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in korea instead of those yellow bars, they installed automatically opening screen doors, to prevent suicdal attempts...but its too expensive...the us just signed a 54 million dollar migrant aid progrram, there 80 billion going to ukraine and israel.....we're a big spender with little to no money in our pockets lol...
Well he did say it has a modern gangway.
WRONG !!! TTC transit in Toronto has this openeded trains on Yonge University line
Looks similar with minor variations to Toronto's TTC subway cars that they got around 10 years ago...!
Americans are impressed ... People in China are laughing.... No wonder Americans are jealous of China.
0:56 Last time I checked, Toronto was still in North America… they’ve had articulated open gangway subway cars for 10+ yrs 😂
And the sky train in Vancouver which is the only public train I’ve ever rode. I just thought they were all like that. Going to NYC in June and being in a closed off car will be very strange.
@@chadsmoand hawaii has one one
@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq Hawaii isn’t in North America.
We've had it for 37 years in Singapore..
@@aero.l
TIL Singapore is in North America.
0:57 This is the only train in north america to have ganways
Toronto rocket has left the chat
beat me to it. we've had open gangway subway trains here for more than 10 years
Honolulu’s new rail line also has open gangways.
Came here to say this, too. I wonder if there was some “broken telephone” going on there… is there something else about the gangway that’s unique?
youre wrong cuz america is the only country that matters smh
he has been living in a cave forever.
Montreal's subway system has had similar types of trains in service since 2016 and it now represents the majority model of the metro's rolling stock. Because Montreal's subway system is 100% underground, subway surfing has never been an issue.
When did Toronto get the open gangway cars? Well before this one in NYC. Obviously this guy hasn't traveled to any other subway system.
Toronto’s trains (on its busiest line, anyway) have been like this since about 2012 or 2014.
@@michaelsukhu3607 No need to crap on @HereBeBarr for not knowing the public transit systems in other cities in North America. He's an excellent resource of all things NYC. I don't know when the TTC started with the current style of trains as my last time on the TTC was in 2007. Rather than diss someone, try adding information. It's more polite and helpful.
New York seems to be so far behind European cities,in Stockholm Sweden we have had these carriages in operation for well over ten years now,with cameras,with the destination signs on the train and platform barriers
@@noahpettersson3385 Arguably, a 120 year old system that's been treated mostly with an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude, will result in a lag that grows exponentially as technology advances and it's even worse with such an expansive system. I was surprised when MTA Metro cards started being used, as Montreal's system had already been using a similar system many years prior. And none of these issues even begin to touch on where various countries prioritize their infrastructure and the impact that has on mass transit modernization.
Looks like the Hong Kong MTR trains from the 1990s. Good job NYC. Hope they roll this out to all trains ASAP! Love it
It'll take forever to get to the main lines and won't slow down crime really.
@@M4TTYNthank you! Somebody with some sense.
@@Mightymorphinpowerbottoms Obviously, it wont eliminate crime but its still literally better and I dont think anyone is honestly claiming it will eliminate crime. Cameras are better than no cameras. Guards watching it can immediately sent a cop or guard to the train at the next stop. Open gangways are in most modern train cars so its bout time New York upgraded their trains.
@@M4TTYN ah, so lets not do anything and whine about crime all day while doing nothing about the issue
Cameras don't matter if the criminals are released time and time again.😂
Plus, the criminals could wear masks.
It's more so that majority of crimes will go unsolved.
Or if they're illegals...
That doesn’t happen too much in NYC. That happens more in SF, and that is often because of under-resourcing than anything else.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Sorry, your comment is not true. I live here in New York City and the crime is out of control. The biggest problem is D.S. Bragg not prosecuting these felons because of D.E.I. and not reporting these crimes. Look, what's happening within our subways, the illegal, the aliens, and with the shelter system.
What rock are you living under?
Definitely not the first train in North America. Toronto has the accordion patches and a completely open trains.
so does montreal
Mexico City has had them for more than a decade
so does Vancouver
My 4 favourite North American cities in one post. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal , Mexico City. 😅
Guadalajara's Line 3 also has those, you can walk from one end of the train to the other, really spacious trains
Asia systems have had these features for decades. plus more
I know right? It’s way better and some Americans are complaining about the change…🤦♂️
Yeah, not even just Asia. The surveillance state notwithstanding, these are very basic features that have been used all over the world for decades, indeed.
