2:00 the plug has 2 different ground connectors instead of a ground pin. One is the french style female connector that connects on a ground pin in the outlet and the other is the german style dual indents on the top and bottom which connect to spring clips. Because in Europe we love standards so much we can't get enough of them :) I think the 16A 250V rating is meant to refer to the plug standard, rather than the wire.
I know about the grounds, I lived in Germany for a while. The plugs are not convenient, but they are smart and safe. Unfortunately my adapters require a 3rd pin. You know, I think you are right about the male plug being good for 16 amps, but the wire certainly is not! Strange there are no standards for the thing as a whole unit.
An IEC connector is always rated for 10A regardless of the size of the cable. Simply it's because an IEC connector will be manufactured and stamped at 10A because that's what the connector alone is rated for. A shucko connector which is the one you said is for 16A is correct. But again it's because it's manufactured and stamped at 16A. 0.75mm cable is not at all rated for 16A whereas the correct size cable for such a load is 2.5mm. I get it's confusing but no one is lying or trying to deceive anyone.
@cobybarrett3799 I have a Corsair CX 750 80+ Bronze SMPS with 16a 250V power cord but here in India we don't have any UPS with 16a power output sockets So can I use 6a 240V power cord with my SMPS ? My system specifications CPU I7 12700K Ram 16 GB DDR5 Board Gigabyte B760M SSD nvme WD blue 500gb GPU RTX 4070 Super Total power draw is roughly 600w
So I did some empirical research on Amazon (US & DE) for fun. All being 3 conductor cables: .75mm²-18awg is sold as 10 amps. 1.5mm² -16awg is sold as 13 amps. 2.5mm² - 14awg is sold as 15 amps. The original cord's type F plug is rated at 16 amps as they all are (to my knowledge), but clearly the .75 classifies the cable at 10 amps. So yep, something to be aware of. Good catch on your part! I did see a couple cords on the DE site saying "maximum 250 V 16 A, 3G x 0.75 mm²" so...buyer beware.
Thank you for the research. Interesting findings. It helps clarify what's going on. Strange that the ends and the cable are rated separately rather than as part of an assembly. You'd think somebody would have caught this, or sued someone, or done something to bring this to manufacturers' attention.
Yes , there is much confliction in the specifications. Good video to make people aware of what to look for. I suspect the strength of the connector pins within the plugs will also determine the maximum current ( via the tightness / contact area of the plug pins to the the wall socket connectors ) . But here was my 1st line of thought - Oscilloscopes require very low current. Even at 110VAC which uses higher currents than those using 220VAC , one is looking at below 1/2 an amp. Just for my reference, I took three random 2 Channel Analog Oscilloscopes ( Digital versions use even less current ) and compiled their specifications. With them set for 110V AC , they less than 0.44 Amps . I quess knowing this would save a lot of confusion . Had the appliance been a heavier consumer of current , one would have to dig around to find a better factual path in order to make a safe/informed decision 🙂. Thanks
I do wish the USA would switch to 240V like the rest of the world And the metrics for length, height and weight and distance. It would make things so much easier for us all
The fewer transformers required makes distribution lower cost, but you lose the isolation (motors, etc.) and you're more likely to get spiked. But I've done both and I'd give 220 a 20% benefit. ;)
"Is it possible to operate a 100_240v computer screen with a 16A 250v power cord, or is it dangerous?" It depends on the amperage of the computer screen. If the screen is less than the amp rating of the cord, it should be OK. If your screen is less than 16A, it should be OK.
It's almost as if the British system of having a fuse in the plug, rated to the capacity of the cable is a good idea. C15 connectors look like C13s with a notch and are used in "hot conditions", that is items that get hot in use like kettles, not for use in warm climates. The corresponding socket has a ridge that prevents C13s being inserted.
