They're not misunderstanding; they're intentionally twisting things to push us away from perma-build servers, regardless of our preferences. It's their way of pretending to listen without actually caring. This tactic delays real discussions for another year as defenders on social media argue, "You got what you asked for, what more do you want?" Instead of addressing the devs, we'll be too busy fighting each other. It's a clever strategy-divide the community so they can focus on the real goal: selling seasonal loot boxes for profit. Well played, meta. Carry on. 🤣
Well, the game's not designed for perma-servers, at least not yet. Like, you go to a perma-server, you finish all the quests, all the settlements, everything there is - and then, what do you do? 20 bucks that the people clamoring for perma-servers now would be the first people to complain about the game being boring on those perma-servers. Perma-servers would just be a bigger Eternaland with, eventually, nothing much to do there. You want them to constantly throw new content on the perma-servers? Well, then you better be ready for the game stopping to be free to play cos if they wanna make more content, they need to hire more people and hiring more people costs money.
I know it may not be exactly what was asked for, but I like their idea. Suppose you are at the end of the season and you just wished to have a bit more time to farm for a specific mod, or finish a couple things in the high level zone? Their idea would allow you to delay the end of season long enough to tie up loose ends. May not be everything, but a good start.
i would still want the ability to to tell a growshroom to not touch a planter because i use loamy soil to plant decor gardens and would love to not have my shrooms touch those, but still harvest/plant my green house
rather than ability to tell growshroom to not touch a planter, would it better to have separate planter in decor category where you can just put whatever flowers (not seed) that you want. basically a planter to display flowers instead growing one. also it's better count as planter/flower for deviation just like toys does.
I want to be able to tell growshroom 1 you plant wheat and corns growshroom 2 I want more mushrooms And number 3 grow more pumpkins instead of them just popping around my growing area maybe they could make it so if I wall that area off with growshroom 1in there he won't go and plant things in number 3 plots
the best part of this game is the reset. I started playing a few games I stopped playing like conan exiles and quickly remembered why I stopped playing and then I thought about it and asked my girl (who also gave up on conan) that if other similar games had the reset I would go back to them. the reset keeps it fresh. If you make forever servers it will just kill the game just like fallout 76, conan, ark. so I dont want them to change that, the time guard of the first week needs to go, if you have the skill to get to end game areas in the first week then you should be allowed
I agree, I like the reset of games as well. I've probably restarted in this game at least 20 times over multiple alts. It's a lot of fun although having the lockouts does really kill it for me. The no-wipe servers aren't really for me, but the point I was making is the people they are for aren't going to be happy with this solution lol.
I do get credit for deviated crops when claiming from growshrooms. I usually start asking if people need to complete that season goal in the last phase and let others claim the produce as long as they drop the seeds back to me :)
The first question i think they were saying they want a PvE server that uses the whole map as it would open up more content. There's simply not enough to do for a 6 week scenario other than running silos and bosses over and over and over. Its boring after the first 2 days in each phase.
I mean, the arpg genre (games like Diablo) already had the "seasonal model" to perfection: You have your seasonal "server", that gets the updates and new content, and then you have your permanent "server", that has everything you have MINUS the new things from a season, wich will be added to it after the season ends. They do have the permanent thing with eternaland already, they just have to make it useful, since now Eternaland is just a bigger base with nothing to do. They should just add the actual map to eternaland, so when your character gets sent to eternaland after a season ends, you have the option to keep playing, making builds and etc there while you wait for a scenario you want, or just join a new one
This is a great idea. I'd rather it be a full map with things to do almost like the perm server.. Then instead of giving us new scenarios build upon the ones we have like other arpgs that have seasons.
with how Way Of Winter is supposedly separate part of same Macro Region, we could have the TP tower-esque transfer points between the "Sectors" for both Manibus and WotW, essentially having two connected sub-maps on same Server but not having "on foot traffic" between two nodes to preserve the illusion of Long Distance between the parts, and make it Permanently On, so things can be built like Jump Puzzles and people just simply ENJOY the lvl50 Gameplay feel ad infinitum
There's also the issue of claimed territory. At some point the server will be overpopulated and nobody can get resources such as oil. it's already such a sweaty race to get a polluted oil spot, but even an oil spot now is challenging with the servers having only 6 world shards. There would have to be some resource balancing before a permanent server option opens. Maybe either a permanent way of winter without chaosweavers or migrate the tower feature (for oil and pollution tower option) to manibus regions - maybe make it a territory-only construction object. they would want something for doing this to offset server costs - maybe require meta pass subscription?
I can think of several ways to make this one better, but I think an easy win for them would be to allow towers in all scenarios so we can take advantage of oil and pollution. You're right, if youre not super lucky and online when the server flips to phase 2 you can kiss having a good spot goodbye.
They just need to make the Scenario last more than a month, 3 months would be better for me since i have a life and play on my down time 3 to 4 hours a day. This is my opinion. there is a lot more things that need to be addressed but this is my main current concern.
As long as they unlock the phases quicker I would love a longer scenario where I can spend more time focused on end game stuff. By the time Pro modes unlock we are ready to leave so I can't accomplish anything.
We keep our blueprints and mods, which are the things that make us super strong high level players.. so that issue isn't going away with our without the perm servers. Nothing to do in the endgame however is a major issue that also needs to be addressed.. resetting the servers only provides like an extra 15 hours of content lol.
I do not get this super strong lvl players stuff.. it is not PVP.. you do you thing they do ther thing. It is an incentive for the new players to grow and play with the big guys. End even with a reset we keep the blueprints and mods... the only limit is the time gating wich is not fun. And also LVLing up over and over and over again is not fun.
idk about that. theres definitely a hard cap on how much power you can acquire. Other than mod farming (if you dont already have near perfect mods already) all of the power is quick to obtain.
When they say they are listening to the community, who are they listening to? The three people they are trying to please miss the point entirely, if they play the game themselves they should figure out what's missing, which are content, meaningful goals, and opening up content from phase 1. Who wants to get stuck in the same server with nothing to do all year? By end of week 3 I'm ready to jump because there's nothing new to do...
Let’s get something straight here. It’s not about new content every season. It’s about the $100 you need to spend every month to get cool looking cosmetics. When will everyone wake up and realize, it’s about making your bank account $0. If you don’t have money to purchase in the shop every month, they don’t care about you. They want people who spend money. Don’t let the free model fool you.
how is updating the fridge going to wreck their servers? if people need more space they make more fridges, which in turn would cause the same amount of stress on the server, if not more
But the game doesn't keep all the stuff you have in various inventories constantly loaded. Having a bigger inventory means it has to load in more at once, while closing one fridge and opening another allows them to throw away the previous inventory and not keep it in memory.
They have a stupidly inefficient system where each item has its own decay timer. When you add 1 fresh wheat into a stack of 98 wheat, you don't get a stack of 99 wheat that now share the same decay. Each of the individual wheat decay independently and you will notice they turn into spoil food one by one. This is so stupid. I get that its more realistic but they gotta be practical about optimizations.
a permanent server is a cool idea but i feel like they could make eternaland more important in the game like maybe we could have eternaland level and gear that doesnt disappear and have some eternaland maps to wander around on and do furniture farm and a map to build and see other ppls houses lol then we could have perma stuff and also go play the scenarios without feeling like we are losing anything
I think they are trying to make eternaland more important currently so we will see what they end up doing. Would be cool if they let us level and get gear, farm, etc.. and make it more like a perm scenario.
My feedback on the survey to them is they can consider something similar to how Monster Hunter Games does to prolong the scenarios by introducing DLC to the current scene while they can have more time to work on a new scenario so at least the lifespan of a scenario can be more than 3-6months instead of having the Devs to rush release new scenarios or we have to fall back to an old scenario to redo everything.
I think that would be a great idea, but I don't think their servers can handle it. Maybe if they can work out something with instances between the two so we can still travel but not feel like the servers going to die when there are major fights happening all over the map.
I believe the deviated plant thing was fixed because when I pick things up from my growshroom I still get the achievement. As for the servers If they made servers with all maps that wipe and restart every year or six months would be better in my opinion. If you looked at other survival games, Rust, Dayz, etc they are server based and you stay there but depending on the server it will wipe on a schedule and you get to replay the game. Having access to the entire map would be nice because rn I’mon W.O.W and have to run the giant for shrapnel mods instead of running the hound. When I would much rather run him, never thought I would miss the spider or rav hunter. Just getting to do all of it for longer would be nice, even if they made that a scenario option. If you like the short phases that change up go to one of these, If you want all of it for a longer time go here. No one is ever going to be 100% happy with a game and doing something for everyone is to much. But the majority of players want to be in it for longer than right around a month……just my opinion.
IDK doods, ive played every scenario since release. theres not much to chase down beyond weekly starcroms. I have more mods than i need ( i can build out any build i want well), 6 star everything. Theres nothing to do other than engage with the scenario mechanic. Unfortunately some of the scenario gimics are just hot dog water so I'm having trouble finding a reason to log in daily now.
I stopped playing after switching to next season, I thought I was so hampered to not use my knowledge from the previous season, since I have to wait until week 2 to do stuff. Im a casual player, I might have one day per week to play, so on that day, I want to do as much as I want but could not do when I had to jump on a new server. That made me stop playing.
I really hope they change that or give us the option. I don't have the numbers, but my gut tells me "most" people quit due to waiting for lockouts to become available be it opening the rest of the map, pro mode dungeons or nightmare prime wars. It gets boring not having meaningful content for so long.
What would help OH seriously is to streamline the game. Its is now written for the crowd who needs WAY too many options... it is layer upon layer of fluff. It needs to have more appeal to the casual gamers not just people who are are " influencers " or 40 + hours a week gamers.
I think the issue is less of the devs misunderstanding the request and more of players misunderstanding the game design. The game isn't designed to be an eternal map. It's designed to be exactly what it is right now and if you don't like it, then maybe this game isn't for you. The devs are trying hard to find some middle ground that doesn't lose the core identity of the game while satisfying player wants, but if player wants are at odds with core design, then one will have to give. I doubt there are really that many players that dislike the current system. I know a lot of people complained at first, but after giving it a try, they have come around to the identity the game has. The few remaining people that don't like it may just need to find a different game to play if they can't be happy with the compromise. On the other hand, if there really are that many players that don't like the scenario base system, then the game will suffer for the loss of those players and the devs would need to reconsider their goals with the game if they want to keep it alive.
I don't really mind seasonal wipes. I just want the season to last longer and there should just be more phases to give people stuff to do. I remember people were twiddling their thumbs for about 1 or 2 weeks til the late game area unlocked. Its not that we mind being locked out. Its just there isn't enough stuff to do.
