As someone who loads munitions on jets, I can confirm that the main issue with putting gun pods on every station isn't the recoil or weight, but having the wiring in order to operate all the stations. Especially with the A-10A since it is 100% analog with controls for munitions.
What if i gave you a spool of electrical wire, a fishtape, a couple cases of beer, all the cheeseburgers you can eat, one full weekend - and an Ironclad guarantee you will NOT be held responsable for destroying government property? Could you make it happen then? 😜
@@dennycrane2938 pretty sure those pods are electrically fired, but I'd imagine shaking the nuts out of the A10 with more than just the gau8 miiight not be too good for some avionics, plus the added recoil would be interesting on the flight characteristics.
Somewhere, an A-10 is being fitted with multiple SUU-23/As for an experimental run. It labours along the runway, eating up every inch of tarmac before taking off. It's sluggish and ungainly, even for a Hog, but it manages to make it to the target zone. The pilot lines up the shot and presses the trigger. The motors engage in each pod, then streams of twenty-millimeter fire pour out of the aircraft. The immense off-axis recoil immediately starts flipping the Hog A-over-T. Doing everything to hold steady proves worse than pointless, as the engines ingest the blast gases of all those cannons and flame out. Not a single shot lands on target. The control officer watches as the Warthog unceremoniously tumbles to earth. He says only two words. "Worth it." (Day 71: Take the Scimitar, the last Supermarine, out for a spin.)
i have an even worse idea ... you put the triple pod on EACH pods and you put the BRRT pods on each pods of the triple pods imagine an A10 with like ... 20 20mm CANONS ready to drill a freaking HOLE in the PLANET
There are pictures of an air national guard F4 with five SUU-16/A pods, and another with eleven SUU-11/A pods mounted three to a pylon. Short of the problem that other guy mentions of not having enough mechanisms to trigger that many guns individually, I gotta think an A-10 could carry at least as many as an F4
Back in the 80s while plowing a field two A10s where using my white farm tractor for dummy attack runs. I had mixed feelings, wow A10s cool, but what if they press wrong button.
@@blebcat In the UK the RAF used to use a chemical plant in Northern UK for dummy bomb runs. The plant asked them to stop because of some of the stuff they had on site, (They had a huge Chlorine tank on site, and they used Mustard Gas in the process of producing Viagra of all things, though they had to use that as they made it).
Each M61 on its own weighs up to 230 lbs, not including ammo. I think the issue would be the recoil. Recoil already is a limiting factor for the GAU-8.
6:23 Fun fact: The early MiG-27's gun has so much recoil that it noticeably damaged the airframe when fired for more than a couple of seconds. There were cases of instrument panels falling out, landing lights breaking, canopies being ejected, landing gear not working, all caused by the gun. To the point where they had to reduce the rate of fire.
If I recall correctly, gravity is only 9.8 n, which means the gun can be used to lift the damn plane off the ground, given that the weight doesn’t exceed 40kn.
@@thanawatkittimethee4618 9.8 meters per second squared, so you multiply the weight by 9.8. I don't think it could rocket propell itself upwards, but if you pointed it backwards is might fly
When that missile hit, it was almost exactly the amount of damage an A-10 in Kuwait that got hit by a SAM and made it back to base. The engine cover is at the air muesem by me.
The issue is those two pylons are the only ones wired to control the gun pods. On another note, the centerline pylon is for a fuel tank during ferry flights.
@@Commrade-DOGE you probably could but you'd also get an Article 15 at best or worse, a Courts Martial for unauthorized modifications to government property. I know this because I spent 20 years in the Air Force. It would end badly if it was jury rigged.
@@jeremyortiz2927 I mean during ww2 the stinger LMG was made by marines by Frankensteining together the bipod of a BAR, a browning that was meant to be mounted in a wing, a M1 grand for a grip, and some other stuff. It was so effective that they considered putting it into production. Tho it was the marines.
According to some internet digging they say the effective take off weigth an a10 can carry is 16k pounds worth of load, so yes if we take the 2k pound per gun pod it should be able to take off with 8 gun pods. Also it would be pretty effective at mimicing the russian cobra, after all all you had to do is fire all guns at once and the plane would just stop midair :D
Pylon stations 1,2 and 10,11 have 14inch Lug spacings and Mau-50 bomb racks so they can't just carry the same things compared to the rest of the stations.
