Tennessee Titans Disaster Day In Philly, Jon Robinson's Mistakes Mount &
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- The Tennessee Titans big time loss to the Philadelphia Eagles was a culmination of mistakes made over the last few years. The AJ Brown trade, the busted draft picks of Caleb Farley and Isaiah Wilson and the lack of attention paid to the receiver position all showed up in a big way. Tyler goes over the worst day of JRob's career...probably. Next, #TitanUpTitanDown where there are more positives than maybe some would realize as Ryan Tannehill and Chig Okonkwo had good days. Finally, we hit the Titan Down where the offensive tackles and cornerbacks really struggled.
Tennessee Titans Disaster Day In Philly, Jon Robinson's Mistakes Mount & #TitanUpTitanDown
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Big slap to the face. Go get that ring A.J. Best of luck. Was hoping J Rob saw something we didn’t when he traded A.J.. Today proved we weren’t wrong. Treylon has been playing great and today he caught a helluva pass for a TD. I just don’t see how you replace an A.J. Brown. Still love my 2-Tone, just feeling the disappointment
Understandable
Burks IS the replacement had he not gotten headshoted on that amazing catch we would’ve at least had a shot also if we are being honest with ourselves he’s arguably the best offensive weapon we have
@@christianawori5902 not disagreeing that Burks “Is” the replacement. Not denying his potential or his current contributions. Of the two, one receiver finished the game with multiple TD’s. We wouldn’t have to spend time developing A.J.. He knew the system and what was expected of his role.Not denying Burks ability or talent. Love watching him play. Personally I think the money should’ve went into the O-line. As it is, Tanny isn’t getting time, regardless of who’s out to catch passes and Derrick has no lanes. Personally, I just need a hug after this one🤣✌🏻
Thank you bruh for being honest i said this shit all season and after the trade complete cheap and idiots trying to be bill belichic in tennessee 😂
This is an ownership issue. Peter King compared the Titans franchise to the Tampa Bay rays: ownership will let premium talent walk to save money and for prospects. Amy wasnt willing to set the wide receiver market and it’s looking like she isn’t willing to set the DT market with big Jeff.
AJ didn't even set the WR market. But he should have.
William I said this on Twitter Sunday and everyone said I was dumb.
@@mikegustafson58 I would say are wide receivers are just as much of an issue.Players like Aj are tough to find, it’s why teams pay them a lot of money to keep them.You can’t just trade him and expect to replace him with a rookie.Treylon will probably never be as good as Aj.It’s unfair to him to expect it.Ajs one of the top receivers in the league.You have to pay a player like that.Dude is obsessed with us and mentioned in his press conference yesterday that he wanted to retire a titan.I personally put this on ownership.Team just doesn’t value a receiver like that.
@@mikegustafson58 No they didn't pay Landry, Hooker and Simmons - Those guys were always getting paid.
They CHOSE Lewan, Woods, Cunningham, and Dupree, & paid them $40 million for about $8 million of production this year over A.J., Quisenberry, Saffold, jayon brown. With those guys we would have had an offense and a linebacker who can cover. Instead we got a big old nothing. and I said this at the time, this is not hindsight. Anyone who has been watching football for the last 15 years knows that you need dependable consistent offensive line and you need good WRs 10x more than you need a tackle who hasn't been healthy since 2019, a run thumping MLB like cunningham that can do nothing else, and OLB that is very good against the run and pretty decent rushing the passer considering that, and a small broken down #2 reciever that is 33 and coming off an ACL.
😂 told y’all the cheapest fuckn organization in sports
Watching very early yesterday, I got that gut crappy feeling that we just aren’t going to compete this year. Yesterday proved it and the way Vrabel is talking it makes it sound like it even more.
Well I think they are competing each week but they just don’t have the talent to beat the big dogs when it counts. So I get it.
@@LockedOnTitans Should’ve been more specific and said against good teams. Really felt like the Buffalo game was a fluke, and we played KC down into OT. Thought this team was better, they’re just not.
Grable said he would rather coach players instead of them having the talent
Titans / vrabel and Robinson trying to play 1960s football with Same running play over and having only 1 WR thinking they can win a super-bowl 😂
Been 25 years of this
😂but this is what the front office left him with look at this fuckn roster nothing at all
Im an Eagles fan and I watched your last podcast when u said play zone and not man and yall did the exact opposite and AJ went off. Also, we had like 9 in the box (we never do that) and yall ran Henry into a wall all game and I just couldnt figure out what the gameplan was for Tennessee, honestly. Tannehill is mid at best with no playmakers u cant just ride Henry to a super bowl. I can definitely understand your frustration
Thank you lol
Underrated bad move by JRob: passing on Tunsil in the draft in favor of Conklin and then not keeping Conklin. Tunsil would be a rock solid Titan and would have made lewan expendable before he broke down
THIS is never talked about enough.
