Running down the stairs instead of jumping over the fountain so the mobs have to go around. Seasoned wow veterans with many raiding hc 60s playing with first timers clicking wildly as only healer in group. Love it.
25:50 ooooooohhhh she was wanding the plainstrider and then LEFT clicked the zebra running to check what it was and when you do that the wand auto switches over. I've done this before in dungeons with hunters too
@@KJab21512 has nothing to do with swearing or not, it has all to do with either sudden silence, or the most annoying beep ever. It just makes everything incoherent
@KJab21512 it's just jarring when the audio completely cuts out over and over like that. Especially when there are people talking in addition to them you would like to hear from.
The Moon situation is crazy, the mages could've done more but everyone could've survived this situation regardless. The comm was made to run, Julia ran the wrong direction, no cd's, Jay went back to help and died for it. Brutal situation that wasn't necessary, but pinning the blame on Moon solely is wild You can't roast half the players for being bad or playing bad and let the rest slide
@@Galastin dude u dont need imp blizzard to do anything with two mages u can literally SPAMM frostnovas, they can basicly perma cc all the melees .. both have also coldsnap ..cone of cold .. who cares if he had imp blizzard lol is swear the ppl commenting on yt are all bots.
First clip isn't bad luck. It was so avoidable if they just cleared all the packs. I don't get why people want to save 1 minute by skipping a pack, considering they have spent days leveling their characters.
Most dungeon deaths are usually like this from what I've seen. Usually them wanting to avoid having to kill everything and end up pulling most of the room in the end.
@@Einomar Not dumb to play like that in retail cuz there's no consequence other than minor inconvenience if it fails. No perma-death, plus retail is way more easy outside of M+ or Mythic raids so mistakes are easy to recover from and worst case you are only going to brick a key or slow progression which is not the same level as having to delete your toon. Sorry, but your comment makes no sense. Calling everyone who plays retail dumb isn't the right move, and people gotta realize there are many of us who play all versions of wow and love them all. Peace friend; good luck and have fun!
@@quineloe you can glitch out whitemane if you kill them far apart and kill her before she can heal to full and sometimes stop the other guy from being rezzed in the first place. it definitely wasnt needed but it is a thing people do. the interaction with the aoe shout was weird though and i didnt know about that
@@gmjokso that way you don't get loot... he has to be resd but there's a way to avoid a full heal while him still being resd or at least there used to
i mean he is a god... when he focuses on playing. but with the RP distracting and .... "chat next we do the elite mob and then.. yoooo dude you see that bugged mob back there.. so anyways chat we have to ... his brain goes BRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR *walks back and forth a few times* brain BRBRBRBRBRBR yo thank you for the 10 gifted subs"
Esfand was a private server guild tyrant about 2 decades ago. I know plenty of people who have bad stories on him. Most top WoW guys are social scammers. WoW's entire model and history is around social pigeonholding and extorting others. Let's just face it. GDKP, Loot Council, IRL friend favoritism, I could go on and on...
esfand is claiming private server status he never had,and has been repeatedly called out for that lie. He has always played a class wrong (PALLADINS ARE HEALERS NOT RETS!), and is so incredibly used to pallas panic buttons he plays very aggressively and recklessly. I like the dude's streams, they can be very chill - almost podcast like. But he plays like an idiot, because he is used to having panic buttons.
In SM Cath, if they'd just run straight through the fountain, dropped down, and kept going straight without panicking, they would've made it because the mobs would've had to path and take the stairs. They should've just kept their cool and held down W. It's not a far run out of that place.
chance watching julia's perspective "oh yeah thats tough, poor girl. thats a hard one!" legit ran around doing absolutely nothing and clicking useless abilities LMAO. just shield, fear mobs and tell your awful mages to peel. nobody should die there with 2 mages and double fear
2 mages= 2 sheeps, potential 4 novas, rank1 frobos to slow like EVERYTHING FOR CHEAP, blizzard to slow the mass. the boss was the problem, but srsly that both mages didnt even try to help is painful. YOu dont have to be ziqo or whoever to help your group there!
