For me this expansion has been a blast. I am fairly new (200hrs) and this expac has opened a lot of doors for me from easier ascended gearing, more access to quick gold, new skyscale track, and the list goes on. I have gotten my friend into the game as well and he is also having a blast and I think I can point most of the credit to the wizards vault! I can definitely see how this expac could be disappointing for people who are much more experienced than I am, I can see that there is a huge lack of new content for players that have been playing for years. So I am conflicted yes the expac is good for new players and I’m happy about that. HOWEVER the veterans in this game are the kindest and most helpful community of players I have come across. There is always someone willing to help and explain how something works and they deserve to be rewarded for their dedication and love for the game! GIVE THEM CONTENT!
Same here started 2 days before release of new expansion and still playing trough al the living world and older expansions but the vault helped me get gold and first ascended gear so the grind feels easier. Followed a metabuild and also the relics are big power increase. The power creep does make some group fight look easy. Not that I do so much but see other players destroy bosses wich makes it easy to tag along 😂
I agree somewhat. As a player I use it to check if I'm doing well, especially as a support to see if my boons are being properly upkept. As a commander the boon table is a nice tool to see if boons are being properly distributed, I then try and gently let the supports know. I never use it to judge other peoples DPS.
I think the game needs a personal dps meter. Like, not show the group dps, but just your personal dps. Something to let you know what your performance is.
1:08:44 It is interesting to note that Teapot and Nike claim that the incompetent player (not good enough dps) is the toxic one and people should be able to kick them. However, Lara admits she was once that incompetent player and such avoided raiding to prevent that very scenario from happening. I dont know if they realized it but they just became the example why many players (like old lara) dont want to engage with the raiding scene
Honestly, just get good lol /s. If you're a team and there's 1 person that is way worse than everyone else, why keep them? Everyone needs to pull their own weight in a team. Getting kicked sucks but you can't expect people to carry you.
@shadowboy2417 I agree, but that's why not many bother trying. And those who will, do it with people they trust. However, don't expect it to change nor complain when players call raiders toxic. It's their right to not engage with raids as much raiders have the right to do so to them
@MightyTeapot it is as it is. It's unfortunate that endgame PVE isn't as invested as other mmos, but gw2's style does enable it to have things others don't. Despite their raid popularity, the grievance gw2 raiders have about their content (uncaring casuals, lack of content, unbalanced messes) are the same as those in WoW and ff14 On a brighter note, the fact that raiders from WoW and f14 are coming and even admiring some of the creativity some these raids and strike cms show that gw2's combat can has something to offer in a PVE setting. They just need a better way to address the gaps in skill between the normal and the challenging
The fact that we can control the 3 base skills of them should be pretty cool, but the problem is that the pet is pretty slow to respond. A. Net should make it that the pet's base skills be instantaneously lauched when we press the key, and if it must interrupt an other ongoing attack or skill, then so be it.
rather than pet getting skills by itself, I'd rather see that if the ranger ambush hits, it would cause the pet to shadowstep to the main target and do an attack based on pet family or something like that.
Like Lara I use Arc to see how I'm doing and if I, in the words of Teapot, "need to press more buttons". It's very useful for those of us who don't want to have to use the training room to find out our DPS, but in actual world bosses and events.
DPS meters and gear checks were never toxic in WOW because everyone had them. Years ago when I played WOW a friend gear checked me and helped fix my gear issues. But Nike’s statement is right. The person who made ARCDPS doesn’t even play GW2 anymore. It is not fair for ANET to make the instanced content community rely on someone who doesn’t play the game anymore. ANET needs to take responsibility for that and make their own DPS meter, even it is not feature laden like ARCDPS.
wtf at 22:50 Yeah, new stuff creates powercreep. We know that. We are not stupid. The problem with powercreep is, that it destroys the integrity of the games encounters, by trivializing difficulty, therefore reducing the fun. Sorry, but Nike suggesting people who complain about having "no clue" is probably the biggest L-take I have heard in a long time.
We need more relics that push player to make something. For example like effects in Division 2, some rare sets of items have such effect like... For example, imagine relic like this: "Every killed mob drops some bonus which gives you +0.2% damage for 3 mins (stacks up to 30 which is 6% total (and you should pick up every those bonus)), and also this relic gives you +5% for 10 sec on pick up" (this part of effect doesnt stack but just renewed). So it's a good relic for some strike missions or pve roaming. -Or you can change second part of description to: Also this relic HEALS you for +5 of max HP on pick up.
or imagine relic which makes special backlight targetign in your UI on random enemy every 10 seconds, and effect lives for 5 seconds befor it will jumps to another random enemy (range 1500). If you manage to land a critical hit in these 5 seconds - this enemy considered to be cursed and take 10% more damage for 20 sec, and you get 5% life steal on it (just on this enemy).
Wow i am actually agreeing with NIKE in something Oo. Give us personal dps meters. A meter that i can use and that is for my eyes only. This way i will be aware of the dps from the day i join the game and can see if it improves or not. I mean if there is a box where you can tick it off and cant see it, sure, fine, what ever, no all people are interested in doing content where dps is really needed, fine. But give us a dps/hps meter that i can see. Put it on screen or in chat, again i dont care, but i want to know my dps. I do not use arc dps because i can not be arsed with the annoyance when a patch happen. I just can not. I hammer on the golem to check my dps when new builds comes out, but i refuse arc dps. Not their fault obviously, since it is outside of the game, but so many people using it so just give us one in game! I dont need anything fancy. I dont need other people dps, i dont really give a shit about others dps, it is their problem to solve not mine. But give a personal one to all players in the game.
Thanks for Teatime! I want a gem store teleporter which teleports me directly into any unlocked strike missions, so I don't have to go from Wizard's Tower > Arborstone > HT, for example. Would improve quality of life and reduce major loading times. I'd happily pay for that.
@@typeluminanejoyer Thanks, yes, I have those, I'm saying a teleporter that zones you into any strike mission directly. It's a waste of time to go from Arborstone > EOTN > then Boneskinner. You have an extra loading time just for EOTN, when you're really just going straight to Boneskinner, or whatever strike. It's not efficient, and loading times have increased since Soto released.
I can't speak for all servers, I'm on ET (NA) and the guilds on our server share a good amount of members as we prepared for alliances, guilds transferred into our server as well. We plan during the week to have coverage on different days from those guilds. With world restructuring it's going to force folks to make hard decisions and pick a guild, and then split up for the foreseeable future. A lot of us veteran wvw players definitely want population balance to be improved, but this is going to be a big blow to any multi-guild communities out there w/out a good idea how long it's going to be before we can again.
@@curiavoca There is actually a fully featured dps meter in the client. we used it on the test server for raids and the code is in the client now, its just disabled.
You touched on it for like 30 seconds then swiftly moved on, but while the DPS across the board is incredibly balanced with this patch - the ability for each build to "provide value" or "do something" swing wildly between builds. E.g., qCata or qZerker doing approximately the same DPS as qHerald or qFb - when the value these builds provide to the team is not even in the same universe. I feel like this is a point worth focusing on much more so than any DPS discussion because VALUE is what makes a build truly strong in GW2 short of some utterly insane DPS disparity. It's even one of the bullet points on the "Balance Philosophy" stream if anyone still remembers that - Power Budget. If these builds are doing the same DPS, then where is all that power budget being assigned to? There are certain aspects of builds that make this disparity in value very hard to balance too and is worth a public discourse about. E.g., any Revenant build always having some kind of value/utility because their Utility skills are forced into a specific set (meaning they always at least have a stunbreak for example) yet are balanced DPS wise with builds that take all DPS Utility skills. It's a similar situation with the age old issue of Fb always having access to all their tomes and the value skills within to have a tool for any situation.
Clocktower challenge: Your screen alternates with going black/blind and being visible. You could start with trying to beat the JP with 50% visibility, and then crank up the blinded ratio.
Honestly was worried about scourge, but I feel it's still good, just not completely broken. Still loving playing it in pve. Now if they could make it better in pvp and fix it back up in wvw...
