Exploring the good ol' Cassette Tape

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @erichobbs4042
    @erichobbs4042 7 лет назад +2604

    When I was growing up I thought that the metal setting on my cassette player was for playing Black Sabbath tapes.

    • @wildbilltexas
      @wildbilltexas 7 лет назад +181

      LOL I remember looking at blank cassettes at Sound Warehouse, and a older lady asked me if Metal tapes were for recording rock or metal music.

    • @Beardwhip
      @Beardwhip 7 лет назад +22

      you win

    • @doriis009
      @doriis009 6 лет назад +31

      I thought so too, I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one.

    • @lucasvaughn629
      @lucasvaughn629 6 лет назад +13

      Brutal

    • @uhmgunnagitchyuh
      @uhmgunnagitchyuh 6 лет назад +50

      YES! I thought it was a custom equalizer setting that was tuned for "metal" music. This whole time....

  • @ej_tech
    @ej_tech 6 лет назад +2744

    Can we just appreciate the several minutes worth of audio comparison instead of a short 15 second listen?

    • @annihilator247x
      @annihilator247x 6 лет назад +80

      EJ Tech I was really hoping it would be at least 30 seconds but I was so glad it was nearly the whole song (he cut the song up a bit)

    • @miguelsojo3376
      @miguelsojo3376 6 лет назад +11

      Wich song it is?

    • @Arragon5xpwm
      @Arragon5xpwm 6 лет назад +60

      This one open.spotify.com/track/1ByASri0XalqAKKjgtfhbB?si=wjvl_N5DQR2S7fJT5lmA-w

    • @tropickslol
      @tropickslol 6 лет назад +2

      good job, dude!

    • @K-o-R
      @K-o-R 6 лет назад +8

      It sounds like the BBC Video theme.

  • @thethrashyone
    @thethrashyone 7 лет назад +564

    It's amazing how much more pronounced the treble is with Type IV tape.

    • @secularnevrosis
      @secularnevrosis 7 лет назад +61

      Much better frequency response and less hiss could be had due to the biasing.

    • @videolabguy
      @videolabguy 6 лет назад +48

      I noticed this too. It is as much about the lower signal distortion as well. I loved the low end on type 4. Clear, deep and powerful. Not muddy like the other three tapes.

    • @keithbrown7685
      @keithbrown7685 6 лет назад +11

      I've heard it called 'more present', and that sums it up for me.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 6 лет назад +20

      Type I - Normal, Type II - Chrome, Type IV - Brütal!!!!

    • @liteoner
      @liteoner 5 лет назад +19

      Type IV sounded much better, but I can't help to wonder if because it was simply louder. When gain corrected would it still sound better?

  • @linksmith1057
    @linksmith1057 5 лет назад +115

    I love how perfectly the VU Meter shows the difference between the tape types. You can clearly see the Metal tape has a way signal on it.

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing 4 года назад +91

    Pretty blown away by the amount of time and effort that went into recording/editing that comparison sequence. Top tier content.

  • @JoeySchmidt74
    @JoeySchmidt74 7 лет назад +400

    Also, that was a master class in editing sir.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 6 лет назад +152

    12:05 It becomes easier to tell once the percussion and rhythm kick in. Full-spectrum sound really brings out the difference.

    • @hammyboigaming904
      @hammyboigaming904 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, the type I tape couldn't recreate it properly

  • @Kitteh.B
    @Kitteh.B 5 лет назад +152

    The quality of the type 2 and 4 tapes blew my mind, and so far I've only listened on my phone... I'm gonna rewatch this on my PC using reference monitors and an I/O.
    I also appreciate how much effort went in to seamlessly making the A/B/C/D comparison between the four tapes, especially considering there was no (direct) digital timecode to go by!

  •  4 года назад +29

    That long comparison part is easily one of your best moments. Regularly getting back here to just listen to that.

    • @matt.willoughby
      @matt.willoughby Год назад +1

      I would like to know the piece of music and see the composer credited

    • @LittleDancerByGrace
      @LittleDancerByGrace Год назад +1

      @@matt.willoughby It's in the video description.

  • @DrScrobo
    @DrScrobo 3 года назад +30

    Man that Maxell Type II really hit me in "the feels". So many 10 packs over the years. Thanks so much for this video! It was amazing!

    • @shawnmyers1880
      @shawnmyers1880 2 года назад +1

      I still have an unopened 8 pack in a moving box somewhere in my closet

  • @VulpesFidelis
    @VulpesFidelis 6 лет назад +757

    The metal tape sounded dope AF.

    • @JuanDaMajikOne
      @JuanDaMajikOne 5 лет назад +50

      It has a certain awesome sound quality. I remember cherishing my metal tapes. Not only because they sounded awesome but because they were expensive too.

    • @denniswalsh8476
      @denniswalsh8476 4 года назад +9

      Long play chromium dioxide (metal) tape is very hard to get and very expensive these days.

    • @Shadowman820
      @Shadowman820 4 года назад +3

      My dad had metal tapes sometimes to record stuff . Unfortunatly as far as I know Metal tapes were rarely used for pre recorded music .

    • @whaduzitmatr
      @whaduzitmatr 4 года назад +30

      I work for a DJ company and they had a case of 100 Metal Tapes they were going to just throw away Im like dude I want these and they let me take them all

    • @Shadowman820
      @Shadowman820 4 года назад +5

      @@whaduzitmatr Cassette tapes at least allot of standard ones tended to stop playing right after some years . Were metal tapes subject to this as well or was that just the cheaper Cassette tape types ?

  • @lancairw867
    @lancairw867 6 лет назад +64

    I’m in my 40s and just bought a 80s JVC deck and a cheap Sanyo all in one stereo with dual tape decks. My young son loves making recordings on cassette tapes and I kinda of miss the sound as well. Long live tape 😄👍🏻 passed on to him the knowledge of how to manually rewind the tape with a pencil ✏️ as well.