Yeah! Hell, even Canada has these, not as widespread as it is in other countries though of course.
America is that way behind in these things. They literally are a third world country in a gucci belt😂
I don't know about "Asia systems" but the MTA is running trains nearly every 10 minutes to 472 stations 24/7 across a city that in some areas can be really shitty and still mantain it pretty well
I love how he says "first in America" but Canada has had open cars for years!
There is no point in comparing Canada to the retarded USA.
And The Netherlands SINCE THE START!
@@TrueMT7and Hawaii has them too
Canada is not a real country.
Perhaps he meant the USA?
This isn't going to stop any crime in NYC subways. Particularly when Alvin Bragg is the criminal's greatest ally and keeps them on the streets.
Best comment.
He's your DA? Damn...
It's like Harvel Dent siding with the Joker in Gotham City.
They stop subway surfing and have fancy digital ads and green lights 😂😂😂😂😂 wtf
Alvin Bragg has orders to keep the criminals on the street...
that woman at around 0:09 is wrong lol, toronto already has open gangway trains 😂
im still happy that the mta has these cars now, its a great addition and i hope they get more!
That was the governor 😂
for 12+ years, too!
from 0:02 ~ 0:07, another typical Yankee who lives in early 20th century but thinks that The USA is in the 21st century.
@@elliectroncakecool. Cities in europe and asia have hsd it longer than ive been alive
Lol Toronto has had open subways that you can go car to car in for like 10 years.
NYC needs a BUKELE solution.
What is “BUKELE”?
El Salvador president that has a "highly criticized" approach to get rid of crime. Take that as you will
@@bricktvitiessalvadorian president who is ruthless when it comes to criminals he made our country from one of the most dangerous in the americas to one of the most safest
The open gangway will allow the bullets to travel even farther once they start flying. 😢😂
That’s not how it works.
At least they will have a camera and AI to record it. Instead of issuing conceal and carry licenses.
Finally someone that makes sense. Same thing I said. It's a set up
Not really, I don’t think the bullet would travel that far because of gravity being played in here, and plus I don’t think the person that’s shooting can get a direct shot in the gangways and ends up hitting the sides of the train or even the bars
That’s very, very rare on the Subway nowadays.
As a Texan kiddo, I have a strong affection for NYC and a deep admiration for the city itself.
However, every time I've visited and encountered some of the aggressive and insane characters on the subway, my anxiety shoots through the roof.
On my subway trips when I visited New York two months ago, I just generally kept to myself and put on my airpods to tune out some of the more “vocal” people on the subways.
same I love NYC so much, but I hate times square, one time a dude dressed as elmo was following me right behind my back uncomfortably close, and there was some dude trying to sell me CDs in the west 4th station (unsuprisingly) he cornered me and was getting real close, I knew it was a scam, so I said I had to go and then he started screaming at me and calling me racist. One thing I've learned in new york: JUST. KEEP. WALKING.
As a New Yorker who lived here most of his life, I can't wait to leave. The quality of life is very low here
@amitysanta6927 Heh the end of that comment reminds me of a time I was visiting NYC in 2017. We weren't exactly in NY when this happened since we were staying in a hotel in Newark since it was cheaper to sleep there and use NJT over a hotel in NY but we were at Newark Penn Station heading back to our hotel (I was 13 at the time with my dad) and some dude asks us for money. We ignore him and he gets louder (doesn't start coming after us but gets louder) until he eventually goes "Thanks Donald Trump!" I learned from that to just ignore what insults strangers yell out at you for not complying with whatever they say because it doesn't really matter.
It's a shit hole. I never bother visiting. I would rather visit clean cities like Tokyo, Seoul, or Hong Kong.
Edit: I grew up in NYC. I now live in Orlando. I haven't visited in 10 years.
I had seen those connected open cars in other countries many years ago. Those barriers in front of the tracks you showed are not that great. They only block some areas. I love that in some countries in Asia, the whole area of the tracks is blocked and it opens only when the train has stopped. I wish they had those in the US. It prevents people from being shoved into the tracks, and also suicides.
I hate to say it, but NYC is old and behind the times when it comes to the subway systems.