I've played mage for 17 years. I've been in that position dozens of times. Those weren't randoms, they were guildies and those cringe asf mages didn't even try. They were the first rats out the door, even the rogue tried to help. Also the role reversal of Soda whiteknighting for his mod, like Vulpes is some kind of noob and not just bad at his class lmao
The mages were shameless. There were two of them ffs. Almost full mana, every CD up, they were wanding earlier so probably at the bottom of the threat list. They had the longest time and safest opportunity to do something and they were both out the door before the warrior was even finished dying. Literally just a nova and cone from each would've been enough to get him out alive. I mean that motherfucker pops a swiftness potion when he's a few meters from the exit you don't get more roach than that. In all honesty if they hadn't booked it so fast and use made full use of their kit its totally possible the priest could've survived this as well.
@@EmpyreanDreamer The priest had very little chance of surviving that. She was running into the nova'd mobs and panicking way too much. The warrior probably could've survived, provided that he ran instead of attempting to save the priest.
@@yunogasai3170 There was so much more the mages could have done. I'm not saying she was guaranteed to live but it was definitely possible if they'd both stayed with her and used their kits. All they had to do was give her and warrior some distance to get ahead and then blink after them and all leave together with a backup nova if anyone needs it.
It's actually crazy how badly she panicked. Do you know how much you can survive just by alternating renew and power word shield? She could have dispelled the slow off of herself. She could have psychic screamed. She could have done SO many things and instead she did nothing.
for those LBRS guys, they should have tried jumping up on that window ledge that you get up to to jump down after that boss & hearthed out would have been less risky than trying to run out lol
19:20 all she had to do was stay on the left side of the stair and jump down buying her more time.. instead she walked the meleers to the stairs giving everyone a path to die.
Makes you wonder how many times that warrior abused that feature to get to 60. Like did he unstuck any time his character was in trouble in a quest or cave or something.
I don't understand why people don't utilize swiftness potions more. As the healer and tank there you jump over the waterfall and swiftness pot to safety.
I think it's partly people don't plan ahead, then when you have 1s to form a plan in panic you often don't do the optimal thing without loads of experience
everytime i see sodas making faces and noise like that when julia panicking, idk if its irony, his inner empathy or just actual disgust. idk he makes those face across years and i still dont know which but its funny
Dps did next to nothing to help out tank and newb healer in that final clip. I mean come on man...they had 2 mages and all 1 did was a nova on the mob and ran. No sheeps on the mob frostbolting the newb healer. Ya the healer was clueless on how to play her role there. But the biggest mistake of all was bringing the bosses outside to let the champion boss shout out to the trash mobs on the side.
Honestly, If Blizzard isn't going to give you your character back for their mistakes (falling through map, etc.) Then use whatever means necessary to keep your character alive.
In Scarlet Monastery, when reaching corridors, mage alone can slow mobs down and run some while they have a slow and nova them. Repeat that and either kill or safely run out. BLIZZARD EM
I think Moon could have saved Jaybeezy. He still had plenty of tools, but he cared more about eliminating any risk he could have messed up and died; which is fair in hardcore. Though it's a community learning experience, now everyone knows how the social aggro shout works in Scarlet Monastery.
Opinion: Using unstuck shenanigans takes the risk of dying out of hardcore. Effectively making the whole mode pointless. Of course I personally have no idea how that shit works. If its something that you select from bnet app or something. But if that shit becomes the new meta of "survival", then fuck this. Petri flasks are already there and as they are pretty expensive, there is a pretty steep cost of using one to survive and even then it isn't guaranteed.
just one of those unintended side effects of the small indie company not being able to have GMs do it after looking at the situation for 2 seconds. Same with all these streamers who are new to WoW being unable to trade for a month even though they're in the same guild. Couldn't have known this was gonna happen, but the small indie company that can't afford proper GMs on their $15/month game had to do something about some problem no one could have predicted.
is this streamer tactics from soda to pretend he doesnt get the abusive side of this? like baiting people into commenting? its obvious this is against the intended purpose. its like alt f4 in poe or diablo hc, pretty pointless, except for if you are bugged and you would die due to that.
during moonmoon part i think they pull him back to the well so they have more time during the rez phase to get mana and to reset a little before next phase of the fight cause she has to walk pretty far. I could be wrong tho but that's the only reason i can think of to pull him back that far.