    • @basscharenborg6441
      @basscharenborg6441 4 года назад +1

      Yes(!), the pencil trick! I'm 25 in october, but as a kid LOVED cassette's and i still do😌 📼 ♥️

    • @shelliecarlson7015
      @shelliecarlson7015 4 года назад +1

      I'm 54 and loved cassettes. I finally found a usable Walkman and fell back in love. Last Friday I bought a receiver and the next day I found a good Sony deck. It sounds really good after I cleaned the head and pinch roller. I can not wait for Seether's new cd to get here so I can record it to a good cassette to carry with me.

    • @MatrixAlphaCWX
      @MatrixAlphaCWX 4 года назад

      Cassette's are back in guys.
      So bring out those older bad ass hi-fi systems.
      Not the new crappy ones! I have a Sony ZX6 dual cassette.

    • @TheAmazingDoorknob
      @TheAmazingDoorknob 3 года назад +1

      I wish I had a cassette recorder

    • @timf-tinkering
      @timf-tinkering 2 года назад

      But pencils don't actally fit the spools, and never have done. The only writing implement that fits perfectly is the Bic Cristal ballpoint pen.

  • @jake105
    @jake105 7 лет назад +31

    I loved my old Technics M218. I remember buying it in 1982 at Pacific Stereo in Monterey Calif. The salesman stuck a metal cassette tape of John Klemmer to have me listen to the sound before buying. He boxed it up for me and sure enough when I got home, the cassette was still in the player.

  • @MJ-uk6lu
    @MJ-uk6lu 5 лет назад +14

    I saw this video in the past and I still come back to watch it again. There's something really captivating in looking at tape deck doing its stuff. Slowly spinning tape is soothing.

    • @jocknarn3225
      @jocknarn3225 2 года назад

      Steely Dan’s Donald Fagen once quipped, “I just love to watch the reels spinning”, make of that what u will but I love the format

  • @willywonka3050
    @willywonka3050 3 года назад +52

    Cassettes were the music/audio format of my youth even though I was born in 2002, long after they became obsolete in the US. In China these things were insanely abundant, so I didn't have any reverence or care towards them, unlike vinyl. The main reason was that I only had crappy off-brand portable players and cheap Type 1 tapes, not quality Technics decks and Type II tapes. I even recorded over pre-recorded tapes with my own music - which now feels like a crime akin to sanding off the grooves of a record.

    • @ldmtag
      @ldmtag Год назад +7

      I grew up in Khabarovsk, far eastern Russia, we had the same thing. My sister bought then-new Rammstein album Rosenrot on a cassette, it was 2006 or so. And I know cassettes remained relevant for some time, pretty sure folks still record them for their old used japanese cars to play

    • @joseislanio8910
      @joseislanio8910 Год назад +1

      Can relate. I was born in 92, so tapes were the way to go up to mid 2000s, when I got an used CD player and burned my CDs at a LAN house

    • @keit99
      @keit99 Год назад +2

      We had lots of children's stories recorded on cassettes so even my little sister who was born in '03 still grew up with them.

    • @Leo_nbd
      @Leo_nbd Год назад +1

      I can relate to experiencing technology that was already obsolete in places like the US, Canada & Europe. Being born in South America in the late 90s, my childhood was fueled by VHS.

    • @johnmaki3046
      @johnmaki3046 Год назад +2

      we all do dumb things! Don't regret MAKING YOUR OWN MUSIC! You MAY be the NEXT "American Idol"! Who REALLY KNOWS what is "awesome"?

  • @SeanHH1986
    @SeanHH1986 7 лет назад +68

    the sound you can achieve with metal cassettes is pretty astounding. add to that the fact that these blank tapes may have been manufactured 10+ years ago...and wow.

    • @SeanHH1986
      @SeanHH1986 7 лет назад +2

      aaaaaand now im bimge watching all your stuff lol.

    • @SeanHH1986
      @SeanHH1986 7 лет назад

      *binge

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 7 лет назад +18

      10+? Try 25+ for the TDK metal one and nearly 20 for the Normal Sony and Chrome Maxell.

    • @djbluejazz7349
      @djbluejazz7349 5 лет назад

      Feels so good

    • @ericochoa4034
      @ericochoa4034 5 лет назад +4

      Super ferrics and good type 2 can sound really good as well.

  • @ValexNihilist
    @ValexNihilist 5 лет назад +20

    Thank you for switching the tape types back and forth multiple times to show the difference. So many examples I can think of in videos where they compare things once and you really don't get the feel of the difference...and extra kudos for switching them to the beat at one point lol

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_ 5 лет назад +28

    not going to lie that song from youtube audio library actually dope af. so soothing but punchy.

  • @RS250Squid
    @RS250Squid 4 года назад +114

    Me starting the tape: "Geez, it's a cassette tape, how hard can it be?"
    Me two minutes later: *taking notes*

  • @denisohbrien
    @denisohbrien 5 лет назад +30

    I remember when I discovered metal tapes, I was sold, blew me away how good they sounded, also remember when a tape was "high speed dubbed" it usually came out sounding better / more faithful to the origional.

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 6 лет назад +219

    Its nuts to think you can actually hear the differences between the tape types even through RUclips.... But I know from experience the differences because I had some Audiophile family friends when I was growing up. And, I have in fact, seen one (and I do mean ONE) tape machine that had a type III setting. I believe it was my godfather that owned a machine with type I, type III and type IV settings. This was many years ago, but I am 90% sure he had a tape deck with a type III setting. He literally had a home theater/listening room set up in the basement of his house, and this was the late 1980s, early 1990s. I remember a giant rear projection TV, lots of speakers and tons of high end equipment. He likely had $50,000.00 to $70,000.00 worth of equipment he had collected over the years. I wish I had been old enough to understand more of what I was seeing then, I could be a lot more positive on what all he had.

    • @theblackwidower
      @theblackwidower 6 лет назад +9

      So you can actually hear the difference? Because they legitimately sound the same to me.

    • @ElectricBarrier
      @ElectricBarrier 6 лет назад +21

      @@theblackwidower Try listening with some headphones on.

    • @xboys_archive
      @xboys_archive 5 лет назад +15

      T Duke Perry WOW the difference is insane bass treble fidelity and I'm not even using head phones

    • @mlbslugger62
      @mlbslugger62 5 лет назад +8

      @@theblackwidower You sound like a candidate for the perfect 8 track customer ;) I can hear the diff!