"Having a timer reset on some food." Does your hotdogs in your fridge suddenly get a new expiration date because you put a new package in the fridge with it? You know that it only gets rid of the one that's the oldest, right? It doesn't get rid of the stack. They have it coded so if you put something in a fridge with a like item that has half the life, only that one will go bad when time expires, not both.
in my opinion the fastest way to add something that keep players engaged is to stop changing systems and add something that they can add FAST. Every Scenario should have an unique reward to work for like a special themed armor set or vehicle skin. Also fast would be to add some unique formulas and skins that drop from Monoliths, Silos on hard mode and pro. Crisis events sould be more and better showed with a message or something when they start so ppl can see them better and join. Also the rewards are dull and nobody comes to them. Better incentive is better rewards like skins and formulas again. Like this player have something to farm for in game. And they will farm for something more than just mods. 80% of player are not farming the perfect mods.. they just need something that work ant that is it. YES I know the game is free bla bla. But they kan keep the shop items.. lower a bit the prices so more player buy, take out loot crates and have the items in hop.. again more player will buy but also let players farm skins and formulas in game. Kinda like Fallout76 does.
I agree and I thought that was what we were getting with Prismverse.. the Rosetta and Mayfly outfits but at the end they gave us just regular Mitsuko crates which turned into Cosmetic tokens for 99% of everyone. What a complete waste. You should post this whole suggestion in the forums. I 100% support it.
@TroyGamingtv i did.. many times on Discord.. got over 60 likes.. an nothig happened.. also did the same in surveys.. still nothing. It is like they do not want something like this in game...
Looks like they like to answer questions that suits them the most. And even then they can't answer it properly 😂. Honestly, i expected zero response about game's vram memory leak and they did not dissapoint. Literally everything is more important than the game's performance.
I believe they have to add a server with smaller phases, If you are a player that knows the game or grind a lot you get to have a pause on the game like too soon
Yup, I recommended combining phases 1/2 and 3/4 if they want to keep us locked down.. but something has to be done. I log in for like 1 day per phase now, complete everything and then leave until the next phase.
No, this is part of their "Dev Talks" posts in their Discord. I hope we get an actual live stream before the 19th. Heres the link: discord.com/channels/864458335532744716/1312063808638029884/1312063808638029884
@@TroyGamingtv ah k cheers mate, yeah they will prob do a public dev stream when they do the updates or after they give people time to give more feedback
I think they are not addressing the real problem of the game...like the storage crate where it is ridiculous to put something manually when they can actually automated it like every other game.. its such ahuge waste of time..and very frustrating..also the cpu.and gpu.consumption is way too ridiculous..its sad that the players are finding ways to adjust just.to play this game.instead of them fixing this major problem...
The storage is a pain but it's not completely terrible. You can press H and it will auto place items into storage that are already there. You can also hit G? to auto sort the chests as well. I do recommend getting someone with 64 slots to come by and make chests for you though, really makes it all pretty easy. -- Totally agree on the CPU, its killing my PC.. sounds like a jet engine.
A permanent server wouldnt be so bad if they kept the phase rewards going that'll keep people on them but if those arnt there then you missing out massively on rewards
It cold happen with the new changes to starchrom. Capping at 66k each month and having all new ways to obtain it would mean everyone gets the same amount regardless of their choices. They may just have to hustle a little harder if they didn't have some of the normal phase bonuses.
They would need to change their model to adding on to existing scenarios so they could have new content incoming regularly. Theres not enough content for a no wipe right now.
@@TroyGamingtv yer that´s true but think about it how easy they could just get us to start farming formula by adding new house items all whant and can get by rng factors that´s would easy keep people more busy logging in farming houses only can´t belive they havent added more it´s like candy for kids, they have to dare to evolve and look at other games how they keep players. All have somting they can learn from cs go for example they add drop rates for boxes and items from them and player spread wow do you know what i get? and wow 100k players join in and start playing comps again. New world have their S thing and the key and cocunut thing every 7 day i dont play new world 2024 but i do log in for the cds in case. Same in this game i have the 4 builds i think ore know is gonna be meta ore on par with meta in pvp and pve and save close to 100k starcrome mods i have tons of them to gamble if neaded same with key armors and now when we can move around the stars you always gonna have top tier wep and key armor.
Thanks for always making this video updates. I know I can just read them on their Discord or in Reddit but well....reading is not as fun as listening to you talk about it with visual. I retain information better this way. Thank you!
hey troy have u tried jus planting the seeds and not watering the crops .....i think the deviations get satisfied by that and the growshroom cant even pick it cozz its not fully grown.....can u confirm my theory?
I haven't used the growshroom since like season 1 because of the issues and back then they would still clear the plot.. So not sure if your theory works. Maybe ill give it a try for science.
i am a player, and i thing the players are the ones missing the point... this game doesn't need to be the same as other games a permanent server is not a solution, faster leveling and bigger budget or repricing of resources for server transfer would be enough for repeat scenarios, it might not be the be all end all solution but is way better as a solution than just permanent server
You may be right.. could be that all these people that want long term servers end up quitting earlier because there isn't enough content.. but I think if they did it correctly where they add to it every 3 months.. like Manibus then adding on Way of Winter, then adding on a new story or something else, they could keep it fresh enough for them. I personally prefer the wipes :) I love racing from nothing to end game.
I think servers not ending is some what of a solution, this would let players play a season once then stay on a server. im guessing its bcuz i tend to play more solo (tho i do enjoy playing with other players and world chat etc.) if i was end phase of a season loaded up on sutff not seeing the need for other players and if there are people on the server more people may choose to just stay on the current servers till the next scenario releases. id be tempted to just stay on the first season of a scenario vs. playing it twice while waiting on the next sceanrio release. or you could just stay on the first season of a scenarios server and just continue to farm mods on any difficulty you wish while waiting for a new scenario. also you could still farm some starchrom via weekly territroy purifications.
I don't hate the idea, I just don't think it's what anyone asked for. I have some characters sitting on servers now.. would be cool to have all our friends roll alts on a server and then just sit them until everyone leaves and have a server all to ourselves :) This seems like it's going to be super costly though for them since when is it time to shut it down? Theres probably characters that quit and will never log on again.
@@TroyGamingtv it depends , if a server reaches a low count of active players im sure servers could be merged as legacy servers. Could Keep the extra cost down and the players w. less time to play/ wanting of playing for a longer time on 1 season happy and playing.
I just started playing the game last week and only just found out about server wipes today. This game is so good but now I'm thinking whats the point of reaching end game just to get wiped. 😢
It doesnt' seem like they understand what we want but I think its a step in the right direction. I think there is a place for permanent servers and normal scenario servers. I believe a lot of arguments against seem to make some assumptions about the games endgame and the motivations of players who want permanent servers. There obviously are other considerations besides just making a manibus scenario simply be never ending. I think a permanent server should have all of the content be a minimum of level 50. This is a end game server after all. You can't join a permanent server unless you are level 50. You would grind levels. The server would basically start in its final phase. Players could come and go as they please with the understanding that if they go to a normal scenario server they will be reset to level one and all of there stuff will go to eternaland. There are other considerations. I think what they should do though is give us Manibus Nightmare Mode. Where all of the content is a minimum of level 50. You start the content at level 50 with the entire skill tree, silos/monoliths and map opened opened. Then once we complete a monolith or silo on pro mode we can add an entrance to the silo/monolith to our eternaland. Along with being able to do purifications in our eternaland. I personally would not care about redoing scenarios if I could restart at 50 and all of the content would be 50. Personally, though I am playing through my last season. When I finish this last scenario I will ahve ocmpleted manibus 4 times, Prismverse 2 times and Way of Winter one time.
When I returned to the old southern map for the new season it’s way more accessible from drop in. Then it really hits home that all the main items eg weapon crates and mystical crates are in the exact same place. Piss poor! Need to rotate things and freshen up so it’s not instantly familiar. All my mates have already moved on from once human and it’s not fun solo anymore.
Same, its like me and a friend or two. I think they want us to rotate through all the scenarios to keep it fresh. I've done all 4 but 3 of them are the same like you mentioned lol. They do really need to start focusing on adding or changing this up with the initial ones.
I usually forgot what i saw in most places, so to me its always a new discovery. 😂 But my friend (whom ive met on once human) just remembers also everything. Every crate and its approximate location, resource spawn points, deviation location, etc. Its kind of nice to have someone know all that stuff but at the same time its sas for him bc HIS fun is limited.
fully agree,, the devs really do great job listens to the community, but this is too much.. permanent server will just wasting server for few people. eternal land enough, just need more content there. my problem for once human only the cosmetics price and need more reasons to clear a season, starchrom only not enough need something interesting like costumes/weapon skin, ornament and unique structure like the glass one
Yes! I know they make money off of cosmetics but we should totally get something special for completing content/scenarios as well. The butterfly and trophy are cool, but skins are cooler :) Plus, i've completed 4 seasons already so now I don't even get that lol.
Growshrooms and bees need to be assignable to plots. can't be that difficult. Along with other stuff. It would be soooo nice to not have bees n shrooms going to acid plots or plants u don't want them at. U cant have plots as decorations in ur house unless u go no growshrooms or you go no fertiliser and only 1 plant at a time so u don't have to do it allllll yourself. So simple yet it's not done. I love getting the gold fertilizer so really I want muh bees n shrooms to prioritize these. If you bother to grow contaminated crops then have fun keeping the bees n shrooms away from them. Or u want herbs n plants not deviated but keep getting deviated ones because herbs take 12 hours so once ur other crops are done the bees will move onto the herbs. I usually have 6-8 bees and 1 shroom running. So many times I've spent just trying to catch each bee and get it close to where I need it and away from where I don't want it at all. The worst part is that many of the plants look really nice when fully grown, but you can't have them as decorations or to keep deviations happy when you have a shroom about. Then you also get bees buzzing about your house. 8 bees all buzzing because they are sad in the house gets tiresome quick. Not as bad as tin men at least.
I agree on most of what you say, in most of your vids, (which i appreciate!) but the grow shrooms are my most important deviants I own, and the fact that you don't get credit for something they pick or the lack of looting a grumpy bulb through them and etc. does make sense esp for all they do. And The idea of a perm server is nicer than i believe it would be in practice. If the phases were a few days reduced, i wouldn't mind resetting near as much. Idk... I'd rather them invest into a WoW season goal besides kill a cw.... And not kill cws never ending.
Thanks! I agree they need to reduce the phase timing or remove them/combine them to speed things up. Especially in the WOW where they are super long. I'd personally like them to combine WOW with Manibus if they can keep the servers stable and then just invest in making the current scenarios more feature rich with a bigger end game. I think they are rushing to push out new scenarios to fast and it's showing with each of them.
Honestly they need more western devs included so they can better translate what the audience of the west wants, It seems like almost everything we ask for gets lost somehow and they come out with stuff we didnt ask for then get pissy when we say uh that's not what we like or want just like the loot crates and cosmetics looking very fortnite and metro
what about glass building? isnt they answer they gonna add a way to obtain it without buyingin event? i hope its not like only a certain number ppl can obtain it i hope its globally event milestone..