That's just outthinking yourself. It's a lvl 40 vanilla boss, you know? It was designed to be fought by people with 5 days worth of experience playing the game while most HC players have YEARS of experience playing. Just kill it. There is absolutely no need to overcomplicate the encounter so that you can get a couple of ticks of spirit regen.
The priest just seemed too new to handle that chaos. Didn't Psychic Scream, didn't have Fade on action bar from what I could see, lots of different or same rank spells in action bar that may not be used. Also never seen that courtyard pull on bosses. Always did courtyard pull only on trash mobs. Some min/maxer probably decided to do it to save 3.5 minutes.
Man survivors Guilt is crazy with this. Jay didnt need to die. The only reason why he died was because he went back to save the healer. The thing to understand about HC is that in situtaions like that the best case is that you both get out but the mentality is that when you go back to save someone, you are sacrificing yourself for them. Don't expect you both to get out understand that most likely your sacrificing youself for them
Do non-priests think fade is a complete threat drop? It's been a while since classic but I'm pretty sure we looked it up one day and were shocked at how useless it actually was. WotLK fade was a godsend and that's when it started getting regular use.
That poor bird nearly got swatted. If they killed that 1 guy at the bottoim of the waterfall in SM i could of at least thought they pulled outside for that easy out. jump down everyone is saved.. But when i see it was alive. They never intended that to happen and the whole pull was just crazy. The priest standing with the tank was so dumb as she has no speed and you want her furthest forward so she can throw heals and pull the mobs away whie the mages slow. it was a complete shitshow
8:30 isnt crazy at all😂 theres normally 9 to 10 layers. The chances it was even the same layer is 10% also u said respawn time is 30 min and hes there at 40 min. So the chances are now nonexistent😂
I blame Tactics tbh. They had that mob clearly marked skull and he was DPSing the other one. It would have been dead and never pulled if he focused the right target.
If blizzard wont rollback server crash deaths and falling-through-map glitch deaths, then using exploits isnt bannable either. It comes with the territory of blizzard not caring.
All the first several PoV's made me accept Julia deserved that death just a tiny bit. Until you watch hers. 😂 Actually feels so bad knowing two mages were there with the ability to had made it all different in a single cast. 😂 I back the idea of not beating on them as newbies. Part of me feels like I brought one into my hardcore run though. I would possibly cover the idea of how they can save the day with the strategy. Especially if I had the convenience of a discord call.
That Cathedral situation... i am offended not more people died. The weird pull outside, maybe to get more downtime for manareg during the phases? Healer ran to the stairs instead of teh waterfall, no aoe fear, bad positioning inside the mobs instead of far away. tank low lvl and i did not see a aoe fear. rogue, not sure what he could do to help. two frostmages could have sheeped two mobs, chainnovad everyone to safety, butwe only saw one nova when teh call to run came. sad insane.
Could the mages in SM have done more? Sure. Was the healer spazzing out in full panic mode? Absolutely. I'm sure all her yelling helped a lot with the communication as well. I don't know what their relation was like before this, but they didn't seem to be very close. I wouldn't gamble my life away for some random spaztard. If anyone deserves shit here it's the healer. That being said, had her positioning been better, I would have expected the mages to step in to contribute more.
Its so hard to watch that priest girl in SM. Your first instinc on priest when you wanna run away from mobs is to shield yourself and run, she had shield off cd, she didnt used, she didnt fade, she didnt scream, she run the wrong direction. I mean cmon xD what are we doign here
I saw the SM clip so often and i love that Sodas Video is PG bc my head is near to bursting from all the loud "I'm fucked"s LOL Julia has some quality lungs on her!
That sm run is what happens when you're trying to be too cute in hc. Played 20 years never knew mobs pulled like that but I'd never be in that situation cuz im boring and just kills the boss where he stands.
If they're so good, why wipe to something as predictable as not clearing trash that is too close to the boss? And no crippling poison to prevent runners either, gotta max that yellow bar in details.
@@jacobfernandez813 Did you take this personally lol? Yeah she's new to it. I'm saying in general. Double frost nova and a imp blizzard would've saved her though. Lots of healers are dying a lot in OnlyFangs is why I'm saying this.