    • @Rudolf_Edward
      @Rudolf_Edward 5 лет назад +16

      You defenitely can hear the difference. RUclips codecs are not THAT bad for this purpose, this video. Or is it that i'm worried about the hearing skills of the youth? The people replying here? I'm 48 years old and still can hear frequencies up to 18 kHz. The cassette format is a great one: despite all the shortcomings (low tape speed) all the efforts they thought of (better tape formula) to make a crappy format worthwile. Thumbs up.

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d 4 года назад +10

    the difference in quality between each type of tape was surprising to me. Definitely perceptible at each step. and thanks for making such a thorough demonstration!

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker 7 лет назад +253

    its also amazing how society has changed... kids making mix tapes at the house of whoever had the dual deck ghettoblaster was fine. Today however even without wide network file sharing if you give a friend a thumb drive with music the RIAA thinks you just robbed Fort Knox.

    • @thatsunpossible312
      @thatsunpossible312 6 лет назад +65

      It's gotten even worse. Now they are complaining that people are "stealing" by recording from RUclips. Copyright has gotten way out of hand, far too protective of even long-dead creators.

    • @jackallen6261
      @jackallen6261 5 лет назад +48

      The crazy part to me is bands like Metallica got their start by people sharing recordings of their club shows and without that they may have never took off, now they want to sue for listening to their songs in the next car, lol.

    • @cr-pol
      @cr-pol 5 лет назад +34

      The RIAA was hardly just "fine" with making mix tapes. They fought for a tax on each blank cassette sold after they failed in an effort to minimize the efficiency of music recording. The Brits had their own thing going, cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*0BP4ttnCAtEbKQ-BO_p3MQ.jpeg but as with the RIAA did not get a blank cassette tax though several European countries did create such a tax.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 5 лет назад +25

      The RIAA have always been fighting music share, this is hardly new and their fight just moved to the next media and source of piracy.
      It's also interesting how people equate sharing a few songs socially with sharing and distributing entire music libraries. While in both cases music is being recorded/copied but the intent and amount has changed greatly. There is a certain level of cognitive dissonance required.

    • @tubeducky
      @tubeducky 5 лет назад +11

      In some music genres, like house, acid, and a few other EDM subgenres, "bootleg" mixes (and "mixtapes") are still a common thing, and are considered an honour by the artist when such a thing occurs. Still not the same as old-school mixtapes, but the same principle applies.

  • @JAzzWoods-ik4vv
    @JAzzWoods-ik4vv 5 лет назад +450

    Me, buying a cassette deck on 2019:
    “I just think they’re neat”

    • @kebm1388
      @kebm1388 5 лет назад +35

      Me too. I'm so glad there are bands that still release on cassette

    • @war13death
      @war13death 4 года назад +11

      @@thesherlockhound Cassette has always sounded better than cd, you just never noticed it.

    • @painkillerjones6232
      @painkillerjones6232 4 года назад +10

      @@war13death I'm going to have to disagree with that, and I'm one of those who prefers vinyl over CD's..

    • @martyzielinski2469
      @martyzielinski2469 4 года назад +1

      J. Az. Woods - Couldn’t help but think of that one too!

    • @TheHSIHP
      @TheHSIHP 4 года назад +2

      That's all that matters.

  • @jakemustian99
    @jakemustian99 2 года назад +5

    The several minutes of audio and watching Bob Ross paint are the two most relaxing things I can think of. And I'm taking a relaxing hot soak rn

  • @shadowwalker23901
    @shadowwalker23901 7 лет назад +184

    I could only hear a very small improvement from type I to type II, but from type II to type IV was a wow moment. I grew up in the tape to CD transition, did not know about metal tapes sounding so good. If you in for another shocker check out dbx on old school records, that was another wtf moment for me.

    • @macnerd93
      @macnerd93 6 лет назад +4

      They also have DBX Tape decks I have a Technics with it built in. No hiss whatsoever,

    • @HamtaroEL
      @HamtaroEL 6 лет назад

      macnerd93 RS-B100 sprung to mind. Ultimate RS-B series Technics deck. :-D

    • @TheRockinDonkey
      @TheRockinDonkey 6 лет назад +6

      I had a friend that bought a Denon Metal tape in 1989. $10.00 for one blank cassette.

    • @Schwarzorn
      @Schwarzorn 6 лет назад +3

      The jump from 1 to 2 is pretty significant too. It's like 1 didn't have any base, and then BAM! 2 hits you and you're like "Oh. This song has base?".

    • @oscarkorlowsky4938
      @oscarkorlowsky4938 6 лет назад +4

      They sound even better than CDs specially those with dbx noise reduction

  • @IanLindstrom
    @IanLindstrom 5 лет назад +29

    I watch countless videos about technology but this is the first time I've rocked out to one.
    Your videos are fantastic and utterly enjoyable.

  • @marty5300
    @marty5300 3 года назад +4

    I used to be fascinated watching the tape reels spin and watching the interaction between the heads and tape. I remember marveling at how simple yet elegant the design and concept was.

  • @nile2566
    @nile2566 4 года назад +31

    Even the "crappy" one sounded good enough for me, started collecting tapes earlier last year and it's such a cool experience

    • @johnmaki3046
      @johnmaki3046 Год назад +4

      Tapes were/are great! These were GREAT achievements!

  • @kodinamsinh1267
    @kodinamsinh1267 2 года назад +7

    Small correction: FeCr Type 3 tapes weren’t a combination of metal and chrome, but a combination of ferric and chrome.

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl 7 лет назад +536

    If you want to be a super hipster, make mixtapes with Hi-Fi VHS.

    • @josugambee3701
      @josugambee3701 7 лет назад +79

      Exactly! I bought a Hi-Fi VCR with EP at the thrift store for this very purpose! Not as portable though, but there's nothing quite like up to 8 hours of uninterrupted near-CD quality music for listening while you do homework. I also bought 2 copies of The Phantom Menace so I could record over them.

    • @Crlarl
      @Crlarl 7 лет назад +52

      Worth it. If you can find it, record over _Attack of the Clones._ That was *way* worse than _The Phantom Menace._

    • @hammerfix7241
      @hammerfix7241 7 лет назад +1

      i got a philips dcc deck for the same purpose. cant find the tapes tho.