I don't think they will ever give out Glass building without paying for the pack but they did say they will add more pieces to the pack for free for those that have already purchased it. I do hope that in the future they give us much cooler stuff to build with though because the Free to play options are very lacking.
awww... because last time i heard they admit that ppl want it and they respond with thereis another glass piece (different from the one we can buy) that will be added to event so f2p player can earn it
QoL item an auto run key bind (player and vehicle). Overall the game needs fresh content to keep people interesting, there is only so many times you can play Manibus before you are bored out of your mind. Way of Winter felt unfinished and not polished, there was little to do by the time Phase 3 started.
They have auto run, i bound mine to ~. Agree, it's all starting to get boring and we've played the same content way to many times.. need some fresh stuff! I've done Evolutions Call, Manibus (Hard), Prismverse, Way of Winter and now back to Manibus.. can't even get bigger butterfly anymore since i'm on season 5. That's just with my main too. I've done alts on Manibus at least another 5 times. lol
a year long server would be great, no need to re level you character from scratch sounds good. But if they're gonna do a year long server we need a good end game content, as far as I'm aware the true end game currently is deviant hunting with the shadow drop cooldown. I really doubt the devs will add a decent end game since there's just so much in their hands right now. They're biting more than they can chew at the moment.
question workstation blueprint what is the point of that i got 45 tokens click the rare blueprint and i always get the same ones i have so i repeat the process just to get more repetead things after all is said and done i have 5 tokens and got 0 new blueprints from my 45 tokens and this happens everytime just give us what we dont have not the samethings over and over again
It's all RNG but I think it's the only place you can get the toilet and some of the rare American furniture. I watched a video that said do the cheap version to get more rolls and a better chance at the good stuff. So i've been doing that recently.
I suspect that the vast majority that want a permanent server aren't going to be happy when they get it. The game doesn't have nearly enough content to actually support it, it's going to devolve down to a base fiddling & chat room. And I'm sure there will be some super casual players that will be happy with that. But a lot are just going to quit the game due to boredom. Player drop off on seasons is huge which tells you seasons are TOO LONG NOT TOO SHORT. There just isn't enough to do in the game right now.
People say its great idea for dedicated server with all maps and yet they don't even stay on seasons server to phase 5. The game would be dead in 6 months if they did that. Only reason people play now is because with server wipe ,they have something to do in a new season.
I'm personally a fan of the server wipes and agree that without them people would be bored, probably sooner than 6 months. They really need to focus on adding end game to the current scenarios if they want it to be a long term spot for people.
Not putting things in loot crates is just going to make them up the prices on the actual items. You think 50 dollars was bad for the glass pack? They're gonna have 100 dollar holiday packs now. At least with the loot crates, you had a chance of getting them on your first roll.
I hope its on par with the cost of other small packs. Ill be mad if they make it $50 like the big ones. I'm also hoping they give us some free ones with the xmas events.
If they keep going the way the latest update has been it won't be so bad. They added bundles where you could purchase it together or each item individually and made the loot crate 3 rounds instead of 6 which drops the price in half. This was their new promise, lets see if they keep it.
yeah what people want was a server that's like an MMORPG base map then just add expansion expansion expansion, if they are worried about people complaining no content for months remind them that they asked for it and other games takes yrs to get a new expansion
I play in japan server and i bought many bundle but.. i want to change my server region to SEA is that possible to bring my japan server char to Sea without creating new char?
have to add agree with you again i havent used grom for planting to atm like you say he do more harm then good i put him in the other day and feed my animals a full stocked base with planter boses and all was gonne i never replant it i have al lthe food in the stofs so they dont drop in age and portal fridge i would not play if i did not have portal fridge and backpack all other is ok but this 2 are like a most have and preserved food ore canned should be longer then 24/h if no buffs thats another thing i don´t like they made so much so we can be afk farming in bases but miss things like this.
Can we just talk about how much it cost to make the portable fridge! I got it as a memetic for the first time last season and was like wtf, this thing better last the whole season and of course it doesnt lol. Super useful though, but ill wait to buy it from a vendor moving forward.
So we can keep soloing Silo's forever? Yep, they totally missed the point. They are married to the scenario system and can not comprehend that many players do not want that. Steam has a big sale for the holidays so I'm going to try out some different games. I'm burned out starting over on Once Human.
I agree. I think this is going to end up being a huge draw on their hardware. Are they supposed to keep instances up indefinitely? Or are they going to wait til no one logs in for 7 days before closing it.
Really interesting as always the fish stacking they needed to remove the catch size thing to make that work ther is no point for the fish size stacking is more what ppl want the fridge the same thing maybe if they made more food not spoiled will be nice specially deviated food you craft with deviated stuff I think ppl don't craft to much of this to store on fridge so not good point but I think the ingredients are the big thing to use fridge meat crops I know it's suppose to be survival but they need to make it less grindy like most of time it feel hard to get stuff so you collect then you end up not using it like you saving but yeah this how it feel to me 😅nice video as always❤
Thanks! Yeah, I agree with all those points. I know a lot of people will make a bench, craft a bunch of food and then leave it on the bench since the timer doesnt start until its pulled off.. Just another way to game the system.
I wanted them to add WOW to Manibus/Evos Call but after thinking about it the servers wouldn't be able to handle it. They would need to do something with instances. Right now by the 2nd week of WOW the whole server feels like its about to die. So if we can't add to the map then i'd like just more end game stuff or the world to level with us. Thats alone would add a ton of end game if we could go farm the other 4 areas.
@@TroyGamingtv You want the world to "level with us" - so basically, with those folks who got no life and rush it to max lvl within the first week. So what does the rest of us do who actually do have a life outside of gaming and are taking it a lot more slowly and then, have to deal with a world at, say, lvl 20 that's leveled up to accommodate lvl 50 folks? Sounds like something that would make me quit the game faster than you can say Mayfly.
@ no, like other games with this mechanic it would be specific to the player. So if I were 50 I’d see 50 mobs but if you’re 20 those same mobs would be 20 for you.
it's missing the point because theyre presenting a possible solution that they can currently do. this is why they asked for feedback after their post. don't go straight to reeming them, jfc.
Fair enough, but I still don't think this is going to satisfy the playerbase that want the perm servers. They told us we would get 1 year no wipe servers back in 1.1 and then never brought the topic back up again. Just want to make sure they understand what the community truly wants. A lot of stuff can get lost in translation. I love the game, so will always give them the benefit of the doubt.
I also don't know why everyone is trying to rewrite the game... Everyone that went into this knew that this was going to be a time based server like Rust. To go into a game knowing exactly what it is and then complain because it's that thing is just asinine. There are plenty of building survival games that offer perma-servers. Go play those. Most of us enjoy the time slotted servers. It creates a challenge to become the absolute best in the small amount of time.
This notice about their idea of what a permanent server would be is total bullshit. Basically, it's just an alternative to Eterna-Pointless-Land. You will STILL need to leave that server to get any new content. AND they totally disregarded our request for an ENTIRE map server. This crap should show us all that the devs aren't actually listening and/or have zero interest in delivering to us what we VERY SPECIFICALLY asked for. I'm in my second go around with my character and I can tell you (and the devs) that I've already had it with this game.
it would be cool if the servers stayed up and instead of having a separate map the current one just got bigger and the level cap increased because the new areas were higher level. This would give us something to build for, because currently we get to the endgame, then there's nothing other than the wait to start again which to be honest is kinda pushing me to play something else out of boredom, eventually I'm just going to get distracted by another game and not come back and I don't want that be3cause I really like this game.
can we please have the hide stacking on armor resolved. Please and thank you. It's throwing all PvP off for the entire game. Please it's messing eveerything up
I think your suggestion on growshrooms is very bad. I just started using atleast 2 growshrooms and put the seeds I need them to plant in at the same time. This way they plant the seeds 50/50, 33/33/33 etc as long as u put the same amount of seeds in each of them. Works perfectly for me this way and the addition of fertilizer will make the growshrooms imo one of the best deviations in the game, I use them all the time already anyway. Them reusing the seeds they used before after harvesting/drawing from storage will just keep the crops occupied and you have to reset growshroom settings frequently. This would make the process more tedious overall.
I didn't know you could do different seeds on multiple and they would split it evenly. Either way, I plant like 10+ different items so I don't think there would be anyway for me to utilize the grow shrooms in their current state.
I know they are working on something with Vendors but not sure if it's coming soon or if it was what they already released. Hopefully theres more to it.
Theres not enough endgame content to make a permanent server. I can bet these players will get bored eventually. The game is not designed yet to be played on permanent server imo. They can slow down the progress like experience gain and loot but thats not efficient and healthy imo. Anyway, people are always welcome to try i guess, especially those who hate seasonal resets, but then again, the next complaint will be no enough content, coz again its not designed that way, especially pve and no pvp. Pvp is one good way to endgame content imo. Id rather have fishes to stack yes. I posted the growshroom suggestion lol. I know everyone wants it anyway, i just took the initiative. Yes cant make decorative garden because of growshrooms.
I already feel the pain the last 2-3 days of each stage ... let alone a permanent server, would have no idea what to do there. But hardcore grinders don´t mind.
I think what you said is spot on and why they won't put in the permanent servers. The main thing right now they need to focus on imo is adding to what they have and not making another new scenario.. Lets mash it all together :)
Exactly what i was thinking. All these people want a permanent server without realizing that it could kill the game within a year. The game is designed for resets. If they implement a permanent server, this game will be like ghost recon. Yes the map is huge, more stuff to do, but people can finish the game within a year. They should stick to the resets and fix all the stuff that needs fixing, create more content, and make the game balanced.
@@TroyGamingtv i would be thrilled to have manibus and wow together as one big map AND scenario, and lets get back to Mary (was her name right? the spy villain) what happens after that. We saw her in a flashback or something in the helicopter cutscene like i thought that was so cool, kinda like a successful T-virus human from resident evil. And looking at the stronghold the butterfly lady asked us to raid, it had human size capsules, like they were experimenting on humans, like there has to be more of her, like an organization Mary belongs to. Theres so much more we can try to do. Increase the level cap, not necessarily add more specializations, it can stop at lvl 50. Problem for me in WoW, is that there are no story quests for the Great Ones and the treant is a reskin idk how that will work, like what? another person turned treant? Servitor mechanic was interesting to me id wish i could find out via story quest, just like the old Great Ones. Rosetta taking advantage of the staroid thingy to make bioweapons and turn humans into weapons etc. theres a lot more that we can discover imo. But devs are already asking for scenario suggestions which is kind of a bummer. Anyway i talked too much. Maybe finish the story and the whole map then create a perma server. Point is, more content.
@@AurioDK same, like for me, if my only concern is PVE, im not into speed runs, whats the point? theres no difference in rewards anyway, theres no incentive. SO what usually happens is as long as its enough, its good enough for me. im done whats next? nothing? lol thats when it gets boring. PVP can make people do different builds try different tactics. It helps prolong end game content a little more. But sadly lag is still an issue.