@@kaminceee I didn't put it on anyone else though. I just said the healers need more help than anyone else. This is hardcore and if you've never healed in HC, you're more worried about not letting someone die because it's literally all on you if you do. She was staring at the raid frames and took bad pathing, that's on her. In these OF dungeon groups, 90% of the time it's the healers dying though because they're saving other people which in turn gets themselves killed.
I am the warrior's lawyer, and we are claiming he did indeed think he was stuck. He quickly went on his phone and did the right thing.
Hope he gets banned
@@VYKSU mad af
funny part is that he still died
@@VYKSU you have no proof he wasnt stuck...
@@VYKSU mad cus bad
Running down the stairs instead of jumping over the fountain so the mobs have to go around. Seasoned wow veterans with many raiding hc 60s playing with first timers clicking wildly as only healer in group. Love it.
And the priest not fearing, no one dropping target dummies… Jesus 😅
HC is a knowledge check simple as that. you make your own bad luck by not clearing packs
And with it being guild found, every mob has a chance to drop BoEs that could help fellow guildies.
Absolutely, vanilla in general was all about preparing for encounters, HC is really an extension of that.
Every game is a knowledge check.... I can't think of a singular competitive game that isn't.
swiftmane SPRINTING after jimmy is so funny, then it just resets as its about to hit him
25:50 ooooooohhhh she was wanding the plainstrider and then LEFT clicked the zebra running to check what it was and when you do that the wand auto switches over. I've done this before in dungeons with hunters too
She just didn't know
God, the muting every second because cuss words have to censored is so annoying. I ------- hate what RUclips has become.
I just watched the entire video and didn't even register. You can always swear to yourself if you really need to hear some bad words. 😂
I thought it was a poor audio issue at first, so many gaps
pretty sure youtube lets you swear, they just don't monetize those videos so owners censure it
@@KJab21512 has nothing to do with swearing or not, it has all to do with either sudden silence, or the most annoying beep ever. It just makes everything incoherent
@KJab21512 it's just jarring when the audio completely cuts out over and over like that. Especially when there are people talking in addition to them you would like to hear from.
The Moon situation is crazy, the mages could've done more but everyone could've survived this situation regardless. The comm was made to run, Julia ran the wrong direction, no cd's, Jay went back to help and died for it.
Brutal situation that wasn't necessary, but pinning the blame on Moon solely is wild
You can't roast half the players for being bad or playing bad and let the rest slide
Worst part they had like 2 mages with full mana and blizzard. It was 100% lack of competency.
Moon doesnt have imp blizzard@@nixiedreamstar
whoever made that stupid call to fight mograine at the fountain is at fault 100%. If that was moon, then it was moon.
dude they had to mages, all they did to help was one nova, ONE ...
@@Galastin dude u dont need imp blizzard to do anything with two mages u can literally SPAMM frostnovas, they can basicly perma cc all the melees .. both have also coldsnap ..cone of cold .. who cares if he had imp blizzard lol is swear the ppl commenting on yt are all bots.
First clip isn't bad luck. It was so avoidable if they just cleared all the packs. I don't get why people want to save 1 minute by skipping a pack, considering they have spent days leveling their characters.
Most dungeon deaths are usually like this from what I've seen.
Usually them wanting to avoid having to kill everything and end up pulling most of the room in the end.
@@yunogasai3170 Yeah people even still play this way in retail, dumb as heck.
5 players gambling their 6+ days played characters to skip a 5 minute mob pack is classic hc in a nutshell
@@Einomar Not dumb to play like that in retail cuz there's no consequence other than minor inconvenience if it fails. No perma-death, plus retail is way more easy outside of M+ or Mythic raids so mistakes are easy to recover from and worst case you are only going to brick a key or slow progression which is not the same level as having to delete your toon. Sorry, but your comment makes no sense. Calling everyone who plays retail dumb isn't the right move, and people gotta realize there are many of us who play all versions of wow and love them all. Peace friend; good luck and have fun!
the sm deaths were avoidable without using any spells at all just jump down the waterfall and abuse the pathing lmao
not pulling it to the fountain was even more avoidable. The fight is trivial, you don't need to buy those few seconds.