    • @glennso47
      @glennso47 6 лет назад +6

      My wife had the Bible on cassette

    • @CanIUseYourJohn
      @CanIUseYourJohn 6 лет назад +1

      Damn that's actually brilliant

  • @moochincrawdad
    @moochincrawdad 7 лет назад +44

    Head alignment in auto reverse machines was always a problem with me, it got so bad once I refused to use the reverse mechanism one on of my cassette decks because of the drop off in high frequency. I think Nakamichi was bang on the money for refusing to use rotating heads.

    • @Solitaire001
      @Solitaire001 7 лет назад +5

      Concern about head alignment is the reason that I purchased a single-direction cassette deck with three heads (erase, record, and playback), and ability to adjust the deck to the specific tape I was using. A little bit of preparation and a good source would give me very good results.

    • @Zimmy_1981
      @Zimmy_1981 6 лет назад +1

      Solitaire001 what models like this u recommend?

    • @OldSlabSides
      @OldSlabSides 4 года назад +2

      That’s why you buy the Nakamichi RX-505, 3 head deck that auto reverses by flipping the entire tape...

  • @themichaeljacksonblogde2532
    @themichaeljacksonblogde2532 6 лет назад +6

    I am almost 16 and I grew up on em and I will never stop using them as my favorite audio medium.

  • @fiatpandaman999
    @fiatpandaman999 5 лет назад +3

    I had no idea there was such a difference between tape types and quality. One of the best demos I have seen. Have been watching for a few evenings now and I have to say I love the take taken in each subject and how clearly it's explained. Thanks!

  • @kendallbrown9301
    @kendallbrown9301 2 года назад +2

    i'm also a product of the 60's. i first used cassettes as a kid, around 1970, so i actually saw all of the developments you talked about. i even remember seeing the phrase "compact cassette" early on. in the late 80's, i went back to college (again) and got a degree in video and music business. in our first quarter audio tech class, the teacher explained how reel-to-reel tape recorders worked and how to properly use and maintain them for best results. i raised my hand and said "it's a wonder cassettes work at all." (he agreed with me.) the tape is both very narrow and very thin, and it travels at a very slow speed. you can't adjust the alignment of the tape heads (or anything), and although you can clean the transport and de-magnetize the heads, most people never do.

  • @charlescron4051
    @charlescron4051 8 лет назад +162

    type 3 were not a mixture of chrome and metal, they were a mixture of type 1 and type 2

    • @TechnologyConnections
      @TechnologyConnections  8 лет назад +141

      You are correct! Not until after reading your comment did the word "ferrochrome" come to mind. Thank you, it has been addressed in an annotation.

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix 8 лет назад +1

      they werent a mixture of anything FeCr tapes had their own formulation

    • @freeecountryy
      @freeecountryy 8 лет назад +10

      They were a mix. The problem was that they had layers, and the top layer would start to wear off after repeated use.

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 7 лет назад +7

      J R
      A lot of chromedioxide tapes are layered. Yes the layer pealed off in some occasions, but that wasn't the cause of it's obsolescence. The real problem was that the market never accepted type III (or way too slow) and manufacturers didn't implement proper bias settings for ferrochrome tapes...so it just never took off.

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 7 лет назад +7

      I recall type III tapes were recorded in the normal position but played back in the chrome position. There also were prerecorded chrome tapes that were played back on the normal position.

  • @dunebasher1971
    @dunebasher1971 6 лет назад +555

    "Do you use your dictaphone?"
    "No, I use my finger like everybody else"

  • @Neon8787
    @Neon8787 6 лет назад +8

    That was a very thorough comparison of the different cassettes available. Thanks for your hard work! I had no idea there was such a difference, and no idea a cassette could sound so good.

  • @PkmariO64
    @PkmariO64 5 лет назад +17

    Out of all the cassette tapes I’ve seen since I started collecting them, I’d say at least 60% of them were ferric-oxide and 30% were chrome. I have seen a handful of metal tapes (maybe 5 or 6), but only one ferric-chromium tape. The latter two command high prices, at least $20 a pop, with the metal ones being sought after for there sound quality whereas the ferric-chrome tapes are more so collectors’ items.

    • @davejones5745
      @davejones5745 3 года назад

      Got a couple of BASF type III's. They stay here...

  • @100percentSNAFU
    @100percentSNAFU 5 лет назад +13

    God, I remember being a teen in the early 90's and listening to the local rock station on my boom box with a tape cued up and ready to record. As soon as a song I liked came on, I hit record...free music! I also remember setting my VCR to record "headbanger's ball" on MTV, which was on from like midnight to 2AM on a weeknight. Got some good 80s and 90s heavy metal gold off that. And I still have some of the tapes, and a working VCR from 1984 to boot!

    • @bobmclaughlin7276
      @bobmclaughlin7276 Год назад

      I basically did the same thing.. I had a portable panasonic cassette recorder, in 1968..in my room, it was connected to a radio all ready to record... I still have that machine and most of those 'mixed tapes' from my early teen years... Listening to them is like a time machine... The tape player had a 'line in' jack.. The tapes came out pretty good.... Music from cklg 73 vancouver.. And ckvn.

    • @fryloc359
      @fryloc359 11 месяцев назад

      I did that too. I dont have any of those old videotapes anymore, but I may have one or two mixtapes.

    • @EpicTrainsCanada
      @EpicTrainsCanada 11 месяцев назад

      If you still have recordings of MTV when they actually played music, you should consider uploading them to the internet for all of us to enjoy!

  • @10072018
    @10072018 7 лет назад +51

    I never really had a problem with the sound quality of cassettes, it was the ever looming possibility of complete destruction any time I popped my favorite tape in the machine. That, and the stretching and warping and everything else that caused them to degrade the more you played them.