We don't want a server based game that ends after 6 weeks. That's the most hopeless thing I have ever heard of in gaming. Just create a game like any other game that just works. Add new content without closing the server. Make seasons like every other normal game. A season lasts at least 3 months. Not all of us gamers are RUclipsrs streamers or people just sit at home and game all day. We gat jobs and families. 6 weeks content is total bs. If they r making a game just for streamers they better say so. I repeat 6 weeks is just BS. Is this an actual game or a beta.??? 6 weeks..... What the actual f...... Just open the entire map. Make it last at least 3 months a season. This scenario BS won't work. Yo game is doomed to die I promise u. We are forced to abandon our normal life just to play yo game before six weeks end. And staying longer in a server without people is pointless because you forced them to grind so fast so that they can go to another server to repeat the same content all over again. Why make a simple thing complicated. Just remove that 6 weeks BS. Make it at least 3 months
Is it me or does it seem like alot of these people complaining because they are lazy and want everything done for them??? Oh wait they might be the same people I hear complaining on Fallout 76 also... Do the work,play the game, stop being lazy equals having fun! What's wrong with people these days man!
I hope they follow the advice i gave them, i said remove the resets and let us use Manibus as our main base server with the new starcrom system and even way of winter towers, then make new scenario phases where we can infil set up a small temporary base that has access to everything we have unlocked on our main base and extract the resources and things we get on new scenario phases back to our main base.. This way we can infil to smaller map phases set up a smaller base, do the missions and tasks with the freedom of moving between our main base on manibus to the different phase maps, etc Onyx Tundra as a scenario phase map, Vena Fjord as a different map, same as Ember strand as another map, infil build a small temporary base do the task missions etc then exfil back to main base.. They should of just made Manibus novice our main permanent home base server instead of erternaland, at least we would be able to do things on manibus novice that benefit the game.. Hopefully they eventually give us a main base server and then the freedom to be able to move between different phase servers instead of permanently being stuck there and having to reset every phase, i do not have to many more resets left in me, all i build is the minimum necessity things on my base now because all i am going to do is delete it when i finish the scenario, i'm not looking forward to having to waste hours deleting all the crap i have accumulated in my spacetime backpack from resets that i am not going to use because of the resets..
I like this and it sounds a little like Nightingale from what i've read.. I have the game but haven't played it yet.. but I think its the same concept. Theres like a home base and then you go through portals into different scenarios to explore and do stuff.
@@TroyGamingtv I've never heard of nightingale, I'm a ex Call of Duty DMZ player.. We had a main large map to play on then we had 3 other smaller maps we could go to and play on.. i was thinking something similar to what we had on DMZ but as open world maps.. We already TP on once human maps now, being able to TP to different scenario phases on smaller maps while having a main base on a large map just makes sense..
@@TroyGamingtv Another way to look at is how we have our map then how we can teleport to different worlds, having something similar to teleport to different phase scenario's on smaller maps and give our campsites full access to stoves, supply and gear benches, storage crates etc what we have unlocked on our main base.. then we can move between our permanent base on a main big map to different phase scenarios as they release them also going back to old previous map scenarios.. Another way to look at it is how we load into Eternaland we load into different phase scenario's with maps the same size as each region map we have now..
@@TroyGamingtv With the server resets and devs saying they are trying to keep people on a similar path to leveling up was never going to work.. All it does is screw up progression for us casual players who spend the first week to 3 weeks of each reset trying to get back to where we were previously before the reset while others level up in a day or two every reset.. They need to let us have a main base map where we retain our progression and add new phase scenario's to it, then every 12 months they can do a full reset and new main big map if they want.. This will prob be my last reset and if they change it i will come back if they don''t i am not starting over again just to continuously play catch up every few weeks with scenario resets.. The resets make the game to grindy and repetitive especially for most part they are just recycling the same content with some smaller changes to it, i'm going back to playing extraction shooter games where i retain my progression instead of it being reset every few weeks.. They should of named the game groundhog day instead of once human lol..
'we want a server that doesn't wipe and we don't want to play on a dead server' ... do you not get how that doesn't make any sense for people who actually want to play the game every day? People want to jump in for 3 hours on phase 4 of a server and insta-unlock everything and get all the currency for free, when there's actual dedicated players literally carrying the server through every goal. This game is doomed trying to cater to new players.
I think those are a different group of players. Theres people that want no wipe for building, focusing on end game, maybe they don't have a lot of time to play.. and theres also people that want to hop in late and take the resources with little effort. I think the second part is being addressed with the new starchrom system. I personally like the wipe schedules but I think having 1 or 2 perm severs would be good for a subset of players as well.
Totally missed the point. Have a permanent server, make new content for it, or all us to bounce out to events in other servers then head back. I understand they had a vision, but if they stick to it and don’t bend the game will die.
Every time I make the bad decision of placing in a Tin Man at my base he lasts about 10minutes before he is fired and back into the backpack. And for some reason they keep giving us worthless Tin Men of all various types n colours. Why not bees or Whims or something as well. Tin men are completely useless if you have walls, steps, slopes, turtles, mice, etc, etc, etc. Just constantly shooting over something or into a wall. Get outta here. You're fired. Deported back to the BP.
These devs miss the mark on every point. Apart from that, what about content?! This game is so shallow in that department and it makes me look forward to PoE2 even more.
yeah, they need to add a bunch more. Its very beta and they are focused on Mobile at the moment so I don't see much changing anytime soon.. I'll be on POE 2 and doubt "not enough content' will ever leave my lips even in beta lol. I already started making content for the game today. Ill be adding much more as the it goes on. Path is one of my all time favorites.
I'd love if that were true but with the server lag and the disappointment of Prismverse they need to deal with some stuff or they will lose those players too. However, if I had to guess i'd say its like 90%/10% pve players vs pvp.
The lag in pvp is super minimal atm but the mining bug or if they did it on purpose with clash is bad. No pvp at events during the day prisms gone in 8 minutes. My server mayfly leads by 4k middle of phase 2. Its not fight for prisms its who can cut more trees lol@TroyGamingtv
@@ErikJohnson-m4e lol, yeah thats what it's turned into. They talked about a new squad based scenario recently so I'd like to see how that one shapes up. Probably early 2025.. and hopefully it doesn't turn into who can pve better.
Nah frfr It’s the only reason I’m still playing. They need to stop the BS and give us more than 50 lvls. Just slow down 50 to 100 almost like prestige…Boom, problem fixed!
lightforge crates suck but the 10 spins at half off aren't too bad and then dupe points you get are a nice touch to pick up cheap things from future packs. As long as they keep putting out good stuff individually, which they started doing with the last update, it will be okay in my book. They need to pay the bills somehow.
Y what y say is reasonable but, we need to get to that point gradually, or Game will still feel empty. we cant have copy paste silos like way of winter had. Also all content so far cant be just mashed together. Endless scenarios needs to me build over few years, or players just leave.
Also we need hidden features in silos like do something it will launch hidden boss with hidden loot or mods not available other way. Or fast runner rewards first to clear fastest to clear. Title reward stats and didn't our character supposed to be something with some king of powers also where is the magic.
I agree with all of that. Game still feels very beta and I think it needs time to grow. Just hope they build upon what we have and slow down on adding new, unfinished scenarios. It's free to play so they get new players as fast as old ones leave so the impact of their decisions probably isn't showing in the steam numbers.
@@TroyGamingtv Y are right many game has get downed by the bugs never fixed. I loved Conan exiles my friend did not lags studders and bug's. And for some ppl first impression is all just uninstall and never try again.
food doesnt need to expire its so easy to create.. its just a 20 minute waste of time to create.. just to build server time .. none of the combat deviations are doing damage or even working currently.. butterfly does nothing any more.. jus sits on ground
I disagree with these whiners. The original idea behind the Once Human concept is "Scenario" base. and once the scenario ended you wont be getting anymore frags and any more starcroms. Once Human is a totally non pay to win game and it is MEANT as a grinding game. Grinding meant that you can bring your friend to tag along with you and grind strongholds for mats, mods, etc.The event runs in a period of 5 phases and once it ended, no more reward can be obtain so why would you want to stay extended period of time? Might work for PVE server, but Minibus? Way of Winter? After permanent server approved then what? extend level cap to 100? Content like Lifeafter? Add ridiculous powerups like Undawn? if so then what's the difference between OH and LA or Undawn? Might as well go back and play Undawn and whine forever.
If you don't log in for 7 days your items go into your backpack and your home gets saved and needs to be replaced. So it would clear itself out as people come and go.
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Yeah, they are missing the point entirely. A lot of people just want a server that is always up and not have to relevel from scratch every few months.
Exactly! lol. Leaving the servers on after its over isn't a solution.
Amen to this one trillion billion and fifty times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Wrong, What are you gonna do when you've completed all the content? There's already not enough to do for 6 weeks.
They're not misunderstanding; they're intentionally twisting things to push us away from perma-build servers, regardless of our preferences. It's their way of pretending to listen without actually caring. This tactic delays real discussions for another year as defenders on social media argue, "You got what you asked for, what more do you want?"
Instead of addressing the devs, we'll be too busy fighting each other. It's a clever strategy-divide the community so they can focus on the real goal: selling seasonal loot boxes for profit. Well played, meta. Carry on. 🤣
Well, the game's not designed for perma-servers, at least not yet. Like, you go to a perma-server, you finish all the quests, all the settlements, everything there is - and then, what do you do? 20 bucks that the people clamoring for perma-servers now would be the first people to complain about the game being boring on those perma-servers. Perma-servers would just be a bigger Eternaland with, eventually, nothing much to do there. You want them to constantly throw new content on the perma-servers? Well, then you better be ready for the game stopping to be free to play cos if they wanna make more content, they need to hire more people and hiring more people costs money.
I know it may not be exactly what was asked for, but I like their idea. Suppose you are at the end of the season and you just wished to have a bit more time to farm for a specific mod, or finish a couple things in the high level zone? Their idea would allow you to delay the end of season long enough to tie up loose ends. May not be everything, but a good start.
Telling which planter boxes the growshrooms should not touch would get me to use them again, great idea.
i would still want the ability to to tell a growshroom to not touch a planter because i use loamy soil to plant decor gardens and would love to not have my shrooms touch those, but still harvest/plant my green house
Yeah, I hope they add that option with the changes this month.
rather than ability to tell growshroom to not touch a planter, would it better to have separate planter in decor category where you can just put whatever flowers (not seed) that you want. basically a planter to display flowers instead growing one. also it's better count as planter/flower for deviation just like toys does.
I want to be able to tell growshroom 1 you plant wheat and corns growshroom 2 I want more mushrooms
And number 3 grow more pumpkins instead of them just popping around my growing area maybe they could make it so if I wall that area off with growshroom 1in there he won't go and plant things in number 3 plots
the best part of this game is the reset.
I started playing a few games I stopped playing like conan exiles and quickly remembered why I stopped playing and then I thought about it and asked my girl (who also gave up on conan) that if other similar games had the reset I would go back to them. the reset keeps it fresh.