@@quineloe you can glitch out whitemane if you kill them far apart and kill her before she can heal to full and sometimes stop the other guy from being rezzed in the first place. it definitely wasnt needed but it is a thing people do. the interaction with the aoe shout was weird though and i didnt know about that
@@gmjokso that way you don't get loot... he has to be resd but there's a way to avoid a full heal while him still being resd or at least there used to
clearly the dude knows it and its for the content
@@macmac6064 clearly you have no proof and are just talking out of your ass 🙄
That Esfand clip is hilarious 😅
The editing is amazing, made me tear up hearing the song 😅 just finished arcane
crazy how esfand is some self proclaimed god of classic wow and he can't make it past level 20
i mean he is a god... when he focuses on playing. but with the RP distracting and .... "chat next we do the elite mob and then.. yoooo dude you see that bugged mob back there.. so anyways chat we have to ... his brain goes BRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR *walks back and forth a few times* brain BRBRBRBRBRBR yo thank you for the 10 gifted subs"
Esfand is a great paladin, but that's about as far as it goes. Definitely not a "god" when it comes to shaman
Esfand was a private server guild tyrant about 2 decades ago. I know plenty of people who have bad stories on him. Most top WoW guys are social scammers. WoW's entire model and history is around social pigeonholding and extorting others. Let's just face it. GDKP, Loot Council, IRL friend favoritism, I could go on and on...
esfand is claiming private server status he never had,and has been repeatedly called out for that lie. He has always played a class wrong (PALLADINS ARE HEALERS NOT RETS!), and is so incredibly used to pallas panic buttons he plays very aggressively and recklessly.
I like the dude's streams, they can be very chill - almost podcast like.
But he plays like an idiot, because he is used to having panic buttons.
@nattyboop4 oh please get a grip
In SM Cath, if they'd just run straight through the fountain, dropped down, and kept going straight without panicking, they would've made it because the mobs would've had to path and take the stairs. They should've just kept their cool and held down W. It's not a far run out of that place.
JB dies trying to save the priest whose only contribution to the moment is a flood of panic over VO.
13:04 "i'm.......I'm........I'M....I'M!"
HAHAHAHA
chance watching julia's perspective "oh yeah thats tough, poor girl. thats a hard one!" legit ran around doing absolutely nothing and clicking useless abilities LMAO. just shield, fear mobs and tell your awful mages to peel. nobody should die there with 2 mages and double fear
19:15 I mean... literally do ANYTHING other than Will of the Forsaken into spamming your wand button 😂
2 mages= 2 sheeps, potential 4 novas, rank1 frobos to slow like EVERYTHING FOR CHEAP, blizzard to slow the mass. the boss was the problem, but srsly that both mages didnt even try to help is painful. YOu dont have to be ziqo or whoever to help your group there!
Everyone is a roach exterminator until they are in the same exact position.
Easy to Monday Morning quarter back
I've played mage for 17 years. I've been in that position dozens of times.
Those weren't randoms, they were guildies and those cringe asf mages didn't even try.
They were the first rats out the door, even the rogue tried to help.
Also the role reversal of Soda whiteknighting for his mod, like Vulpes is some kind of noob and not just bad at his class lmao
The mages were shameless. There were two of them ffs. Almost full mana, every CD up, they were wanding earlier so probably at the bottom of the threat list. They had the longest time and safest opportunity to do something and they were both out the door before the warrior was even finished dying. Literally just a nova and cone from each would've been enough to get him out alive. I mean that motherfucker pops a swiftness potion when he's a few meters from the exit you don't get more roach than that. In all honesty if they hadn't booked it so fast and use made full use of their kit its totally possible the priest could've survived this as well.
@@EmpyreanDreamer The priest had very little chance of surviving that.
She was running into the nova'd mobs and panicking way too much.
The warrior probably could've survived, provided that he ran instead of attempting to save the priest.
@@SaltNBattery Typical mage behaviour tbf
@@yunogasai3170 There was so much more the mages could have done. I'm not saying she was guaranteed to live but it was definitely possible if they'd both stayed with her and used their kits. All they had to do was give her and warrior some distance to get ahead and then blink after them and all leave together with a backup nova if anyone needs it.
