imagine how terrified Hank must've been when Cooper asks him "You want another autograph young Henry?". it's like if you wronged Clint Eastwood, then 2 centuries later he comes out of the shadows still alive and more badass than you could possibly imagine.
"I'm sorry dogmeat, but you ain't him" is so heartbreaking because you can tell that 219 years later he's still mourning the loss of his dog Roosevelt. 😿
@@mtnd02.06I really hope they have a Rex in season 2… maybe he’s there roaming around after the player got him a new brain in the NV game, looking for a new master😢
Yeesh you’re right, that’s MESSED UP. It was one of their vaults that technically achieved re-civilization. Whether how Vault-tec saw it, it wasn’t THEIR vision of civilization, to cozy up and rebuild with surface dwellers.
Not forget, when they raelly plan to rise a new mankind, they either need a technological solution for that or need many women willing to be pregnant their whole life as long as they can. So overall it would make sense for these guys to have a whole freezer vault with 100s of young pretty models, of course all checked on being ideologically brainwashed to serve the cause. It's one of the most obvious problems of such scenarios that is mostly forgotten. Overall the chance of just some hundred to survive is abysmal anyway, so you should have more and do your absolute best to raise that number as fast as you can (when having enough room and resources for that, of course).
What's funny is the Elixir Chicken man SAID he had tonics to heal damages feet or even grow feet back in episode 2, but we all just assumed he was lying.
Not only has the Ghoul been around for 200 years. He was also a solider before he was an actor. So he probably has more actual combat training and experience just from his human life then knights ever would.
He was a marine and wore a T-45b in Anchorage Reclamation Campaign. After Alaska was reclaimed, USSA forces pushed into China, but I guess Cooper completed his tour and returned home. Because there is a lot of time between Alaska and bombs dropping...
It wasn't just Mr House, all the people in that meeting from other companies were characters from New Vegas lore that you find out about at their respective companies' headquarters, and the Big MT guy figures heavily in the add-ons, you even find his corpse outside the casino he owned, Sierre Madre.
But that's not the Sinclair of the Sierra Madre! His father perhaps? because the Sinclair in the DLC was a far more human person and his one huge mistake was doing whatever it took to save his love, Vera Keyes, and THAT is why he made a deal with the lunatic scientists of "Big MT". Otherwise everyone said he was a very decent person and that's why Dean Domino hated him
@@VBane Could be :) Dead Money is my DLC of any game, it's soooooo deep, eerie and tough :) Such shame Rene Auberjonois died, he was perfect for Mr House!
Lol yeah my friend pointed that out when we were party watching, she was like "Wait is that Erik Estrada?!" blew my mind hahaha Makes sense that ol' Ponch would have rocked with the NCR/Rangers and still be in California 😉
Keep in mind average age of RUclips viewership. Closest most of these kids have ever come to CHIPS is Chris Pine and the algorithm didn't mention he's a nepobaby so they remain unaware. As they do of all things the algorithm has not mentioned.
As it turns out, the secret to a successful video game adaptation was just to craft a good story whilst capturing the spirit of what people loved about the games. I guess it took putting people in charge who actually understand and respect gaming to figure that out. Granted that same exact thing happened with comics a decade ago, but better late than never. It gives me a lot of hope for the Bioshock and Horizon shows.
Moldaver's company was the company that invented the cold fusion power and the cryo pods that vault-tec bought. She had access to that kind of tech with or without VT's say.
The underrated twist in episode 7 is the chicken molesting snake oil salesman ACTUALLY DID have serums to heal and regrow feet back in Episode 2. That scientist could still be alive if that dude wasn’t so sketchy.
"No dogs in the vaults" makes perfect sense resource wise, but dogs and humans are so deeply entwined that it would definitely be a big deal. We use them for hunting, for friends, for scavenging, for finding our way home, for guarding us from wild animals, for guarding us from wild people etc etc etc. Theyd be very useful for rebuilding the world. Also i like dogs.
Yeah, they might not be resource efficient, but they've often proven to do wonders for mental health and to be capable for other purposes (cats could hunt vermin too) - and I feel like we'd want to preserve some species that are human-friendly versus all the man-killers on the surface. Also I like dogs, and cats.
@36:33 You laughed at "super managers" but look back at how Lucy was when first exiting the vault. the scene with her first encounter with the ghoul is indeed very super managery
Simone coming in with the amazing perception check. Never fails to amaze me how good George and Simone are at sussing out the stuff they are watching. Loved the series and the reactions!
I started having suspicions about Hank/Henry after the first call, but as soon as they mentioned his name a second time I was locked in lol The de-aging was a little rough but the reveal was great, especially realizing that the woman that brought him in was Betty.
Yep, gotta have that palate cleanser before the heavy stuff starts. Episodes 5 and 8 were really spectacular. Watching Norm start to piece things together was fantastic.
It’s funny George instantly identified House. That was literally my reaction too OOH MR HOUSE. I’m not even a big NV fan but did they ever do a phenomenal job with literally all of the costume and makeup and props etc. I’ve genuinely never been excited for a show until invincible and fallout and waiting is gonna suck.
I do enjoy the fact that Butt Asskins was one of the people that ended the world. Nothing more dangerous than corporate executives. Coincidentally hilarious since this is an Amazon production.
I think Barb got promoted over him and that’s why he’s only a brain in a jar in charge of one vault (albeit an important vault). She’s the one that closed the deal with the other corporations. They weren’t buying his sales pitch.
I'm pretty sure Vault-Tec didn't actually drop the first bomb, even though they may have planned to, no way she would have allowed her daughter to be on the surface when that happened.