If you make forever servers it will just kill the game just like fallout 76, conan, ark.
so I dont want them to change that, the time guard of the first week needs to go, if you have the skill to get to end game areas in the first week then you should be allowed
I agree, I like the reset of games as well. I've probably restarted in this game at least 20 times over multiple alts. It's a lot of fun although having the lockouts does really kill it for me. The no-wipe servers aren't really for me, but the point I was making is the people they are for aren't going to be happy with this solution lol.
I do get credit for deviated crops when claiming from growshrooms. I usually start asking if people need to complete that season goal in the last phase and let others claim the produce as long as they drop the seeds back to me :)
Same, I get credit when the shroom harvests them (since I never harvest myself).
Oh wow, well I haven't used them since the beginning of the game so maybe that part got fixed. Great to know. Thanks!
The first question i think they were saying they want a PvE server that uses the whole map as it would open up more content. There's simply not enough to do for a 6 week scenario other than running silos and bosses over and over and over. Its boring after the first 2 days in each phase.
yeah 100% and it just went over their heads lol. Totally not getting what anyone asked for.
I mean, the arpg genre (games like Diablo) already had the "seasonal model" to perfection:
You have your seasonal "server", that gets the updates and new content, and then you have your permanent "server", that has everything you have MINUS the new things from a season, wich will be added to it after the season ends.
They do have the permanent thing with eternaland already, they just have to make it useful, since now Eternaland is just a bigger base with nothing to do.
They should just add the actual map to eternaland, so when your character gets sent to eternaland after a season ends, you have the option to keep playing, making builds and etc there while you wait for a scenario you want, or just join a new one
This is a great idea. I'd rather it be a full map with things to do almost like the perm server.. Then instead of giving us new scenarios build upon the ones we have like other arpgs that have seasons.
with how Way Of Winter is supposedly separate part of same Macro Region, we could have the TP tower-esque transfer points between the "Sectors" for both Manibus and WotW, essentially having two connected sub-maps on same Server but not having "on foot traffic" between two nodes to preserve the illusion of Long Distance between the parts, and make it Permanently On, so things can be built like Jump Puzzles and people just simply ENJOY the lvl50 Gameplay feel ad infinitum
There's also the issue of claimed territory. At some point the server will be overpopulated and nobody can get resources such as oil. it's already such a sweaty race to get a polluted oil spot, but even an oil spot now is challenging with the servers having only 6 world shards. There would have to be some resource balancing before a permanent server option opens. Maybe either a permanent way of winter without chaosweavers or migrate the tower feature (for oil and pollution tower option) to manibus regions - maybe make it a territory-only construction object. they would want something for doing this to offset server costs - maybe require meta pass subscription?
I can think of several ways to make this one better, but I think an easy win for them would be to allow towers in all scenarios so we can take advantage of oil and pollution. You're right, if youre not super lucky and online when the server flips to phase 2 you can kiss having a good spot goodbye.
They just need to make the Scenario last more than a month, 3 months would be better for me since i have a life and play on my down time 3 to 4 hours a day. This is my opinion. there is a lot more things that need to be addressed but this is my main current concern.
As long as they unlock the phases quicker I would love a longer scenario where I can spend more time focused on end game stuff. By the time Pro modes unlock we are ready to leave so I can't accomplish anything.
Yep I agree with you, if they do end up deciding on making an year long server I would love that
They talked about it but I haven't heard anything since.. then we get this lol
Permanent server will have issue as all other mmorpg, super strong high lvl players, nothing to do on endgame
We keep our blueprints and mods, which are the things that make us super strong high level players.. so that issue isn't going away with our without the perm servers. Nothing to do in the endgame however is a major issue that also needs to be addressed.. resetting the servers only provides like an extra 15 hours of content lol.
people are only going to run resets so many times
I do not get this super strong lvl players stuff.. it is not PVP.. you do you thing they do ther thing. It is an incentive for the new players to grow and play with the big guys. End even with a reset we keep the blueprints and mods... the only limit is the time gating wich is not fun. And also LVLing up over and over and over again is not fun.
idk about that. theres definitely a hard cap on how much power you can acquire. Other than mod farming (if you dont already have near perfect mods already) all of the power is quick to obtain.
permanent server -> permanent residents -> alot of buildings -> super lag issues
I really want to be able to go onto a new season with all my gear and everything and not worry about to losing anything
When they say they are listening to the community, who are they listening to? The three people they are trying to please miss the point entirely, if they play the game themselves they should figure out what's missing, which are content, meaningful goals, and opening up content from phase 1. Who wants to get stuck in the same server with nothing to do all year? By end of week 3 I'm ready to jump because there's nothing new to do...
Let’s get something straight here. It’s not about new content every season. It’s about the $100 you need to spend every month to get cool looking cosmetics. When will everyone wake up and realize, it’s about making your bank account $0. If you don’t have money to purchase in the shop every month, they don’t care about you. They want people who spend money. Don’t let the free model fool you.
how is updating the fridge going to wreck their servers? if people need more space they make more fridges, which in turn would cause the same amount of stress on the server, if not more
But the game doesn't keep all the stuff you have in various inventories constantly loaded. Having a bigger inventory means it has to load in more at once, while closing one fridge and opening another allows them to throw away the previous inventory and not keep it in memory.
They have a stupidly inefficient system where each item has its own decay timer. When you add 1 fresh wheat into a stack of 98 wheat, you don't get a stack of 99 wheat that now share the same decay. Each of the individual wheat decay independently and you will notice they turn into spoil food one by one. This is so stupid. I get that its more realistic but they gotta be practical about optimizations.
If you take deviated crops from growshroom it will give you credit, and I've tested this many times.
Thanks! I haven't done it in forever so it's probably been addressed.
a permanent server is a cool idea but i feel like they could make eternaland more important in the game like maybe we could have eternaland level and gear that doesnt disappear and have some eternaland maps to wander around on and do furniture farm and a map to build and see other ppls houses lol then we could have perma stuff and also go play the scenarios without feeling like we are losing anything
I think they are trying to make eternaland more important currently so we will see what they end up doing. Would be cool if they let us level and get gear, farm, etc.. and make it more like a perm scenario.
yeah eternaland is a bust and pointless. latest transfer bug a perfect example
My feedback on the survey to them is they can consider something similar to how Monster Hunter Games does to prolong the scenarios by introducing DLC to the current scene while they can have more time to work on a new scenario so at least the lifespan of a scenario can be more than 3-6months instead of having the Devs to rush release new scenarios or we have to fall back to an old scenario to redo everything.
2 things be nice link both wow and manibus maps togather into 1 big scenario with longer phases and reduce the acid from brewing barrel times
I think that would be a great idea, but I don't think their servers can handle it. Maybe if they can work out something with instances between the two so we can still travel but not feel like the servers going to die when there are major fights happening all over the map.
I believe the deviated plant thing was fixed because when I pick things up from my growshroom I still get the achievement. As for the servers If they made servers with all maps that wipe and restart every year or six months would be better in my opinion. If you looked at other survival games, Rust, Dayz, etc they are server based and you stay there but depending on the server it will wipe on a schedule and you get to replay the game. Having access to the entire map would be nice because rn I’mon W.O.W and have to run the giant for shrapnel mods instead of running the hound. When I would much rather run him, never thought I would miss the spider or rav hunter. Just getting to do all of it for longer would be nice, even if they made that a scenario option. If you like the short phases that change up go to one of these, If you want all of it for a longer time go here. No one is ever going to be 100% happy with a game and doing something for everyone is to much. But the majority of players want to be in it for longer than right around a month……just my opinion.
Hope we get a permanent server!
Me too, with content updates. I'll for sure keep a character on there and spend more time focusing on end-game and building.
@ ….and have more fun with friends!! 🥰
I would love to see your Growshroom one. But the most needed feature is Changing Gender. It's a must....
They had promised that in a previous dev chat that it was in the works and would be completed before 2025 so I'd imagine we will have it soon.
IDK doods, ive played every scenario since release. theres not much to chase down beyond weekly starcroms. I have more mods than i need ( i can build out any build i want well), 6 star everything. Theres nothing to do other than engage with the scenario mechanic. Unfortunately some of the scenario gimics are just hot dog water so I'm having trouble finding a reason to log in daily now.
That's crazy. I should have focused more on my main :) I have a lot of builds and mods but nothing great.
I stopped playing after switching to next season, I thought I was so hampered to not use my knowledge from the previous season, since I have to wait until week 2 to do stuff. Im a casual player, I might have one day per week to play, so on that day, I want to do as much as I want but could not do when I had to jump on a new server. That made me stop playing.
I really hope they change that or give us the option. I don't have the numbers, but my gut tells me "most" people quit due to waiting for lockouts to become available be it opening the rest of the map, pro mode dungeons or nightmare prime wars. It gets boring not having meaningful content for so long.
What would help OH seriously is to streamline the game. Its is now written for the crowd who needs WAY too many options... it is layer upon layer of fluff. It needs to have more appeal to the casual gamers not just people who are are " influencers " or 40 + hours a week gamers.
Agree, it gets complex quickly especially with all the difference currencies and menus all over the place.
I think the issue is less of the devs misunderstanding the request and more of players misunderstanding the game design. The game isn't designed to be an eternal map. It's designed to be exactly what it is right now and if you don't like it, then maybe this game isn't for you. The devs are trying hard to find some middle ground that doesn't lose the core identity of the game while satisfying player wants, but if player wants are at odds with core design, then one will have to give.
I doubt there are really that many players that dislike the current system. I know a lot of people complained at first, but after giving it a try, they have come around to the identity the game has. The few remaining people that don't like it may just need to find a different game to play if they can't be happy with the compromise.
On the other hand, if there really are that many players that don't like the scenario base system, then the game will suffer for the loss of those players and the devs would need to reconsider their goals with the game if they want to keep it alive.
I don't really mind seasonal wipes. I just want the season to last longer and there should just be more phases to give people stuff to do. I remember people were twiddling their thumbs for about 1 or 2 weeks til the late game area unlocked. Its not that we mind being locked out. Its just there isn't enough stuff to do.
"Having a timer reset on some food." Does your hotdogs in your fridge suddenly get a new expiration date because you put a new package in the fridge with it? You know that it only gets rid of the one that's the oldest, right? It doesn't get rid of the stack. They have it coded so if you put something in a fridge with a like item that has half the life, only that one will go bad when time expires, not both.
in my opinion the fastest way to add something that keep players engaged is to stop changing systems and add something that they can add FAST. Every Scenario should have an unique reward to work for like a special themed armor set or vehicle skin. Also fast would be to add some unique formulas and skins that drop from Monoliths, Silos on hard mode and pro. Crisis events sould be more and better showed with a message or something when they start so ppl can see them better and join. Also the rewards are dull and nobody comes to them. Better incentive is better rewards like skins and formulas again. Like this player have something to farm for in game. And they will farm for something more than just mods. 80% of player are not farming the perfect mods.. they just need something that work ant that is it. YES I know the game is free bla bla. But they kan keep the shop items.. lower a bit the prices so more player buy, take out loot crates and have the items in hop.. again more player will buy but also let players farm skins and formulas in game. Kinda like Fallout76 does.