    • @xXcangjieXx
      @xXcangjieXx 6 лет назад +5

      10072018 That shouldn’t happen if you regurarly clean your heads with isopropyl

    • @pinkgnu
      @pinkgnu 6 лет назад +3

      yeah, i would never complain about sound quality on first play, but they were very easy to destroy. especially as a careless young child (who wouldn't even be allowed to touch the vinyl records)

    • @PhoenixNL72-DEGA-
      @PhoenixNL72-DEGA- 4 года назад +1

      That awefull sound when your favorite tape was being eaten.

    • @eastlynburkholder3559
      @eastlynburkholder3559 4 года назад

      @@xXcangjieXx
      Yeah and rubbing alchohol can be bought almost anywhere.

  • @JEMHull-gf9el
    @JEMHull-gf9el 7 лет назад +106

    this video makes me want to get all my tapes out of storage....

    • @100percentSNAFU
      @100percentSNAFU 5 лет назад +1

      My 2001 pickup truck had a tape deck in it. I had it until 2013 and still used the tape deck. My wife used to make fun of it. My newer truck of course doesn't have one. I kind of miss it, actually. I have old tapes from the 80's and 90's that were still fun to listen to, poor sound quality and all...with the exception of the few "metal" tapes I have, which actually still sound pretty good.

    • @DanielBrownsan
      @DanielBrownsan 5 лет назад +1

      Your partner threw them away years ago.

  • @timelord2222
    @timelord2222 6 лет назад +16

    5:46 "AC/DC BUILT IN" written on the cassette door, someone would think it has the Young brothers inside :)

  • @DanielLiljeberg
    @DanielLiljeberg 2 года назад +6

    The nostalgia of seeing a tape run and hearing the music is enough in itself It's like when I opened up a case of floppy discs to upgrade my synth a few years ago. My entire body had a reaction to holding them. With that said... Type 4 tapes sound pretty good still ;)

  • @robertquiggleiv8696
    @robertquiggleiv8696 4 года назад +6

    I remember getting old VHS and audio tapes from Goodwill and cramming some paper in the write protection slot to tape over them because they were cheaper than blanks. Good times.

  • @raychang8648
    @raychang8648 6 лет назад +8

    I had a car-battery charger hooked up to a car stereo (bare) "tape deck" on the floor of my empty grandpa's house when I was in middle school (with fairly decent speakers, I guess). I had a key to go there after school and enjoy my mix tape of Thomas Dolby's "Golden Age of Wireless", where I had replaced any songs I could with extended versions from vinyl. I'd listen to that almost every day, after walking home from school. My house was next door so after I had gotten my fix, I'd finally go home. (My Dad would sometimes need the battery charger, but he would always put it back there, because he knew I loved that tape and knew my habit.)

  • @kaioocarvalho
    @kaioocarvalho 7 лет назад +573

    It's so funny to witness people misjudging cassettes' sound clarity without any actual experience with them whilst listening to MP3 with cheap earbuds and not perceiving the quality loss of it.

    • @tubadude45
      @tubadude45 5 лет назад +97

      Spotify + apple earbuds = them thinking they know what hi quality sounds is

    • @Metroid4ever
      @Metroid4ever 5 лет назад +26

      This. I've used cheap earbuds and the sound quality is noticeable.

    • @Goabnb94
      @Goabnb94 5 лет назад +56

      People who think that hi-fi equipment is a waste of money because their 128kb/s MP3 ripped from RUclips sounds the same through $10 earbuds as through thousands of dollars in amps and speakers.

    • @thomasdavis4253
      @thomasdavis4253 5 лет назад +25

      Back in the early mp3 days, I had a 28.8k modem connection to the ”information super highway" (remember that phrase, 90s kids?) I used to download mp3s encoded at 128kbps as a compromise between download time/quality. I thought they sounded pretty good. Now, when I play back my old mp3s they are almost unbearable.

    • @thomasdavis4253
      @thomasdavis4253 5 лет назад +23

      @@tubadude45 I've found I don't enjoy listening to music over Bluetooth. I'm not an audio snob, but the quality loss is noticeable and slightly irritating.

  • @neurolepticer1284
    @neurolepticer1284 Год назад +10

    A tape from TDK(Metal II) + a tape deck from Technics were the absolute dream couple.

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee Год назад +3

      Yes!

    • @Left-handed-liberal
      @Left-handed-liberal Год назад +4

      My dad had an onkyo tape deck, Pioneer Amp and speakers. Our neighbors had to call my parents at work many many times when I discovered Rush & Pink Floyd 😎

  • @johndeeter4030
    @johndeeter4030 5 лет назад +28

    I still have a TON of CD's..AND who remembers"Is it live or is it Memorex"...(glass shatters)

    • @felgercarbful
      @felgercarbful 3 года назад +1

      I remember Memorex oxide flaking away. . . .

  • @orderd29
    @orderd29 3 года назад +2

    As a child of the 80s I grew up in the cassette era but after this video I have newfound respect for the format.

  • @redsquirrelftw
    @redsquirrelftw 5 лет назад +7

    Tapes were fun, I had an odd fascination with the concept of recording things as a kid. Like recording TV shoes on VHS, or recording music off the radio, or even recording my own voice and making edits etc. I sorta still did it when we got our first computer and I would mess with the sound in sound recorder then record it back etc. Also had a Talk Boy which could do it. (like in Home Alone). I still have a tape recorder and some tapes somewhere in the basement, I should pull that stuff out one day to mess with it again for nostalgia. I remember having fun with VHS and video capture/edit/recording too. The idea of being able to edit something on computer and putting it on a tape to play on TV just seemed so cool at the time. Now days it's easier with digital media which we take for granted.

  • @3Cr15w311
    @3Cr15w311 7 лет назад +18

    The biggest problem with the cassette format was the slow speed causing severe dulling of the treble when going from one deck to another if the head azimuth was the slightest bit off. It was important to adjust the azimuth on all your playback decks to match the one you were making your recordings on. Dolby noise reduction (especially Dolby C) magnified the dulling of treble due to azimuth problems. Recording on a high-end deck and playing back on that same deck totally hid this problem.

    • @HamtaroEL
      @HamtaroEL 7 лет назад +4

      3Cr15w311 That is why we have the Nakamichi Dragon's NAAC; to correct the alignment of all tapes.