It could be a more symbolic statement; we'll ensure that the bomb falls by using the wealth, power and influence we wield as a major corporation. They're the cattle ranchers running the town. Plus, it was a business meeting so she had to give a punchy line to show how far VT would go and convince the other corps to join in with them.
39:43 Oh you haven't seen him in Agents of SHIELD then, he's quite the crazy dad there too. That's a show you should watch, maybe privately if it's too old for the channel, great dramatic show.
if you have subtitles on, there is one point where the subtitles name the mini robobrain [brain on a roomba]. When I saw that I started laughing so hard I had to rewind to catch what happened next
There is a theory that i read online that is fairly compelling regarding Moldavers raid on 33. She took a small group of her NCR irregular troops with her but hired a group of raiders for extra numbers. The raiders are the ones that went nuts, got left behind and imprisoned. Her troops conducted a strategic raid and captured Hank before leaving with her. You can even see it in their demeanor during the raid.
I still find it odd that she would risk Lucy and Norms lives when their mother clearly would not want them harmed. Lucy came very close to being killed. As much as I genuinely love the show, there are a few things which stretch credibility at the very least. It's certainly not perfect.
Not sure anyone mentioned already, but remember way back in Ep1, it was opined that Coop/Ghoul was doing a birthday party because ‘alimony’. He and his wife divorced at some point I think. And he was branded a ‘Commie’.
I was one of the ones who binged the show in the opening days after it launched. It's been so fun watching you both come up with theories while watching the season, knowing what was right and where you were a little off.
I said this in the first video you guys did on this series but I'll say it again. The Ghoul didn't save the dog after he stabbed it because he has a soft spot for dogs; he saved the dog because the dog could follow the scientist's scent. Even now, as he pulls the dog out of the machine, it's primarily so that the dog can follow the scent trail of the head.
I agree, but I think the dog is growing on him. He still has the dog following him at the end of 8, despite not needing to find the head anymore to get to moldaver.
The squire was walking due to the pressure of the boot, once removed it git worse. I worked as an electrician for 2 years, had my right foot stabbed by a long nail. If I had removed my work boot I'd have never gotten it back on. My foot would have swollen. So him getting it on and off left me nauseous.
I loved the fiddle music. It's the music played on Radio Freedom in Fallout 4. I usually play a Minuteman, so I listen to that station frequently in order to hear about settlements needing help or responses to my artillery requests. There's only a few songs, so it gets very repetitive which is why the shows says that the dj plays it all day.
14:48 - my thoughts exactly. im pretty sure he got some inspiration from Eddie for that line: "thats the sound of your lower intestines falling...right the fuck out" im SOOOOOOOOO excited for season 2
I relate to Cooper Howard's grave concern about no dogs in the vaults. Nuclear apocalypse is pretty bad, but quite frankly, I don't really wanna live in a world without dogs.
To steal a phrase from Jules (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction. "Check out the big brain on Simone!" Seriously, so far she's the first reactor I've seen that got it before the reveal! Bravo!
Sinclair is one of the board members, he's the guy who created the Sierra Madre casino the location from the Dead Money DLC in New Vegas. Also the Wes-Tek rep is the guy that got killed by Roger Maxon, the founder of the Brotherhood of Steel! Obviously Mr House was there in the meeting but even he didn't have the platinum chip in time for the great war. A good amount of those board members didn't fair very well as soon as the bombs fell.
The funniest thing about Moldaver is they call her the wild woman in the hills....only the hills are Beverly Hills... swimming pools, movie stars. There should be a family of hillbillies living somewhere nearby. Maybe named Jeb, Grammy, Daisy Ray and Judro? maybe not.
This show is so good. I was impressed they were able to wrap so many things up in the end. I'm fine with the unanswered stuff, I'm sure we'll get some more answers in S2. Can't wait for New Vegas! And about Norm's hacking, not only is he intelligent, they did establish that his current job is working with 'computers and information maintenance.'
2:10 scene is an obvious reference to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly movie when 'the Bad' Lee Van Cleef threatens a farmer family for information like this, sitting down and starting slowly eating.
for the context, Vault 111 was made to study the effect of cryo on human body. mostly to give them the data they need to unfreeze Vault tec employees. but Vault 111 was failed
Vault Tec dropping the first bomb and starting the great war had been heavily implied since Fallout 3. Theres a few terminals with entries from people who say it was Vault Tec but they never really proved it.
According to Todd Howard of Bethesda this show takes place 16 years after the events of New vegas game. Also, about those Managers talking. Yup, that is Mr. House and Bit MT is also in the New Vegas game (Old World Blues DLC) and Repconn is also in the NV game.
You were told it was 219 years later in Ep1, so since the bombs fell in October 2077 that makes it 2296/97, so that is 15 years after Fallout: NV (2281). Since New Vegas is looking rougher than usual, which side canonically won? Even the Legion ending didn't trash the place.
The idea of a bunch of middle managers being frozen and then unthawed to run a dystopia is the plot of Obsidian's "The Outer Worlds". I don't think the writers copied it or anything, but it's a great nod whether they meant it or not.
In episode 1 they commented that Cooper Howard was doing birthday parties for alimony money. I would imagine that a divorce would remove him from the vault list while keeping the daughter on. I am wondering if there is a separate vault for all of the higher up executives since they had a vault for the lower execs?
"If my dad found out I destroyed an entire community to save him, that'd break his heart." Yeah, after the next episode you might want to re-evaluate that, Lucy...