That WvW add on you’re talking about does NOT gear check the enemy Zerg. That’s know thy enemy and all it is is based off of Arc and it checks their DPS and specializations. That’s it
I'm hoping for relics working with auras. We got a couple of runes doing it, and so far that effect didn't come back. Also, they could have relics that add some effect depending on what combo you're doing (I want to see combos coming more on the front of the gameplay).
they're all called combo fields + finishers ...and they've existed on style combos. runes shouldn't have anything to do with aurus and, as far as i know never did. which runes r you referring to? anything additional and part of a relic adding such is counterproductive to what Anet is trying to do with balance, most relics in fact have a long way to go in terms of usefulness anyway.
@@cjttruelife I don't think you get what I meant (and thx, I know what combos are) I'd like to see some relics taking advantage from the fact that you're doing a specific kind of combo. And I don't see why it would be counter productive, can you elaborate on that?
100% agree that relics should lose their DPS equivalent. I absolutely love running the Wizards Tower relic on my Harbinger. The reflect has saved me and the mini gravity well helps stack mobs a little more after Spectral Grasp.
An interesting idea for Lara would be do the Halloween jumping puzzle blindfolded while she tries to move, and she can only look at the screen unblindfolded for like 10 seconds, but she can't move during those 10 seconds. Or to go off your idea MightyTeapot have her screen off that the game is on, and she's on discord with someone and their tryign to tell her how to do it
one of the places were power creep is very noticeable is IBS easy 3 - like on Kodans most groups would almost or get to the CC phase, that is now only reached if you afk for 45s, Ice Golem dies before he can do his "raised" shock wave, etc. so for groups who need certain archievments (CC Kodans, CC WoJ 5 times in 1 fight) you have to activly do bad dps
Oh my god I’ve been saying we need a new button map for activating your relic since they released. Tying them to other skills will ALWAYS be inherently limiting.
Also, 51:00 Nike. If the power creep was boosting the most high DPS builds its simple statistics that the average DPS WILL LITERALY BE below the modal values. because the extreme values to the right are in higher in quality, but not in cuantity. cheers.
1:27:00 IT WAS ME! I (attempted) to use a DDR pad for the Bell Choir game, and then I ended up using it on the jumping puzzle! ruclips.net/video/mYYcIH59Fr0/видео.html
I wonder if Teapot and Nike have seen Folding Ideas' video "Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft". In short, it's about addons (including dps meters) making WoW playerbase pay more attention to group PvE combat performance which led to suboptimal builds use being considered "rude". I'm not sure ArenaNet wants such a future for GW2 and I agree and I guess most of the playerbase would in this case agree with ArenaNet. That's why no official dps meter in GW2. P.S. I think a good compromise would be an official dps meter which allows to see your own stats but not anyone else's. So if you really want someone else's opinion on your performance you just make screencast / screen recording and ask for their opinion.
Untamed should just turn into a localized boon machine. Award the ranger for positioning the pet and themselves separately with an extremely potent boon supply that becomes less potent the more the two interact with the same party memebers/enemy. Allow the maximum potential to be realized through positioning choices and utilizing the pets autonomy. Create a scenario where the ranger can give the pet a respectable amount of importance to the other players. Make seeing an untamed pet something to be next to and fight alongside. Allow the nature of power swapping to be an important choice, rather than just another offensive cd in the rotation.
I think the a ANET damage meter should just show your own damage and healing and maybe a percentile comparison with the rest of your group, but not actually show your group's individual performance. They could also show stats at the END of PvE encounters so people can get a flash of their performance at the end. That way they at least get to complete whatever they were playing before being flamed/removed
I've been really enjoying the game, and I'm very excited about the direction Anet is moving. I think they've been doing a pretty good job so far. If there's one thing I would criticize though is the amount of game breaking bugs and how long it took to fix them. That was a bit concerning. As for ARCDPS, the entire hardcore and semi-hardcore community was left hanging without it for almost a week because the poor guy who built it was on vacation. You really shouldn't such an integral part of the game on the hands of a single person, what if something happens to him? What if he rightfully gets sick of spending time on it? What do we do then? I understand why Anet is not comfortable having a dps meter native to their game but there must be a solution, maybe have it open source or have more devs working on it, with the creator's permission of course. Or have Anet do a simpler version of it with opt-in and opt-out options, which would make it more consensual than ARCDPS. I dunno. But something needs to be done.
A-Net will never add a DPS meter or an inspect feature because this game has too many players who don’t put time and effort into their performance and instead of acknowledging that, they play the privacy card. They blame it on toxic behavior when the reality is they just suck and don’t want to take responsibility for it. They also fail to acknowledge that their poor performance negatively effects those around them in their group. Coming to this game from world of Warcraft, I’m kind of shocked at the community’s overall viewpoint on basic things like dps meters and inspect character.
what I don't like about the patch now is the lack of variety right now.. perhaps if they introduce a lot more relics that will change... But basically because they separated the special effect from the rune makes build craft more simple, more runes are more useless now than before. Buildcraft is less difficult, there is no trade-off so the pick for the rune and the pick of the relic is very obvious now in most cases
The problem about powercreep in GW2 is that the players become more power crept but the mobs stay the same. Last time combat was "tougher" was from vanilla to release HoT. Addendum: Increasing mobs max%HP Pool is not a way to make combat more difficult or countering power creep.
I don't understand why untamed not being played means it has no identity, this point makes no sense, the identity is related to how it feels and plays, not who plays it, plus it's actually in a pretty good spot right now; 34k pquick, 37k cquick, 41k dps. After playing plenty of pquick, I've grown a lot on it again and it feels great to get those ambushes. It is fun, and very strong. (And yes I did play during Fervent Force days, it was by far the most enjoyable build for me in the entire game, but also very clearly 100% unintended and not the theme they wanted to push, at some point everyone has to move on from FF.) What it lacks is the sheer insanity of boon access as some other classes, and that's fine considering it has other utilities such as boonstrip/projectile destruction. Much like Lara holding a strong adoration for catalyst (as do I), why not just play it instead of discussing how bad classes are that you've never touched? No one played untamed before because it had such a high skill floor, and now it's more in the middle, more reachable, and I think people are pretending to be concerned about it anymore even though they never cared for it in the first place.
@@NikeonaBike nasty nature magic. go crazy go stupid mode. unga bunga blend with the jungle. it's not the most exquisite identity sure but i don't think it's that difficult to grasp.
Hammer Revenant needs some loving, everyone goes for the short bow now. Every weapon, per class, should now have a reason to use that weapon, and for that reason.
i always use dps meters in mmo's to see if i play right myself because if i play my role and class almost perfectly, then i can carry someone in a raid who is new and doesn't play his/her class perfectly
@59:52 no, not a gear-check. You probably mean "know thy enemy", which just displays based on the combat log and the abilities your squad gets hit, which PROFESSIONS and HOW MANY of them are in the enemy zerg. it canNOT show you their exact gear, builds, or whatever. it´s exclusively numbers and (if possible) professions (in some scenarios, for example when exclusively core-skills are involved, it cannot even determine the elite-specc)
Look, I like untamed. I think FS is cool, I think having 3 manual pet skills gives you this fierce mechanist F-skills-hammer hybrid, while managing 2 modes, kind of like an engi or ele does with kits or attunements. I think pets should do more damage, similar to mech damage, but i'm happy with its current state. It does good damage, it's honestly competitive with soulbeast (worse burst but better consistent dps, and a free elite slot) i would like changes to it but it's become my favorite spec as of the recent buffs to it.
for the wvw restructuring part I dont understand how that can be good without alliances. all it is doing will take the guilds I like to play with and scatter them to random teams so I can only play with only one. for example Ill go with my main guild obviously but what happens on off nights when I would join [FAIL]? they could be on an enemy team suddenly. want to run with [POP] who knows what matchup they will be in. is the solution here to make a mega guild? rip to my pve raid guild gotta make room. it's also possible that I just have no idea how the system is supposed to work and I am just not understanding.
the only thing that should be adressed right now is stab for some supports , per example , i go cm fractals , i only hear the "NEED FB NEED FB" 80% of the time , and thats so dumb to not give all support one source of stab , lets say fb is the only class that have 4 sources of aegis , and 3 sources of stab , so he can swap when needed , alright no need for elite spelll ? go take stab mantra , remove stand your ground and take aegis with advance so help ur team sustain mechanics , fb is so op in term of utility and spell switching for each situation needed and whats what makes it fun , now i play druid and scourge heal , i have legit no source of stab cause the elite glyph is on a very high cd that i can't have always the stab i need to make my team avoid being stun locked , its always the fb that is needed no matter dps or heal , so i would actualy suggest that anet maybe give every support one stab source with 20/25 s cd so other supports can feel important and have a spot in cm groups , that way fb can only unique aegis provider if i can say.