I think the disconnect (no pun intended) is coming from the fact that there are markings on the individual connectors and the wire, and none for the resultant rating of the entire cable assembly. IEC 60320 specifies the C13 connector (10A@250V or 15A@125V), NEC specifies the Edison plug, some German spec (or Euro spec?) defines the first connector, and so on. The entire assembly will be rated based on the minimum of the components, but it may or may not be actually labeled (depending on the prevailing codes in the sales jurisdiction, I suppose?) Anyway point is you should choose based on the wire size, since the connectors are already over-spec’ed for the application (otherwise they’d be the next size up). I can’t imagine a scope drawing 10A but maybe I’m out of touch on what modern scopes are like 😋
That makes sense. Seems odd there would not be a safety spec on the assembly, but I guess they have to wait until there's enough fires for the insurance companies to put pressure on them! I calculated from the listed watts what it consumes up to 6 amps (seems like a lot), so yeah, a 10 amp capable cable would work.
I have hundreds of these cord sets. The rating issue aside, I would like to know how to determine if the conductors are actually copper and not some aluminum wire covered in some copper cladding? Hard to imagine an oscilloscope depending much current? An old tube set perhaps on in rush >>>
Good question on the wire quality. The scope does not actually say how many amps, but lists the watts. Quick math says it consumes up to 6 amps (which seems like a lot). I used to have an old HP 1722a which was a real beast; weighed a ton and ate power.
I was wondering the same thing, with the price of copper so high. Solid copper would weigh more, but I doubt enough more to tell given the amount of insulation. Maybe the cable manufacturer publishes their spec? Up for some “open conductor” surgery with wire cutters?
guys i have a japanese region ps5 which writien in the power cable 125V 7a is it good to use in a country that the power voltage in it is 220 ? by the way the power supply i dual voltage it can handle 100-127 220-240 so iam only confused about the power cable . sorry for bad english
The 0.75mm2 cords and 0.82mm2 cord are actually all 18AWG. It’s just different methods of measurement. 18AWG wire is generally rated for 10A. The 1.5mm2 cord has 16AWG wire, which is actually rated for 13A, and the 2.5mm2 is 14AWG, which is rated for 15A. Note that these current ratings are based on shorter cord lengths (50 feet or less). The reason the 16AWG cord says 10A on it is because the C13 connector IEC standard only rates the connector for 10A, although they can technically carry as much as 15A, and UL will rate them for 15A. Not sure why the European cord says 16A on it, as that exceeds the ratings of both the C13 connector and the 18AWG wire. Maybe the standards are different in Europe.
Also check the actual wiring! I found a cheap 3-prong cable that had the live and neutral reversed from what they should be. Could be very dangerous depending on what the equipment assumes about the neutral!
@menaz7880 16Amps mean the maximum rate of current that can flow through the wire can withstand 16Amps. If you ran the oscilloscope using the 10A power cable and the device demands 16Amps (or anything greater than 10amps) then the 10amps cable would likely overheat, melt and cause an electrical fire since more current is passing through it than it is rated for. Electric Devices normally will only pull the amount of current needed to operate it. Having higher rated cables are always safer. Matching amperage and voltage ratings when purchasing a replacement cable should always be considered for all electronics, especially high-power electronics or appliances.
I have a Corsair CX 750 80+ Bronze SMPS with 16a 250V power cord but here in India we don't have any UPS with 16a power output sockets So can I use 6a 240V power cord with my SMPS ? My system specifications CPU I7 12700K Ram 16 GB DDR5 Board Gigabyte B760M SSD nvme WD blue 500gb GPU RTX 4070 Super Total power draw is roughly 600w
It would not be safe to make recommendations on a device without seeing it and measuring the input requirement. You would be better off taking to a local shop who would be familiar with your requirements and regulations.
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2:00 the plug has 2 different ground connectors instead of a ground pin. One is the french style female connector that connects on a ground pin in the outlet and the other is the german style dual indents on the top and bottom which connect to spring clips. Because in Europe we love standards so much we can't get enough of them :)
I think the 16A 250V rating is meant to refer to the plug standard, rather than the wire.