I agree and I thought that was what we were getting with Prismverse.. the Rosetta and Mayfly outfits but at the end they gave us just regular Mitsuko crates which turned into Cosmetic tokens for 99% of everyone. What a complete waste. You should post this whole suggestion in the forums. I 100% support it.
@TroyGamingtv i did.. many times on Discord.. got over 60 likes.. an nothig happened.. also did the same in surveys.. still nothing. It is like they do not want something like this in game...
Looks like they like to answer questions that suits them the most. And even then they can't answer it properly 😂. Honestly, i expected zero response about game's vram memory leak and they did not dissapoint. Literally everything is more important than the game's performance.
yeah, they were supposed to put in new servers this month too. I wonder where they are with that project.
I believe they have to add a server with smaller phases, If you are a player that knows the game or grind a lot you get to have a pause on the game like too soon
Yup, I recommended combining phases 1/2 and 3/4 if they want to keep us locked down.. but something has to be done. I log in for like 1 day per phase now, complete everything and then leave until the next phase.
Just out of curiosity did they do a live stream with the Dev talk and where can we find a link to see it..??
No, this is part of their "Dev Talks" posts in their Discord. I hope we get an actual live stream before the 19th. Heres the link: discord.com/channels/864458335532744716/1312063808638029884/1312063808638029884
@@TroyGamingtv ah k cheers mate, yeah they will prob do a public dev stream when they do the updates or after they give people time to give more feedback
I think they are not addressing the real problem of the game...like the storage crate where it is ridiculous to put something manually when they can actually automated it like every other game.. its such ahuge waste of time..and very frustrating..also the cpu.and gpu.consumption is way too ridiculous..its sad that the players are finding ways to adjust just.to play this game.instead of them fixing this major problem...
The storage is a pain but it's not completely terrible. You can press H and it will auto place items into storage that are already there. You can also hit G? to auto sort the chests as well. I do recommend getting someone with 64 slots to come by and make chests for you though, really makes it all pretty easy. -- Totally agree on the CPU, its killing my PC.. sounds like a jet engine.
A permanent server wouldnt be so bad if they kept the phase rewards going that'll keep people on them but if those arnt there then you missing out massively on rewards
It cold happen with the new changes to starchrom. Capping at 66k each month and having all new ways to obtain it would mean everyone gets the same amount regardless of their choices. They may just have to hustle a little harder if they didn't have some of the normal phase bonuses.
yer you 100% right but how they gonna scale it with all of the zenarios now
They would need to change their model to adding on to existing scenarios so they could have new content incoming regularly. Theres not enough content for a no wipe right now.
@@TroyGamingtv yer that´s true but think about it how easy they could just get us to start farming formula by adding new house items all whant and can get by rng factors that´s would easy keep people more busy logging in farming houses only can´t belive they havent added more it´s like candy for kids, they have to dare to evolve and look at other games how they keep players. All have somting they can learn from cs go for example they add drop rates for boxes and items from them and player spread wow do you know what i get? and wow 100k players join in and start playing comps again. New world have their S thing and the key and cocunut thing every 7 day i dont play new world 2024 but i do log in for the cds in case. Same in this game i have the 4 builds i think ore know is gonna be meta ore on par with meta in pvp and pve and save close to 100k starcrome mods i have tons of them to gamble if neaded same with key armors and now when we can move around the stars you always gonna have top tier wep and key armor.
Thanks for always making this video updates. I know I can just read them on their Discord or in Reddit but well....reading is not as fun as listening to you talk about it with visual. I retain information better this way. Thank you!
hey troy have u tried jus planting the seeds and not watering the crops .....i think the deviations get satisfied by that and the growshroom cant even pick it cozz its not fully grown.....can u confirm my theory?
I haven't used the growshroom since like season 1 because of the issues and back then they would still clear the plot.. So not sure if your theory works. Maybe ill give it a try for science.
It works, Ive done in all scenarios but Evolution Call
i am a player, and i thing the players are the ones missing the point... this game doesn't need to be the same as other games a permanent server is not a solution, faster leveling and bigger budget or repricing of resources for server transfer would be enough for repeat scenarios, it might not be the be all end all solution but is way better as a solution than just permanent server
You may be right.. could be that all these people that want long term servers end up quitting earlier because there isn't enough content.. but I think if they did it correctly where they add to it every 3 months.. like Manibus then adding on Way of Winter, then adding on a new story or something else, they could keep it fresh enough for them. I personally prefer the wipes :) I love racing from nothing to end game.
I think servers not ending is some what of a solution, this would let players play a season once then stay on a server. im guessing its bcuz i tend to play more solo (tho i do enjoy playing with other players and world chat etc.) if i was end phase of a season loaded up on sutff not seeing the need for other players and if there are people on the server more people may choose to just stay on the current servers till the next scenario releases. id be tempted to just stay on the first season of a scenario vs. playing it twice while waiting on the next sceanrio release. or you could just stay on the first season of a scenarios server and just continue to farm mods on any difficulty you wish while waiting for a new scenario. also you could still farm some starchrom via weekly territroy purifications.
I don't hate the idea, I just don't think it's what anyone asked for. I have some characters sitting on servers now.. would be cool to have all our friends roll alts on a server and then just sit them until everyone leaves and have a server all to ourselves :) This seems like it's going to be super costly though for them since when is it time to shut it down? Theres probably characters that quit and will never log on again.
@@TroyGamingtv it depends , if a server reaches a low count of active players im sure servers could be merged as legacy servers. Could Keep the extra cost down and the players w. less time to play/ wanting of playing for a longer time on 1 season happy and playing.
@ that would be cool.
The need to make an endless server that just repeats the phases. Once phase 5 is over, phase 1 starts again. Endless.
I just started playing the game last week and only just found out about server wipes today. This game is so good but now I'm thinking whats the point of reaching end game just to get wiped. 😢
It doesnt' seem like they understand what we want but I think its a step in the right direction. I think there is a place for permanent servers and normal scenario servers.
I believe a lot of arguments against seem to make some assumptions about the games endgame and the motivations of players who want permanent servers. There
obviously are other considerations besides just making a manibus scenario simply be never ending.
I think a permanent server should have all of the content be a minimum of level 50. This is a end game server after all. You can't join a permanent server unless you are level
50. You would grind levels. The server would basically start in its final phase. Players could come and go as they please with the understanding that if they go to a normal
scenario server they will be reset to level one and all of there stuff will go to eternaland. There are other considerations.
I think what they should do though is give us Manibus Nightmare Mode. Where all of the content is a minimum of level 50. You start the content at level 50 with the entire skill tree, silos/monoliths and map opened opened. Then once we complete a monolith or silo on pro mode we can add an entrance to the silo/monolith to our eternaland. Along with being able to do purifications in our eternaland.
I personally would not care about redoing scenarios if I could restart at 50 and all of the content would be 50.
Personally, though I am playing through my last season. When I finish this last scenario I will ahve ocmpleted manibus 4 times, Prismverse 2 times and Way of Winter one time.
When I returned to the old southern map for the new season it’s way more accessible from drop in. Then it really hits home that all the main items eg weapon crates and mystical crates are in the exact same place. Piss poor! Need to rotate things and freshen up so it’s not instantly familiar. All my mates have already moved on from once human and it’s not fun solo anymore.
Same, its like me and a friend or two. I think they want us to rotate through all the scenarios to keep it fresh. I've done all 4 but 3 of them are the same like you mentioned lol. They do really need to start focusing on adding or changing this up with the initial ones.
I usually forgot what i saw in most places, so to me its always a new discovery. 😂
But my friend (whom ive met on once human) just remembers also everything. Every crate and its approximate location, resource spawn points, deviation location, etc. Its kind of nice to have someone know all that stuff but at the same time its sas for him bc HIS fun is limited.
On the contrary, this is what is required, and finally we will finish repeating the season every time. We are bored.
I hope they are seeing the theme across the community that we need more.. Not necessarily more scenarios, but more content.
fully agree,, the devs really do great job listens to the community, but this is too much.. permanent server will just wasting server for few people. eternal land enough, just need more content there. my problem for once human only the cosmetics price and need more reasons to clear a season, starchrom only not enough need something interesting like costumes/weapon skin, ornament and unique structure like the glass one
Yes! I know they make money off of cosmetics but we should totally get something special for completing content/scenarios as well. The butterfly and trophy are cool, but skins are cooler :) Plus, i've completed 4 seasons already so now I don't even get that lol.
Growshrooms and bees need to be assignable to plots. can't be that difficult. Along with other stuff. It would be soooo nice to not have bees n shrooms going to acid plots or plants u don't want them at. U cant have plots as decorations in ur house unless u go no growshrooms or you go no fertiliser and only 1 plant at a time so u don't have to do it allllll yourself. So simple yet it's not done. I love getting the gold fertilizer so really I want muh bees n shrooms to prioritize these.
If you bother to grow contaminated crops then have fun keeping the bees n shrooms away from them. Or u want herbs n plants not deviated but keep getting deviated ones because herbs take 12 hours so once ur other crops are done the bees will move onto the herbs. I usually have 6-8 bees and 1 shroom running. So many times I've spent just trying to catch each bee and get it close to where I need it and away from where I don't want it at all. The worst part is that many of the plants look really nice when fully grown, but you can't have them as decorations or to keep deviations happy when you have a shroom about. Then you also get bees buzzing about your house. 8 bees all buzzing because they are sad in the house gets tiresome quick. Not as bad as tin men at least.
I agree on most of what you say, in most of your vids, (which i appreciate!) but the grow shrooms are my most important deviants I own, and the fact that you don't get credit for something they pick or the lack of looting a grumpy bulb through them and etc. does make sense esp for all they do. And The idea of a perm server is nicer than i believe it would be in practice. If the phases were a few days reduced, i wouldn't mind resetting near as much. Idk... I'd rather them invest into a WoW season goal besides kill a cw.... And not kill cws never ending.
Thanks! I agree they need to reduce the phase timing or remove them/combine them to speed things up. Especially in the WOW where they are super long. I'd personally like them to combine WOW with Manibus if they can keep the servers stable and then just invest in making the current scenarios more feature rich with a bigger end game. I think they are rushing to push out new scenarios to fast and it's showing with each of them.
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wud be coos to ad a whit list and blacklist and void items filter on the crate
Honestly they need more western devs included so they can better translate what the audience of the west wants, It seems like almost everything we ask for gets lost somehow and they come out with stuff we didnt ask for then get pissy when we say uh that's not what we like or want just like the loot crates and cosmetics looking very fortnite and metro
True. I agree with this.
what about glass building? isnt they answer they gonna add a way to obtain it without buyingin event? i hope its not like only a certain number ppl can obtain it i hope its globally event milestone..