Man you can’t hold that against him. Tunsil gas mask thing.
@@LockedOnTitans bro I'm an eagles fan, but who cares? You can't draft felons or serious issues, but who actually cares about weed? You're passing on serious talent for bs.
Its hard being a Titans fans ... We had a real Superbowl window the last 3 years and the front office just whiffs it away.
I know , and we are prob losing big Jeff I’m really considering after 20+ years to cheer for different team !
If ownership doesn’t care about premium talent and hold no accountability for whiff why are we cheering for this team ?
Yep it’s over
@@SpicejackCurrie so look for another team. I've been a fan of this organization since the the 80s and I'm going to be here until the day I die
@@LockedOnTitans our luck chiggy will develop into a top tier TE and we lose him after 3-4 season because we won’t pay him lol
Small sample size but he / chiggy looks legit just keep feeding him ,
@@SpicejackCurrie I just think they have to plan for his size and strength. They’ll need a strong blocking TE to pair with him.
I've continued to rationalize the fact that Amy Adams wouldn't pay AJ because of a coaching philosophy/combined with the expenses of the future stadium/defense contracts.
Regardless, trading Brown away makes no sense. It makes no fucking sense.
It makes me feel like they are pissing in my face. The amount of $$ I've spent on tickets and whatnot. Oh you got a beer garden. COOL.
Yep cash flow issue
That’s 🧢. They poorly manage money: if you know that the team is cash strapped then why do you sign trash players like Clowney,Beasley,Julio,Woods, Tannehill restructure. That’s why the Titans are bad!
@@LockedOnTitans the continued story is 'how could the Titans be so dumb to send Brown away?"
The reality is the Stadium deal requires a huge check, Amy Adams has one of the fewest sets of liquid assets within the entire owner pool, we decided to massively pay Tannehill when he emerged from a decade long QB slump, we paid Henry an incredibly high number for a running back, and we still had to worry about Autry, Simmons, and Landry...and Byard..
You can't have all of those things like up in two years and also have a somewhat cash-poor owner. It's an unfortunate reality of being a small market team.
That said... I do think there were some misvaluations (?) that have happened in the process..
@@mhvacr_ I think you're correct. I believe they couldn't afford AJ brown, but I think various contracts with players that ended up being average plus the stadium ended up creating a situation where she simply didn't have the cash. Especially when you look at the defensive rookie contracts about to expire. Jeff Simmons being the biggest one.
@@zenunderground why does a “cash strapped” owner need a new stadium? What have the Titans ever won to deserve a new stadium?
This is why I can’t be a real fan of this team! The bad GM JBob destroyed this teams present and future, if Vrabel is smart he will jump ship as soon as he can.
-Aging high paid Henry( no real backup)
-Mediocre Tannehill( accounting for over $40m on the salary cap.. unbelievable)
- Terrible Oline( poor drafting and player selections and signings
- No WR corps( traded AJ for much less than equal value)
- No offensive creativity ( Todd Downing still OC)
- No real #1 CB ( Farley Bust.. thanks JBob, Fulton got exposed in Cin last year and Sunday vs Philly)
That’s just to name a few, this team is flawed starting from the top. I like Vrabel but I don’t think he can be successful with this leadership.
I tried to warn folks after that GB game to not get their hopes up.
People were so mad when I said they would lose these two games
My super bowl watch is deactivated
LMAO
This is gonna be an interesting offseason. Too many holes to fill in the draft…no real money to spend in free agency…murmurs of the organization not having the actual cash to pay Simmons…where do we go? If we trade Simmons because we can’t pay him we might as well just tear it down. What should we do? Tear it down? Try our best to retool the offense (it can’t be done in 1 offseason)? Just add a piece here or there and compete for the division again next year (stay the course)?
Yeah that’s a lot of good truth there. So many things need addressed now it seems to be spiraling 🌀 downward for now. The good news is that we will still have an ok season with the room for improvement for the future if j rob can redeem some of his bad past picks this off season.
@@hownotto4067 what would you like to see the team do? This is a pretty important off season…do we extend Tannehill or let him go into a lame duck season? How do we fix the OLine? How do we fix the WR room? I think both Lewan and Woods will be cut but then who gets put into those slots? I’m very torn because I don’t want this team to be bad but at the same time I don’t see the path to anything other than mediocrity right now. Would Vrabel actually stick around for a rebuild? Will he stick around for a mediocre team? I’m down on Jon Robinson but he’s not going anywhere and honestly he’s earned the chance to either right the ship or go full rebuild.