Julia as a priest could have lived that
It's actually crazy how badly she panicked. Do you know how much you can survive just by alternating renew and power word shield? She could have dispelled the slow off of herself. She could have psychic screamed. She could have done SO many things and instead she did nothing.
I'm surprised she panicked so badly. Surely, MMA teaches you to keep calm when things are going bad.
@@connman8d617 yea, all that is skill issue though, the easiest thing to learn from this is where to position.
@@connman8d617 yeah lets blame her insdead of the two mages just running away and letting her die ..
@@Stevonicus huh?
for those LBRS guys, they should have tried jumping up on that window ledge that you get up to to jump down after that boss & hearthed out
would have been less risky than trying to run out lol
Warrior is such a shitter, you control pulls and could have just cleared everything especially if you're playing HC
19:20 all she had to do was stay on the left side of the stair and jump down buying her more time.. instead she walked the meleers to the stairs giving everyone a path to die.
If you pick mage you are expected to clutch save everyone , you just have too many tools.
Will of the forsaken 😂. Shes like my character might not be feared but I'm sure scared af 😂😂
Makes you wonder how many times that warrior abused that feature to get to 60. Like did he unstuck any time his character was in trouble in a quest or cave or something.
Only thing unlucky is everyone's genetics
I don't understand why people don't utilize swiftness potions more. As the healer and tank there you jump over the waterfall and swiftness pot to safety.
I think it's partly people don't plan ahead, then when you have 1s to form a plan in panic you often don't do the optimal thing without loads of experience
21:35 the "probably" is shit wording, it creates hesitation. Someone has to be in control and calls it fast as fuck.
Those mages were their best shot at getting out of there alive... kinda hard when your mages are the first ones out..
Every single death in this one was preventable and idiotic and it's 100% cheating to abuse a bug.
Man, I dont play WoW, idk whats going on but this type of content is so fun! As an MMO fan, this perma death rule makes it so immersive!!
I don’t feel so bad now after watching these clips lmfao
more from OnlyNoobs - "thiese are so good, they done hardcore 80 times, ooh thats why they dont clear the rooms?"
Yeah, they wanna save time ig
people who use wasd and click their abilities, who also play hc, is wild to me.
priest didn't even have a renew on herself
Them going down the staira running away proved they have no knowledge. Could of saved everyone if they dropped off the wqterfall
moon moon leaving the call to avoid accountability is very on brand
everytime i see sodas making faces and noise like that when julia panicking, idk if its irony, his inner empathy or just actual disgust. idk he makes those face across years and i still dont know which but its funny
I blame the dps. They all switched targets when skull got low and ran
Soda immediately backing Vulpes when he's getting critiqued by Pika haha
the priest got herself killed by being in a bad spot and not cleansing the snare. Also why are people taking the stairs to run in SM cath lol
How do you die in SM Cath.... LOL!! Loving the content
the amount of onlyfans Deaths because the streamers are looking at chat or twitter is out of control
Dps did next to nothing to help out tank and newb healer in that final clip. I mean come on man...they had 2 mages and all 1 did was a nova on the mob and ran. No sheeps on the mob frostbolting the newb healer. Ya the healer was clueless on how to play her role there. But the biggest mistake of all was bringing the bosses outside to let the champion boss shout out to the trash mobs on the side.
Honestly, If Blizzard isn't going to give you your character back for their mistakes (falling through map, etc.) Then use whatever means necessary to keep your character alive.
In Scarlet Monastery, when reaching corridors, mage alone can slow mobs down and run some while they have a slow and nova them. Repeat that and either kill or safely run out. BLIZZARD EM
I think Moon could have saved Jaybeezy. He still had plenty of tools, but he cared more about eliminating any risk he could have messed up and died; which is fair in hardcore. Though it's a community learning experience, now everyone knows how the social aggro shout works in Scarlet Monastery.
Not having improved blizzard in your 30s on hc is trolling. If you are doing any dungeons you need that shit
coc exists, but yeah true.
25:49 after a 40 crit from wand😂
if that was the last boss when Julia died, why did they pull the last boss way out there?
