost, more than once. No two hands and no illegal moves. Touch move etc. These are THE rules. He should have resigned
I love that the arbiter says 'I was supposed to press the clock' but when you watch it back he has no intention of pressing it.
That has nothing to do. The player should wait. But it seems that the older player also doesn't kbow the rules.
lol so true
@@oblio9147 Uhm... "I touch. You press. Then you have to play," he says, less than a second before the older player TOUCHES, then PRESSES...
What dimension am I living in that no one else is living in, where it's like I'm the only one who sees the truth?
Y'all need to clean your ears, or I need to get my head checked.
Why did the kid press the clock without doing a move? That should have given him another warning😂
it should be viral in few months like any other good video this is gold
Yup. Last good one was when the Dude fell of his chair.
Actually, watching it in 0.25x you can ensure that there was much less than 1 second on the clock somehow, after arbiter pressed the button it has to be four seconds on 0.25 but it was not much than 1.5
What? How can you even tell? You’re watching a modified slow motion (that’s what 0.25x speed is) and also have no idea what the FPS used was (which is what actually matters). At this small level of measurement (splitsecond) you need to capture the footage in slow motion to have a true objective measure. Otherwise you can’t know the exact time remaining: capturing something in slow motion is different from merely replaying something in slow motion.
Nope. If it's first/one time try, the kid is totally wouldnt make that flash move
peoples eye will register about a quarter of a sec with really good eyesight and about another quarter to react by the time your hands start moving more than half a sec will be gone.
If you watch the first retry in slow motion it is quite interesting. The kid has 1 second put on his clock, and his opponent starts his clock, the clock ticks to zero almost immediately certainly way less than one second (6 frames in the video if you want to count them). Not sure if it is the way the clocks are designed, but if you are flagged when it shows zero then the kid was definitely not getting the full one second to play the move.
Also was it correct to reset his clock to one second, presumably that was the time he had after the very first illegal move, should they reset to that or the time he had before making that illegal move, which was presumably more than one second?
Also interestingly the final attempt to make the move the kid actually got about 3 times as much time to make the move compared to the first try when his opponent pressed the button (though still less than one second it seems). Not sure if this is because the clock takes longer to start from the button the arbiter pressed vs the opponent's button, but definitely very different length of time for it to click to zero. Given this is a single video of an arbiter putting one second on the clock twice, but ending up with very different lengths of time for that move I think there should be a question asked abut whether the arbiters understand how the clocks work and how to set them.
Slow motion at 2:36 clearly showed the boy pressed the clock while still not finishing the moves. Is why the two hand rules is important.
Yes. Otherwise, everybody would just have one finger hovering over the clock all the time.
It proves that it is impossible to compete the capture with 1 second on the clock. HOWEVER, he completed that move earlier before the camera started recording.
This suggests that he actually had more than 1s remaining originally. That was why he could complete the move the first time. Even though he screwed up and left his room in the wrong place because of the rush.
He had 1s AFTER the fumbled move. When the arbiter asked how much time was remaining, Kovalev said "one second" and Uskov (the kid) did not dispute it. The arbiter then proceeded to set the clock to one second, and told Uskov to try to do it again with him watching.
The arbiter set the wrong time on the clock. If they were to replay that move, the clock should have been set back further, to how much time Uskov had the moment Kovalev press the button on his clock. I'm not sure anybody knew what that was.
But that would still have been the wrong thing to do. The correct thing would be to move the rook in the wrong place to where it should be, and penalised Uskov. That would be either a warning or forfeiture of the game for making an illegal move, depending on the rules in effect in this tournament. Continue with 1 second on Uskov's clock, with Kovalev to move.
They had reached a position where Black had one second on his clock and it was his turn.