@@billf4429 Not just NYC, but likely the US in general
It also prevents garbage from being thrown onto the tracks.
@@ClaireandNanami, there are parts of the United States that have good public transit; don't pat attention to the disaster whores on RUclips that love to point out the shortcoming of public transit because 'it's not Europe/Scandinavia/Southeast Asia'.
It also makes air conditioning of stations a better reality as the platform areas are sealed with air only escaping when the doors open.
As a tourist I appreciate knowing where I am and where my stop is in the lineup. This is a significant improvement over the last scary time I road the subway.
One of the things that I enjoyed about my recent visit to Paris was how wide and well-lit the subway stations were. Yes, some of the more touristy lines have those glass safety panels.
Hello! I live in paris and I hate the metro.. dirty, dangerous and almost like a maze.. the newer stations are much more pleasant I agree. But the old ones and all the tunnels in chatelet ect is horrible
@@linuswittstrom4917 I’m so sorry. It was my first time there and the only experiences that I can compare it to are NYC and Chicago. I just felt that the platforms were wider and, despite being underground, had decent lighting. It can be quite a maze.
@@cmandersontenor i have never been to the U.S. Do you think that there is less homless ppl in the metro in paris? Or cleaner than U.S? I plan on going to U.S maybe.
@@linuswittstrom4917 Gosh... once again a French self-hater convinced that he lives in a hell hole...
Paris metro isn't particularly dangerous, far less than the ones in North America.
Chatelet is gigantic and was revamped fairly recently. It's pretty good now and the busiest underground exchange station in the world outside of Asia.
I love the Paris metro and have lived in Paris for 40+ years. I've also traveled a lot and if you find Paris metro horrible, you'll hate NYC's subway : ceilings are low, it's often quite dark and the ride is can be quite bumpy.
You need to travel, really. ..
How about keeping criminals out of the system and keeping them in jail?
NY JUDGES LETTING THE CRIMINALS OUT.
All sentences end. Violent offenders are not incarcerated indefinitely. What this type of offender needs is intensive justice rehabilitation/the opportunity to meet and hear their victim(s) if the victim agrees; also compulsory ongoing psych assessment, anger management group therapy and drug rehabilitation if appropriate. The issue is that this increases prison costs hugely. A challenge now compounded by the current move to privatise prisons which then become businesses…
Prisons have always failed both offenders and their victims by simply incarcerating offenders before dumping them back into society, many having gained no insight or ability to control their public behaviour.
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
These "innovations" have been standard in East Asian subway systems in China, Japan, and Korea for 15 years. They also have full platform screen doors to block people from being pushed. You can make the subways super modern all you want. It's not going to stop the crazy/weird people from riding them. If you want less crime, you need to live in a society with consequences for antisocial behavior. And also you need an education system that teaches people to behave properly, both of which the US doesn't really have.
New York City trains aren’t uniform so having screen doors is impractical for now. Only the number lines could have them and the L train since it’s runs solo
@@dubreil07 What a diverse society! Nothing is uniform.
Does East Asian education show you guys how to lecture like pretentious d-bags online, or is that a naturally occurring phenomenon
Does East Asian education show you guys how to lecture like pretentious d-bags online, or is that a naturally occurring phenomenon
Montreal and Toronto too. USA needs to catch up but not Honolulu.
The biggest annoyance not mentioned of these open cars will be the nonstop breakdancing panhandling. Maybe the NYPD Dance Team can perform on the trains?
The Open Gangway trains actually mitigate the problems you mention since it’s easier to escape from them.
I know what you mean. But if there was a way to utilize them to certain areas to do that then it's fine. Like 34th Street. I'd rather have that than what has been happening.
When i saw the gangways, i immediately had the horrible thought of showtime going on for infinite ,like a bad psychedelic trip on your way home from work.
@@newday8545 Yeah but they do that anyway going car to car. You do know that some cities do have open cars. I live in Newark, there is no street performers in the cars. I've only seen it maybe once. Even the pandhandling seemed to stop. I don't know why. PATH systems are closed car that you can walk through. Light rail is open gateway. Amtrak and NJT are open gateway. LIRR systems are open gateway. I mean we already have subways where they took out seats just to have a full area to stand. But I do get what you mean. The only way to stop it is to have officers say you can't do it and relegate it to either Times Square or 34th St. That's how it was in the days and that's where it should go not on the subway.