It's quieter than Soviet 37mm a year ago. I remember being pissed because I couldn't tell where the yak-9 was or how far away. He was suicide strafing our airfield. I was in a wirbel lol
@@generalolivervonbismarck393 I'm just happy it can tank a missile hit or an impact that takes off part of the wing, elevator, or the engine honestly 😂
@@stuffjunk5019 well it can't. An A-10 could take some 23mm, never a direct missile hit. That's a story made up by the fighter mafia (yes they exist, Google them it's really interesting imo). All the A-10s you do see limping back to base completely shredded are one in a hundred. But in WT it should be pretty good considering the absurd amount of countermeasures
@@belox9246 Well obviously it isn't going to take a hit from a 200lb warhead from a medium/long SAM, but it has a long history of getting hit with manpads and making it home without issue. A stinger has about half the explosives as an AIM-9, and if you look at the manpad hits they barely damage the plane. I'm positive it can take a hit from a FOX-2 without issue.
When people get excited and talk about loadouts I get excited and think about how war thunder is going to handle radar detectability based on smaller loadouts like when the f-35 can't use wing mounted weapons when going stealth
@@darthkarl99 We can't even hear jets passing over you sometimes. So i guess they are getting everything ready for the F-117? Not a bug, it's a feature.
well, the recoil of vulcans if mounted on wing(especially wing tips) would possibly be problematic for flying, and the dead weight of these gunpods does not seems too cost-effective.
Yeah the parasitic drag along with the weight would be an issue.... And of course the recoil would likely cause you to stall since the main gun alone had the power to counter just one of the engines already.
2:00, heard stories of that gun having crazy recoil that if it had enough bullets, it can stall the plane out of the sky if continously fired, and having x of them would be pretty sick to watch simulation wise
You can only mount any given weapon or other external system to a station that is wired to the avionics that controls the weapon or system. For instance, if you carry AGMs, 1 additional station is required for the camera and tracking pod that guides the AGM to its target.
@@WDB69420 , uh… yes. I spent a career in aviation maintenance in the Marine Corps and I had a chance to spend some time around A10s at Nellis. I know whereof I speak.
@@CuttinEJ well at least in game you can carry 6 Mavericks without any targeting pods in the hardpoints so is that a bug or is the pod already built in the A10?
@@WDB69420 it’s probably just not properly implemented in the game. I don’t have access to see for myself. If you do, take a look at loadout without any external stores and then compare it to the loadout for AGMs. There should be a targeting and tracking pod. I don’t remember which station, but I think it’s 2nd or 3rd inboard on either wing.
Day 154: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
Practically no powered rotary cannon is supplied with sufficient ammunition for a full minute of firing, due to its weight (at 6,000 rpm, the projectiles alone would represent a mass of about 600 kg (1,300 lb) for one minute of firing; and by including the brass shell, filling and primer the weight is slightly double that at 1,225 kg (2,701 lb)) Wikipedia on the M61 Vulcan
Challenge Request: German little and large challenge. Take out the Fw200C-1 in Tank RB and get three ground kills. Or if that isn't entertaining enough, take out the Ju87D-5 with the 7.92mm Gun Pods and get three combined air/ground kills with guns only. Have fun. Attempt 470.
The gua8 puts out 3/4 of the total thrust of both engines. The 2 20mms combined are stronger. Weight wise it can carry a full load, however the recoil would be something like 7 times the thrust of the plane so would be impractical. But that Russian mig-23 gun still holds the highest thrust to weight ratio of any of the guns. If you used it jetpack joyride style it would give a 50g acceleration and you'd jump mount Everest.
From warthunder forum like 10 years ago.... "And here's the kg/s burst mass calculated: GAU-8 Avenger; 4200 RPM (70 RPS) 360 gram HEI projectile, 25.20 kg/s with HEI 425 gram API projectile, 29.75 kg/s with API"
hey phly, ive never really said this to anyone else before but thank you, your the person who keeps me alive and always cheers me up when things are the worst, like right now how my parents are fighting and i wish ending it all wouldnt hurt anyone. thanks for always being with me when i havnt been happy
Hey Phly, I know that things are crazy cause of the new update But maybe once things chill out and you need something to cover? You should check out the Italian C13 T90 It was the vehicle that got me my phirst nuke, and I’d like to see it and the ABUL/74 on the channel! The combo means in any terrain you can get to a sneaky spot, and scout phor tons of SP (Day 36) (But play the Hawk III first)
I just wanna thank you Phly, for making those videos, it eases me when im mentally unstable, also it helps me to be better at WT, I suck at scouting sometimes. Keep it up mate!
Day 22: Phly you should play the Strv M-42 DT. It has a 3.8 second autoloader with 5 shells, the turret traverse is great, and its surprisingly survivable Plus the APHE can pen pretty much anything from the front at its br (except for those damned jumbos)
Heya Phly, fourth video request, would you want to take out the Phantom II Echo with the triple m61’s to make a wall of 4 *unescapable, 52.68kg/s maelstrom of absolute hell and lead?* (Day 23)
since the additional guns are mounted underneath the center of mass of the plane, the recoil is going to pull the nose down and the guns off target if you overdo it. also increases the risk of unintentional dirt-eating.