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 4 года назад +4

    Thanks Alec!
    My school friends and I made awesome mixtapes. When auto-reverse became a big thing, we filled the entire cassette with music.
    On some tapes, there might have been two minutes worth of blank tape left unused. Morally we would have FF’d to the end, flipped the cassette and pressed play.
    Instead we filled those two minutes with a favourite track lasting three minutes, with a clever edit.
    We would record the LP track on to the tape, then stop the recording at a predetermined location using the Pause button. It usually meant rewinding a little as we always overshot the stopping point.
    Then we’d reset the track using the tone arm of the turntable and when the LP track reached the point where the track continued, we’d release the pause button and if all went well, there was a seamless transition cutting out several dozens of seconds from the track.
    The very best edits were ones where the percussion continued at the same pace.
    Now to get the same type of edit, you need software to load the track and get it queued up and then cut the portion you don’t want.
    But then why do it? Modern music ‘players’ don’t have ‘two minutes of blank tape’ at the end. They have megabytes of space.

    • @matt.willoughby
      @matt.willoughby Год назад

      Same thing. Empty tape or MB. Still the same entropy defying shitbthat won't last long ( in the grand scheme of things )

  • @MrROTD
    @MrROTD 5 лет назад +7

    This brings me back, to me a Chrome cassette was always more than good enough if you had a good deck

  • @shibolinemress8913
    @shibolinemress8913 3 года назад +34

    Who else loved making mix tapes from the radio, but HATED when the DJs talked over the start and/or end of the songs?
    I love how some bands made song intros that discouraged overtalking, like Kansas' Carry On Wayward Son or Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Both were genius!

    • @erikarabie
      @erikarabie Год назад +1

      I liked it. Kinda capturing radio history

  • @ChoboUnjeon
    @ChoboUnjeon 7 лет назад +94

    Someone who says that cassette tapes sound terrible must've had a cassette deck with Dolby NR and listened non Dolby cassettes with Dolby NR on.

    • @svenschwingel8632
      @svenschwingel8632 6 лет назад +19

      Or severely misaligned azimuth. That was always the main culprit when exchanging cassettes.

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 5 лет назад +6

      For me, it was extremely crappy type 1 tapes paired with a cheapo deck. Our Sony deck broke way back. Also, I had some perfectly mastered CDs to compare the sound quality to.

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 5 лет назад +3

      Even then, same of my best albums were remastered to cd from tape.

    • @PhoenixNL72-DEGA-
      @PhoenixNL72-DEGA- 4 года назад +1

      Or most likely is 12 years old and never really heard them back in the day and got his opinion from watching troll videos on youtube that play decayed ferro tapes on decks with filthy heads to prove their point. ;)

    • @Mostlyharmless1985
      @Mostlyharmless1985 4 года назад

      Meh, they were good enough. But Today’s low end consumer stuff blows anything that I could have obtained at 15 out of the water.

  • @teenflon
    @teenflon 6 лет назад +4

    This is my favorite video so far :) Enjoyed the tape comparison, I don't think many people would spend the time editing the video so seamlessly as this!

  • @kveeder3224
    @kveeder3224 6 лет назад +30

    7:56 Look there's a moth at the very right for a few seconds.

    • @jonr4651
      @jonr4651 4 года назад +8

      Also featured at 14:36 at the bottom left!

    • @joshuahsonjh
      @joshuahsonjh 3 года назад +1

      yes, at 7:59 from frames 28 to 33 there...looks the best on frame 31.

    • @GodzillaKaijuGK
      @GodzillaKaijuGK 4 месяца назад +1

      Paid actor

  • @jorgeaugusto1867
    @jorgeaugusto1867 4 года назад +6

    Now there's something I used extensively. Hours upon hours spent recording stuff from the radio, even when CDs became a thing.

  • @alangriffin8146
    @alangriffin8146 4 года назад +4

    That Type 4 tape sounds amazing. There was so much more in the music. Indistinguishable from modern formats.

  • @olaniyi570
    @olaniyi570 8 лет назад +6

    I still use these on a regular basis. Love the sound and versatility. Still have dozens of blanks that are sealed.

    • @Furienna
      @Furienna 4 года назад

      I don't use my cassettes much anymore (Spotify rules). But I kept many of them, including a few who are unused blanks.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 5 лет назад +208

    It's hilarious to imagine a bunch of hot-shot, old timey business men being afraid that people will think they're unmanly for being able to type!

    • @atimholt
      @atimholt 4 года назад +3

      Reminds me of Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive, except men don’t read or write at all.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 4 года назад +32

      Not being unable to type, but viewing it as “beneath their station.” Like a Queen knowing how to repair trucks. Oh wait, there is one!
      (As a young Princess during the war, she was one of the girls and women who staffed the army’s motor pool to free up men for fighting. Having the King’s daughters join in inspired many others.)

    • @PhoenixNL72-DEGA-
      @PhoenixNL72-DEGA- 4 года назад +6

      @@allanrichardson1468 Lol, was typing basically the same response when I noticed you saved me the trouble! ;)

    • @visualonestudio
      @visualonestudio 4 года назад +18

      Typing at the time was seen as making copies. The money was made in their business intelligence, relationships, finance abilities and negotiating skills. Typing something up was definitely not worth their time.

    • @brendancarlson1678
      @brendancarlson1678 4 года назад +2

      A big box of mechanical gadgets and buttons. And your company will give you one for asking.

  • @tbherath
    @tbherath 5 лет назад +3

    Hi TC!
    I was just amazed by watching your videos!!! You brought back my childhood memories alive. As a 90s' kid in Sri Lanka, I was lucky to mess up with all sorts of cassette players, even though the technology is a luxury in my part of the world. Specially in 1995, my brother had a full logic control deck by Kenwood. I was staring at that machine for hours and hours just to see how it automatically change the side of the cassette and the very first LCD analyzer of my life. Thanks for bringing those good old memories back ☺️

  • @alienrenders
    @alienrenders 4 года назад +7

    Ah, I remember seeing some tapes with the center notches. Never knew what they were. The Type II notches were actually fairly common back in the day.

  • @BennyBsolo
    @BennyBsolo 5 лет назад +2

    What a fantastic video !! I grew up reading and hearing these terms and never really understand their value until now. Thanks for taking the time to make this video , absolutely fascinating.