@@yuukisama2001 i meant more of the hilarity of seeing multiple showtimes going on at the same time lol and how annoying and crazy that would be.
We had this in Toronto for awhile, good to see you're now up to speed New York.
‘Good to see that NYC has been so watered down by a foreign population that they’re willing to be spied on, like every other unoriginal & boring ‘city’
‘Good to see that NYC has been so watered down by a foreign population that they’re willing to be spied on, like every other unoriginal & boring ‘city’
New York City, ain’t Japan. We can blame the MTA, but also the ignorance of all of us messes up the subway experience for each other!
That part
Right… culture creators don’t happen in aseptic & rigid law abiding populations
Which is why other than anime, Japanese are obsessed with and mimic Americans… not the other way around
George Jetson would be proud of this technology! I really like the openness of the cars!
There is just one thing though, are there any improvements for the visually impaired?
Overall very nice update.
Its not the only one in North America. Toronto has had open subway trains for years.
If you just kept the criminals in jail you wouldn't have this big problem 80% are repeat offenders
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
These cars remind me of the Beijing and Seoul subways. This is much nicer.
Crime surveillance works as deterrent only if there are actual consequences to the criminal activities. With current state of things large number of crimes go unpunished simply because DA is not willing to prosecute. You can put 50 cameras in each car and surveil all you want but it will not change a thing as long as criminals are protected.
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
Those corners on the platform barriers is a hazard in waiting.
Only for the stupid .
I was waiting for the Queens-bound E at 42nd street when suddenly the new C train pulled up, so I said the hell with it and took it one stop north. It was quite the thrill ride
The R211T’s aren’t the first subway cars in North America to have open gangways, both the Toronto Rocket’s of the Toronto subway and the MPM-10’s of the Montreal Metro entered service in the early 2010’s with fully open gangway trains, followed by the ART Mark III’s on the Vancouver Skytrain in the mid-2010’s. On top of that, the Mexico City Metro has had open gangway trains since 2005.
She’s probably meant USA
@@dubreil07 Continental US, the Hawaiian’s got open gangway trains first.
Tbh I have read NY subways actually had the first open ended gangway cars but they weren't practical at the time of service.
MPM-10 entered service in 2016 but good point too though
Long benches = homeless sleeping
Better solve homelessness
The sliding door setup solves the most problems. Good example is the Airtrain in JFK to Jamaica etc. The argument that things cost money is a boring argument, and the argument that America's infrastructure, and NYC's subway system in particular, needs an upgrading is no longer an argument.
With that said, cost control is a serious issue and if NYC transit can’t get that under control, there’s no hope to actually modernizing the existing system - let alone getting desperately needed expansions.
@@eriklakeland3857 agreed. No one at any level seems to understand this or get it under control. Just us plebs 😉
this was very informative! thanks bro will ride that new train next time 🙏
Sadly, technology can't fix people. Too many of the people who needs the subway (if it close, they wouldn't be able to move around) don't want to pay for it thinking the "government"/State has to pay for it.They need to start treating the subway like you would treat your car: pay your fare!
What do you mean?! The state is here to pay for its infrastucture! And do you really want to put more cars on the road by making other modes of transit more expensive?
wont make much difference when the DA wont charge criminals.
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
They’re not putting cameras up to protect the general population from street criminals….
It’s to protect the criminals in power from the general population
Or haven’t you figured that out yet?
Great video, Jon, and good coverage. Stay safe!
Thanks 👍
I’ve lived in NY my entire life and I can personally say people evade fares because the system is just not worth it, overpriced, dirty, rat infested, barely any safety, and what small changes we get move slower than molasses, while the price hikes continue regardlessly. While the MTA constantly cries about annual losses they take in billions, and are too busy enriching themselves versus actually innovating the system to the degree of other countries. The city’s corruption has no bounds, and just to lay a quarter mile of track in the city, is in the tens of millions which is ridiculous compared to what other countries do for fractions of our budgets.