Me who flies this A-10C II (More modernised version of A-10A) in DCS World confirm that it CAN takeoff with full loadout and full fuel tank (while flying like a log, but it's possible) The same with the A-10A which is basicly the same aircraft but with old tech from 1972 There're no additional 20mm guns to attach as a loadout implemented in DCS World, but I don't think they are heavier than 2000 lb bombs that you can attach on all pylons and fly still while having a full fuel tank. I'm starting to think that if you attach a small light tank on top it WILL STILL FLY! (L3 for ex.)
The Gatling that the A-10 is built upon is a 30mm cannon that fired depleted uranium HEAP rounds. The gatling pods were an answer to the Korean war plans that missiles would dominate the dogfight - not guns. Sooo, Russia gave the US some humble pie until the gun pods were made, shipped and mounted on the planes.
i have just gotten flung after crashing into a t34 as a panzer 4 and then this comes out right after i finish laughing my ass off, my mood is even better now
To answer the sound byte question, I wouldn’t mind new tank crew voices but I hope they never change the plane ones. “Hole in your left wing” and “on time on target everything’s fine how are you” are perfect
He could try to add more Avenger guns, but each avenger Gatling gun makes as many joules as one of the engines. That means with 8, it would be like driving forward, then going into reverse instantaneously at like 300 mph if he shot for one second
unfortunately The GAU-8 itself weighs 620 pounds (280 kg), but the complete weapon, with feed system and drum, weighs 4,029 pounds (1,828 kg) with a maximum ammunition load. which means just those 2 vulcans on the under side is 4tonnes add two more ant thats 8 tonnes inculding ammo that your two little jet engines haft to lug around i'd love to see a A10aTB with maximum brrrrt but it wouldnt even be able to take off
The main gun on the a10 has half the thrust(recoil) of the engines. So when firing the gun you literally dump half your momentum. With three guns you could fly backwards however, the more probable outcome is death.
The thing about 30mm ammo is not just the weight, but the amount of space needed to carry it. The built-in main gun, the GAU-8/A Avenger is nearly half as long as the aircraft itself. In fact, the A-10 aircraft was built AROUND the gun, and not a gun fitted to an aircraft. So, not sure how well multiple 20mm gun pods on each wing would work - in real life anyway. I have heard A-10 pilots say that the aircraft actually slows down, like putting on the brakes, when the 30mm gun is fired. If you fired all at once, you'd probably break the jet and see your wings fly by...or at least flip it over and fly backwards😆
No the A-10 GAU-8 fires faster than the Frogfoot. The Frogfoot fires 1,000 to 3,000 rpm while the A-10 fires at 3,900 rpm. The M61A1 20mm fires 6,600 rpm.
So Context - before considering the gun, or the drum holding them and the chain linking - the 2000 rounds per gun of 20mm x 102mm weigh approx 1200lb in ammo per gun
I would love to see phly making the occasional video just talking about military vehicles that he either really likes or dislikes because his rants are always gold. I’m talking like 5-10 minutes and sporadicly released as he finds stuff he is interested in just to get a quick dose of him being a wonderful entertainer.
This why the A-10 is my favorite plane, tanky and beeffy as fuck, insane main gun, can take so much damage but can make it back to base, such an amazing plane !
A-10 Armament as follows: Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger rotary cannon with 1,174 rounds Hardpoints: 11 (8× under-wing and 3× under-fuselage pylon stations) with a capacity of 16,000 lbs (7,260 kg),
The Vulcan puts just under 11 (10.845) lbs. a second on target at 3000 RPM. Healthy burst mass. LOL The GAU/8 DU round is 3700 grains. The GAU/8 puts about 35 lbs. a second on target. So two Vulcans and a GAU/8 can put just under 57 lbs. per second on target, or 35 seconds per TON (3420 lbs. per minute). Eight Vulcans, plus the GAU, gives us 121.76 pounds per second, or 59.34 kg. 7305 lbs./3320 kg per minute. The depleted uranium GAU bullets bring the burst mass to 69 lbs. per second, or 29 seconds per ton, with two Vulcans. Finally, eight Vulcans + one 30 mm Avenger (with depleted uranium ammo)= 155.76 lbs./70.8 kg per second. Or about 13 seconds per ton. Or 1,090,320 ft/lbs of energy per second, but that's a different discussion. LOL
Unfortunately a fully loaded m61 weighs about 1,616lbs each. And 10 of them would weigh 16,160lbs, but the a10 can only carry 7260kg of external weight which is 1,6005lbs. So it'll have to be 9 guns not 10
Phantom f4j navy experimented with 4 Gatling pods, air force had 1 phantom f4e with 2 Gatling pods, and 4 to rockeye bombs, used in active combat in Vietnam, as a fast air/ground support aircraft, Chico the gunfighter
the real plane can fly with half a wing, one engine, and half a tail. they don't have the damage model done right for the A10 there is a reason its called the flying tank.