I'd like delta connected to disappear and see what happens to player pop. Would a dev try to reverse engineer arcdps? Would the community take the L and play without arc? Would Anet accept a player engagement drop or would they provide it 1st party
I always thought about that! What if they limited the amount of dps a player could achieve to, idk, 35k? Or the amount of might stacks at 15 instead of 25? so the goal of each build would always be to reach this limited maximum, maybe then the powercreep in the game would definitely be controlled? I do not know, maybe 🤷♂️
@@ggazhou thanks for the feedback 😄I don't think the approach would allow to "control" power creep entirely (I'm not sure if that would be possible or even desirable) - but I do think that capping the individual performance (dps, boons, etc) would at least shift the focus of players from "output" to "variety/utility". And while it might just be another type of power creep, I do feel like this might make the meta a bit more healthy overall 🤔
With regards to introducing in game meters I'm still baffled so please someone answer me this- apart from certain CMs where is there a ABSOLUTE NEED for high DPS in GW2? Talking purely DPS here, ignoring boon uptime, and with that need how much can be mitigated in PUGS by just checking someone's mastery level and assuming they're going to be alright anyway? If you've got two terrible DPS'ers say, how many fights would the group actually struggle with? Time and time again the issue of meters is brought up and to be frank if an exclusionary feature was to be introduced into the game you'd have to have a damn good reason for it. Good reasons IMO include shitty boon uptime, speedruns and players not being open about playing certain builds due to, say, LI requirement but DO NOT INCLUDE the fact that you just want to finish 10 minutes earlier. If your time was that precious you wouldnt be hanging around the Hubs at all in game and you'd have a list of 'players that can pump' ready to go. Where's the data on the amount of pug groups just flat out failing fights due to DPS? What kinds of game modes are most affected and what is the percentage of GW2 players that participate in those modes? Would an in game meter actively turn people off of trying those modes?
I think most of that discussion explains why gw cant grow. While there is a group that enjoy the fast intensity gameplay, I think there is a bigger group of people who enjoy more slower tactical and clear readable gameplay. And to me GW2 is with time shifting more and more to the go fast. I mean if you show some random who never played wow classic for example and gw2 group combat. That random will get the idea what is going on in wow classic, what each person of the group is doing, what the enemy is doing etc. if you show gw2 group combat, all they would see is visual diarrhea. No matter how complex and interesting the gameplay under can be, or easy. This is how I see It.
GIVE ME A PERSONAL DPS METER, ANET. How hard is it. It's already a part of the game. If some others want to use ArcDPS for sharing their efficiency with their groups. better.
Power weaver should be protected. People hate on weaver it seems like but it's amazing. I love to pvp with sword dagger weaver. Does it work? Probably if I was good. Instead I'm not so it's ahit or miss in pvp and wvw. Not much of a pve player but I can do anything I've attempted if I just slam my head down on the keyboard and roll my face across it. Usually works out.
I don't think these guys understand how WvW mains play the game. There is ZERO reason to win a matchup, you get nothing. The game system rewards you (pips) for winning the skirmish (2 hour intervals) and winning fights (WXP). So the focus for generally organized WvW guilds is to play with the people you want to play (inside and outside of your guild) and win fights within a certain time frame. Therefore WR has very little to no actual impact on that, whereas Alliances would've been the feature that gave them input to achieve this. What Lara says about joining an "Alliance Guild" is technically true, and believe me many have done that, but take a good look at how they do it. They make "mega guilds" with factions in their own timezone, who they want to play adjacent to, because the mentality is: Within the 2-3 hours a night that we raid, we want to win. Whatever happens outside my timezone, I don't care. Because there's no reason to care. Why would I sacrifice my guild's experience every night to "win the matchup" when it's literally pointless to do so. This whole "prepping" for Alliances by making megaguilds created another slew of problems in terms of fight balance (both in group size and skill). In primetime its impossible for these groups to hop maps to find a favorable matchup, it's impossible for them to find another fight if they farmed their content into logging off, and it generally promotes stalemate/evasion tactics rather than fun gameplay. The participants in this Teatime are so "big picture", same as the Developers; they can't see the litany of problems and bad experiences WvW players have day in and day out because of lack of consistent experience in the game-mode. Add to that getting lied to by omission for 5 years and now delaying (yet again) a promised feature (that granted is not a solution)... yeah people are pissed. And with good reason, regardless of how it's presented.
Gameplay wise, there is no competitive spirit and anet's baseline philosophy of not giving exclusive rewards removes all possible pog factor from the gamemode. I used to play a browser based game as a kid in which clans/guilds used to fight and attack each other for top10 spots until the end of season(1month). Top 10 guilds at the end of season got rewards skills, exclusive skins, and non exclusive but still powerful in-game items too. Also, top 1 had a slightly upgraded version of skin than top top3. Similarly top3, had the slightly upgraded ver of skin compared to top10. This created an environment where all guilds wanted to race to the top and bottom ones formed alliances to bring the top ones down etc etc. Also the game went insane during the end of month because it was like a pog event where everyone is going full blast before the bell rings for the end of season. But considering anet they wont give people exclusive rewards for competing. And until then, no one would care about matchups. 'A casual should also have access to same rewards as a seasoned veteran pog 20times tournament winner in a separate, easier but more grindier way'. To me this philosophy is trash and shackles the gamemode. The only thing they need to create is 1skin per season. And from what i see skins are the only content they can deliver consistently. Just an example of how to make people excited to play and win. Edit: Also my personal grievance is that the maps look visually outdated by their own current standard. So many years have passed, its about time to revamp the maps to newer textures, lighting etc. UI also shows info in a weird way and not easily understandable in the first look.
@@NikeonaBike This is what I mean by being too focused on the big picture. What it's "supposed to be" doesn't matter, what matters is how players are using it. And they're using it that way cause there's no incentive to use it "as intended". I explained why already, the rewards are not for the matchup (weekly score), they're for each skirmish tick (5 mins). There's no point in making a 24/7 coverage alliance when winning the matchup gives you nothing. If you concentrate your alliance in a specific time window, your alliance rolls the enemy by sheer numbers and gets rewarded for placing 1st every 5 minutes of gameplay. Winning the matchup is entirely inconsequential to the gameplay OR the rewards.
@@xecor4450 The competitive spirit is there imo. You see it in open field fighting, in outmanned clashes, etc. But the competition for the matchup means nothing, which makes your analysis 100% valid.
@@luisandresantelo2497 Yeah but you wrote a whole fanfic in your head of what you expect it to be and none of it has to do with anything the devs have ever promised.
Likely they don't turn on a DPS meter by default because it may make the community potentially more toxic, it could add server load and it breaks emersion
@@hilding2063 server load? Immersion? Toxicity? These are all incorrect. 1. Server load = the DPS metre already exists in game, it's just hidden to players, see training golem. 2. Immersion = As someone who plays a lot of DND, I can tell you that optimising your character to become more effective HELPS makes the character feel effective, effective characters are more attractive to immerse within. 3. Toxicity = Arc DPS already exists. Realising that you are bad at the game and can get better is just good. It'll mean you get kicked LESS for being bad and less for random unrelated to the game reasons. :)
22:00 Every mmo expansion ever has power creep and if you don't like it you uninstall and go play mmo that breaks traditional mmo norms with horizontal progression like guil- oh wait, you get shouted at for playing it now. Guess what else other mmos have? tons of new encounters to match the power creep. Powercreep literally trivializes entire GW2 content.
i would like to hear STYLE improvements/ updates/ adjusted affects[effects] on old already existing weapons. ..that desperately need performance upgrades. take guardian hammer for example among others, necro staff. arenanet and gw2 is notorious for limitation for 1, but also a ...."you get what you get on weapons, like it or not," mentality. weapon limitations ultimately limit n hinder build functionality a ✝️ the board. lez hope old / new weaps get improved upon.