Good question.. I personally think the teams best interest would be to try to go with a new offensive coordinator starting now. Or soon. And mix the play off of 1960s style information runs to a shotgun or pistol with malik Willis. See what he can do. Then draft more o line in off season and try to pay Simmons and our defense. Get rid of bud Dupree he’s always injured. Maybe draft lb as well. And try to get another wr in draft
@@hownotto4067 it’s gonna be tough to draft OLine WR Edge DB and LB all in one draft and have them all or mostly all be good though. JRob definitely has his work cut out for him we will see how he handles it…I have very very little faith in him drafting offensive line though…
@@chrislambert2443 definitely don’t extend Tannehill.Dude is incredibly average, we aren’t winning with and paying him all that money is already hurting us on building a roster.We could do so much if we could just get his contract off the books.
The AJ Brown trade had everyone scratching their head bcuz EVERY Titans fan said that our number one need coming into the draft was WR to pair with AJ and OL to help Tanny and Henry.So trading AJ put us back at square one.This year we have no choice but to do a complete rehaul to our OL.We can draft WR, but what good is it gonna do if Tanny isn't protected? What good is Henry if he can't get blocking.The foundation of offense and defense is at the line.Thats why the secondary has looked better than it actually has this year, w/o autry simmons has no help.Here are some under the radar prospects COLLEGE PROSPECTS
1.WR Ali Jennings Old dominion, WR Keylin Stokes Tulsa, WR Kris Thornton James Madison, Jamari Thrash Georgia state
2.LB Jaques Evans Western kentucky, LDB Jaiden Cole Louisiana Tech
3.DT 99 Texas, Keondre Coburn
4.CB Steven Jones Jr Appalachian State, CB lance boykin coastal carolina
Yup, as an Eagles fan I can say this was the perfect storm for the Birds as our OL takes a back seat to nobody and as always they were able to protect Jalen which allowed them to attack, attack, attack the Titans vulnerable secondary. Like all Eagles fans I was nervous about this game but it was clear from the beginning that we were winning the war in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Never in a million years did I expect our D to hold Henry to 30 yards on 11 carries but I was thrilled to death to see it happen.
@@hondaphan4172 - Eagles D was so good against the run that Tannehill was the leading ground gainer for the Titans.
Tyler agree with you 100%, Dl hasn’t looked the same without Autry there , I was wondering why they didn’t put radunz in instead brewer? O line def needs some help , wr room needs help , secondary needs help ! Ownership needs spend some money this off season , football isn’t the same as it was 30-50 years ago your going have to spend money to make money not just get rookie and then let them walk when it comes time to pay them , he’ll no point building a 2.1 billion dollar stadium have same success of the 09-17 titan teams 🤷🏻♂️
Vrabel won’t make any changes. Just tells the players to be better.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes Ohio state job ! I hate that after game just got to be better bullshit
The tannehill contract was also extremely low IQ by Robinson as well. Pay a guy who hasn't been able to get it done without a stacked team around him. Now it's hard to bench him for someone like Willis to get experience. Titans are going to be for a while because their in transition limbo. Their window ended and they didn't make it happen.
“J Rob won’t be fired”. That didn’t age well lol
So my question becomes..Why not start the process of transitioning to Malik developing and giving some of the younger talent opportunities. Maybe bring up practice squad players and just blow it up. I think it's about time if we lose one or two more in a row we're done stick a fork in this season. I like Tannehill but it's time. Jrob fumbled the superb superbowl window. Time to move on from Tannehill, lewan, byard, Dupree, Henry, Ben jones, Robert woods, mlb from Texans forgot his name lol but it Maybe time for major change
Dang, you wanna drop everyone.Sheesh.I don’t think we need to go that drastic.
We aren't a playoff team and I've been saying that. Why not give Willis and the rest of the young guys reps. Tanny contract I think prohibits getting rid of him unless we can trade and split the dead cap. I'd keep Henry for the rest of his contract but the other guys can go. I'd rather us get a better draft pick than to make it to the playoffs just to get embarrassed in the first game. We need to see if some of these other guys need to be replaced
I think you’ll see a bit of this in the off-season.
Someone needs to mention the Awful Gameplan VRabel had this week. He has the EDGEs trying to pin Hurts in the pocket instead of all out rushing, and they played man most of the game. The Titans are good at zone, not at man. Those CBs were one-on-one all day with little safety help. This is the opposite philosophy Vrabel has had Dean Pees left.