Even these new models are dated by at least 15 years with exception of the camera system, which should have been a given at least a decade ago as security systems are drastically cheap. Even cameras off network but constantly recording as a backup to daily activity would have been better than waiting for a system that is accesible in real time, and that’s only now being discussed. Compare what the city has given to incoming migrants already and ask yourself what the train system would look like if they received that money.
Right
I'm a new yorker of 37 years and I noticed when the city stopped fining ppl for break laws like when Giuliani and Bloomberg was mayor or hell stated to break loose.
I remember the days of ppl getting tickets for placing their bag on the empty seat preventing others to sit or spiting gum on the ground this was early 2000s
The nyc subway us still 25 years behind Asia
Tourists should be warned to avoid bad stops (most of brookyn and the bronx)
Also when tourists or non locals come to astoria, they should be warned not to get off the train as astoria is not for them😊😊
the bronx aint bad what you talking about and astoria is a nice place but its not like top tier level for tourists
Avoiding most of Brooklyn? Are you stuck in the 70s?
It's about time. NYC should be a leader in innovation and technology . And the NYC subway should be part of that.
NYC has fallen too far behind many Asian and European countries. It will take decades to catch up, especially now, that tax money are pouring out for anything but American needs.
every new yorker knows to avoid that one empty subway car. with this new setup, the entire train will be too smelly to ride.
That’s not how any of this works.
@@TheRailLeaguer assuming you're actually a new yorker who knows what i'm talking about, explain how the smell of piss and sh!t from one car will not permeate throughout the entire train. if you're not from NY, then know your role and shut your mouth because you have no idea what my original comment was about.
@@JerryThomas-fg9msReal internet tuff guy ain't you 🤡 😂😂😂😂
I've ridden this model and it had a homeless person on it. There was stink in that specific car but only for a couple of minutes after the guy left due to the ventilation. And it didn't even spread through the entire car.
@@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089 You beat me right to it. Not to mention that the Open Gangway cars do allow for one to easily escape from the person in question easily.
Used several metro trains like these in Europe and was in NY last week. I prefer the open vehicles. Feels less crowded.
We've introduced an open carriage metro like this in Sydney the last few years (and still expanding) and it feels so eery too use! Just seeing all the way down the next carriage and the one after and seeing so many people takes adjusting too. We're very accustomed to double decker suburban trains here and the open layout + having one level trains takes to time to get used too but it's great. And so modern.
Toronto’s entire subway car fleet has had almost all these features for years. Welcome to the 21st century, New York.
Montreal have exactly the same since 2016. We had same questions at beginning but it turn that very handy to be able to walk throughout the entire train.
Amsterdam and Rotterdam (Netherlands) have bedn like this for 40 years! SINCE THE START! I cannot believe how nyc is soo far behind.
This isn’t the only train in North America like this 💀 Toronto had these open gangways for years
I literally just visited NYC for the first time last week, and found the hardest thing about the subway trains was not knowing what stations were coming up next (you can barely understand or make out what the announcements on the trains are saying) and where they are headed. Most other subway systems have digital signs saying what station is next, but not NYC. and when you try to look outside the windows you can't always see what stop you're at. It's terrible! Also the maps that are few and far between on the trains, are generic and don't show if you're on an "express" train and not stopping at all stops etc. It's a nightmare for tourists (and I'm pretty savvy in subway systems having travelled to europe (paris, rome etc) and London and sydney and Tokyo, and they were all fairly easy to navigate.
This didn't age to well. Look what happened this morning to the man killed by the 3 that are running loose 😳
I would disagree with your claim that NYC as the first walk through carriages in North America México City also has connecting carriages on one of their metro lines for almost 10 years now.
Love how you're celebrating something most transit systems in the country have had for over 15 years.
Liberal logic 101, let's spend millions or billions of dollars to modify the subway system instead of getting rid of the bail reform act and
Start holding criminals accountable.
I really appreciate the video and thank you for confirming liberal stupidity that has been responsible for injuries and deaths.
Truth! I agree 1000%
Hong Kong's MTR (Mass Transit Railway) is thirty years ahead of NYC when it comes to commuting trains and foolproof protection of commuters from the train tracks. The system works superbly.
That 15 seconds emergency door is a lawsuit waiting to happen
The easy solution to reducing subway shovings is to remind riders to stay back from the edge of the platform (e.g. 10 feet) until the train comes to a stop. This will also allow the passengers to exit faster and allow the entering passengers unrestricted access to the doors. Installing a barrier just encourages people to lean against them and start congesting the edge of the platform.