@MightyTeapot I am a fellow GS/GS power Mirage enjoyer for open world cleave with Stamina+Energy Sigill, Daredevil Relic and Dragon Breath Buns. Would stm Chrono perform better - probably. But i just get my Offenssive Protocol buff and start blasting.
30:15 for sure they should give more context.. For example, my perma evade celestial roaming thief used torment rune with regen on apply torment, it therefore was equally strong to roaming druids / trapper sb / sb roaming - ele builds roaming mesmers / core necro's / harbingers.... just basically any good solo or small scale roaming build. But now, with relics... I'm missing this perma regen, which is a huge nerf. But I don't know exactly what other roaming builds where also heavily relying on this rune. But it for sure was a huge nerf to my build, and also to my solo all builds in pve, like dual staff mesmer, any condi or celestial necro build. But I don't care about this... I care about balance in wvw; That is where it really matters. And I would love Anet to get into detail about their reasoning why they think stuff is balanced now... Then we can also give them more to the point feedback. Dumb people will always rage, whether you give them insight or not.. So that wouldn't change.. but the decent people that are invested in the game and can be more objective can definitely help Anet out in giving them more to the point feedback and perhaps pointing out any flaws in Anets balancing. Basically if Anet keeps it all a secret makes me feel they don't really have a good idea about what they are doing because it's simply too complex... I would love Anet to prove me wrong on this and show the community how smart they are about this
Anet could do a lot more to balance the game and promote a wider variety of weapons use, by simply adjusting the weapon attack numbers to be within a smaller range. Weapons that provide more utility should have slightly less DPS than weapons that have zero utility. Auto attacks for all weapons should be pretty close to each other. It’s hard to understand why Anet hasn’t done a better job at balancing weapons to encourage more variety of builds.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 yes, well that's another good argument, and one that makes me question the reason they aren't open about their decision making... Perhaps there is more to it, perhaps this imbalance they keep causing is part of the marketing strategy, something they would never be open about. And another explanation is they simply leave some loose ends here and there and don't have that much insight into all or most of the outcomes of their changes ... Every time I see in the balance patches numbers like 30% buffed or nerfed, or even 50% ... those kind of numbers already indicates that they are very often tipping the scale from one end to the other...
@@woof3065 I'm certain that Anet does not have sufficient staff to properly balance GW2 and all of its complexity, as well as doing work on future expansions, and overall bug fixes. What puzzles me is that they don't seem to ever have been good at doing balancing of the game, even from day one of its release, and balance hasn't seemed to be high on their priority list.
I'm with Nike here that Anet should stop trying to hide so much regarding the overall performance of builds and be more open with information like DPS. This is a learned game, over a decade old now. Should we really be getting balance patches talking about "overperformers" without any clear concept of what numbers Anet actually wants to see for their content? What is acceptable to them? Where do they draw the line? The balance manifesto post feels like a lifetime ago, and I question how much of it is actually being followed. Communicate with your players. Show metrics like DPS better in game. Communicate what levels of damage are acceptable and what aren't. Acknowledge where content has fallen behind on handling those levels (and maybe stop releasing HP sponges that aren't fun for new and veteran players alike). Nobody wins in this vague dance that Anet insists on performing.
I'm mad. I was finally able to play 1h sword on my warrior with the condi build and they went and nerfed it that hard. Not cool. Weaponmaster on warrior has 0 use. Such a stupid and not thought true system.
This is going to be painful to get through. I saw the nose before the video loaded. Predictions. Lara will have her head in the clouds. Nose is going to think being edgy is funny and cool in the current year. And the man in the bathrobe will be making sensible statements no one hears.
Keep 3rd party addons away from GW2. Looks quite disjointed and overwhelming, especially for new players. I wouldnt mind ANET creating some customizable UI options and some simple addons like DPS meter that are not on by default. By them creating a few tools it fits their design seamlessly so it meshes well and makes it easier for any player to access the tools
So what did SotO do for the game exactly? They made 3 useless maps all with reused assets that everyone already abandoned. They completely destroyed the balance of the game making it even worse than it already was. They repackaged old expansion features as new. They added a new gear piece that essentially does what runes already did and making everyone who made legendary runes feel insanely bad. And multiplied the amount of bugs in the game by 3. All for the price of $15. The year of Guild Wars 2.
Old Rune system and relic system are not do the same thing. It’s simple calculus: you are no longer tied to the stats of a rune to get the effect that you want in a build. So instead of 99 choices you have 99x52 possible choices.
@@lordgrey5223 99x52 options > 99 options. Imagine learning how to count it must be difficult. Like teapot said in this video: relics just need some much needed differentiation… the old rune system suffered from the same issues of “options” that were all just 5% damage buffs
@@NightmareCourtPictures you must have missed the part where theres only about 3 useful relics. And thus the whole point. A half baked system that could have been great if implemented correctly. But instead just a much worse t6 system with a middle finger to the people that made lege runes.
I dont think i Anet will implement dps meter,i play many mmo's in my life and been in this game for half a year as much as i love this game it just infested with too many "toxic casual",no im not talking about casual player who just want to having fun because a im one my self,but the toxic casual the type of people who againts anykind of growth or improvement and challanges,tools like dps meter is kryptonite to them they callit toxic tool because it promotes people to get better,they dont want people to get better they want people to be like them, a bottom barrel and sadly they are the loudest voice in the game
The truth is all real talent of Anet left with the layoffs , now they will just reuse stuff year after year. Then what? we reach mastery lvl 999 ?? masteries most of them useable in their respective maps? Soto maps were a let down to me, very little to explore , the pleasure of getting the skyscale was the convinience after a long quest to get it and by making a mandatory way of moving around flying islands that are pretty much the smallest maps in the game was a bad decision. A mastery for mounts using updrafts , then another mastery for using little mashines that produce updrafts...what?
Addons are horrible, and while i like arcdps i only started to use it once golem existed in game. I also think taco and blish ruin the game and are absolutely too much info to enjoy the game
Love the combo. Good cop, bad cop and Teapot as the criminal.
Batman, Kingpin and the Joker
Ahah good one 🎉
the villains of guild wars 2
For me this expansion has been a blast. I am fairly new (200hrs) and this expac has opened a lot of doors for me from easier ascended gearing, more access to quick gold, new skyscale track, and the list goes on. I have gotten my friend into the game as well and he is also having a blast and I think I can point most of the credit to the wizards vault! I can definitely see how this expac could be disappointing for people who are much more experienced than I am, I can see that there is a huge lack of new content for players that have been playing for years. So I am conflicted yes the expac is good for new players and I’m happy about that. HOWEVER the veterans in this game are the kindest and most helpful community of players I have come across. There is always someone willing to help and explain how something works and they deserve to be rewarded for their dedication and love for the game! GIVE THEM CONTENT!
Same here started 2 days before release of new expansion and still playing trough al the living world and older expansions but the vault helped me get gold and first ascended gear so the grind feels easier. Followed a metabuild and also the relics are big power increase. The power creep does make some group fight look easy. Not that I do so much but see other players destroy bosses wich makes it easy to tag along 😂
i am a veteran from launch and still like this expansion a lot; and it is not complete at this point anyway.
I'm totally with Laranity with arcdps: I use it not to judge others, but to verify if I'm doing good.
I agree somewhat. As a player I use it to check if I'm doing well, especially as a support to see if my boons are being properly upkept. As a commander the boon table is a nice tool to see if boons are being properly distributed, I then try and gently let the supports know. I never use it to judge other peoples DPS.
sadly you're a minority, in any game with a dps meter it is be used to judge others.
Same, but I do joke. "I'm top dps... there's something very wrong with this PUG. ;) "
I use it to mentally inflate my epeen when im at the top or near it
yeah but if i see i'm top dps as adps/qdps I just quit the squad and say to go train rotation
I think the game needs a personal dps meter. Like, not show the group dps, but just your personal dps. Something to let you know what your performance is.
Totally agree with this. If Anet is worried about backlash, put it in the options menu as something that must be toggled on, and it's off by default.
I think it should show personal dps and average squad dps.
@@Juryoku_nah because that would include healer and support dps. % of damage done on the boss would be better
yeah a personal dps/boon/heal meter would be great, some can't be bothered to install a 3rd party and get flamed as soon as they hop in pve
1:08:44 It is interesting to note that Teapot and Nike claim that the incompetent player (not good enough dps) is the toxic one and people should be able to kick them. However, Lara admits she was once that incompetent player and such avoided raiding to prevent that very scenario from happening.