I know about the grounds, I lived in Germany for a while. The plugs are not convenient, but they are smart and safe. Unfortunately my adapters require a 3rd pin. You know, I think you are right about the male plug being good for 16 amps, but the wire certainly is not! Strange there are no standards for the thing as a whole unit.
This is correct it's the plug standard rating there's a current rating on the cable sheath
An IEC connector is always rated for 10A regardless of the size of the cable. Simply it's because an IEC connector will be manufactured and stamped at 10A because that's what the connector alone is rated for. A shucko connector which is the one you said is for 16A is correct. But again it's because it's manufactured and stamped at 16A. 0.75mm cable is not at all rated for 16A whereas the correct size cable for such a load is 2.5mm. I get it's confusing but no one is lying or trying to deceive anyone.
@cobybarrett3799 I have a Corsair CX 750 80+ Bronze SMPS with 16a 250V power cord but here in India we don't have any UPS with 16a power output sockets So can I use 6a 240V power cord with my SMPS ?
My system specifications
CPU I7 12700K
Ram 16 GB DDR5
Board Gigabyte B760M
SSD nvme WD blue 500gb
GPU RTX 4070 Super
Total power draw is roughly 600w
So I did some empirical research on Amazon (US & DE) for fun. All being 3 conductor cables: .75mm²-18awg is sold as 10 amps. 1.5mm² -16awg is sold as 13 amps. 2.5mm² - 14awg is sold as 15 amps. The original cord's type F plug is rated at 16 amps as they all are (to my knowledge), but clearly the .75 classifies the cable at 10 amps. So yep, something to be aware of. Good catch on your part! I did see a couple cords on the DE site saying "maximum 250 V 16 A, 3G x 0.75 mm²" so...buyer beware.
Thank you for the research. Interesting findings. It helps clarify what's going on. Strange that the ends and the cable are rated separately rather than as part of an assembly. You'd think somebody would have caught this, or sued someone, or done something to bring this to manufacturers' attention.
Yes , there is much confliction in the specifications. Good video to make people aware of what to look for. I suspect the strength of the connector pins within the plugs will also determine the maximum current ( via the tightness / contact area of the plug pins to the the wall socket connectors ) . But here was my 1st line of thought - Oscilloscopes require very low current. Even at 110VAC which uses higher currents than those using 220VAC , one is looking at below 1/2 an amp. Just for my reference, I took three random 2 Channel Analog Oscilloscopes ( Digital versions use even less current ) and compiled their specifications. With them set for 110V AC , they less than 0.44 Amps . I quess knowing this would save a lot of confusion . Had the appliance been a heavier consumer of current , one would have to dig around to find a better factual path in order to make a safe/informed decision 🙂. Thanks
Thanks for the info.
I do wish the USA would switch to 240V like the rest of the world
And the metrics for length, height and weight and distance.
It would make things so much easier for us all
The fewer transformers required makes distribution lower cost, but you lose the isolation (motors, etc.) and you're more likely to get spiked. But I've done both and I'd give 220 a 20% benefit. ;)
that is correct and I wish them the best. However, this is apart of the metrics system.. Or length.. this has nothing to do with that.
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"Is it possible to operate a 100_240v computer screen with a 16A 250v power cord, or is it dangerous?"
It depends on the amperage of the computer screen. If the screen is less than the amp rating of the cord, it should be OK. If your screen is less than 16A, it should be OK.
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Power Rating : 100-240V - 50 / 60Hz 1.5A
It's almost as if the British system of having a fuse in the plug, rated to the capacity of the cable is a good idea.
C15 connectors look like C13s with a notch and are used in "hot conditions", that is items that get hot in use like kettles, not for use in warm climates. The corresponding socket has a ridge that prevents C13s being inserted.
Had to look up C 15, they are a big improvement.
I think the disconnect (no pun intended) is coming from the fact that there are markings on the individual connectors and the wire, and none for the resultant rating of the entire cable assembly. IEC 60320 specifies the C13 connector (10A@250V or 15A@125V), NEC specifies the Edison plug, some German spec (or Euro spec?) defines the first connector, and so on. The entire assembly will be rated based on the minimum of the components, but it may or may not be actually labeled (depending on the prevailing codes in the sales jurisdiction, I suppose?)