I love that you started playing New Vegas too! as soon as I finished the series I started a new run on it, but be warned, as soon as I got to the DLC's the game started crashing on my pc and found out mods are basically mandatory at this point for a smooth experience. Fallout 4 doesn't have that problem to my understanding, and they just released a free 22gb expansion
If the Brainbot could communicate with the desktop "computer" in Vault 33 and it became jammed like it was with that broomstick blocking its path why wouldn't it just call Betty to come and free it or wake up another one of their frozen execs? Also, when it discovered Norm wasn't Betty why wouldn't it just contact Betty and tell her what was going on instead of just telling Norm to jump into his father's cryo pod and wait it out? Why couldn't it open the bay door?
I think 33/32/31’s experiment was “management is the future”, “3 vaults supporting each other”, and for some reason I don’t understand, sex positivity.
Seriously thought Barb's involvement with Vault-Tec was just that she went along with everyone else and didn't care what others thought. I never thought she'd be revealed as the biggest monster of them all by revealing the plans to nuke the world, when governments won't do it themselves. What I really liked: What questions this season specifically *didn't* answer. We still need to know how Moldaver survived all these years and what happened to Cooper, *after* he brought his daughter to safety on horseback.
Or Bud was just deemed to unimportant to warrant a full Robobrain. All he had to do was thaw out a new overseer every now and then, and the syringe might have been a last resort if one of those overseers strayed off the script.
@@agp11001 so in case anything goes not as planned, he can'T intervene... because even a small 40kg guy can outrun himl... or stom him, by putting inside a box... Or repair something, if something breaks... during 250 years...
@@gr_pillar Well, to be fair, we got quite a few games' worth of information that Vault-Tec doesn't exactly have a great track record with contingency plans. Could also be that there are other robots in 31 to be activated for certain tasks... like cleaning up 32 over night and Bud as 31s "Overseer" wouldn't need more capabilities?
@@agp11001 But that makes no sense. There are efficient robots to clean up stuff, but no robot to guard? And the only always-active robot can stuck behind debree (why is there debree to stuck behind, if there are robots to clean up stuff?). Especially in "Executive" vault? The Brain even references "occasional very large bug". So one of those things chew through a cable and all those pods are offline and all the executives are dead.
The more I think about it, the less sense first episode makes. For the "wedding" to happen, following should be true: - Moldaver knows the vault 32 is not inhabited. Otherwise she would need more Raiders on her side - Moldaver knew that there's wedding to be (So I assume she was there multiple times. Get into vault, find out there'S a wedding to be, pretend to be an overseer, arrange wedding, find people, put up a mascarade, tech them a bit manners...) - Moldaver should've planned the wedding around the time she expected the Enclave-Scientist to escape (if the scientist didn't managed to escape after all, the whole wedding-part was for nothing) - Despite her pretending to be an overseer, Vault 32 hasn't registered any activity, since last one was 2 years ago. - Vault 31 didn't cared about vault 32 revolt - Vault 31 didn't monitor another vaults, despite the sole purpose to let out next overseers. So it didn't check on Vault 32 in 2 years. - Vault 31 didn't send another Overseer into Vault 32 - Moldaver didn't build a base in Vault 32 (who needs a safe space with water filters and stuff to use) - Hank, despite knowing who Moldaver was, since he took his daughter from her and his wife, haven't started an alarm. - Vault 33 dwellers turned off their pipboys and didn't measure radiation - Raiders, despite being aggressive junkies, understood and agreed to play along with a mascarade - Raiders didn't went on murderous rampage and didn't killed the target I'm sure I missed something else which is way too convinient for the plot to happen.
The series is not that far chronologically from the latest games. It only occurs 10 years after Fallout 4, 16 after New Vegas and 20 after Fallout 3. So the Lone Wanderer, the Courier and the Sole Survivor could all 3 still be alive and kicking in the Wasteland during these events. Wouldn't surprise me if a huge nod to the Courier is made in season 2, seeing it will have New Vegas in the forefront and him being such a beloved character from the video games. I was pleasantly surprised by season 1, wasn't expecting anything amazing and ended up having a blast with it.
maximus' storyline, seems more like an internal conflict (power-vs-integrity) justice-vs-revenge and in the highly hierarchical brotherhood, self-definition (and correspondingly self-will) seems highly constricted. Also y'all been calling a lot of the story beats early on, kudos on the strong pattern-recognition/intuition. fun to watch!
38:06 I have a lil theory, the cold fusion thing was Moldaver’s tech before Vault-tec absorbed it to them. But maybe at some point Moldaver went to Vault-tec presenting herself as the leading expert on the technology. Vault-tec wanted the best and brightest amongst their SCIENTISTS they bring upon to monitor their vaults after being in cryogenics, maybe Moldaver volunteered as a scientist after they saw her work. It’s how Moldaver could have found out her work was stored away in the Enclave, maybe she was going to work on her tech in the Enclave? Me thinks that’s how she knew Wilsig!!! But something clearly changed and she somehow went from Miss Williams to Moldaver. Something was bugging me with Hank’s words to her, “I think I know who you are”, it’s not him referring her as Moldaver but as Williams! She became an enemy to Vault-tec sometime ago before she invaded V33. A known rogue scientist like Wilsig. When she said “everyone knows who I am”, she legit meant EVERYONE including Vault-tec AND the Enclave who sees her a runaway liability to their vision of humanity. 🤔
In the executives meeting not only was robert house present but also a representative for big MT, where the old world blues new Vegas dlc takes place, and I believe Sinclair was also there, the builder of the Sierra madre casino from the dead money dlc for new Vegas, so not only will S2 take place in new Vegas, but it may also branch out to include those locations. Imagine cooper meeting dean domino (another pre war entertainment industry ghoul) assuming the canonical ending for that DLC involves dean living, if there even is an ending where he lives because let's be real, I havent replayed that fuckin dlc in 10 years because I am not a fan of its cadence. Westek and repcon reps were also present but I dont believe they have any real lore significance or have been mentioned in games before.