I dont know if they realized it but they just became the example why many players (like old lara) dont want to engage with the raiding scene
Honestly, just get good lol /s. If you're a team and there's 1 person that is way worse than everyone else, why keep them? Everyone needs to pull their own weight in a team. Getting kicked sucks but you can't expect people to carry you.
@shadowboy2417 I agree, but that's why not many bother trying. And those who will, do it with people they trust. However, don't expect it to change nor complain when players call raiders toxic. It's their right to not engage with raids as much raiders have the right to do so to them
@@shamwaw336I agree :)
This is kinda the semi unfortunate thing about harder content. If you don't have a growth mentality then you shouldn't be there.
@MightyTeapot it is as it is. It's unfortunate that endgame PVE isn't as invested as other mmos, but gw2's style does enable it to have things others don't. Despite their raid popularity, the grievance gw2 raiders have about their content (uncaring casuals, lack of content, unbalanced messes) are the same as those in WoW and ff14
On a brighter note, the fact that raiders from WoW and f14 are coming and even admiring some of the creativity some these raids and strike cms show that gw2's combat can has something to offer in a PVE setting. They just need a better way to address the gaps in skill between the normal and the challenging
Hot take: pets (on untamed) should have an unleash ambush skill as well, and the same buff/debuff the ranger gets
The fact that we can control the 3 base skills of them should be pretty cool, but the problem is that the pet is pretty slow to respond. A. Net should make it that the pet's base skills be instantaneously lauched when we press the key, and if it must interrupt an other ongoing attack or skill, then so be it.
rather than pet getting skills by itself, I'd rather see that if the ranger ambush hits, it would cause the pet to shadowstep to the main target and do an attack based on pet family or something like that.
Like Lara I use Arc to see how I'm doing and if I, in the words of Teapot, "need to press more buttons". It's very useful for those of us who don't want to have to use the training room to find out our DPS, but in actual world bosses and events.
Thanks for keeping the gw2 content and podcast going. Thanks for what you do.
DPS meters and gear checks were never toxic in WOW because everyone had them. Years ago when I played WOW a friend gear checked me and helped fix my gear issues. But Nike’s statement is right. The person who made ARCDPS doesn’t even play GW2 anymore. It is not fair for ANET to make the instanced content community rely on someone who doesn’t play the game anymore. ANET needs to take responsibility for that and make their own DPS meter, even it is not feature laden like ARCDPS.
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Yeah, new stuff creates powercreep. We know that. We are not stupid. The problem with powercreep is, that it destroys the integrity of the games encounters, by trivializing difficulty, therefore reducing the fun. Sorry, but Nike suggesting people who complain about having "no clue" is probably the biggest L-take I have heard in a long time.
We need more relics that push player to make something. For example like effects in Division 2, some rare sets of items have such effect like... For example, imagine relic like this: "Every killed mob drops some bonus which gives you +0.2% damage for 3 mins (stacks up to 30 which is 6% total (and you should pick up every those bonus)), and also this relic gives you +5% for 10 sec on pick up" (this part of effect doesnt stack but just renewed). So it's a good relic for some strike missions or pve roaming.
-Or you can change second part of description to: Also this relic HEALS you for +5 of max HP on pick up.
or imagine relic which makes special backlight targetign in your UI on random enemy every 10 seconds, and effect lives for 5 seconds befor it will jumps to another random enemy (range 1500). If you manage to land a critical hit in these 5 seconds - this enemy considered to be cursed and take 10% more damage for 20 sec, and you get 5% life steal on it (just on this enemy).
Wow i am actually agreeing with NIKE in something Oo. Give us personal dps meters. A meter that i can use and that is for my eyes only. This way i will be aware of the dps from the day i join the game and can see if it improves or not. I mean if there is a box where you can tick it off and cant see it, sure, fine, what ever, no all people are interested in doing content where dps is really needed, fine. But give us a dps/hps meter that i can see. Put it on screen or in chat, again i dont care, but i want to know my dps. I do not use arc dps because i can not be arsed with the annoyance when a patch happen. I just can not. I hammer on the golem to check my dps when new builds comes out, but i refuse arc dps. Not their fault obviously, since it is outside of the game, but so many people using it so just give us one in game!
I dont need anything fancy. I dont need other people dps, i dont really give a shit about others dps, it is their problem to solve not mine. But give a personal one to all players in the game.
Thanks for Teatime! I want a gem store teleporter which teleports me directly into any unlocked strike missions, so I don't have to go from Wizard's Tower > Arborstone > HT, for example. Would improve quality of life and reduce major loading times. I'd happily pay for that.
Arborstone Portal Scroll exist. The tome for Eye of the north too. You just gotta do main story.
@@typeluminanejoyer Thanks, yes, I have those, I'm saying a teleporter that zones you into any strike mission directly. It's a waste of time to go from Arborstone > EOTN > then Boneskinner. You have an extra loading time just for EOTN, when you're really just going straight to Boneskinner, or whatever strike. It's not efficient, and loading times have increased since Soto released.
I can't speak for all servers, I'm on ET (NA) and the guilds on our server share a good amount of members as we prepared for alliances, guilds transferred into our server as well. We plan during the week to have coverage on different days from those guilds.
With world restructuring it's going to force folks to make hard decisions and pick a guild, and then split up for the foreseeable future. A lot of us veteran wvw players definitely want population balance to be improved, but this is going to be a big blow to any multi-guild communities out there w/out a good idea how long it's going to be before we can again.
Wait, there's a dps meter hidden in the code? Jesus, just let us have it.
@@curiavoca There is actually a fully featured dps meter in the client. we used it on the test server for raids and the code is in the client now, its just disabled.
The wvw rush rewards were great for getting tickets. Thank goodness
You touched on it for like 30 seconds then swiftly moved on, but while the DPS across the board is incredibly balanced with this patch - the ability for each build to "provide value" or "do something" swing wildly between builds. E.g., qCata or qZerker doing approximately the same DPS as qHerald or qFb - when the value these builds provide to the team is not even in the same universe.
I feel like this is a point worth focusing on much more so than any DPS discussion because VALUE is what makes a build truly strong in GW2 short of some utterly insane DPS disparity. It's even one of the bullet points on the "Balance Philosophy" stream if anyone still remembers that - Power Budget. If these builds are doing the same DPS, then where is all that power budget being assigned to?
There are certain aspects of builds that make this disparity in value very hard to balance too and is worth a public discourse about. E.g., any Revenant build always having some kind of value/utility because their Utility skills are forced into a specific set (meaning they always at least have a stunbreak for example) yet are balanced DPS wise with builds that take all DPS Utility skills. It's a similar situation with the age old issue of Fb always having access to all their tomes and the value skills within to have a tool for any situation.
Clocktower challenge: Your screen alternates with going black/blind and being visible. You could start with trying to beat the JP with 50% visibility, and then crank up the blinded ratio.
Honestly was worried about scourge, but I feel it's still good, just not completely broken. Still loving playing it in pve. Now if they could make it better in pvp and fix it back up in wvw...
A relic that grants 6 seconds of stability whenever you damage a breakbar would be great
That WvW add on you’re talking about does NOT gear check the enemy Zerg. That’s know thy enemy and all it is is based off of Arc and it checks their DPS and specializations. That’s it
I'm hoping for relics working with auras. We got a couple of runes doing it, and so far that effect didn't come back. Also, they could have relics that add some effect depending on what combo you're doing (I want to see combos coming more on the front of the gameplay).
they're all called combo fields + finishers ...and they've existed on style combos. runes shouldn't have anything to do with aurus and, as far as i know never did. which runes r you referring to?
anything additional and part of a relic adding such is counterproductive to what Anet is trying to do with balance, most relics in fact have a long way to go in terms of usefulness anyway.
@@cjttruelife I don't think you get what I meant (and thx, I know what combos are) I'd like to see some relics taking advantage from the fact that you're doing a specific kind of combo. And I don't see why it would be counter productive, can you elaborate on that?
100% agree that relics should lose their DPS equivalent. I absolutely love running the Wizards Tower relic on my Harbinger. The reflect has saved me and the mini gravity well helps stack mobs a little more after Spectral Grasp.