  • @WilburJaywright
    @WilburJaywright 2 года назад +3

    It seems that the two components of improved tape quality were noise and higher frequency response ability. The metal tapes didn’t seem to have any less noise the chromium dioxide, but they could definitely carry much higher frequency ranges with ease.

  • @alexriesenbeck
    @alexriesenbeck 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for another great video. I use tape on a regular basis for multirack recording. Its incredible how Tascam was able to fit 8 tracks of mono audio on to a single piece of 1/4" tape while keeping the audio quality high

  • @Soitisisit
    @Soitisisit 3 года назад +10

    Dammit Technology Connections, you're going to get me spending money on retro tech again. ;u;

  • @adamrkimber
    @adamrkimber 3 года назад +2

    The comparison section is beautifully edited. Its a work of art.

  • @billtalker3843
    @billtalker3843 5 лет назад +2

    I love the fact that you changed your audio for a few seconds! It really helped demonstrate the quality!

  • @rahulsundaresan218
    @rahulsundaresan218 7 лет назад +13

    Just found this channel recently. Keep up the good work!

  • @johnwatson3948
    @johnwatson3948 4 года назад +4

    This is great thanks - I’ve loved cassettes since I got my first recorder for xmas in 1969. A lasting format and have playground interviews done in 1970. Still use them for recording voice including micro-cassettes, sound quality is better than any digital recorder I’ve tried.

  • @prep74
    @prep74 4 года назад +3

    Tape technology improved greatly through the 70s and 80s. Most people don't realise that by the early to mid 80s, most cassette decks using metal tapes had higher fidelity than the most expensive turntables. The problem was that there were not many high quality pre recorded tapes and CDs had even better fidelity and were more convenient in use. It always seems odd to me that people who for whatever reason prefer "analog" media gravitated to the lower fidelity LP record rather than cassette tape or even HI FI VHS causing their ultimate demise. I suppose they don't have the large artwork which is the main attraction of vinyl records.

  • @brianbauer3148
    @brianbauer3148 Год назад

    I love the way each video has practical examples incorporated. I appreciate the extra editing time that takes, the ones used for humor are great too.

  • @CyhAnide
    @CyhAnide 4 года назад +1

    That tape comparison was amazing. I didn't even know that metal tape was a thing.
    And THANK YOU for adding the link to where to find that song. It was quite catchy!

  • @SuperAlfonsoBros
    @SuperAlfonsoBros 5 лет назад +4

    When I was a kid I couldn't even tell the difference in sound quality from my tapes from my cd's. I just figured it was a convenience thing not sound. Mind you most of the tapes I used weren't very old but still.

  • @junoguten
    @junoguten 4 года назад +21

    6:40 Press F to pay respects to all the poor secretaries tortured by cutthroat businessmen by that audio quality.

  • @Videoman2000
    @Videoman2000 7 лет назад +34

    BTW, music was still distributed on cassettes in India in 2000s, because lots of people couldn't afford CD player.

    • @tiberiu_nicolae
      @tiberiu_nicolae 6 лет назад +3

      Videoman2000 Cassetes are making a comeback in the US with small bands releasing their albums on them.

    • @charlescampuz5812
      @charlescampuz5812 5 лет назад +1

      Tiberiu Nicolae Eh, I don’t think they catched on.

    • @ohnoitschris
      @ohnoitschris 5 лет назад +2

      You could still get a lot of new releases in the USA on cassette until around 2003. Those releases today can be fairly valuable since so few people were buying tapes by then.

  • @markotrieste
    @markotrieste 4 года назад +2

    Great video! I remember the old times I actually enjoyed recording cassettes taking all the care to get high quality. Man what a throwback... :'(

  • @jak_sav_
    @jak_sav_ 3 года назад +2

    I can't believe how good the metal tape sounds in comparison to the others.
    Fantastic video!

  • @electricharmonyac7354
    @electricharmonyac7354 5 лет назад +12

    Nothing like hot synth lines on tape, thank you

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад +5

    Actually, the Type III mixed Ferric and Chromium, and was actually pretty good as it combined the good bass response of Ferric with the good frequency response of Chromium. And although they were failed experiments, some high end machine did support them.

  • @thatoneguy99100
    @thatoneguy99100 7 лет назад +9

    A friend of mine is really into cassettes... He also stores files on 3 1/2 floppy disks...

  • @TheHSIHP
    @TheHSIHP 4 года назад +3

    I just picked up a nice vintage Akai deck. I'm really enjoying getting back into cassettes!

  • @chuckaluck123
    @chuckaluck123 Год назад

    Just watched this a second time(many years seperated) I've dived deep down this rabbit hole since then and would love for you to revisit this topic. Thanks, as always!

  • @horacegrimsby2870
    @horacegrimsby2870 4 года назад +3

    That tape comparison was AMAZING

  • @heclanet
    @heclanet 4 года назад +3

    I remember Basf Metal perfectly, those were good times creating cassettes with music selections !

  • @PkmariO64
    @PkmariO64 5 лет назад +11

    Honestly though, ferric tapes still sound pretty good.

  • @JerryDLTN
    @JerryDLTN 2 года назад +2

    I remember in college many people would bring a tape recorder to class and either record the lecture from their desk or place the recorder on the professor's desk (and get it at the end of class). I occasionally would do this to help study by reading my notes and maybe in the car listen to the lecture again. I wished then how cool it would be if speech to text would have existed to play the recorded lecture to printed (and saved) notes.

  • @tyttuut
    @tyttuut 5 лет назад +2

    I dug up my dad's old Nakamichi CR-1A, bought some Joe Satriani cassettes, and sweet Christ, it sounds absolutely incredible. So much detail I couldn't hear on vinyl!

  • @tinkerbell4896
    @tinkerbell4896 3 года назад +3

    That was amazing to see how different the peak levels were between the 3 tapes. I still like to use a Tascam 4-track recorder, and although I can see that digital recording has all the advantages, I still love the way things come out on tape. One takes and little surprises all seem to add to a feel that gets sterilized in digital recording for me... At least when artists try to auto-tune everything off-key, and arrange the songs to final without having the skill to play it that way.