Vrabel decided they were going to stop the run no matter what even if the other team had 400 yards and 4 tds passing, and they almost did.
I tried to tell em lol
My 9-year vet who can't diagnose pressure tannehill he is who he is he stinks
He is annoyingly average lol
The titans are only even a competent team now bc the QB has been playing extremely well since he came back with no help anywhere. The line can't block for him or henry so henry has averaged 2.77 yards a carry since the qb came back 4 weeks ago. Qb hasn't had a turnover worthy play since he came back from the ankle that is still bad btw. the int to GB was just a spectacular play. CB was in the box, playing the run, and he must have been coached to run directly to that spot if he thought it was a fake, because of course the titans run the same plays over and over and over and expect they can still win like when they had studs everywhere.
The CB just turned and sprinted to that spot and tannehill isn't supposed to look for guys that aren't going to be there. anyway this team has much worse talent than they did in 2018. much much worse. the QB is just a lot better. If QB leaves next year they are going to have a 4 win season.
We ain't going to super bowl we will make it to playoffs and I feel bad for the rookies and I feel bad Ryan tanniehill
Well Tannehill blew their best chance last year so I don’t feel bad for him. He deserves this.
Titan down to Vrabel and Bowen also, Why are they in cover 1 against these receivers
Not sure why they won’t adjust
JRob should have been fired the day he let AJ go & Henry needs to get out of there before the Titans completely destroy his career!
Unless the owner refused to pay AJ
F I R E J B O B ‼️
We just need to go shotgun rest of the season lol we ain’t running on nobody now everybody has figured it out and Henry looks a step slower
We cant score 14 points on average and expect to ever go anywhere in the playoffs. Something on offense needs changed now.
With a bad OL and bad WRs? Idk man…
I think they have quit practice.look at henry he looks like he has give up.
the owner cheap as hell i would quit to watch they’ll trade everyone and it’ll be hell for a decade once again this ownership has to go either make them get competitive or sell the damn team NFL they did it with the other teams that kept collecting checks tired of Titans doing this
I think it is time to start looking and placing blame on Amy Adams. She is not one of the “richest” owners in the nfl. Is it possible that she told JRob how much she could spend on AJ? With JRob knowing that figure that is why the trade was done? Also with Big Jeff still without a contract, does she have the available funds for his contract?
CORRECT!!
Totally disagree, you have to look at the bad money that JBob has spent . Bad FA signings are costing us, that Tannehill contract is costing us. Bad cap management has costed us. She gave him money and he pissed it away!
Mr.Tyler thank you for your work,,I mean your literally the first titans podcast I listen too before the others I follow,, your breakdown and analysis each game and from each player is GRADE A and Most importantly HONEST…
Thank you so much! That’s my goal!
Same ol' same ol', Offensive line is crap, no dependable #1 receiver, no above average tight end, bad offensive coordinator, weak corners; all of these can be traced back to bad decisions by J Rob. Got to face it. And now a new twist, the defense is dropping like flies. Injury city. It's going to be a long season, but we got to enjoy the good times when they come.
Like most years of being a Titans fan
Do you think AAS will trust JROB to rebuild this thing?
I mean she trusted him once and it was kind of a success I guess.Jrob has completely turned this franchise around.I know it’s hard to see it given how this game and season have gone.He’s made some mistakes which are really hurting us right now though.Every Gm has there mistakes though.Every eagles fan wanted there gm howie rose man fired and he’s really turned his team around and they all love him now.
Oh absolutely. Can we trust Amy to pay big time players?
I was completely emotionally prepared to lose this game.
But, that dirty helmet to helmet hit on Treylon Burks completely fired me up. Sure, the Eagles still would have won, but we were robbed of seeing how much of an effect Burks would have had for the rest of the game.
Barely hit the helmet. You try being accurate on a moving target
Would’ve been a closer game for sure even if they still lose
These Yo-Yo's Want A New Stadium ! HaHa
Is Simmons leaving!?
That seems what is going to be happened. J rob syndrome
Titans told him they don’t know where they are going to get his money from
* *A day later...* *
This game in my opinion exposed Jon Robinson for the fraud he his. He can’t draft, he can’t get an offensive lineman, much less a whole offensive Line, can’t draft a corner to save his life, and when he has good offensive players…pays Geoff “Can’t play football” Swaim and gets rid a great player. At a minimum, his job should be on the hot seat,and it should be scorching. Also, fire Ackerman and Downing.
Well it exposed his mistakes for sure but this team has made the playoffs multiple years running so let’s not act like he’s bad lol
I guess accountability is on Jon Robinson.
he jinx us