An interesting idea for Lara would be do the Halloween jumping puzzle blindfolded while she tries to move, and she can only look at the screen unblindfolded for like 10 seconds, but she can't move during those 10 seconds. Or to go off your idea MightyTeapot have her screen off that the game is on, and she's on discord with someone and their tryign to tell her how to do it
one of the places were power creep is very noticeable is IBS easy 3 - like on Kodans most groups would almost or get to the CC phase, that is now only reached if you afk for 45s, Ice Golem dies before he can do his "raised" shock wave, etc.
so for groups who need certain archievments (CC Kodans, CC WoJ 5 times in 1 fight) you have to activly do bad dps
Oh my god I’ve been saying we need a new button map for activating your relic since they released. Tying them to other skills will ALWAYS be inherently limiting.
As cool as this is, I don’t have anymore keys on my keyboard on some of the classes.
Also, 51:00 Nike. If the power creep was boosting the most high DPS builds its simple statistics that the average DPS WILL LITERALY BE below the modal values. because the extreme values to the right are in higher in quality, but not in cuantity. cheers.
1:27:00 IT WAS ME! I (attempted) to use a DDR pad for the Bell Choir game, and then I ended up using it on the jumping puzzle!
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I wonder if Teapot and Nike have seen Folding Ideas' video "Why It's Rude to Suck at Warcraft". In short, it's about addons (including dps meters) making WoW playerbase pay more attention to group PvE combat performance which led to suboptimal builds use being considered "rude". I'm not sure ArenaNet wants such a future for GW2 and I agree and I guess most of the playerbase would in this case agree with ArenaNet. That's why no official dps meter in GW2.
P.S. I think a good compromise would be an official dps meter which allows to see your own stats but not anyone else's. So if you really want someone else's opinion on your performance you just make screencast / screen recording and ask for their opinion.
Untamed should just turn into a localized boon machine. Award the ranger for positioning the pet and themselves separately with an extremely potent boon supply that becomes less potent the more the two interact with the same party memebers/enemy. Allow the maximum potential to be realized through positioning choices and utilizing the pets autonomy. Create a scenario where the ranger can give the pet a respectable amount of importance to the other players. Make seeing an untamed pet something to be next to and fight alongside. Allow the nature of power swapping to be an important choice, rather than just another offensive cd in the rotation.
I think the a ANET damage meter should just show your own damage and healing and maybe a percentile comparison with the rest of your group, but not actually show your group's individual performance.
They could also show stats at the END of PvE encounters so people can get a flash of their performance at the end. That way they at least get to complete whatever they were playing before being flamed/removed
I feel like Nike is so jaded by the game and community that you can feel that he's content but his face isn't showing it
Great podcast. Spot on takes that needs more attention
1:31:40 - Larry show? Harry guiding you
I've been really enjoying the game, and I'm very excited about the direction Anet is moving. I think they've been doing a pretty good job so far. If there's one thing I would criticize though is the amount of game breaking bugs and how long it took to fix them. That was a bit concerning.
As for ARCDPS, the entire hardcore and semi-hardcore community was left hanging without it for almost a week because the poor guy who built it was on vacation. You really shouldn't such an integral part of the game on the hands of a single person, what if something happens to him? What if he rightfully gets sick of spending time on it? What do we do then?
I understand why Anet is not comfortable having a dps meter native to their game but there must be a solution, maybe have it open source or have more devs working on it, with the creator's permission of course. Or have Anet do a simpler version of it with opt-in and opt-out options, which would make it more consensual than ARCDPS. I dunno. But something needs to be done.
A-Net will never add a DPS meter or an inspect feature because this game has too many players who don’t put time and effort into their performance and instead of acknowledging that, they play the privacy card. They blame it on toxic behavior when the reality is they just suck and don’t want to take responsibility for it. They also fail to acknowledge that their poor performance negatively effects those around them in their group.
Coming to this game from world of Warcraft, I’m kind of shocked at the community’s overall viewpoint on basic things like dps meters and inspect character.
what I don't like about the patch now is the lack of variety right now.. perhaps if they introduce a lot more relics that will change... But basically because they separated the special effect from the rune makes build craft more simple, more runes are more useless now than before. Buildcraft is less difficult, there is no trade-off so the pick for the rune and the pick of the relic is very obvious now in most cases
Yeah remember when chronos were the only class that can provide quick and alac? I miss when we had choices!!!
I really like relic of the chronomancer. It would be so cool if it applied to all allies.
The problem about powercreep in GW2 is that the players become more power crept but the mobs stay the same. Last time combat was "tougher" was from vanilla to release HoT.
Addendum: Increasing mobs max%HP Pool is not a way to make combat more difficult or countering power creep.
I don't understand why untamed not being played means it has no identity, this point makes no sense, the identity is related to how it feels and plays, not who plays it, plus it's actually in a pretty good spot right now; 34k pquick, 37k cquick, 41k dps. After playing plenty of pquick, I've grown a lot on it again and it feels great to get those ambushes. It is fun, and very strong. (And yes I did play during Fervent Force days, it was by far the most enjoyable build for me in the entire game, but also very clearly 100% unintended and not the theme they wanted to push, at some point everyone has to move on from FF.)
What it lacks is the sheer insanity of boon access as some other classes, and that's fine considering it has other utilities such as boonstrip/projectile destruction.
Much like Lara holding a strong adoration for catalyst (as do I), why not just play it instead of discussing how bad classes are that you've never touched? No one played untamed before because it had such a high skill floor, and now it's more in the middle, more reachable, and I think people are pretending to be concerned about it anymore even though they never cared for it in the first place.
if you cant sum up the class RP in a few words it has bad identity.
@@NikeonaBike nasty nature magic. go crazy go stupid mode. unga bunga blend with the jungle. it's not the most exquisite identity sure but i don't think it's that difficult to grasp.
@@DonQuitoit’s not difficult to grasp. It’s basically a primal venomous beast master type spec.
@@DonQuito yeah so you cant do it
@@NikeonaBikei just did though
They should straight up increase the hp of old wb/metas and ignore peoples complaint about reduced gold/h just for the lols
Hammer Revenant needs some loving, everyone goes for the short bow now. Every weapon, per class, should now have a reason to use that weapon, and for that reason.
i always use dps meters in mmo's to see if i play right myself
because if i play my role and class almost perfectly, then i can carry someone in a raid who is new and doesn't play his/her class perfectly
@59:52 no, not a gear-check. You probably mean "know thy enemy", which just displays based on the combat log and the abilities your squad gets hit, which PROFESSIONS and HOW MANY of them are in the enemy zerg. it canNOT show you their exact gear, builds, or whatever. it´s exclusively numbers and (if possible) professions (in some scenarios, for example when exclusively core-skills are involved, it cannot even determine the elite-specc)
Look, I like untamed. I think FS is cool, I think having 3 manual pet skills gives you this fierce mechanist F-skills-hammer hybrid, while managing 2 modes, kind of like an engi or ele does with kits or attunements.
I think pets should do more damage, similar to mech damage, but i'm happy with its current state. It does good damage, it's honestly competitive with soulbeast (worse burst but better consistent dps, and a free elite slot)
i would like changes to it but it's become my favorite spec as of the recent buffs to it.
they did the same thing in the last years of gw1 with events like that
for the wvw restructuring part I dont understand how that can be good without alliances. all it is doing will take the guilds I like to play with and scatter them to random teams so I can only play with only one. for example Ill go with my main guild obviously but what happens on off nights when I would join [FAIL]? they could be on an enemy team suddenly. want to run with [POP] who knows what matchup they will be in.
is the solution here to make a mega guild? rip to my pve raid guild gotta make room.
it's also possible that I just have no idea how the system is supposed to work and I am just not understanding.
Agree, I don't like the idea to split up our guild communities w/out a replacement solution available.
Delta is a hero👑
I wanna play a pistol/dagger thief in serious PvE content for ages, but they have not been buffed... at all in forever.
I have wanted to play sword thief in pve since forever, but they do a really bad job of keeping all weapon options viable.