I can not wait for season 2. I came into this very very worried, but man they did great. Theres a couple retcons but every fallout game had retcons so its no biggie. But man, this show was a fantastic adaptation.
If Simone does play New Vegas -- possibly my favorite of all the Fallouts -- make absolutely sure you play the "Old World Blues" expansion as well. Seriously might be the hardest I've ever laughed at a videogame.
The Brotherhood in FO3 were definitely more good guy aligned, because it was a rogue chapter that went against their mission to help the people of the Capital Wasteland.
I hope season two does lean on an actual ending from New Vegas. Independent victory, Courier is a lunatic and the whole place just became a target as a result. Also I want the Desert Rangers to have left the NCR and they’re trying to rebuild the area by themselves. There’s a lot that I want and I can’t wait for it to
43:30 Morally good? She still brought raiders to a freaking vault and they massacred denizens who had nothing to do with what Vault-tec did to Shady Sands. Moldaver may not e as bad as hank but what she did is exactly that the brotherhood is doing to her little base.
I wish they had done the Macguffin better. The Fallout world is no stranger to cold fusion. In fact it is defined by massive amounts of power with little ability to control it. I think it would have landed much better if they hadn't pretended it was something new and undiscovered (By the inventor who could never invent again). If it had just been an established GECK component, the other details instantly make more sense. Shady Sands itself was built by and powered from the cold fusion of a GECK. But then again, Shady Sands had to die just to reset the world back to a state of peak familiarity, much like star wars. Nothing can ever progress or improve, everything must always reset for the next wave of writers to do it over again themselves.
I love how they refuse to let her go and force a terrifying ritual and then as always with this show, the problem gets solved on its own, turns out the machete was to set her free, and not only is she leaving the vault as requested, but with 2 weeks ration 😂..gaming on casual mode..Norm had to get through a Roomba to find the darkest secret this season has to offer
imagine how terrified Hank must've been when Cooper asks him "You want another autograph young Henry?". it's like if you wronged Clint Eastwood, then 2 centuries later he comes out of the shadows still alive and more badass than you could possibly imagine.
I read that last sentence in Alec Guiness' voice.
The ghoul has terrifying presence in the best ways possible
When hank met him first he was Rowdy Yates, now hes William Munny.
Clint eastwood is a little bitch, I aint scared of that fascist cunt
"I'm sorry dogmeat, but you ain't him" is so heartbreaking because you can tell that 219 years later he's still mourning the loss of his dog Roosevelt. 😿
Roosevelt is going to be in the show I bet. Maybe his story, himself or a taxidermy bersion…
@@bradkirchhoff5703 Honestly they need to do the Bionic Dog thing and Roosevelt would be the perfect candidate.
I would.
@@TheOctaviusLee Like Rex in New Vegas? It's possible, unlikely but possible. Its about time Dogmeat had a friend who wasn't a human or mutant.
@@mtnd02.06I really hope they have a Rex in season 2… maybe he’s there roaming around after the player got him a new brain in the NV game, looking for a new master😢
Fun fact)Code 101097 entered by the hank is a reference to October 10, 1997, the release date of the monumental first Fallout game
I remember watching the video of gameplay demo of the game. And yrs later buying the 2 pack cd rom of fallout 1 & 2 at Best Buy 🥹
The crazier part about destroying Shady Sands is that it WAS founded by vault dwellers
Yeesh you’re right, that’s MESSED UP. It was one of their vaults that technically achieved re-civilization. Whether how Vault-tec saw it, it wasn’t THEIR vision of civilization, to cozy up and rebuild with surface dwellers.
Just shows how everyone has factions. Hard not to have those 🤷
WOW OMG
That changes everything Again
I've read a theory that Stephanie Harper is the model for the Nuka Cola girl, which totally makes sense, and it would be great casting.
Not forget, when they raelly plan to rise a new mankind, they either need a technological solution for that or need many women willing to be pregnant their whole life as long as they can. So overall it would make sense for these guys to have a whole freezer vault with 100s of young pretty models, of course all checked on being ideologically brainwashed to serve the cause.
It's one of the most obvious problems of such scenarios that is mostly forgotten. Overall the chance of just some hundred to survive is abysmal anyway, so you should have more and do your absolute best to raise that number as fast as you can (when having enough room and resources for that, of course).
@@miriamweller812 It's the old Strangelove bit about the grim nature of repopulation. It doesn't take a lot of men to make a lot of babies.
@@CxOrillion especially if you already have perfected cryogenics because that stabilizes the diverse semen requirements to restart the population.
Doesn't really work Bud froze Vault tec employees not Nuka Cola employees
Would make sense since Nuka Cola was in bed with Vault-Tec
What's funny is the Elixir Chicken man SAID he had tonics to heal damages feet or even grow feet back in episode 2, but we all just assumed he was lying.
You should generally disregard claims of chicken f*ckers.
I believe his name is forever "Chicken Fucker", despite your valiant attempt at being non-profane.
Ghoulification would not grow back things like fingers and feet either, but FEV would. There is a good chance the guy becomes a supermutant now.
@@janetd5121 that's what i thought too
@@janetd5121 When Coop was buried Dom Pedro would cut off some bits and re-bury him.