Opinion: Using unstuck shenanigans takes the risk of dying out of hardcore. Effectively making the whole mode pointless. Of course I personally have no idea how that shit works. If its something that you select from bnet app or something. But if that shit becomes the new meta of "survival", then fuck this. Petri flasks are already there and as they are pretty expensive, there is a pretty steep cost of using one to survive and even then it isn't guaranteed.
just one of those unintended side effects of the small indie company not being able to have GMs do it after looking at the situation for 2 seconds. Same with all these streamers who are new to WoW being unable to trade for a month even though they're in the same guild. Couldn't have known this was gonna happen, but the small indie company that can't afford proper GMs on their $15/month game had to do something about some problem no one could have predicted.
is this streamer tactics from soda to pretend he doesnt get the abusive side of this? like baiting people into commenting? its obvious this is against the intended purpose. its like alt f4 in poe or diablo hc, pretty pointless, except for if you are bugged and you would die due to that.
Nobody needed to die in that Cath boss pull.
Their group swapping off of skull hoping the others would finish it off so they could maximized their dps on the boss is what got them killed.
hex is one of the most unforgiving classic mechanics
It's good the newbs get to play with sweats that died, good for learnding (thumbsup)
at first i wanted to try and get in this guild to raid, but thank you for these videos. I now know to stay tf away lol
Insane bad luck? The mob is programmed to run to those mobs for help which they chose to not clear due to stupidity.
during moonmoon part i think they pull him back to the well so they have more time during the rez phase to get mana and to reset a little before next phase of the fight cause she has to walk pretty far. I could be wrong tho but that's the only reason i can think of to pull him back that far.
That's just outthinking yourself. It's a lvl 40 vanilla boss, you know? It was designed to be fought by people with 5 days worth of experience playing the game while most HC players have YEARS of experience playing. Just kill it. There is absolutely no need to overcomplicate the encounter so that you can get a couple of ticks of spirit regen.
The priest just seemed too new to handle that chaos. Didn't Psychic Scream, didn't have Fade on action bar from what I could see, lots of different or same rank spells in action bar that may not be used. Also never seen that courtyard pull on bosses. Always did courtyard pull only on trash mobs. Some min/maxer probably decided to do it to save 3.5 minutes.
Everything about that SM run is painful to watch. Mages failed, priest failed, and why do you have an under-leveled tank? The boss is orange to him.
Man survivors Guilt is crazy with this. Jay didnt need to die. The only reason why he died was because he went back to save the healer. The thing to understand about HC is that in situtaions like that the best case is that you both get out but the mentality is that when you go back to save someone, you are sacrificing yourself for them. Don't expect you both to get out understand that most likely your sacrificing youself for them
that priest in SM coulda done SO much to save herself smh
"good players".
Soda is just looksmaxxed asmon
2 mages neither one sheeped, no aoe dynamite stuns to help
They could've easily survive the SM deaths, I mean 2 mages and a rouge you can CC them even without exploiting the fountain
grounding totem ??? lol woulda been helpful there :)
It was karma for Jay killing his tank yesterday
Do non-priests think fade is a complete threat drop? It's been a while since classic but I'm pretty sure we looked it up one day and were shocked at how useless it actually was. WotLK fade was a godsend and that's when it started getting regular use.
and this is why you need a mage
Imagine if that SM warrior TANK had a shield 😂 like he's supposed to lol
Tactics had only 1 poison on and he should have gone double crippling once the pull went south. It would have been powerful CC.
That poor bird nearly got swatted. If they killed that 1 guy at the bottoim of the waterfall in SM i could of at least thought they pulled outside for that easy out. jump down everyone is saved.. But when i see it was alive. They never intended that to happen and the whole pull was just crazy. The priest standing with the tank was so dumb as she has no speed and you want her furthest forward so she can throw heals and pull the mobs away whie the mages slow. it was a complete shitshow
Dont play with overly rambunctious women
that priest doesn't even attempt to fear? like what?
2 mages and i dont think i saw one sheep lol
2mages one nova... :3
@@lolleonlolable weaaaaak. They sacrificed the tank and healer to that sht like some twats.
As far as unstucking goes, theres a reason Blizzard doesnt give players an instant cast no cooldown hearthstone.