On this turn, he has to make his move completely with all pieces in their proper spots, and press the clock, and do it all with one hand only. The boy didn't do that task. The first time he tried it (in the original game), he didn't place the pieces in the right spots. The second time he tried it, he used two hands instead of one, to save precious time. When he was finally asked to do it with one hand and do it right, he knocked pieces over. All this demonstrates that he should've rightly lost on time in the original game.
If you're down to one second in your game, you have to deal with that first. You don't get a pass.
All White was trying to do was recreate the original situation exactly, down to its last detail. That's only fair.
You can even see the frustration in White's voice. He asks for the original situation and for Black to do the original task with one second, as he was supposed to. If in a game you manage to get your opponent's clock down to one second, it's not fair to have that accomplishment taken away from you. White just wanted those circumstances reinstated, and we play from there.
In the end White got it, and won on time fair and square.
In the end they even gave the kid everything he needed to play on. The original time he had left, and the right to move. It's just that this time they insisted he do it with one hand, and place all pieces correctly before pressing the clock. These are just normal rules that apply to everyone. And you don't get multiple attempts to get this done. You get one. He got one. And he didn't do it. So he lost on time. This is a fair outcome.
Thanks captain obvious
@@leenb7560 If it were so obvious to everybody as you so quaintly put it, then why are there plenty of people arguing on it? Apparently it wasn't obvious enough to everybody here, regardless of whether we know it's true or not.
"You can even see the frustration in White's voice."
Because by the rules, after move with two hands ref should've end the game. Rules 7.5.4+7.5.5. Vlad was upset that ref at the world cup don't know FIDE rules. He tried to explain them, but this people were smoking smth, especially the ref who told him to "press the clock", then fell sleep for two minutes, while they cleared the board, then decided he had to press the clock himself.
The two handed move was made because the kid was 12, and all the adults around him were telling him to make the move in 1s. He's a kid. He tried to do what the adult told him to. If it was me, I would just sit there and look at them in the eye. _Are you kidding me? What is the point of this_ ? Just let the clock run out. There isn't even enough time to offer to resign.
In actual fact, he originally had MORE than 1s. The evidence of this is that he completed the move the first time, even though his rook ended up in the wrong place in his rush. He had 1s AFTER the fumbled move.
The arbiter clearly screwed up. The rook ending up in the wrong square is clearly an illegal move. That results in a either forfeit or a warning. If it is a warning, you place the rook where it should be, set Uskov's clock to 1 second, and Kovalev gets to move next.
If you want Uskov to re-do his move, then you need to set the clock further back, to however much time he had the moment Kovalev pressed HIS clock in the previous move. But I doubt anybody knows what that was.
In any case, calling for a re-enactment is just crazy. In no universe, is there a situation where that is the correct remedy.
@@danielch6662 Nah, he knew it was impossible and said so himself just before his third attempt. He knew the position he was in and was trying to work around it by not following the rules. In a world class tournament and he has to play by the same rules as everyone else. No slack here.
The fact that they remembered where the pieces were to reset it up amazes me
Some grand masters remember games they played years ago
That's actually pretty normal for most players that play regularly. Harder is playing a game entirely in your head.
Almost all elite players can remember the positions of all the pieces and every move of a game they played recently. Some can remember the moves and positions years after the game.
Not flexing at all but being a 1750 rated guy, it is very easy to setup the board of the match I played recently. These guys are professionals and can play on 3 board simultaneously blindfolded and make a joke out of a players like us
They sure made this chess tournament interesting, watched more of it than that world cup so far
Did the arbiter actually say using 2 hands is not illegal? 2:44 They don't even know the rules! Kovalev had to explain it to them! What an absolute joke!
This is so stressful to watch I ain't gonna lie lmao
Adhiban laughing in the background is making me smile everytime 😅🤣
I love the arbiter laugh at him in end. So savage 😂
The last laugh was with the arbitars and both players were real pissed.