Not only has the Ghoul been around for 200 years. He was also a solider before he was an actor.
So he probably has more actual combat training and experience just from his human life then knights ever would.
He was a marine and wore a T-45b in Anchorage Reclamation Campaign. After Alaska was reclaimed, USSA forces pushed into China, but I guess Cooper completed his tour and returned home. Because there is a lot of time between Alaska and bombs dropping...
And he talks about having been an "actual cowboy" before his military service. Dude has a variety of Wasteland-applicable skills, to say the least.
It wasn't just Mr House, all the people in that meeting from other companies were characters from New Vegas lore that you find out about at their respective companies' headquarters, and the Big MT guy figures heavily in the add-ons, you even find his corpse outside the casino he owned, Sierre Madre.
But that's not the Sinclair of the Sierra Madre! His father perhaps?
because the Sinclair in the DLC was a far more human person and his one huge mistake was doing whatever it took to save his love, Vera Keyes, and THAT is why he made a deal with the lunatic scientists of "Big MT".
Otherwise everyone said he was a very decent person and that's why Dean Domino hated him
@@silverbladeTE All I know is that's who the character is credited as, maybe it is a father-son thing.
@@VBane Could be :)
Dead Money is my DLC of any game, it's soooooo deep, eerie and tough :)
Such shame Rene Auberjonois died, he was perfect for Mr House!
It's implied that this is the same Frederick Sinclair since House calls him "Freddie boy"
Sinclair's Charisma must've been a 10 if Vera fell for him
@@kentinson1670 she didn't love him but she did care for him.
Not enough ppl are noticing thats Erik Estrada playing the dad of the kid Cooper shot and that saddens me lol…
Yeah, still waiting for Erik to get his career revival role like Travolta or Mickey Rourke did.
Idk I’m really hoping we see Erik dawn that suit again in the second season.
Not only is it Erik Estrada, but he's playing a former NCR Ranger. Essentially a California (Highway) Patrolman. CHiPS!
Lol yeah my friend pointed that out when we were party watching, she was like "Wait is that Erik Estrada?!" blew my mind hahaha Makes sense that ol' Ponch would have rocked with the NCR/Rangers and still be in California 😉
Keep in mind average age of RUclips viewership. Closest most of these kids have ever come to CHIPS is Chris Pine and the algorithm didn't mention he's a nepobaby so they remain unaware. As they do of all things the algorithm has not mentioned.
As it turns out, the secret to a successful video game adaptation was just to craft a good story whilst capturing the spirit of what people loved about the games. I guess it took putting people in charge who actually understand and respect gaming to figure that out. Granted that same exact thing happened with comics a decade ago, but better late than never. It gives me a lot of hope for the Bioshock and Horizon shows.
As Cooper told Moldaver in the past: "Every villain thinks THEY are the hero".
Moldaver's company was the company that invented the cold fusion power and the cryo pods that vault-tec bought. She had access to that kind of tech with or without VT's say.
The point of the last episode is they quite literally did not have access to that tech without vault tec's code.
@@elizanovember7697 For the cold fusion tech specifically yes, but if you look at every cryopod they have a different companies logo and name on them.
The underrated twist in episode 7 is the chicken molesting snake oil salesman ACTUALLY DID have serums to heal and regrow feet back in Episode 2. That scientist could still be alive if that dude wasn’t so sketchy.
I mean he is from Enclave bet he wouldn't like to be a mutant like ghoul or super mutant.
I should have never trusted a doctor that smelled like that
I mean, you fuck chickens and people are going to be a bit sus.
Now we want to know who is the mysterious stranger and the chicken fcuker.
Could Thaddeus eventually turn into Harold, or another being like Harold? Would be a neat nod to the games.
"No dogs in the vaults" makes perfect sense resource wise, but dogs and humans are so deeply entwined that it would definitely be a big deal. We use them for hunting, for friends, for scavenging, for finding our way home, for guarding us from wild animals, for guarding us from wild people etc etc etc. Theyd be very useful for rebuilding the world. Also i like dogs.
Yeah, they might not be resource efficient, but they've often proven to do wonders for mental health and to be capable for other purposes (cats could hunt vermin too) - and I feel like we'd want to preserve some species that are human-friendly versus all the man-killers on the surface. Also I like dogs, and cats.
Point proven by the Enclave, of all people. They were training those dogs for a reason.
@36:33 You laughed at "super managers" but look back at how Lucy was when first exiting the vault. the scene with her first encounter with the ghoul is indeed very super managery
Conflict resolution!
“Conflict resolution 101”, oh my god Hank taught her that as he was taught by Bud 😑
Simone coming in with the amazing perception check. Never fails to amaze me how good George and Simone are at sussing out the stuff they are watching. Loved the series and the reactions!
I started having suspicions about Hank/Henry after the first call, but as soon as they mentioned his name a second time I was locked in lol
The de-aging was a little rough but the reveal was great, especially realizing that the woman that brought him in was Betty.
Episode 7 was, by far, the funniest of the season. They did such a great job planning the whole season.
Yep, gotta have that palate cleanser before the heavy stuff starts. Episodes 5 and 8 were really spectacular. Watching Norm start to piece things together was fantastic.
Thaddius is DEFINITELY coming back in Season 2 as either a Ghoul or a Super Mutant, right? lol
A ghoul for sure. There's no way anyone has some FEV with them like that unless he went to whats left of Mariposa and somehow didn't die getting it
@@shanenonwolfe4109 there were strains of FEV across the country being worked on by West-Tek researchers, which we see in 76
@@minister6736fuck 76
It’s funny George instantly identified House. That was literally my reaction too OOH MR HOUSE. I’m not even a big NV fan but did they ever do a phenomenal job with literally all of the costume and makeup and props etc. I’ve genuinely never been excited for a show until invincible and fallout and waiting is gonna suck.