I did the maths and an M61 Vulcan would 1200 Rounds would weigh roughly around 768 lb, but that's obviously not taking into account that the gun is mounted in a housing. So you would still have to add some weight to that. I'm not sure if I'm correct with my math so correct me if I'm wrong.
I wonder how many Gatling guns firing simultaneously it would take to stop an A10 flying because of the recoil? PS More guns on a A10? Could allies survive the carnage? Cool though the A10 is the Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne is what I'd really like to see in War Thunder as an 'alternate' A10.
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As someone who loads munitions on jets, I can confirm that the main issue with putting gun pods on every station isn't the recoil or weight, but having the wiring in order to operate all the stations. Especially with the A-10A since it is 100% analog with controls for munitions.
What if i gave you a spool of electrical wire, a fishtape, a couple cases of beer, all the cheeseburgers you can eat, one full weekend - and an Ironclad guarantee you will NOT be held responsable for destroying government property?
Could you make it happen then? 😜
@@stinkyfungus buddy I’m a civilian and you’ve got yourself a deal
Wiring for certain, but recoil and weight are also for certain. And well... Hydraulics
@@dennycrane2938 pretty sure those pods are electrically fired, but I'd imagine shaking the nuts out of the A10 with more than just the gau8 miiight not be too good for some avionics, plus the added recoil would be interesting on the flight characteristics.
Hence the fact that the F 35 can load up so much, right ?
Yea it could probably take off with 8 gun pods but if you ever shot them all it would probably fly backwards
Perfect for Top Down attacks. Use the Guns as Airbrakes.
It would probably rip the wings before it does that
@@einehrenmann6156 and for hover
The gau8 alone has enough thrust to fly backwards. Although with inertia that's impossible
Or u could hover over the target lol
I think the question here isn't "can the a10 carry ten more guns?", it's "could the a10 airframe SURVIVE 11 guns firing at once?"...
FOR SCIENCE!
Hmmm 🤔
Another fellow Imperial i see!
12. There are 11 underwing hardpoints not including the GAU 8.
well let's see if the engine feels when they are the one being propelled instead of propelling
Somewhere, an A-10 is being fitted with multiple SUU-23/As for an experimental run. It labours along the runway, eating up every inch of tarmac before taking off. It's sluggish and ungainly, even for a Hog, but it manages to make it to the target zone.
The pilot lines up the shot and presses the trigger. The motors engage in each pod, then streams of twenty-millimeter fire pour out of the aircraft.
The immense off-axis recoil immediately starts flipping the Hog A-over-T. Doing everything to hold steady proves worse than pointless, as the engines ingest the blast gases of all those cannons and flame out. Not a single shot lands on target.
The control officer watches as the Warthog unceremoniously tumbles to earth. He says only two words.
"Worth it."
(Day 71: Take the Scimitar, the last Supermarine, out for a spin.)
i have an even worse idea ... you put the triple pod on EACH pods and you put the BRRT pods on each pods of the triple pods imagine an A10 with like ... 20 20mm CANONS ready to drill a freaking HOLE in the PLANET
The A-10 returns to service the next day after they buff out a few dings.
The A-10 has auto restarters in the engines to relight them after firing the main gun, it should work for the gun pods too.
@@Talendale Except the planet broke before the A-10 did
There are pictures of an air national guard F4 with five SUU-16/A pods, and another with eleven SUU-11/A pods mounted three to a pylon. Short of the problem that other guy mentions of not having enough mechanisms to trigger that many guns individually, I gotta think an A-10 could carry at least as many as an F4
"I missed because he's an ally"
Excuse me, but the A-10 has a long, proud history of blue on blue, especially when we're talking about Brits
Back in the 80s while plowing a field two A10s where using my white farm tractor for dummy attack runs. I had mixed feelings, wow A10s cool, but what if they press wrong button.
@@robertwallis261 That's so funny. I had no idea they'd do such a thing.
@@blebcat In the UK the RAF used to use a chemical plant in Northern UK for dummy bomb runs. The plant asked them to stop because of some of the stuff they had on site, (They had a huge Chlorine tank on site, and they used Mustard Gas in the process of producing Viagra of all things, though they had to use that as they made it).
"long proud history"...the 1 ff incident? That's way out of proportion. ANY ff is tragic but to say a long proud history...no. That's just wrong.
@@Erik-ow8lq
The A-10 has no targeting pods, so the only way to verify a bogey as a friendly is fucking BINOCULARS
Each M61 on its own weighs up to 230 lbs, not including ammo. I think the issue would be the recoil. Recoil already is a limiting factor for the GAU-8.