I don't think they will ever give out Glass building without paying for the pack but they did say they will add more pieces to the pack for free for those that have already purchased it. I do hope that in the future they give us much cooler stuff to build with though because the Free to play options are very lacking.
awww... because last time i heard they admit that ppl want it and they respond with thereis another glass piece (different from the one we can buy) that will be added to event so f2p player can earn it
QoL item an auto run key bind (player and vehicle). Overall the game needs fresh content to keep people interesting, there is only so many times you can play Manibus before you are bored out of your mind. Way of Winter felt unfinished and not polished, there was little to do by the time Phase 3 started.
They have auto run, i bound mine to ~. Agree, it's all starting to get boring and we've played the same content way to many times.. need some fresh stuff! I've done Evolutions Call, Manibus (Hard), Prismverse, Way of Winter and now back to Manibus.. can't even get bigger butterfly anymore since i'm on season 5. That's just with my main too. I've done alts on Manibus at least another 5 times. lol
a year long server would be great, no need to re level you character from scratch sounds good. But if they're gonna do a year long server we need a good end game content, as far as I'm aware the true end game currently is deviant hunting with the shadow drop cooldown. I really doubt the devs will add a decent end game since there's just so much in their hands right now. They're biting more than they can chew at the moment.
question workstation blueprint what is the point of that i got 45 tokens click the rare blueprint and i always get the same ones i have so i repeat the process just to get more repetead things after all is said and done i have 5 tokens and got 0 new blueprints from my 45 tokens and this happens everytime just give us what we dont have not the samethings over and over again
It's all RNG but I think it's the only place you can get the toilet and some of the rare American furniture. I watched a video that said do the cheap version to get more rolls and a better chance at the good stuff. So i've been doing that recently.
@@TroyGamingtv when it works and if it works say so please ^^
I suspect that the vast majority that want a permanent server aren't going to be happy when they get it. The game doesn't have nearly enough content to actually support it, it's going to devolve down to a base fiddling & chat room. And I'm sure there will be some super casual players that will be happy with that. But a lot are just going to quit the game due to boredom.
Player drop off on seasons is huge which tells you seasons are TOO LONG NOT TOO SHORT. There just isn't enough to do in the game right now.
People say its great idea for dedicated server with all maps and yet they don't even stay on seasons server to phase 5. The game would be dead in 6 months if they did that. Only reason people play now is because with server wipe ,they have something to do in a new season.
I'm personally a fan of the server wipes and agree that without them people would be bored, probably sooner than 6 months. They really need to focus on adding end game to the current scenarios if they want it to be a long term spot for people.
Not putting things in loot crates is just going to make them up the prices on the actual items. You think 50 dollars was bad for the glass pack? They're gonna have 100 dollar holiday packs now. At least with the loot crates, you had a chance of getting them on your first roll.
No light forge holiday loot is find but they said you can buy what you want….so there’s going to just put it in the store lol. Doubt it’s $10
I hope its on par with the cost of other small packs. Ill be mad if they make it $50 like the big ones. I'm also hoping they give us some free ones with the xmas events.
@ I’m sure some will be free.
@@WeiseGuy91yep, a free elf backpack bling
I stopped once I spent 500 on items in game the loot boxes kept getting even more greedy I said nope all done with spending even a penny on the game
If they keep going the way the latest update has been it won't be so bad. They added bundles where you could purchase it together or each item individually and made the loot crate 3 rounds instead of 6 which drops the price in half. This was their new promise, lets see if they keep it.
yeah what people want was a server that's like an MMORPG base map then just add expansion expansion expansion, if they are worried about people complaining no content for months remind them that they asked for it and other games takes yrs to get a new expansion
I play in japan server and i bought many bundle but.. i want to change my server region to SEA is that possible to bring my japan server char to Sea without creating new char?
have to add agree with you again i havent used grom for planting to atm like you say he do more harm then good i put him in the other day and feed my animals a full stocked base with planter boses and all was gonne i never replant it i have al lthe food in the stofs so they dont drop in age and portal fridge i would not play if i did not have portal fridge and backpack all other is ok but this 2 are like a most have and preserved food ore canned should be longer then 24/h if no buffs thats another thing i don´t like they made so much so we can be afk farming in bases but miss things like this.
Can we just talk about how much it cost to make the portable fridge! I got it as a memetic for the first time last season and was like wtf, this thing better last the whole season and of course it doesnt lol. Super useful though, but ill wait to buy it from a vendor moving forward.
So we can keep soloing Silo's forever? Yep, they totally missed the point. They are married to the scenario system and can not comprehend that many players do not want that. Steam has a big sale for the holidays so I'm going to try out some different games. I'm burned out starting over on Once Human.
May I suggest Path of Exiles 2 on 12/6. I think its going to be crazy good.
It's completely fine with how they wipe servers now.
I agree. I think this is going to end up being a huge draw on their hardware. Are they supposed to keep instances up indefinitely? Or are they going to wait til no one logs in for 7 days before closing it.
Really interesting as always the fish stacking they needed to remove the catch size thing to make that work ther is no point for the fish size stacking is more what ppl want the fridge the same thing maybe if they made more food not spoiled will be nice specially deviated food you craft with deviated stuff I think ppl don't craft to much of this to store on fridge so not good point but I think the ingredients are the big thing to use fridge meat crops I know it's suppose to be survival but they need to make it less grindy like most of time it feel hard to get stuff so you collect then you end up not using it like you saving but yeah this how it feel to me 😅nice video as always❤
Thanks! Yeah, I agree with all those points. I know a lot of people will make a bench, craft a bunch of food and then leave it on the bench since the timer doesnt start until its pulled off.. Just another way to game the system.
@@TroyGamingtv yeah I just start doing that my stove just to save ingredients xD
They need to make the map bigger ofc easier said than done. But their "fix" is a start i think
I wanted them to add WOW to Manibus/Evos Call but after thinking about it the servers wouldn't be able to handle it. They would need to do something with instances. Right now by the 2nd week of WOW the whole server feels like its about to die. So if we can't add to the map then i'd like just more end game stuff or the world to level with us. Thats alone would add a ton of end game if we could go farm the other 4 areas.
@@TroyGamingtv You want the world to "level with us" - so basically, with those folks who got no life and rush it to max lvl within the first week. So what does the rest of us do who actually do have a life outside of gaming and are taking it a lot more slowly and then, have to deal with a world at, say, lvl 20 that's leveled up to accommodate lvl 50 folks? Sounds like something that would make me quit the game faster than you can say Mayfly.
@ no, like other games with this mechanic it would be specific to the player. So if I were 50 I’d see 50 mobs but if you’re 20 those same mobs would be 20 for you.
Making fridges have 64 slots is too much for the servers but having a million vending machines is fine...
it's missing the point because theyre presenting a possible solution that they can currently do. this is why they asked for feedback after their post. don't go straight to reeming them, jfc.
Fair enough, but I still don't think this is going to satisfy the playerbase that want the perm servers. They told us we would get 1 year no wipe servers back in 1.1 and then never brought the topic back up again. Just want to make sure they understand what the community truly wants. A lot of stuff can get lost in translation. I love the game, so will always give them the benefit of the doubt.
I also don't know why everyone is trying to rewrite the game... Everyone that went into this knew that this was going to be a time based server like Rust. To go into a game knowing exactly what it is and then complain because it's that thing is just asinine. There are plenty of building survival games that offer perma-servers. Go play those. Most of us enjoy the time slotted servers. It creates a challenge to become the absolute best in the small amount of time.
OMG I made so many reddit posts about the Growshrooms need fertilizer slot
lol.. Right, its been a major topic forever. I still think they need to add more than just fertilizer though.
man, i know its not the topic, but that gameplay with overweight pj and no hydratation rolling slow as fk its making me anxious lol
lol.. its how I roll (very slowly)
This notice about their idea of what a permanent server would be is total bullshit. Basically, it's just an alternative to Eterna-Pointless-Land. You will STILL need to leave that server to get any new content. AND they totally disregarded our request for an ENTIRE map server. This crap should show us all that the devs aren't actually listening and/or have zero interest in delivering to us what we VERY SPECIFICALLY asked for. I'm in my second go around with my character and I can tell you (and the devs) that I've already had it with this game.
I would love permanent servers. I hate to continue do the same thing again.
I want to stay on the server until I’m ready to move on . I got a life outside of gaming and don’t want to be time gated.
it would be cool if the servers stayed up and instead of having a separate map the current one just got bigger and the level cap increased because the new areas were higher level. This would give us something to build for, because currently we get to the endgame, then there's nothing other than the wait to start again which to be honest is kinda pushing me to play something else out of boredom, eventually I'm just going to get distracted by another game and not come back and I don't want that be3cause I really like this game.
can we please have the hide stacking on armor resolved. Please and thank you. It's throwing all PvP off for the entire game. Please it's messing eveerything up
Which issue is that? I'm unaware.. is it that you can stack or cant stack or it works sporadically?
They will give us 5 eggnogs
5 seems a bit steep. Maybe 4 and 25 silver.
I think your suggestion on growshrooms is very bad. I just started using atleast 2 growshrooms and put the seeds I need them to plant in at the same time. This way they plant the seeds 50/50, 33/33/33 etc as long as u put the same amount of seeds in each of them. Works perfectly for me this way and the addition of fertilizer will make the growshrooms imo one of the best deviations in the game, I use them all the time already anyway.
Them reusing the seeds they used before after harvesting/drawing from storage will just keep the crops occupied and you have to reset growshroom settings frequently. This would make the process more tedious overall.
I didn't know you could do different seeds on multiple and they would split it evenly. Either way, I plant like 10+ different items so I don't think there would be anyway for me to utilize the grow shrooms in their current state.
This would not be fun,You'd need to consider raising the level cap
I wouldn't mind a cap and tier raise.
o and another thing pleas pleas tell tham to make and and on the vending truck drama on safe zones
I know they are working on something with Vendors but not sure if it's coming soon or if it was what they already released. Hopefully theres more to it.
Theres not enough endgame content to make a permanent server. I can bet these players will get bored eventually. The game is not designed yet to be played on permanent server imo. They can slow down the progress like experience gain and loot but thats not efficient and healthy imo. Anyway, people are always welcome to try i guess, especially those who hate seasonal resets, but then again, the next complaint will be no enough content, coz again its not designed that way, especially pve and no pvp. Pvp is one good way to endgame content imo.
Id rather have fishes to stack yes.
I posted the growshroom suggestion lol. I know everyone wants it anyway, i just took the initiative. Yes cant make decorative garden because of growshrooms.
I already feel the pain the last 2-3 days of each stage ... let alone a permanent server, would have no idea what to do there. But hardcore grinders don´t mind.
I think what you said is spot on and why they won't put in the permanent servers. The main thing right now they need to focus on imo is adding to what they have and not making another new scenario.. Lets mash it all together :)
Exactly what i was thinking. All these people want a permanent server without realizing that it could kill the game within a year. The game is designed for resets. If they implement a permanent server, this game will be like ghost recon. Yes the map is huge, more stuff to do, but people can finish the game within a year. They should stick to the resets and fix all the stuff that needs fixing, create more content, and make the game balanced.