Vaelastrasz ? :D
More and more i feel like you should not team up with people below the age of 25 and women.
8:30 isnt crazy at all😂 theres normally 9 to 10 layers. The chances it was even the same layer is 10% also u said respawn time is 30 min and hes there at 40 min. So the chances are now nonexistent😂
1:40, rogue made a huge misplay and didnt kill the shadowpriest.
I blame Tactics tbh. They had that mob clearly marked skull and he was DPSing the other one. It would have been dead and never pulled if he focused the right target.
It's easy to say in hindsight, but you don't expect to get hexed the exact moment the mob begins to flee.
@@lichmourne00true unlucky, but thats exactly why you focus down mobs. He got greedy
That SM deaths you can't blame the mages for trying to live, blame the one who made the call to pull the boss outside
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If blizzard wont rollback server crash deaths and falling-through-map glitch deaths, then using exploits isnt bannable either. It comes with the territory of blizzard not caring.
Super agree
All the first several PoV's made me accept Julia deserved that death just a tiny bit. Until you watch hers. 😂 Actually feels so bad knowing two mages were there with the ability to had made it all different in a single cast. 😂
I back the idea of not beating on them as newbies. Part of me feels like I brought one into my hardcore run though. I would possibly cover the idea of how they can save the day with the strategy. Especially if I had the convenience of a discord call.
That Cathedral situation... i am offended not more people died.
The weird pull outside, maybe to get more downtime for manareg during the phases?
Healer ran to the stairs instead of teh waterfall, no aoe fear, bad positioning inside the mobs instead of far away.
tank low lvl and i did not see a aoe fear.
rogue, not sure what he could do to help.
two frostmages could have sheeped two mobs, chainnovad everyone to safety, butwe only saw one nova when teh call to run came. sad
insane.
Could the mages in SM have done more? Sure. Was the healer spazzing out in full panic mode? Absolutely. I'm sure all her yelling helped a lot with the communication as well. I don't know what their relation was like before this, but they didn't seem to be very close. I wouldn't gamble my life away for some random spaztard. If anyone deserves shit here it's the healer. That being said, had her positioning been better, I would have expected the mages to step in to contribute more.
Its so hard to watch that priest girl in SM. Your first instinc on priest when you wanna run away from mobs is to shield yourself and run, she had shield off cd, she didnt used, she didnt fade, she didnt scream, she run the wrong direction. I mean cmon xD what are we doign here
Grounding totem. Tremor totem.
down ranking lesser heal is the most pointless thing
Jaybz went back
Dont skip
Oh dang I didn't know LuxBunny was in on this too
I saw the SM clip so often and i love that Sodas Video is PG bc my head is near to bursting from all the loud "I'm fucked"s LOL Julia has some quality lungs on her!
Unstuck, petri, same thing
that warrior couldve spammed piercing howl and demo shout and kept her alive but hes braindead
That sm run is what happens when you're trying to be too cute in hc. Played 20 years never knew mobs pulled like that but I'd never be in that situation cuz im boring and just kills the boss where he stands.
funny as fuck to watch streamers fail at classic wow.
If they're so good, why wipe to something as predictable as not clearing trash that is too close to the boss? And no crippling poison to prevent runners either, gotta max that yellow bar in details.
HC definately fries your brain.
the most pro players dying like noobs 😂
We really need people to help their healers out more good lord.
Excuse me? She played that horribly. It was known instantly that they should've ran. She didnt.
@@jacobfernandez813 Did you take this personally lol? Yeah she's new to it. I'm saying in general. Double frost nova and a imp blizzard would've saved her though. Lots of healers are dying a lot in OnlyFangs is why I'm saying this.
@@digitalskillnah she couldve lived easily on her own, cant put that on anyone else
@@kaminceee I didn't put it on anyone else though. I just said the healers need more help than anyone else. This is hardcore and if you've never healed in HC, you're more worried about not letting someone die because it's literally all on you if you do. She was staring at the raid frames and took bad pathing, that's on her. In these OF dungeon groups, 90% of the time it's the healers dying though because they're saving other people which in turn gets themselves killed.
do clickers know they dont NEED to play hardcore. that they could just enjoy the regular game and die like 100 times?