My wife and I both laughed out loud when ‘Only You’ started playing during that scene. It was the song for our first dance at our wedding 😂
I do enjoy the fact that Butt Asskins was one of the people that ended the world. Nothing more dangerous than corporate executives. Coincidentally hilarious since this is an Amazon production.
I think Barb got promoted over him and that’s why he’s only a brain in a jar in charge of one vault (albeit an important vault). She’s the one that closed the deal with the other corporations. They weren’t buying his sales pitch.
"If the company you works for drops nukes... maybe you're the baddies"
That is one hell of a quote, sir.
Vault 4 is a typical Canadian stereotype in a TV show. They giving it away generously to strangers and even hostile peoples.
I'm pretty sure Vault-Tec didn't actually drop the first bomb, even though they may have planned to, no way she would have allowed her daughter to be on the surface when that happened.
It could be a more symbolic statement; we'll ensure that the bomb falls by using the wealth, power and influence we wield as a major corporation. They're the cattle ranchers running the town.
Plus, it was a business meeting so she had to give a punchy line to show how far VT would go and convince the other corps to join in with them.
Yeah the daughter not being in a vault when it happened is a dead giveaway that things did not go as planned for vault tech
Definitely showed they were willing to do it but yeah, I don't think Vault Tec dropped the first bomb.
39:43 Oh you haven't seen him in Agents of SHIELD then, he's quite the crazy dad there too. That's a show you should watch, maybe privately if it's too old for the channel, great dramatic show.
I love Kyle MacLachlan's character in that show. CineBinge reactions to AoS would be the best day ever.
He was phenomenal in that show. So much great acting in that one, tragic that it's so overlooked.
I like how the brotherhood elder talks the same way the character in the first two games does, even with the same camera angel in some shots
if you have subtitles on, there is one point where the subtitles name the mini robobrain [brain on a roomba]. When I saw that I started laughing so hard I had to rewind to catch what happened next
There is a theory that i read online that is fairly compelling regarding Moldavers raid on 33. She took a small group of her NCR irregular troops with her but hired a group of raiders for extra numbers. The raiders are the ones that went nuts, got left behind and imprisoned. Her troops conducted a strategic raid and captured Hank before leaving with her. You can even see it in their demeanor during the raid.
Makes sense use raiders as a diversion as they are expendable and use your limited man power to get exactly what you are there for.
I still find it odd that she would risk Lucy and Norms lives when their mother clearly would not want them harmed. Lucy came very close to being killed. As much as I genuinely love the show, there are a few things which stretch credibility at the very least. It's certainly not perfect.
@@tombates9122 I think that she lost control. Probably even told Monty to let Lucy be but he didnt listen.
Two most important Men (not counting Norm😅) in Lucy’s life:
Ep1 Hank McLean to Lucy: You are my world😈.
Ep7 Maximus with Lucy: 🎶You are my world
Not sure anyone mentioned already, but remember way back in Ep1, it was opined that Coop/Ghoul was doing a birthday party because ‘alimony’. He and his wife divorced at some point I think. And he was branded a ‘Commie’.
Wow she nailed the vault 31 plot. 😂 well done.
Q: How many Music Nerds does it take to change a light bulb?
A: It's an obscure number, you wouldn't know it.
I bet you can't even name 3 kinds of lightbulbs, poser
I was one of the ones who binged the show in the opening days after it launched. It's been so fun watching you both come up with theories while watching the season, knowing what was right and where you were a little off.
So today I realized Ella Purnell (Lucy) is the voice of Gwyn on Star Trek Prodigy
I said this in the first video you guys did on this series but I'll say it again. The Ghoul didn't save the dog after he stabbed it because he has a soft spot for dogs; he saved the dog because the dog could follow the scientist's scent. Even now, as he pulls the dog out of the machine, it's primarily so that the dog can follow the scent trail of the head.
I agree, but I think the dog is growing on him. He still has the dog following him at the end of 8, despite not needing to find the head anymore to get to moldaver.
I have a feeling Cooper hit his level cap at least a century ago. He's just completing side quests now.
The squire was walking due to the pressure of the boot, once removed it git worse. I worked as an electrician for 2 years, had my right foot stabbed by a long nail. If I had removed my work boot I'd have never gotten it back on. My foot would have swollen. So him getting it on and off left me nauseous.
I loved the fiddle music. It's the music played on Radio Freedom in Fallout 4. I usually play a Minuteman, so I listen to that station frequently in order to hear about settlements needing help or responses to my artillery requests. There's only a few songs, so it gets very repetitive which is why the shows says that the dj plays it all day.
This week, like most weeks, is fiddle week!
Bro I don’t want to interrupt you but I think another settlement needs your help…
@@pseudohacker I'll be there in a minute, as advertised.
14:48 - my thoughts exactly. im pretty sure he got some inspiration from Eddie for that line: "thats the sound of your lower intestines falling...right the fuck out"
im SOOOOOOOOO excited for season 2
I relate to Cooper Howard's grave concern about no dogs in the vaults. Nuclear apocalypse is pretty bad, but quite frankly, I don't really wanna live in a world without dogs.
To steal a phrase from Jules (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction. "Check out the big brain on Simone!"
Seriously, so far she's the first reactor I've seen that got it before the reveal! Bravo!