"it's impossible" 03:30 wow he can speak english now
He took his rook and placed the piece he used to take it on the wrong spot
So the queen couldn't recapture the rook 😁🤣
1. kid took rook but replaced his on the wrong square
arbiter called
2. blonde guy started the clock when arbiter should have
they make them replay the move
3. kid used 2 hands
replay move again
4. kid loses on time
Also another player came up to blonde guy and told him how to win the position
@@lorcanoconnor6274 he just explained what he should and how time would be added
@@lorcanoconnor6274 What are you talking about? Kovalev was already winning. He didn't need anybody's help.
@@hypercubemaster2729Adhiban came up to him and said “you know you are winning right?”, and said some actual moves. The game is still in progress, that’s definitely not ok
@@hypercubemaster2729 Really? If so, why he was whining whole the video? If he knew how to win, he would allow the kid to continue playing
wow still they know all the positions..
The move with two hands is just a warning the first time and then the arbiter can decide the appropriate punishment (usually adding 2mins to the opponents clock but if it continues he can even disqualify him). The kid did not have to replay the move, but in this case there is an issue because nobody can make a move and press the clock with one hand in one second. So by playing with two hands the boy avoids the loss. I believe that here the arbiter is correct to change his mind and force the replay of the move. That's why we have human arbiters and not computers, to be able to judge according to the situation.
Only thing I have a problem with is that the arbiter is not quick to think on his feet:
1) Initially he accepts the loss but then realizes (correctly in my opinion) he was not the one to press the clock so the players are forced to setup the position again. When you don't have a scoresheet it's not easy to setup a position from scratch and if the boy insisted that he had an extra piece somewhere things would escalate.
2) He changes his mind and forces the kid to replay the position with one hand (again correctly in my opinion), but only after his opponent strongly insisted. That seems like taking sides, although in reality his opinion was swayed by the argument.
2:05 they destroy the board... And then redo it exactly like they have a photogenic memory ✌✌
Everything has gone the right way in the end.
I thought I was half decent at chess when I was a kid, but when they just set that board back up exactly the way it was… that blew my mind haha
That advertisement at the end was as unexpected and random as the content of the video.
There is a video of Kasparov in which he takes less than a second every time he makes a move and press the button.
It's called something like "Kasparov didnt let his clock go down from 5 seconds"
This is the «i would prefer if you would be quiet» guy of chess games
On another note their ability to recreate the position from after after they reset the pieces from a blitz game is impressive.
Exactly bruh! 😮 I was thinking that
Yes but the Kid purposely got it wrong in hopes nobody would notice.
He put his King on a much safer Square.
If there is one piece you remember the position of its your king bc you always check for checks and have them in mind at all times.
So the Kid tried to cheat at least two, more likely three times in a row.
What's amazing is that they put the pieces exactly back to the way it ended. Unusual brilliance.
Chess players of this level can recount every move of a game they played a decade ago.
I think it was Hikaru that said that any GM, can play like 4 games blind folded simultaneously.
@@arielsavala5360 not every 2400+ rated player has a great chess memory, but it's true that remembering the position of a game they were just playing is childishly easy. people are impressed by it and things like blindfold, but it's so elementary compared to their chess understanding and skill. it's like being impressed that lebron james can jump high enough to dunk a basketball. it's such an odd ability to single out and focus on considering how easy it is.
@@zfeazcesd1047. You are totally right. Same for classical pianist. People are always impressed that I know the whole piece by heart, even though this is least impressive part of the whole performance and comes automatically with practicing the piece. But I also understand that as a non-experts the memorizing skill or being able to play blindfolded is one of the few abilities that a non-expert can actually see and hence be impressed with. Computing 100 of variants in your mind to decide to push a pawn at the edge might be more impressive but for a non-expert it looks like someone thought for a while and just pushed a pawn, which everyone can do.
But knowing that playing blindfolded is just a basic skill for a master player make chess masters even more impressive.
This is extremely basic to anyone with any semblence of an aptitude in chess.