It's an airbreak :3
Fire all 11 cannons at once to go in reverse
@@lastwymsi fly backwards and go full ace combat
do you mean 230 kg? 230lbs seems pretty lightweight
The gau 8 actually puts out more thrust than its engines!
6:23 Fun fact: The early MiG-27's gun has so much recoil that it noticeably damaged the airframe when fired for more than a couple of seconds. There were cases of instrument panels falling out, landing lights breaking, canopies being ejected, landing gear not working, all caused by the gun. To the point where they had to reduce the rate of fire.
Cool
Wow 😮
That would be scary irl to see a A-10 with 3 guns the size of cars
thats fucking true
the GAU-8 Is side of a Fiat 600
@@lego4705 an r3 could use the gau 8 as an engine
@@charleswolf1812 noone asked you clown
especialy if you are in British armour
The real recoil power of the a-10 gun is 40kn or equivalent to the thrust of one of the engines
To american units that is (I believe) 5 tons of thrust
If I recall correctly, gravity is only 9.8 n, which means the gun can be used to lift the damn plane off the ground, given that the weight doesn’t exceed 40kn.
@@thanawatkittimethee4618 40kn= 4 tonnes
@@thanawatkittimethee4618 9.8 meters per second squared, so you multiply the weight by 9.8. I don't think it could rocket propell itself upwards, but if you pointed it backwards is might fly
damn boi
two engine is needed
wait what if you strap 8 guns and 16 engines to it and make it fly
When that missile hit, it was almost exactly the amount of damage an A-10 in Kuwait that got hit by a SAM and made it back to base. The engine cover is at the air muesem by me.
The issue is those two pylons are the only ones wired to control the gun pods. On another note, the centerline pylon is for a fuel tank during ferry flights.
As a dude stated in another comment. You could probably jury-rig some wiring
@@Commrade-DOGE you probably could but you'd also get an Article 15 at best or worse, a Courts Martial for unauthorized modifications to government property. I know this because I spent 20 years in the Air Force. It would end badly if it was jury rigged.
@@jeremyortiz2927 could you get away with stating it’s for your 1st amendment, as multiple Guns= more brrrrt which means more fear
@@jeremyortiz2927 I mean during ww2 the stinger LMG was made by marines by Frankensteining together the bipod of a BAR, a browning that was meant to be mounted in a wing, a M1 grand for a grip, and some other stuff. It was so effective that they considered putting it into production.
Tho it was the marines.
A custom battle definitely needs to happen with A-10s with their wings full of vulcans. Full tracer belt only
FIRE THE LAZER!!!!!
According to some internet digging they say the effective take off weigth an a10 can carry is 16k pounds worth of load, so yes if we take the 2k pound per gun pod it should be able to take off with 8 gun pods. Also it would be pretty effective at mimicing the russian cobra, after all all you had to do is fire all guns at once and the plane would just stop midair :D
Pylon stations 1,2 and 10,11 have 14inch Lug spacings and Mau-50 bomb racks so they can't just carry the same things compared to the rest of the stations.
Air men with to much time on their hands: I need a blow torch and some peanut butter!
11:13 Exactly what the A-10 was designed to be able to do.
Phly: "This Is A Scientific Channel"
Also Phly: *Plays War Thunder*
I feel like the A-10's gun should definitely be louder.
It's quieter than Soviet 37mm a year ago.
I remember being pissed because I couldn't tell where the yak-9 was or how far away. He was suicide strafing our airfield. I was in a wirbel lol
11:19 nice of him to repair your engine
I remember I could load the A10 up with gun pods in the game H.A.W.X. That was ridiculous. It was just a literal sky mop.
Damn i miss that game, had it on ps3 as a kid, just found the disk too
"It doesn't really wanna fly, but it still takes off"
That's really the A-10 in a nutshell.
I feel like the A-10 is the first tough plane that they've actually modeled most of its toughness into the game.
It lacks it’s redundant controls though. When one control system is damaged the other two also somehow die as well
@@generalolivervonbismarck393 I'm just happy it can tank a missile hit or an impact that takes off part of the wing, elevator, or the engine honestly 😂
@@stuffjunk5019 well it can't. An A-10 could take some 23mm, never a direct missile hit. That's a story made up by the fighter mafia (yes they exist, Google them it's really interesting imo). All the A-10s you do see limping back to base completely shredded are one in a hundred. But in WT it should be pretty good considering the absurd amount of countermeasures
@@belox9246 part of it is the fact that missiles themselves and plane reactions to them in general are still wack lol.