  • @aekaydubs
    @aekaydubs 4 года назад +3

    That was fun. I had no idea metal tapes could sound that great.

  • @cyclenut
    @cyclenut 5 лет назад +5

    In the the early 80's I got tired short life of cassettes - tape stretch. So, I would buy records for a master and copy to cassettes. I wish I had the knowledge of this video back then.

  • @Aidan_B_Young
    @Aidan_B_Young 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a JVC KD-A77 tape deck, which has the option to record on type III tapes. This feature was removed from all decks by 1983, so that helped me pinpoint its release to around 1979/80, though sources seem to vary. I have also seen one type III cassette out in the wild, but it was used and going for far more than I would personally pay for a tape.

  • @AS-jt9di
    @AS-jt9di 3 года назад +2

    Love the old school MCS brand tape deck. My first component system was an MCS from JC Penny. Amplifier, turntable, cassette deck, and speakers.

  • @thomasdavis4253
    @thomasdavis4253 5 лет назад +3

    As technology has changed, a lot of our tools and devices no longer have a "soul." Touch screens and menu-driven controls are infinitely useful, but it gives them an intagible quality. There is no satisfaction one gets when physically pressing buttons, turning knobs or adjusting sliders. Maybe it's because there is a stronger causal connection between action/reaction when you have to exhert energy to manipulate physical controls... Either way, I think the 70s through the 90s were the golden age of device controls.

    • @_me-ta-_3780
      @_me-ta-_3780 4 года назад

      You've put in words the feelings I had a hard time describing. Having a physical thing feels infinitely better, even if more cumbersome. The tactile feedback of the buttons and the mechanisms are more engaging. Heck even keyboards nowadays have far less tactile feedback (outside of the mechanical crowd)

  • @AgnostosGnostos
    @AgnostosGnostos 5 лет назад +12

    When audiocassettes appeared during early 60's their audio quality was very poor. During 80's they were mature. Chrome and metal audiocassettes were delivering great audio quality and with help of Dolby noise reduction the quality was even better.
    However audio cassettes were good as long cassette players were good and usually expensive.
    Most of people during 80's and even 90's were satisfied with affordable low quality cassette players.
    When CD recording devices became affordable at the end of 90's the audiocassette was doomed. A cheap CD player could deliver comparable audio quality of the most expensive audiocassette player or turntable.
    Analog sources of music were history.
    Nowadays there is a nostalgia. Vinyl and audiocassette are becoming a niche market.

    • @toneyisaiah408
      @toneyisaiah408 4 года назад +3

      Cassette tapes rule!

    • @OtakuUnitedStudio
      @OtakuUnitedStudio 3 года назад

      Vinyl is picking up in popularity again. Still a relatively small market but enough that some artists are doing full vinyl releases alongside CD and digital.

    • @AgnostosGnostos
      @AgnostosGnostos 3 года назад

      OtakuUnitedStudio Music Nowadays is considered free through internet. Before Napster music wasn't only data. You could touch the music with a Compact Disk or an audio Cassette or a Vinyl disk. This was beautiful. The photo of the disk, the quality of the disk cover and the artwork was very important, as the touching of the disk or even the smell of a new Vinyl disk.
      There is nostalgia of the past nowadays but Vinyl disk will never be mainstream.
      Fragile 78 rpm shellac disks were replaced by 32 rpm and 45 rpm Vinyl disk. Afterwards came the audiocassette which didn't challenge the Vinyl disk but offered affordable portable players. The Compact disk was the requiem of the music industry. Everything changes with audio. Now people don't even bother with MP3 files. Everything is on RUclips.
      During early 90's I was spending many salaries on CDs with the idea that CDs will have value in the future like Vinyl disks had. When first ftp servers with compressed real audio .ra or .wma, or .mp2 digital music files slowly appeared during 1995-1996 and people started to share music through ICQ or mIRC I understood that my investment in CD was futile. Then came the Napster in 1999 and game over for record companies but music wasn't dead. Musicians and singer didn't disappeared. The exploitation of record companies disappeared.

  • @zetecfiesta
    @zetecfiesta 8 лет назад +28

    Nice vid, Nakamachi or anyone else couldn't use the method Sony used to auto reverse the tape in the Walkman, as them decks have to record and would not be enough room for a second record head (Dragon can only record in 1 direction)

    • @TechnologyConnections
      @TechnologyConnections  8 лет назад +2

      Thanks for commenting! When I had mentioned the auto-reverse walkman, I meant to cut back to the segment showing the standard auto reverse deck and the miniature erase head located adjacent to the record/play head. Unfortunately I overlooked that in editing. If you go to 14:05, you'll see how the erase head and record/play head are in the same access hole of the tape. I imagine it would have been possible to fit two erase heads on either side of the record/play head given the setup in the machine shown. Perhaps at the time of Nakamichi's decision to make their over-the-top auto reverse system, is was not possible to make heads that small. Thanks for watching!

    • @TechnologyConnections
      @TechnologyConnections  8 лет назад +6

      ***** Thanks for the kind comments! I saw your comment on my channel, but as this is certainly my most visited video I'll repeat that I've not abandoned the channel, just had a lot changing in my personal life (read: moved, new job). But new videos are coming! Stay tuned!

    • @carloderosa7142
      @carloderosa7142 7 лет назад

      Technology Connections y

    • @robertatkinson6864
      @robertatkinson6864 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, it can be done, and it was. I have an old Toshiba AM/FM Cassette player/recorder with autoreverse. It has a 4-head play/record head as well as two separate erase heads on either side of it. I know Aiwa had some models that did it too.

    • @svenschwingel8632
      @svenschwingel8632 6 лет назад +1

      The Dragon did have a 4-Track head for playback.

  • @MathieuTechMoto
    @MathieuTechMoto 4 года назад +1

    So much high quality content into each of your videos , thank you

  • @hoseinqadam
    @hoseinqadam 4 года назад +2

    As much as I loved the cassette tape growing up, putting music on it was a hassle. It was easier for my dad to burn a CD and use one of those cassette tape to AUX cable adapter to play music in the van while we were on the road. And the quality well it was good for the time.