In the meeting the big guy had the words Big MT in front of him. Big Empty was from Old World Blues, a dlc for New Vegas.
Shows like this make me really miss the days of seasons being 20+ episodes!
Sinclair is one of the board members, he's the guy who created the Sierra Madre casino the location from the Dead Money DLC in New Vegas. Also the Wes-Tek rep is the guy that got killed by Roger Maxon, the founder of the Brotherhood of Steel! Obviously Mr House was there in the meeting but even he didn't have the platinum chip in time for the great war. A good amount of those board members didn't fair very well as soon as the bombs fell.
Glad to see a reactor that played Fallout New Vegas and reacted to the background credits. Season 2 is going to be great!
Norm is seriously the MVP is this season
The funniest thing about Moldaver is they call her the wild woman in the hills....only the hills are Beverly Hills... swimming pools, movie stars. There should be a family of hillbillies living somewhere nearby. Maybe named Jeb, Grammy, Daisy Ray and Judro? maybe not.
This show is so good. I was impressed they were able to wrap so many things up in the end. I'm fine with the unanswered stuff, I'm sure we'll get some more answers in S2. Can't wait for New Vegas! And about Norm's hacking, not only is he intelligent, they did establish that his current job is working with 'computers and information maintenance.'
2:10 scene is an obvious reference to The Good, the Bad and the Ugly movie when 'the Bad' Lee Van Cleef threatens a farmer family for information like this, sitting down and starting slowly eating.
for the context, Vault 111 was made to study the effect of cryo on human body. mostly to give them the data they need to unfreeze Vault tec employees. but Vault 111 was failed
A little fun fact, the code for the cold fusion reactor is 101097 or 10th oct 97 the release date of the first fallout game.
Vault Tec dropping the first bomb and starting the great war had been heavily implied since Fallout 3. Theres a few terminals with entries from people who say it was Vault Tec but they never really proved it.
According to Todd Howard of Bethesda this show takes place 16 years after the events of New vegas game. Also, about those Managers talking. Yup, that is Mr. House and Bit MT is also in the New Vegas game (Old World Blues DLC) and Repconn is also in the NV game.
I got so happy seeing New Vegas in distance.
It's been a great ride with you on this one. Your laughs are so infecteous.
Part of me wondered if Vault 31 was home to super advanced Synths.
The code to unlock the cold fusion tech was the release date of the original Fallout game, October 10, 1997.
52:34 Coop's wife could be an enclave personnel I think.
You were told it was 219 years later in Ep1, so since the bombs fell in October 2077 that makes it 2296/97, so that is 15 years after Fallout: NV (2281). Since New Vegas is looking rougher than usual, which side canonically won? Even the Legion ending didn't trash the place.
i think you're closer to correct about the ice. Remember the dead husband's shoe size?
The idea of a bunch of middle managers being frozen and then unthawed to run a dystopia is the plot of Obsidian's "The Outer Worlds". I don't think the writers copied it or anything, but it's a great nod whether they meant it or not.
In episode 1 they commented that Cooper Howard was doing birthday parties for alimony money. I would imagine that a divorce would remove him from the vault list while keeping the daughter on. I am wondering if there is a separate vault for all of the higher up executives since they had a vault for the lower execs?
2:15 "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" reference
The dad at the start is "Ponch" (Erik Estrada), from CHIPS, 1977-1983
Ponch was rocking the Ranger outfit too. Makes perfect sense he'd be associated with the NCR!
Norm is going to take over vault 31 in Bud's stead. Controlling 32 and 33 since the overseers there won't question orders for 31.
11:30 I just realized the foreshadowing
"If my dad found out I destroyed an entire community to save him, that'd break his heart." Yeah, after the next episode you might want to re-evaluate that, Lucy...
I love that you started playing New Vegas too! as soon as I finished the series I started a new run on it, but be warned, as soon as I got to the DLC's the game started crashing on my pc and found out mods are basically mandatory at this point for a smooth experience. Fallout 4 doesn't have that problem to my understanding, and they just released a free 22gb expansion
If the Brainbot could communicate with the desktop "computer" in Vault 33 and it became jammed like it was with that broomstick blocking its path why wouldn't it just call Betty to come and free it or wake up another one of their frozen execs? Also, when it discovered Norm wasn't Betty why wouldn't it just contact Betty and tell her what was going on instead of just telling Norm to jump into his father's cryo pod and wait it out? Why couldn't it open the bay door?
Easily one of the best season finales I've ever seen.
I think 33/32/31’s experiment was “management is the future”, “3 vaults supporting each other”, and for some reason I don’t understand, sex positivity.
Seriously thought Barb's involvement with Vault-Tec was just that she went along with everyone else and didn't care what others thought. I never thought she'd be revealed as the biggest monster of them all by revealing the plans to nuke the world, when governments won't do it themselves.
What I really liked: What questions this season specifically *didn't* answer. We still need to know how Moldaver survived all these years and what happened to Cooper, *after* he brought his daughter to safety on horseback.
4/27/24. They REALLY stuck the landing with this season Ep 7 - 10/10. Ep 8 - 10/10.
They couldn't afford the huge robot for the Robo-brain, so in comes Roomba-brain.
Yep, Vault-Tec couldn't afford a real robo-brain.
Or Bud was just deemed to unimportant to warrant a full Robobrain. All he had to do was thaw out a new overseer every now and then, and the syringe might have been a last resort if one of those overseers strayed off the script.
@@agp11001 so in case anything goes not as planned, he can'T intervene... because even a small 40kg guy can outrun himl... or stom him, by putting inside a box...