It is sad how many people who do not know rules are commenting. Very poor decisions by arbiters. Firstly, Kovalev starting the clock and later arbiters realized that Kovalev should have not. Secondly, it is true that the player cannot play with both hands, it is illegal, but the penalty for this behavior is not going back to the previous position and letting him to do the move again (in normal circumstances with more time it would be pure nonsense). I don't understand at all why they listened to Kovalev. Unfortunately, Black wasn't experienced enough to protest against it.
If you are a fair Player you should not complain about this ruling as the young kid. Because you made a illegal move and after that you doing another one just to outplay the rules thats just give you a warning because they are not written for the time constraint. If you cant make the move in this time just give up
I think boy couldn't protest because he doesn't know English
@@TheSleepbad "Fair player?" What do you mean by this term? Should I not fight for my rights? Or children do not have the right to complain against bad rulings?
The second move was not illegal. I have no clue what are you talking about. It was a legal move made with two hands, this action is illegal, not the move (two illegal moves are a loss immediately).
Finally, I do not understand Kovalev, why he was complaining that much in a completely winning position. (I think a warning is a fair decision for playing the first time with both hands). Simple calculation: Rxd8 Qxd8+ Kh7 Bd4 Qxf4+ g3 Qd2+ Kh3 and Black run out of check and is getting mated. The only move is to sacrifice the queen for the bishop.
What an ironic comment.
@@funo8325 "Finally, I do not understand Kovalev, why he was complaining that much in a completely winning position."
Because of the principle. If you let small kids play in the tournament, at least make sure they know the rules, then it doesn't turn into the circus. Educate the refs too, so they know FIDE rules. I can live with random people on the internetz not knowing them, but refs at the world championship MUST KNOW the rules.
"I think a warning is a fair decision"
If chess would be played by the way each player thinks there would be real mess, that's why we have common rules. Too bad not everyone knows them.
"The second move was not illegal."
It is.
Rules 7.5.4
If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered and penalized as if an illegal move.
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7.5.5
After the action taken under Article 7.5.1, 7.5.2, 7.5.3 or 7.5.4 for the first completed illegal move by a player, the arbiter shall give two minutes extra time to his opponent; for the second completed illegal move by the same player the arbiter shall declare the game lost by this player.
Qualified ref should've know that and proclaimed the victory to Kovalev right there. That's why Vlad was so frustrated, he had to deal not only with kid, who had no clue about the rules, but with the same ref, two of them actually. Total shitshow of unprofessionalism
2:40 ahah the kid's excuse is like "how can I do it in one second?!"
The arbiters shouldn't go back on their decision just because someone insists a lot. They decided to give the kid a warning and continue from there after he used both hands, then the opponent insists that he repeats the move and the arbiters just concede after the 3rd time he insists with the argument: "no". Makes it look like the player makes the decisions around there by pressuring the arbiters.
True. But what he's saying is also nothing wrong. The kid cannot be allowed to make a move with one hand and press the clock with another to save the match. 10 second increment is already enough for someone to gain back time from that position.
TBH I blame the arbiters for this incident. They should not just give him the warning, when he already was warned about an illegal move minutes before. You can't make every possible mistake once and be forgiven as the type of error was different. Second warning is already where you are defaulted. If the arbiters were adept, they wouldn't even let the game continue after the kid makes the second mistake.
Adhiban is like: Entertainment 😅😃
I'm like that white hair uncle...just standing... nothing to do with situation
This isn't even top 10 weird from my own tournament play. I hold the all-time record for a king toss in the Adam's Mark Ballroom (250 feet), plus knight, bishop, queen and rook toss, No one batted an eye. It was a bad World Open for me (they all were).
The clock is not FIDE standard. Fide standard stated that the last 1 second should be treated as 1+999 (if the clock treat 0.999 as 0) or 1 as exactly 1 if the clock treat 0.001 as 1.
Article 7.5.4 'If a player uses two hands to make a single move (for example in case of
castling, capturing or promotion) and pressed the clock, it shall be considered
and penalized as if an illegal move.'