@@belox9246 Well obviously it isn't going to take a hit from a 200lb warhead from a medium/long SAM, but it has a long history of getting hit with manpads and making it home without issue. A stinger has about half the explosives as an AIM-9, and if you look at the manpad hits they barely damage the plane. I'm positive it can take a hit from a FOX-2 without issue.
When people get excited and talk about loadouts I get excited and think about how war thunder is going to handle radar detectability based on smaller loadouts like when the f-35 can't use wing mounted weapons when going stealth
You think a game that can't even model IR tracking on SPAA properly, (to name one relevant example), is going to do stealth even vaguely accurately?
@@darthkarl99 We can't even hear jets passing over you sometimes. So i guess they are getting everything ready for the F-117?
Not a bug, it's a feature.
well, the recoil of vulcans if mounted on wing(especially wing tips) would possibly be problematic for flying, and the dead weight of these gunpods does not seems too cost-effective.
Yeah the parasitic drag along with the weight would be an issue.... And of course the recoil would likely cause you to stall since the main gun alone had the power to counter just one of the engines already.
Also torque. The main gun (and the engines) are angled towards the center of the A-10 to minimize torque. The gunpods aren't.
@@SilvaDreams not really. Guns are of course only used when pointed down, and the recoil force from the gun will not affect it in any important way.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 that’s untrue, look it up
@@daddythebandit1208 what part is untrue
"sir the new tanks have to much armor!"
"Put two 20 mils on the bottom"
Always good when Phly uploads
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It is just an A-10, but with more BBRRRRRTTTTT.
20:54 "2 hour A-10 video incoming"
We all heard it Phly!
A-10 be like: B-17 ain’t got nothing on me.
Jokes aside the hardpoints and the load an A-10 can carry is apart of the reason it’s still in service. Though it does admittedly have problems.
2:00, heard stories of that gun having crazy recoil that if it had enough bullets, it can stall the plane out of the sky if continously fired, and having x of them would be pretty sick to watch simulation wise
This takes the sentence "if gun not enough then use more gun" To a whole new level
"And if that don't work. Use more gun."
You can only mount any given weapon or other external system to a station that is wired to the avionics that controls the weapon or system. For instance, if you carry AGMs, 1 additional station is required for the camera and tracking pod that guides the AGM to its target.
Uh no?
@@WDB69420 , uh… yes. I spent a career in aviation maintenance in the Marine Corps and I had a chance to spend some time around A10s at Nellis. I know whereof I speak.
@@CuttinEJ well at least in game you can carry 6 Mavericks without any targeting pods in the hardpoints so is that a bug or is the pod already built in the A10?
@@WDB69420 The targeting pod makes it much easier to aim, all in all its a choice since mavericks already got their cameras
@@WDB69420 it’s probably just not properly implemented in the game. I don’t have access to see for myself. If you do, take a look at loadout without any external stores and then compare it to the loadout for AGMs. There should be a targeting and tracking pod. I don’t remember which station, but I think it’s 2nd or 3rd inboard on either wing.
Them:how much fire power do you want to have
Me:yes
Day 154: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
One day..one day
Practically no powered rotary cannon is supplied with sufficient ammunition for a full minute of firing, due to its weight (at 6,000 rpm, the projectiles alone would represent a mass of about 600 kg (1,300 lb) for one minute of firing; and by including the brass shell, filling and primer the weight is slightly double that at 1,225 kg (2,701 lb)) Wikipedia on the M61 Vulcan
Some random meatball: "Swedish JA37 has reverse thrust!"
Me, an intellectual: "So does the A-10."
**fires the GAU-8 and ten additional M-61s**
It's well established that A-10s can dog fight F-16s.
Challenge Request:
German little and large challenge. Take out the Fw200C-1 in Tank RB and get three ground kills. Or if that isn't entertaining enough, take out the Ju87D-5 with the 7.92mm Gun Pods and get three combined air/ground kills with guns only. Have fun. Attempt 470.
The gua8 puts out 3/4 of the total thrust of both engines. The 2 20mms combined are stronger. Weight wise it can carry a full load, however the recoil would be something like 7 times the thrust of the plane so would be impractical.
But that Russian mig-23 gun still holds the highest thrust to weight ratio of any of the guns. If you used it jetpack joyride style it would give a 50g acceleration and you'd jump mount Everest.
Day 106 : Phly out the Arsenal VG33 and Dewoitine 520 to show em the strenght of the wine powered Hispano Suiza V12 👀🇨🇵❤
From warthunder forum like 10 years ago....