Anyway point is you should choose based on the wire size, since the connectors are already over-spec’ed for the application (otherwise they’d be the next size up). I can’t imagine a scope drawing 10A but maybe I’m out of touch on what modern scopes are like 😋
That makes sense. Seems odd there would not be a safety spec on the assembly, but I guess they have to wait until there's enough fires for the insurance companies to put pressure on them! I calculated from the listed watts what it consumes up to 6 amps (seems like a lot), so yeah, a 10 amp capable cable would work.
I have hundreds of these cord sets. The rating issue aside, I would like to know how to determine if the conductors are actually copper and not some aluminum wire covered in some copper cladding?
Hard to imagine an oscilloscope depending much current? An old tube set perhaps on in rush >>>
Good question on the wire quality. The scope does not actually say how many amps, but lists the watts. Quick math says it consumes up to 6 amps (which seems like a lot). I used to have an old HP 1722a which was a real beast; weighed a ton and ate power.
I was wondering the same thing, with the price of copper so high.
Solid copper would weigh more, but I doubt enough more to tell given the amount of insulation. Maybe the cable manufacturer publishes their spec?
Up for some “open conductor” surgery with wire cutters?
guys i have a japanese region ps5 which writien in the power cable 125V 7a is it good to use in a country that the power voltage in it is 220 ? by the way the power supply i dual voltage it can handle 100-127 220-240 so iam only confused about the power cable . sorry for bad english
If the ps5 uses less than 7 amps and the cord is in good condition it should be ok, but you should check with Sony.
The 0.75mm2 cords and 0.82mm2 cord are actually all 18AWG. It’s just different methods of measurement. 18AWG wire is generally rated for 10A. The 1.5mm2 cord has 16AWG wire, which is actually rated for 13A, and the 2.5mm2 is 14AWG, which is rated for 15A. Note that these current ratings are based on shorter cord lengths (50 feet or less). The reason the 16AWG cord says 10A on it is because the C13 connector IEC standard only rates the connector for 10A, although they can technically carry as much as 15A, and UL will rate them for 15A. Not sure why the European cord says 16A on it, as that exceeds the ratings of both the C13 connector and the 18AWG wire. Maybe the standards are different in Europe.
Interesting. Thank you.
@@tsbrownie You’re welcome
Also check the actual wiring! I found a cheap 3-prong cable that had the live and neutral reversed from what they should be. Could be very dangerous depending on what the equipment assumes about the neutral!
Thanks for the heads up. Had not thought about that.
Does the 125v Japanese power cord work with a 230v voltage using a transformer cable japon
Sorry if my question sounds stupid ... but in short .. is a 16 amp power cable better than 10 amps?
@@menaz7880 It will carry more power.
@menaz7880 16Amps mean the maximum rate of current that can flow through the wire can withstand 16Amps. If you ran the oscilloscope using the 10A power cable and the device demands 16Amps (or anything greater than 10amps) then the 10amps cable would likely overheat, melt and cause an electrical fire since more current is passing through it than it is rated for. Electric Devices normally will only pull the amount of current needed to operate it. Having higher rated cables are always safer. Matching amperage and voltage ratings when purchasing a replacement cable should always be considered for all electronics, especially high-power electronics or appliances.
I have a Corsair CX 750 80+ Bronze SMPS with 16a 250V power cord but here in India we don't have any UPS with 16a power output sockets So can I use 6a 240V power cord with my SMPS ?
My system specifications
CPU I7 12700K
Ram 16 GB DDR5
Board Gigabyte B760M
SSD nvme WD blue 500gb
GPU RTX 4070 Super
Total power draw is roughly 600w
It would not be safe to make recommendations on a device without seeing it and measuring the input requirement. You would be better off taking to a local shop who would be familiar with your requirements and regulations.
Best cable in pc??
@Rafa_cod Depends on the PCs power requirement. As a general rule, too big is better than too small.
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