Relics should be all flavor
keyboard-turning clocktower
the only thing that should be adressed right now is stab for some supports , per example , i go cm fractals , i only hear the "NEED FB NEED FB" 80% of the time , and thats so dumb to not give all support one source of stab , lets say fb is the only class that have 4 sources of aegis , and 3 sources of stab , so he can swap when needed , alright no need for elite spelll ? go take stab mantra , remove stand your ground and take aegis with advance so help ur team sustain mechanics , fb is so op in term of utility and spell switching for each situation needed and whats what makes it fun , now i play druid and scourge heal , i have legit no source of stab cause the elite glyph is on a very high cd that i can't have always the stab i need to make my team avoid being stun locked , its always the fb that is needed no matter dps or heal , so i would actualy suggest that anet maybe give every support one stab source with 20/25 s cd so other supports can feel important and have a spot in cm groups , that way fb can only unique aegis provider if i can say.
I dont understand this nike guy. How does he ride his bike when its fixed on the wall?
I'd like delta connected to disappear and see what happens to player pop.
Would a dev try to reverse engineer arcdps? Would the community take the L and play without arc? Would Anet accept a player engagement drop or would they provide it 1st party
For Relics I just hate the fact that they are Soulbound.
Random thought: Could power creep be reduced by capping the DPS a boss can take from each player? 🤔
I always thought about that! What if they limited the amount of dps a player could achieve to, idk, 35k? Or the amount of might stacks at 15 instead of 25? so the goal of each build would always be to reach this limited maximum, maybe then the powercreep in the game would definitely be controlled? I do not know, maybe 🤷♂️
@@ggazhou thanks for the feedback 😄I don't think the approach would allow to "control" power creep entirely (I'm not sure if that would be possible or even desirable) - but I do think that capping the individual performance (dps, boons, etc) would at least shift the focus of players from "output" to "variety/utility". And while it might just be another type of power creep, I do feel like this might make the meta a bit more healthy overall 🤔
Herald exists and people still complain about firebrand in the reddit 🤷♂️
Firebrand Derangement Syndrome
General populace is lagging behind. You still see firebrand everywhere
With regards to introducing in game meters I'm still baffled so please someone answer me this- apart from certain CMs where is there a ABSOLUTE NEED for high DPS in GW2? Talking purely DPS here, ignoring boon uptime, and with that need how much can be mitigated in PUGS by just checking someone's mastery level and assuming they're going to be alright anyway? If you've got two terrible DPS'ers say, how many fights would the group actually struggle with?
Time and time again the issue of meters is brought up and to be frank if an exclusionary feature was to be introduced into the game you'd have to have a damn good reason for it. Good reasons IMO include shitty boon uptime, speedruns and players not being open about playing certain builds due to, say, LI requirement but DO NOT INCLUDE the fact that you just want to finish 10 minutes earlier. If your time was that precious you wouldnt be hanging around the Hubs at all in game and you'd have a list of 'players that can pump' ready to go.
Where's the data on the amount of pug groups just flat out failing fights due to DPS? What kinds of game modes are most affected and what is the percentage of GW2 players that participate in those modes? Would an in game meter actively turn people off of trying those modes?
I think most of that discussion explains why gw cant grow. While there is a group that enjoy the fast intensity gameplay, I think there is a bigger group of people who enjoy more slower tactical and clear readable gameplay. And to me GW2 is with time shifting more and more to the go fast. I mean if you show some random who never played wow classic for example and gw2 group combat. That random will get the idea what is going on in wow classic, what each person of the group is doing, what the enemy is doing etc. if you show gw2 group combat, all they would see is visual diarrhea. No matter how complex and interesting the gameplay under can be, or easy. This is how I see It.
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I can believe the 1000 gold. I made like 4 gold in 30 minutes and didn't even ask for tips.
No mouse clockwork challenge. Keyboard turn
when are we going to see dark bloom ripping this game to shred
GIVE ME A PERSONAL DPS METER, ANET. How hard is it. It's already a part of the game. If some others want to use ArcDPS for sharing their efficiency with their groups. better.
Power weaver should be protected. People hate on weaver it seems like but it's amazing. I love to pvp with sword dagger weaver. Does it work? Probably if I was good. Instead I'm not so it's ahit or miss in pvp and wvw. Not much of a pve player but I can do anything I've attempted if I just slam my head down on the keyboard and roll my face across it. Usually works out.
As a ranger main I say that untamed is very good and very nice to play, dunno why teapot hates it so much
Love tea time!
I don't think these guys understand how WvW mains play the game. There is ZERO reason to win a matchup, you get nothing. The game system rewards you (pips) for winning the skirmish (2 hour intervals) and winning fights (WXP). So the focus for generally organized WvW guilds is to play with the people you want to play (inside and outside of your guild) and win fights within a certain time frame.
Therefore WR has very little to no actual impact on that, whereas Alliances would've been the feature that gave them input to achieve this. What Lara says about joining an "Alliance Guild" is technically true, and believe me many have done that, but take a good look at how they do it. They make "mega guilds" with factions in their own timezone, who they want to play adjacent to, because the mentality is: Within the 2-3 hours a night that we raid, we want to win. Whatever happens outside my timezone, I don't care. Because there's no reason to care. Why would I sacrifice my guild's experience every night to "win the matchup" when it's literally pointless to do so.
This whole "prepping" for Alliances by making megaguilds created another slew of problems in terms of fight balance (both in group size and skill). In primetime its impossible for these groups to hop maps to find a favorable matchup, it's impossible for them to find another fight if they farmed their content into logging off, and it generally promotes stalemate/evasion tactics rather than fun gameplay.
The participants in this Teatime are so "big picture", same as the Developers; they can't see the litany of problems and bad experiences WvW players have day in and day out because of lack of consistent experience in the game-mode. Add to that getting lied to by omission for 5 years and now delaying (yet again) a promised feature (that granted is not a solution)... yeah people are pissed. And with good reason, regardless of how it's presented.
it kinda sounds like you dont understand what alliances is supposed to be, ngl
Gameplay wise, there is no competitive spirit and anet's baseline philosophy of not giving exclusive rewards removes all possible pog factor from the gamemode.
I used to play a browser based game as a kid in which clans/guilds used to fight and attack each other for top10 spots until the end of season(1month). Top 10 guilds at the end of season got rewards skills, exclusive skins, and non exclusive but still powerful in-game items too. Also, top 1 had a slightly upgraded version of skin than top top3. Similarly top3, had the slightly upgraded ver of skin compared to top10.
This created an environment where all guilds wanted to race to the top and bottom ones formed alliances to bring the top ones down etc etc. Also the game went insane during the end of month because it was like a pog event where everyone is going full blast before the bell rings for the end of season.
But considering anet they wont give people exclusive rewards for competing. And until then, no one would care about matchups. 'A casual should also have access to same rewards as a seasoned veteran pog 20times tournament winner in a separate, easier but more grindier way'.
To me this philosophy is trash and shackles the gamemode.
The only thing they need to create is 1skin per season. And from what i see skins are the only content they can deliver consistently.
Just an example of how to make people excited to play and win.
Edit: Also my personal grievance is that the maps look visually outdated by their own current standard. So many years have passed, its about time to revamp the maps to newer textures, lighting etc. UI also shows info in a weird way and not easily understandable in the first look.
@@NikeonaBike This is what I mean by being too focused on the big picture. What it's "supposed to be" doesn't matter, what matters is how players are using it. And they're using it that way cause there's no incentive to use it "as intended". I explained why already, the rewards are not for the matchup (weekly score), they're for each skirmish tick (5 mins).
There's no point in making a 24/7 coverage alliance when winning the matchup gives you nothing. If you concentrate your alliance in a specific time window, your alliance rolls the enemy by sheer numbers and gets rewarded for placing 1st every 5 minutes of gameplay. Winning the matchup is entirely inconsequential to the gameplay OR the rewards.
@@xecor4450 The competitive spirit is there imo. You see it in open field fighting, in outmanned clashes, etc. But the competition for the matchup means nothing, which makes your analysis 100% valid.
@@luisandresantelo2497 Yeah but you wrote a whole fanfic in your head of what you expect it to be and none of it has to do with anything the devs have ever promised.
I 100% agree with the in-game DPS metre!!
Untamed is great for open world
The dreamteam. ❤
Likely they don't turn on a DPS meter by default because it may make the community potentially more toxic, it could add server load and it breaks emersion
Cringe take 😢
how so :)@@crystalcortexx
@@hilding2063 server load? Immersion? Toxicity?