@@TroyGamingtv i would be thrilled to have manibus and wow together as one big map AND scenario, and lets get back to Mary (was her name right? the spy villain) what happens after that. We saw her in a flashback or something in the helicopter cutscene like i thought that was so cool, kinda like a successful T-virus human from resident evil. And looking at the stronghold the butterfly lady asked us to raid, it had human size capsules, like they were experimenting on humans, like there has to be more of her, like an organization Mary belongs to. Theres so much more we can try to do.
Increase the level cap, not necessarily add more specializations, it can stop at lvl 50.
Problem for me in WoW, is that there are no story quests for the Great Ones and the treant is a reskin idk how that will work, like what? another person turned treant? Servitor mechanic was interesting to me id wish i could find out via story quest, just like the old Great Ones.
Rosetta taking advantage of the staroid thingy to make bioweapons and turn humans into weapons etc. theres a lot more that we can discover imo. But devs are already asking for scenario suggestions which is kind of a bummer.
Anyway i talked too much. Maybe finish the story and the whole map then create a perma server. Point is, more content.
@@AurioDK same, like for me, if my only concern is PVE, im not into speed runs, whats the point? theres no difference in rewards anyway, theres no incentive. SO what usually happens is as long as its enough, its good enough for me. im done whats next? nothing? lol thats when it gets boring.
PVP can make people do different builds try different tactics. It helps prolong end game content a little more. But sadly lag is still an issue.
Wait guys u use eternalamd building houses? Haha i used that only in repairing my gears
I didn't even know you could go to eternaland to repair gear. Thats a great idea especially if you bring over like a Tier 5 weapon in Phase 1
We don't want a server based game that ends after 6 weeks. That's the most hopeless thing I have ever heard of in gaming. Just create a game like any other game that just works. Add new content without closing the server. Make seasons like every other normal game. A season lasts at least 3 months. Not all of us gamers are RUclipsrs streamers or people just sit at home and game all day. We gat jobs and families. 6 weeks content is total bs. If they r making a game just for streamers they better say so. I repeat 6 weeks is just BS. Is this an actual game or a beta.??? 6 weeks..... What the actual f......
Just open the entire map. Make it last at least 3 months a season. This scenario BS won't work. Yo game is doomed to die I promise u.
We are forced to abandon our normal life just to play yo game before six weeks end. And staying longer in a server without people is pointless because you forced them to grind so fast so that they can go to another server to repeat the same content all over again. Why make a simple thing complicated. Just remove that 6 weeks BS. Make it at least 3 months
Agree, and maybe we will see something longer. They revealed in a content creator chat that the goal is 3-4 scenarios per year.
Is it me or does it seem like alot of these people complaining because they are lazy and want everything done for them??? Oh wait they might be the same people I hear complaining on Fallout 76 also... Do the work,play the game, stop being lazy equals having fun! What's wrong with people these days man!
If it feels like work for someone than it's not really a game they should be playing. We play games to have fun :)
I hope they follow the advice i gave them, i said remove the resets and let us use Manibus as our main base server with the new starcrom system and even way of winter towers, then make new scenario phases where we can infil set up a small temporary base that has access to everything we have unlocked on our main base and extract the resources and things we get on new scenario phases back to our main base.. This way we can infil to smaller map phases set up a smaller base, do the missions and tasks with the freedom of moving between our main base on manibus to the different phase maps, etc Onyx Tundra as a scenario phase map, Vena Fjord as a different map, same as Ember strand as another map, infil build a small temporary base do the task missions etc then exfil back to main base.. They should of just made Manibus novice our main permanent home base server instead of erternaland, at least we would be able to do things on manibus novice that benefit the game.. Hopefully they eventually give us a main base server and then the freedom to be able to move between different phase servers instead of permanently being stuck there and having to reset every phase, i do not have to many more resets left in me, all i build is the minimum necessity things on my base now because all i am going to do is delete it when i finish the scenario, i'm not looking forward to having to waste hours deleting all the crap i have accumulated in my spacetime backpack from resets that i am not going to use because of the resets..
I like this and it sounds a little like Nightingale from what i've read.. I have the game but haven't played it yet.. but I think its the same concept. Theres like a home base and then you go through portals into different scenarios to explore and do stuff.
@@TroyGamingtv I've never heard of nightingale, I'm a ex Call of Duty DMZ player.. We had a main large map to play on then we had 3 other smaller maps we could go to and play on.. i was thinking something similar to what we had on DMZ but as open world maps.. We already TP on once human maps now, being able to TP to different scenario phases on smaller maps while having a main base on a large map just makes sense..
@@TroyGamingtv Another way to look at is how we have our map then how we can teleport to different worlds, having something similar to teleport to different phase scenario's on smaller maps and give our campsites full access to stoves, supply and gear benches, storage crates etc what we have unlocked on our main base.. then we can move between our permanent base on a main big map to different phase scenarios as they release them also going back to old previous map scenarios.. Another way to look at it is how we load into Eternaland we load into different phase scenario's with maps the same size as each region map we have now..
@@TroyGamingtv With the server resets and devs saying they are trying to keep people on a similar path to leveling up was never going to work.. All it does is screw up progression for us casual players who spend the first week to 3 weeks of each reset trying to get back to where we were previously before the reset while others level up in a day or two every reset.. They need to let us have a main base map where we retain our progression and add new phase scenario's to it, then every 12 months they can do a full reset and new main big map if they want.. This will prob be my last reset and if they change it i will come back if they don''t i am not starting over again just to continuously play catch up every few weeks with scenario resets.. The resets make the game to grindy and repetitive especially for most part they are just recycling the same content with some smaller changes to it, i'm going back to playing extraction shooter games where i retain my progression instead of it being reset every few weeks.. They should of named the game groundhog day instead of once human lol..
So, basically, you want them to change the game mechanics completely.
'we want a server that doesn't wipe and we don't want to play on a dead server' ... do you not get how that doesn't make any sense for people who actually want to play the game every day? People want to jump in for 3 hours on phase 4 of a server and insta-unlock everything and get all the currency for free, when there's actual dedicated players literally carrying the server through every goal. This game is doomed trying to cater to new players.
I think those are a different group of players. Theres people that want no wipe for building, focusing on end game, maybe they don't have a lot of time to play.. and theres also people that want to hop in late and take the resources with little effort. I think the second part is being addressed with the new starchrom system. I personally like the wipe schedules but I think having 1 or 2 perm severs would be good for a subset of players as well.
Totally missed the point. Have a permanent server, make new content for it, or all us to bounce out to events in other servers then head back. I understand they had a vision, but if they stick to it and don’t bend the game will die.
They need to turn the tar pudding collection rate back up some....
just hopped to a new scenario and server is dead already
oh wow. You should go into a Hard mode server.. they tend to stay active to the end.
Every time I make the bad decision of placing in a Tin Man at my base he lasts about 10minutes before he is fired and back into the backpack. And for some reason they keep giving us worthless Tin Men of all various types n colours. Why not bees or Whims or something as well. Tin men are completely useless if you have walls, steps, slopes, turtles, mice, etc, etc, etc. Just constantly shooting over something or into a wall. Get outta here. You're fired. Deported back to the BP.
These devs miss the mark on every point. Apart from that, what about content?! This game is so shallow in that department and it makes me look forward to PoE2 even more.
yeah, they need to add a bunch more. Its very beta and they are focused on Mobile at the moment so I don't see much changing anytime soon.. I'll be on POE 2 and doubt "not enough content' will ever leave my lips even in beta lol. I already started making content for the game today. Ill be adding much more as the it goes on. Path is one of my all time favorites.
Pvp is saving the game
I'd love if that were true but with the server lag and the disappointment of Prismverse they need to deal with some stuff or they will lose those players too. However, if I had to guess i'd say its like 90%/10% pve players vs pvp.
The lag in pvp is super minimal atm but the mining bug or if they did it on purpose with clash is bad. No pvp at events during the day prisms gone in 8 minutes. My server mayfly leads by 4k middle of phase 2. Its not fight for prisms its who can cut more trees lol@TroyGamingtv
@@ErikJohnson-m4e lol, yeah thats what it's turned into. They talked about a new squad based scenario recently so I'd like to see how that one shapes up. Probably early 2025.. and hopefully it doesn't turn into who can pve better.
Nah frfr
It’s the only reason I’m still playing.
They need to stop the BS and give us more than 50 lvls. Just slow down 50 to 100 almost like prestige…Boom, problem fixed!
@ErikJohnson-m4e in my server we are 51% to 49% 🫨
Well i hate always lightforge crates🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
lightforge crates suck but the 10 spins at half off aren't too bad and then dupe points you get are a nice touch to pick up cheap things from future packs. As long as they keep putting out good stuff individually, which they started doing with the last update, it will be okay in my book. They need to pay the bills somehow.
I need subtitles, thanks
Do they not work automatically?
Devs in panic mode since people gradually leaving the game after Way of Winter 🤣
Y what y say is reasonable but, we need to get to that point gradually, or Game will still feel empty. we cant have copy paste silos like way of winter had. Also all content so far cant be just mashed together. Endless scenarios needs to me build over few years, or players just leave.
Also we need hidden features in silos like do something it will launch hidden boss with hidden loot or mods not available other way. Or fast runner rewards first to clear fastest to clear. Title reward stats and didn't our character supposed to be something with some king of powers also where is the magic.
I agree with all of that. Game still feels very beta and I think it needs time to grow. Just hope they build upon what we have and slow down on adding new, unfinished scenarios. It's free to play so they get new players as fast as old ones leave so the impact of their decisions probably isn't showing in the steam numbers.
@@TroyGamingtv Y are right many game has get downed by the bugs never fixed. I loved Conan exiles my friend did not lags studders and bug's. And for some ppl first impression is all just uninstall and never try again.
food doesnt need to expire its so easy to create.. its just a 20 minute waste of time to create.. just to build server time .. none of the combat deviations are doing damage or even working currently.. butterfly does nothing any more.. jus sits on ground
I disagree with these whiners. The original idea behind the Once Human concept is "Scenario" base. and once the scenario ended you wont be getting anymore frags and any more starcroms. Once Human is a totally non pay to win game and it is MEANT as a grinding game. Grinding meant that you can bring your friend to tag along with you and grind strongholds for mats, mods, etc.The event runs in a period of 5 phases and once it ended, no more reward can be obtain so why would you want to stay extended period of time? Might work for PVE server, but Minibus? Way of Winter? After permanent server approved then what? extend level cap to 100? Content like Lifeafter? Add ridiculous powerups like Undawn? if so then what's the difference between OH and LA or Undawn? Might as well go back and play Undawn and whine forever.
how tf are you supposed to do a permanet server. The flipping thing would be littered with shit
If you don't log in for 7 days your items go into your backpack and your home gets saved and needs to be replaced. So it would clear itself out as people come and go.