"And here's the kg/s burst mass calculated:
GAU-8 Avenger; 4200 RPM (70 RPS)
360 gram HEI projectile, 25.20 kg/s with HEI
425 gram API projectile, 29.75 kg/s with API"
bro how do you have 5 million GE
How much guns do you wa-
America:YES
hey phly, ive never really said this to anyone else before but thank you, your the person who keeps me alive and always cheers me up when things are the worst, like right now how my parents are fighting and i wish ending it all wouldnt hurt anyone. thanks for always being with me when i havnt been happy
5:01 You can see that the mass of the two cannons adds 1300kg or 2866 lbs for 2. So if it can handle the bombs it can handle the cannons.
Hey Phly, I know that things are crazy cause of the new update
But maybe once things chill out and you need something to cover?
You should check out the Italian C13 T90
It was the vehicle that got me my phirst nuke, and I’d like to see it and the ABUL/74 on the channel!
The combo means in any terrain you can get to a sneaky spot, and scout phor tons of SP
(Day 36)
(But play the Hawk III first)
I was playing with Praetorii yesterday. He was in a T-2 I was in an F-4E and we were flying really close and getting some beautiful screenshots.
How do u have 5.000.000 goldcoins?????
I just wanna thank you Phly, for making those videos, it eases me when im mentally unstable, also it helps me to be better at WT, I suck at scouting sometimes. Keep it up mate!
Day 22: Phly you should play the Strv M-42 DT. It has a 3.8 second autoloader with 5 shells, the turret traverse is great, and its surprisingly survivable
Plus the APHE can pen pretty much anything from the front at its br (except for those damned jumbos)
Heya Phly, fourth video request, would you want to take out the Phantom II Echo with the triple m61’s to make a wall of 4 *unescapable, 52.68kg/s maelstrom of absolute hell and lead?* (Day 23)
The system weighs 1,168 lb (530 kg) loaded, 595 lb (270 kg) empty
since the additional guns are mounted underneath the center of mass of the plane, the recoil is going to pull the nose down and the guns off target if you overdo it. also increases the risk of unintentional dirt-eating.
Me who flies this A-10C II (More modernised version of A-10A) in DCS World confirm that it CAN takeoff with full loadout and full fuel tank (while flying like a log, but it's possible)
The same with the A-10A which is basicly the same aircraft but with old tech from 1972
There're no additional 20mm guns to attach as a loadout implemented in DCS World, but I don't think they are heavier than 2000 lb bombs that you can attach on all pylons and fly still while having a full fuel tank.
I'm starting to think that if you attach a small light tank on top it WILL STILL FLY! (L3 for ex.)
A-10 Warthog gun does 4k rounds a min so if you have 10 of them... 40k rounds a min. THAT's A LOTTA AMMUNITION!
You should try that if War Thunder allows!
The Gatling that the A-10 is built upon is a 30mm cannon that fired depleted uranium HEAP rounds. The gatling pods were an answer to the Korean war plans that missiles would dominate the dogfight - not guns. Sooo, Russia gave the US some humble pie until the gun pods were made, shipped and mounted on the planes.
Bro ,he got more Golden Eagles that Silver Lions ☠
A wise engineer once said: '' When gun don't work, use more gun. ''
i have just gotten flung after crashing into a t34 as a panzer 4 and then this comes out right after i finish laughing my ass off, my mood is even better now
To answer the sound byte question, I wouldn’t mind new tank crew voices but I hope they never change the plane ones. “Hole in your left wing” and “on time on target everything’s fine how are you” are perfect
BRO that spiral dodge @ 11.03 was wicked!!!!!
The pig that flies the A-10 warthog
The tf2 engineer would be proud.
“Use more gun.”
-Yeeeeeee
These engines were also on the S-3 Viking. Civilian version is the CF34 found on many business and commercial jets.
Bro got 50k worth of game credits
The avenger alone when firing reduces the speed by half. Firing three guns at once would probably stall the plane.
"We know you like rotary cannons so we added two more guns to your flying gun."
- Xzibit,
Year 2000 and something
To be fair the A10 is a tank but 10 Vulcans on the wings would snap it in half with a second of full fire rate
He could try to add more Avenger guns, but each avenger Gatling gun makes as many joules as one of the engines. That means with 8, it would be like driving forward, then going into reverse instantaneously at like 300 mph if he shot for one second
bro has 5 MILLION golden eagles or what ever they're called
Gameplay starts at 7:30
unfortunately The GAU-8 itself weighs 620 pounds (280 kg), but the complete weapon, with feed system and drum, weighs 4,029 pounds (1,828 kg) with a maximum ammunition load.
which means
just those 2 vulcans on the under side is 4tonnes add two more ant thats 8 tonnes inculding ammo that your two little jet engines haft to lug around i'd love to see a A10aTB with maximum brrrrt but it wouldnt even be able to take off
The main gun on the a10 has half the thrust(recoil) of the engines. So when firing the gun you literally dump half your momentum. With three guns you could fly backwards however, the more probable outcome is death.