These are all incorrect.
1. Server load = the DPS metre already exists in game, it's just hidden to players, see training golem.
2. Immersion = As someone who plays a lot of DND, I can tell you that optimising your character to become more effective HELPS makes the character feel effective, effective characters are more attractive to immerse within.
3. Toxicity = Arc DPS already exists.
Realising that you are bad at the game and can get better is just good.
It'll mean you get kicked LESS for being bad and less for random unrelated to the game reasons.
:)
If they nerf ele again, I’m gonna explode.
post september MOTA pls
22:00
Every mmo expansion ever has power creep and if you don't like it you uninstall and go play mmo that breaks traditional mmo norms with horizontal progression like guil- oh wait, you get shouted at for playing it now.
Guess what else other mmos have? tons of new encounters to match the power creep. Powercreep literally trivializes entire GW2 content.
i would like to hear STYLE improvements/ updates/ adjusted affects[effects] on old already existing weapons. ..that desperately need performance upgrades. take guardian hammer for example among others, necro staff.
arenanet and gw2 is notorious for limitation for 1, but also a ...."you get what you get on weapons, like it or not," mentality. weapon limitations ultimately limit n hinder build functionality a ✝️ the board. lez hope old / new weaps get improved upon.
I'd like mount wheel to be in the game and maybe a personal dps meter and then all addons be banned. In practice i can't see it happening.
@MightyTeapot
I am a fellow GS/GS power Mirage enjoyer for open world cleave with Stamina+Energy Sigill, Daredevil Relic and Dragon Breath Buns. Would stm Chrono perform better - probably. But i just get my Offenssive Protocol buff and start blasting.
30:15 for sure they should give more context.. For example, my perma evade celestial roaming thief used torment rune with regen on apply torment, it therefore was equally strong to roaming druids / trapper sb / sb roaming - ele builds roaming mesmers / core necro's / harbingers.... just basically any good solo or small scale roaming build. But now, with relics... I'm missing this perma regen, which is a huge nerf. But I don't know exactly what other roaming builds where also heavily relying on this rune. But it for sure was a huge nerf to my build, and also to my solo all builds in pve, like dual staff mesmer, any condi or celestial necro build. But I don't care about this... I care about balance in wvw; That is where it really matters. And I would love Anet to get into detail about their reasoning why they think stuff is balanced now... Then we can also give them more to the point feedback. Dumb people will always rage, whether you give them insight or not.. So that wouldn't change.. but the decent people that are invested in the game and can be more objective can definitely help Anet out in giving them more to the point feedback and perhaps pointing out any flaws in Anets balancing. Basically if Anet keeps it all a secret makes me feel they don't really have a good idea about what they are doing because it's simply too complex... I would love Anet to prove me wrong on this and show the community how smart they are about this
Anet could do a lot more to balance the game and promote a wider variety of weapons use, by simply adjusting the weapon attack numbers to be within a smaller range. Weapons that provide more utility should have slightly less DPS than weapons that have zero utility. Auto attacks for all weapons should be pretty close to each other. It’s hard to understand why Anet hasn’t done a better job at balancing weapons to encourage more variety of builds.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 yes, well that's another good argument, and one that makes me question the reason they aren't open about their decision making... Perhaps there is more to it, perhaps this imbalance they keep causing is part of the marketing strategy, something they would never be open about. And another explanation is they simply leave some loose ends here and there and don't have that much insight into all or most of the outcomes of their changes ... Every time I see in the balance patches numbers like 30% buffed or nerfed, or even 50% ... those kind of numbers already indicates that they are very often tipping the scale from one end to the other...
@@woof3065 I'm certain that Anet does not have sufficient staff to properly balance GW2 and all of its complexity, as well as doing work on future expansions, and overall bug fixes. What puzzles me is that they don't seem to ever have been good at doing balancing of the game, even from day one of its release, and balance hasn't seemed to be high on their priority list.
@@traveling.down.the.road56 yea I think you are right... It's very obvious they have very limited resources.
I'm with Nike here that Anet should stop trying to hide so much regarding the overall performance of builds and be more open with information like DPS. This is a learned game, over a decade old now. Should we really be getting balance patches talking about "overperformers" without any clear concept of what numbers Anet actually wants to see for their content? What is acceptable to them? Where do they draw the line? The balance manifesto post feels like a lifetime ago, and I question how much of it is actually being followed.
Communicate with your players. Show metrics like DPS better in game. Communicate what levels of damage are acceptable and what aren't. Acknowledge where content has fallen behind on handling those levels (and maybe stop releasing HP sponges that aren't fun for new and veteran players alike). Nobody wins in this vague dance that Anet insists on performing.
Had no idea Delta didn't play GW2 anymore... Yeah ANET needs to stop leeching
I'm mad. I was finally able to play 1h sword on my warrior with the condi build and they went and nerfed it that hard. Not cool. Weaponmaster on warrior has 0 use. Such a stupid and not thought true system.
This is going to be painful to get through. I saw the nose before the video loaded. Predictions. Lara will have her head in the clouds. Nose is going to think being edgy is funny and cool in the current year. And the man in the bathrobe will be making sensible statements no one hears.
>"It's time to talk about Guild Wars 2"
I left.
Yeah put a damn dps meter in the game I ain’t installing a add on
Keep 3rd party addons away from GW2. Looks quite disjointed and overwhelming, especially for new players. I wouldnt mind ANET creating some customizable UI options and some simple addons like DPS meter that are not on by default. By them creating a few tools it fits their design seamlessly so it meshes well and makes it easier for any player to access the tools
So what did SotO do for the game exactly? They made 3 useless maps all with reused assets that everyone already abandoned. They completely destroyed the balance of the game making it even worse than it already was. They repackaged old expansion features as new. They added a new gear piece that essentially does what runes already did and making everyone who made legendary runes feel insanely bad. And multiplied the amount of bugs in the game by 3. All for the price of $15. The year of Guild Wars 2.
I think they took a page from Blizzard. Break everything, then introduce fixes as content.
Old Rune system and relic system are not do the same thing. It’s simple calculus: you are no longer tied to the stats of a rune to get the effect that you want in a build. So instead of 99 choices you have 99x52 possible choices.
@@NightmareCourtPictures so true. Old system actually had options. Its simple calculus
@@lordgrey5223 99x52 options > 99 options. Imagine learning how to count it must be difficult.
Like teapot said in this video: relics just need some much needed differentiation… the old rune system suffered from the same issues of “options” that were all just 5% damage buffs
@@NightmareCourtPictures you must have missed the part where theres only about 3 useful relics. And thus the whole point. A half baked system that could have been great if implemented correctly. But instead just a much worse t6 system with a middle finger to the people that made lege runes.
I dont think i Anet will implement dps meter,i play many mmo's in my life and been in this game for half a year as much as i love this game it just infested with too many "toxic casual",no im not talking about casual player who just want to having fun because a im one my self,but the toxic casual the type of people who againts anykind of growth or improvement and challanges,tools like dps meter is kryptonite to them they callit toxic tool because it promotes people to get better,they dont want people to get better they want people to be like them, a bottom barrel and sadly they are the loudest voice in the game
Oh it's been a month already? I stopped playing a few days into it. Let's see if I should come back.
no one cares
@@syazmanlyman Ok. The tree loves you. Bless the tree. Long live the tree.
The truth is all real talent of Anet left with the layoffs , now they will just reuse stuff year after year. Then what? we reach mastery lvl 999 ?? masteries most of them useable in their respective maps? Soto maps were a let down to me, very little to explore , the pleasure of getting the skyscale was the convinience after a long quest to get it and by making a mandatory way of moving around flying islands that are pretty much the smallest maps in the game was a bad decision. A mastery for mounts using updrafts , then another mastery for using little mashines that produce updrafts...what?
Addons are horrible, and while i like arcdps i only started to use it once golem existed in game. I also think taco and blish ruin the game and are absolutely too much info to enjoy the game
Dps meters are nothing but cancer.
like grades in school!
Dam dude you are leech.
yes u guys rely on programmer that quit playing this game cause it just s*cks :)
Didn't buy it but I assume it was a total failure.
Guild Wars 2 has died AGAIN!