I started watching this assuming it was a parody. Didn’t realize they were sincere!!
Nothing is crime-proof in Alvin Bragg's NYC.
London has had the open gangway for years lol, especially for the C stock
It's like watching RUclips in ages past. At least New York is kind of catching up, but there's still a lot to criticise. For one, make the fire exit gate sound an automatic alarm when used, and don't have it directly adjacent to the turnstiles.
You would love the trains in Tokyo if you like this train.
Great video. Actually, the subway trains in Toronto have the open gangway.
Also getting in the news: Police seek suspects after killing in NYC subway.
"Crime proof" indeed. 😂😂😂
If that looks futuristic to him, Korean Subway will look like a space shuttle.
Toronto has had all of these features on its subway cars for years: gangways, next stop, which side to exit, cameras, etc. Perhaps these new cars came from when Andy Byford went to NYCTA from TTC. I was surprised NYC hadn't had these things yet.
I'd say NYC is behind from my POV like in Singapore, Korea, Japan, some parts of Europe, but this gives me hope that NYC is finally modernizing like the rest of the world. Also, in some countries they have each car connected like the accordian way but have a door to separate the cars still.
Waste of money. Lib judges refusing to punish criminals will negate fanciful security measures.
Toronto had these kind of trains since 2011 lol
An emergency exit gate that delays the opening of gates defeats the whole purpose of an emergency door.
3:35 - I like all those complaints. I'm from Berlin where we've had completely walkable subway trains for almost 30 years, but it's only thanks to New Yorkers that I now understand how lucky I've been not to be burned alive in one of the daily subway car fires.
Yes I was on the new train Monday so clean a breath of fresh air
In order for platform screen doors to work with the NYC Subway, the MTA would need to standardize on one single car design per division. All the doors on every single car would need to be the same size and at the same locations as every other car in the same division. Every train would also need to stop at the same exact location each time.
As an American who left the US for Europe 17 years ago, It's kind of hilarious to see these basic train features that are prevalent in even the poorest European nations, described as amazing new updates. US really be lagging bro.
Toronto has had these open gangway subway cars with the accordion links for many years. "This is the only train in North America quite like this" my ass!
it's still jawdroppingly shocking how the lifeline of NYC was left to deteriorate to this state when the rest of the world has left it in the dust. dont get me wrong, won't stop using it when visiting, it is a novelty afterall. but i cant imagine having to depend on this system on a daily basis for work and living, especially after having experienced the Singaporean and HK networks.
It's amazing how the new NY trains still feel much older than many metro trains in Madrid, Berlin, London and many other European cities that are more than a decade old lol
Sounds like you’re trolling so the old trains in these Madrid and Berlin and London had all this high tech decades ago? It’s a rhetorical question because you are lying
@@dubreil07 with "high tech" you mean connecting carriages, screens, wide doors and lights? Lol (and yes, they did). And they don't look like a can from the outside 😂
@@dubreil07 BVG Class HK in Berlin (2001), Series 8000 in Madrid (2001) and Series 7/8 stock in London (2010) are just a few examples
Don’t worry they’ll climb to to top from the last car. And you can’t walk completely through the entire train due to the fact there is a conductor in the middle and he’s locked in.
As far as the emergency exit why not have 2 layers of doors? So, you open the first door, enter, walk several steps (giving the first door time to close), open the second door, and you're out. Even if someone sneaks through, they'd have to wait for someone to open the other door (all the while waiting/risk being caught).
I have seen that at banks, to limit the amount of people entering at one time.
What you're saying is that all the person following you would have to do is hold the previous door open, and now you're trapped between the doors.
At least with the open setup you can alert others and they can easily see what is happening.
So you'd have a bulky corridor thing right at the turnstiles that nobody is supposed to use outside of an emergency? That's not gonna work at almost any station.
You must think they REALLY want it to be safe....if they did, they could at least collect bail money to pay for it rather than the poor abused citizens who have to use it when thy let them all go home for free.
I love that hes so excited about this even tho this has been the norm in europe for decades
because those systems were built decades ago. this system was built a century ago. its easier when your starting with a fresh slate.