a gau 8 has as much recoil as 1 turbine has thrust. with 3 gaitlins you fly backwards
i cant believe everyone is just letting gaijin get away with making the a10 brrt sound like a puppys fart
The thing about 30mm ammo is not just the weight, but the amount of space needed to carry it. The built-in main gun, the GAU-8/A Avenger is nearly half as long as the aircraft itself. In fact, the A-10 aircraft was built AROUND the gun, and not a gun fitted to an aircraft. So, not sure how well multiple 20mm gun pods on each wing would work - in real life anyway. I have heard A-10 pilots say that the aircraft actually slows down, like putting on the brakes, when the 30mm gun is fired. If you fired all at once, you'd probably break the jet and see your wings fly by...or at least flip it over and fly backwards😆
I see Gajin is Having fun
No the A-10 GAU-8 fires faster than the Frogfoot. The Frogfoot fires 1,000 to 3,000 rpm while the A-10 fires at 3,900 rpm. The M61A1 20mm fires 6,600 rpm.
So Context - before considering the gun, or the drum holding them and the chain linking - the 2000 rounds per gun of 20mm x 102mm weigh approx 1200lb in ammo per gun
18:00 this reminds me of a certain incident that happened between an a-10 and some british armor
I would love to see phly making the occasional video just talking about military vehicles that he either really likes or dislikes because his rants are always gold. I’m talking like 5-10 minutes and sporadicly released as he finds stuff he is interested in just to get a quick dose of him being a wonderful entertainer.
The A-10 is actually not an aircraft with a gun attached to it. It's a gun with an aircraft attached to it.
THE BERRRRRRRT THO THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
This why the A-10 is my favorite plane, tanky and beeffy as fuck, insane main gun, can take so much damage but can make it back to base, such an amazing plane !
A-10 Armament as follows:
Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger rotary cannon with 1,174 rounds
Hardpoints: 11 (8× under-wing and 3× under-fuselage pylon stations) with a capacity of 16,000 lbs (7,260 kg),
I'm sure I own every A-10 book every made since 1978' and Never have I seen a Vulcan Pod on an A-10 !!!!
I'd love to see the late version of this plane (since that's the one I'll have in the game)
The Vulcan puts just under 11 (10.845) lbs. a second on target at 3000 RPM. Healthy burst mass. LOL The GAU/8 DU round is 3700 grains. The GAU/8 puts about 35 lbs. a second on target. So two Vulcans and a GAU/8 can put just under 57 lbs. per second on target, or 35 seconds per TON (3420 lbs. per minute). Eight Vulcans, plus the GAU, gives us 121.76 pounds per second, or 59.34 kg. 7305 lbs./3320 kg per minute. The depleted uranium GAU bullets bring the burst mass to 69 lbs. per second, or 29 seconds per ton, with two Vulcans. Finally, eight Vulcans + one 30 mm Avenger (with depleted uranium ammo)= 155.76 lbs./70.8 kg per second. Or about 13 seconds per ton. Or 1,090,320 ft/lbs of energy per second, but that's a different discussion. LOL
Attempt 275:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 37MM/23MM Vodka launcher Jet.
Nobody is gonna talk about the 5 million golden eagles and he has every single plane etc..
Oh, that's me in the Bagel, and the PUMA.
Neat. Didn't know I was shooting you.
But tbf. I was just shooting back at the people shooting me.
Unfortunately a fully loaded m61 weighs about 1,616lbs each. And 10 of them would weigh 16,160lbs, but the a10 can only carry 7260kg of external weight which is 1,6005lbs. So it'll have to be 9 guns not 10
Honestly, this is the longest the Dev server has ever been open
A Marine F-4 unit in Vietnam flew ground support missions with 3 20mm gun pods when the normal was one. So historically it is possible.
Phantom f4j navy experimented with 4 Gatling pods, air force had 1 phantom f4e with 2 Gatling pods, and 4 to rockeye bombs, used in active combat in Vietnam, as a fast air/ground support aircraft, Chico the gunfighter
0:40 Bill Phly The science Guy
the real plane can fly with half a wing, one engine, and half a tail. they don't have the damage model done right for the A10 there is a reason its called the flying tank.
I did the maths and an M61 Vulcan would 1200 Rounds would weigh roughly around 768 lb, but that's obviously not taking into account that the gun is mounted in a housing. So you would still have to add some weight to that. I'm not sure if I'm correct with my math so correct me if I'm wrong.
@phlydaliy2 and you've been sublistend on my report list
I wonder how many Gatling guns firing simultaneously it would take to stop an A10 flying because of the recoil?
PS More guns on a A10? Could allies survive the carnage?
Cool though the A10 is the Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne is what I'd really like to see in War Thunder as an 'alternate' A10.