And the chief-arbiter did/does not know that!? Come on FIDE how did you select completely incompetent arbiters?!
Well this is the first time I've ever thought about the situation of playing with two hands which means I hadn't thought it was even illegal. 😶🌫
Well just on plain reading, he used one hand to make the move (capture the rook with his rook) and the second hand to press the clock, I don't think this satisfies the Article 7.5.4 which says if a player uses two hands to make a single move and pressed the clock.
that's the most scary paper guy on the side. thank you for sharing this guy
This looks needlessly pedantic on both sides. The kid should probably just resign at that point, and the opponent should probably allow the game to continue with the warning since the game was pretty much done anyway.
Mark my word. This video will cross millions of views 😂
Bruh when you got like 2 seconds left and the opponent like 2 minutes , you know you have already lost the game.
If the arbiter said "the game will start when I press the clock," as he claimed at 1:55 , I sure couldn't hear it.
Rules are rules, you like it or not.
Yea, the grown man had certinly a good atitude to call the arbiter again when the kid had 1 second to do a move and just because he was using the other hand, that would be just one time because he could get flagged, after insisting that he loses because of an illegal move when the rules say that the opponent get 2 minutes, rules are rules but piece of shitty persons are piece of shitty persons aswell
Sure, whites were right
there was a time when slavery was the law in a lot of parts of the world, but "rules are rules" right? i don't disagree with their decision, but not because "rules are rules," because if a rule is stupid, it's a stupid rule, plain and simple. what if your government made a new rule tomorrow that they were going to start a major operation killing innocent people and told you that as a male, you have to report for duty and start killing innocent people for them because that's the rule. would rules be rules, or would you fight the rules?
@@bobbyc2768 you're going way out of topic, I'm afraid. Chess is a game, and as all games it has rules. If you don't accept its rules, even if you may find them absurd, you shall not play the game, or at least do not contest them. That's simple logic.
@@bobbyc2768 moderator please
Artem Uskov hits the clock without ending his move.
What I find impressive is them putting the pieces back to where they were to restart the game… after they cleared the board. Wow
Surprisingly this is quite easy in higher-level chess, they reset the board, not even a minute before putting it back which doesn't take much to recall, I am close to 1000 rated and I could probably do this, players rated 2000+ would have no difficulty with this and they could easily remember multiple full games off the top of their head.
@@Haylo_no you don't remember the position of your last game
if you are over 1700-1800 you can do that easily
the little guy was also wrong because he didn't conclude his movement after pressing the clock
That's why they should just play Chess digitally or on digital board no worry of illegal moves and timer.
One question? HTF he has 1 sec, when there is +2 increment?
Why clock wasnt at time before wrong move?
think the guy just got annoyed they let them redo it just because the arbitrator got rule strict with him starting the clock. I mean to move and hit the clock in a sec requires extreme speed and accuracy. doubt not to many will have that.
One of the many disadvantages of letting your clock run down to one second. It's your problem at that point, and if you can't deal with that, then you rightly lose on time.
There is a reason that loss on time exists. This is one of the scenarios in which you do not want to have 1s left to play. The game was basically already over
I could do it
I'd say it's different to move a piece with 1 sec left on clock when you are thinking through the moves and the flow of time at the moment it was supposed to to happen as opposed to starting to move with just 1 sec left and then finishing. The one is like a running start the other is like a drag race.
Especially if you are trying to take a piece in the process. I doubt anyone can do that with one second.
I can't believe the amateurism of the arbiters at this level of chess.
That's because they are amateurs.
@@eljanrimsa5843 Total amateurs ! Don't have a clue 🤣😁
Can someone clarify for me, when is it common practice to touch your opponent's piece (capturing) before you touch your piece. I have never played like that ever. In addition I thought it was a rule use one hand.......everyone plays like that. I was taught and got into the habit of touch and move; that is your piece you touch first to another square and when capturing you use your piece to capture the piece you want to take and hit the clock with the same hand. Am I wrong?