@bigblackron except that most European subway systems were built at the same time if not before the NYC subway, and before most other North American subway systems
@@philippemilne951 London is definitely older, but most European metros were built after WWII. Transit in the US is generally trash, but the NYC subway looks old bc it is old.
These narratives of euro-superiority just serve to hide an ugly fact; Governments in the US have intentionally underfunded transit for decades to undermine social equality.
Besides, compared to east Asian transit... well I dont even need to finish that sentence.
This is what Tucker meant when he touted Moscow's trains. It IS fixable. It IS possible to have a great system and we, as Americans, shouldn't have to settle for less.
I think fully open walk thru trains are the way to go. One police officer can guard the entire train it’s also better for reducing overcrowding as people can spread out along the whole train. End cars tend to be less busy than centre cars, but if it’s all open then people can spread out more. Not sure if I agree with the 15 second delay at emergency exits, because in a real emergency every second counts.
Hi Jon,
I really appreciate the open concept for the subway cars. So much safer in my opinion.
Have a great weekend,
Peter
No way, it's on London, and if anything happens, people's are scared t Ed to get involved 😮
0:57 The Toronto Subway has had open "accordion" train cars for many years. They're called the Toronto Rocket.
I like these new trains!
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well for american, its early 2000 tech for everywhere else
I love NYC, but it's crazy to see how behind you guys are in terms of subway infrastructure, and how used to it a lot of people seem to be, judging by those comments. Glad you guys are getting upgrades, the QoL improvements are noticeable.
Emergency exits could be triple doored, meaning that the person using them would have to exit through 3 doorways. by the time the person exiting was through the 3rd door, the 1st door would be closed.
For the new train, they could just add doors at the end of the car, so you open it, cross through, open the other one, and you’re in the next car.
And at 6:46 it is not what you are looking at, they are in the middle of the platform, not the side
For fair evasion with turnstiles, that would work fine and the gates, you could have a cameras in stations and in emergencies, they could open the gate. There could also be some sort of detector for fires and smoke to unlock the exit.
I actually rode the train recently. I was very impressed. It was very spacious inside. As far as the door for the inner portion, it has it's good and bad. You might have to see a lot of people, but I can actually not be locked in a car either without risking falling on tracks is good too. Very spacious on the inside, and you felt a sense of more relaxing on the ride. The cameras is a plus. The train line is a rough one, trust.
Toronto has had articulated trains for the past 10 years and the rest of the world has had them for over 20/30 years.
If there's a fire, the open doors between subway cars will let the whole thing become lit way faster. NYC apartments have heavy doors that close by themselves to stop fires from spreading. But the subway I guess wants flames throughout.
Looks similar with minor variations to Toronto's TTC subway cars that they got around 10 years ago...!
This new subway car reminds me of Montreal's new Azur subways cars. They're great.
I live in japan and nyc is still in the stone age. We had these features and much more about 15 yrs ago
In Europe we have these stuffs on metro cars for decades.
I randomly got on one last night! Is very impressed. We are so far behind other countries in nice subway trains. It's about time!
I love it. NYC keeps claiming that the crime is fine in the subway system. Yet they find it necessary to increase to improve them so they are safer. It is because that per 1000 passengers, there is more crime now in the NY Subway system than before the pandemic. So the problems remain.
Bad idea with this open pathway inside the train as a new yorker of 37 years the closed door ways protected you from the drama in the other car. Now they are making it easier for the erratic person to have free access to the whole train .
If there is a shooting the bullet can hit more ppl.
The thing with London they are more relax and law abiding than nyc. They just get in the train and go where they have to go. I only saw one bigger on the london underground and he was respectful and not erratic. They follow rules.
Now since gentrification and de balsio and the lax rules new comers are just doing what the hell they want I remember nyc in the late 90s and early 2000s and ppl were well behaved because of all the fines Giuliani and Bloomberg was giving out for literally everything lol
1:16 The C line is completely underground so there won’t be any concerns about subway surfers there.
Ikr
NYC finally adopting 1990s technology
Not quite. It's still using 1950s technology with traffic signals and PA systems.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town I was talking about the open gangways
Toronto has had the TR1 Toronto Rocket open gangway trains on lines 1 and 4 since at least 2010.