Yes, it is common to take the piece you're going to capture first. With your method it is slightly more difficult to remove the captured piece.
If you take the captured piece first from the board and then move your own piece the square has already been vacated. It is easier to place your piece on the vacated square.
If you pick up your piece first, move it to the square on which you take your opponent's piece, the piece is still on the board and you get momentarily 2 pieces on the same square.
But both methods are fine. Whatever works best for you. Keep in mind if you touch your opponent's piece first, you have to take it.
And yes, you do need to use one hand and the same hand to press the clock.
What is the point of going through all of this if your not going to put enough time on the clock to physically make the move? Why not 2 seconds?
Nothing can top when Sam took Hans’ king lol
Professional chess looks like a really serious activity.... like any other professional sport, such as tennis, F1 motor racing, and amateur golf.
The way kept the pieces 2:24 🤐😵😵😵
This was comedy. I died laughing for 5 minutes after he knocked the pieces and the arbiters started laughing too as the kid walked away mad. Had to rewatch it bc it was so funny with all the tension. If Im ever sad I will comeback to this video ahah
@@ww3662 I think I might have laughed for a little more 🤣
Dont judge me ahah, I didnt expect that ending!
@@tiagolimao1639 you laughed even longer now 🤣🤣🤣
@@charles5553 I sure did 🤣🤣
It is time control 3minutes+2 seconds increment. So Black should always have 2 seconds added to the clock after hitting the clock. Therefore, Black should have AT LEAST TWO SECONDS REMAINING from is previously pressing the clock, especially since white is given 2 minutes additional for Black's illegal move.
If an illegal move is made, take it back and replay it, giving the player a warning (and adjust clock for penalty).
You cannot be penalized twice on the same move, no matter how many infractions are made on the same move.
This entire video essentially showed Black making three infractions on the same move: illegal move (Rxd8, Re8), then two hands, and then knocked over pieces.
Knocked over pieces must be corrected while clock runs...
However, the incorrect 1 seconds remaining is what caused the hurried situation.
How did the little guy get that far in chess without knowing you cannot use both hands?
He knew, but was in time pressure + probably feeling other pressures. Making mistakes is perfectly fine
@@soundninja99
making mistakes is perfectly fine. the problem is there is a well known punishment for that 2 hand mistake, he forfeits the game.
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arbiters giving him multiple do overs was just stupid. also failing to immediately call that the other player cannot start the clock isn't helping out.
@@odnamsrazor2364 that's an other discussion entirely. This comment and many others in the comment section are bashing the kid, which is extremely toxic. When it comes to restarts, it's up to the arbiters, not the competitors
@@soundninja99 "This comment and many others in the comment section are bashing the kid, which is extremely toxic." No. It´s what´s called "getting it right."
@@aventura8491 criticizing the arbiters for not having control of the situation would be fine. Blaming the friends for being loud is also totally fine. But shitting on a kid for making a mistake isn't "getting it right"
Okay okay, so what is the tournament's rule regarding illegal moves? Do you just get a warning for the first time? Or do you get time reduced from your clock? Or do you just lose the game?
A move with two hands, is not a illegal move, but the opponent gets one minute in blitz (two minutes in rapid or standard)! Fide - rules 7.7.1 and 7.7.2 from 2018.
@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru I know! I am a national Arbiter (NA - [NSR]) in Germany.
The ending looks like a comedy movie :D
the kid was too gentle not saying anything. If he was more experienced he could easily turn things in his favour
By convincing the arbiters to let him do illegal stuff?
His main issue was to end up with 1 second. Amirite?
@@nft3 he didn’t have to convince anyone. The arbiters already decided for the warning and then Kovalev prevailed showing some good debating skills
He was doing illegal shit, tf you mean??
@@massibotta yeah, so he would have to convince them back.