Or repair something, if something breaks... during 250 years...
@@gr_pillar Well, to be fair, we got quite a few games' worth of information that Vault-Tec doesn't exactly have a great track record with contingency plans.
Could also be that there are other robots in 31 to be activated for certain tasks... like cleaning up 32 over night and Bud as 31s "Overseer" wouldn't need more capabilities?
@@agp11001
But that makes no sense. There are efficient robots to clean up stuff, but no robot to guard? And the only always-active robot can stuck behind debree (why is there debree to stuck behind, if there are robots to clean up stuff?).
Especially in "Executive" vault? The Brain even references "occasional very large bug". So one of those things chew through a cable and all those pods are offline and all the executives are dead.
so lucy had memories of the sun on her face because as a kid she was outside for a while and somehow came back without anyone in the vaults knowing?
The more I think about it, the less sense first episode makes.
For the "wedding" to happen, following should be true:
- Moldaver knows the vault 32 is not inhabited. Otherwise she would need more Raiders on her side
- Moldaver knew that there's wedding to be (So I assume she was there multiple times. Get into vault, find out there'S a wedding to be, pretend to be an overseer, arrange wedding, find people, put up a mascarade, tech them a bit manners...)
- Moldaver should've planned the wedding around the time she expected the Enclave-Scientist to escape (if the scientist didn't managed to escape after all, the whole wedding-part was for nothing)
- Despite her pretending to be an overseer, Vault 32 hasn't registered any activity, since last one was 2 years ago.
- Vault 31 didn't cared about vault 32 revolt
- Vault 31 didn't monitor another vaults, despite the sole purpose to let out next overseers. So it didn't check on Vault 32 in 2 years.
- Vault 31 didn't send another Overseer into Vault 32
- Moldaver didn't build a base in Vault 32 (who needs a safe space with water filters and stuff to use)
- Hank, despite knowing who Moldaver was, since he took his daughter from her and his wife, haven't started an alarm.
- Vault 33 dwellers turned off their pipboys and didn't measure radiation
- Raiders, despite being aggressive junkies, understood and agreed to play along with a mascarade
- Raiders didn't went on murderous rampage and didn't killed the target
I'm sure I missed something else which is way too convinient for the plot to happen.
The series is not that far chronologically from the latest games. It only occurs 10 years after Fallout 4, 16 after New Vegas and 20 after Fallout 3. So the Lone Wanderer, the Courier and the Sole Survivor could all 3 still be alive and kicking in the Wasteland during these events. Wouldn't surprise me if a huge nod to the Courier is made in season 2, seeing it will have New Vegas in the forefront and him being such a beloved character from the video games.
I was pleasantly surprised by season 1, wasn't expecting anything amazing and ended up having a blast with it.
There are also control vaults
maximus' storyline, seems more like an internal conflict (power-vs-integrity) justice-vs-revenge and in the highly hierarchical brotherhood, self-definition (and correspondingly self-will) seems highly constricted. Also y'all been calling a lot of the story beats early on, kudos on the strong pattern-recognition/intuition. fun to watch!
38:06 I have a lil theory, the cold fusion thing was Moldaver’s tech before Vault-tec absorbed it to them. But maybe at some point Moldaver went to Vault-tec presenting herself as the leading expert on the technology. Vault-tec wanted the best and brightest amongst their SCIENTISTS they bring upon to monitor their vaults after being in cryogenics, maybe Moldaver volunteered as a scientist after they saw her work. It’s how Moldaver could have found out her work was stored away in the Enclave, maybe she was going to work on her tech in the Enclave? Me thinks that’s how she knew Wilsig!!!
But something clearly changed and she somehow went from Miss Williams to Moldaver. Something was bugging me with Hank’s words to her, “I think I know who you are”, it’s not him referring her as Moldaver but as Williams! She became an enemy to Vault-tec sometime ago before she invaded V33. A known rogue scientist like Wilsig. When she said “everyone knows who I am”, she legit meant EVERYONE including Vault-tec AND the Enclave who sees her a runaway liability to their vision of humanity. 🤔
as someone who worked retail for over a decade, the concept of a future run by *purposefully-bred middle managers* is _FUCKING TERRIFYING_ .
36:45 We don't kow that they did but we know they were ready and willing too.
This was great -- thank you for posting this series.
8:04 I think he's still walking on that because he popped stimpak(s) and/or Med-X to keep himself temporarily functional
In the next season I need to see 'The Mysterious Stranger's origin.
27:12 Wait, what? How? crazy good pull!
When I first saw this, I missed the secretary was a young Betty! :-D
In the executives meeting not only was robert house present but also a representative for big MT, where the old world blues new Vegas dlc takes place, and I believe Sinclair was also there, the builder of the Sierra madre casino from the dead money dlc for new Vegas, so not only will S2 take place in new Vegas, but it may also branch out to include those locations. Imagine cooper meeting dean domino (another pre war entertainment industry ghoul) assuming the canonical ending for that DLC involves dean living, if there even is an ending where he lives because let's be real, I havent replayed that fuckin dlc in 10 years because I am not a fan of its cadence. Westek and repcon reps were also present but I dont believe they have any real lore significance or have been mentioned in games before.
Remember when Betty told Norm that she and Hank both burried his mom together? I think she was telling the truth, metaphorically speaking.
Season 2 must have a Mysterious Stranger.
I can not wait for season 2. I came into this very very worried, but man they did great. Theres a couple retcons but every fallout game had retcons so its no biggie. But man, this show was a fantastic adaptation.
If Simone does play New Vegas -- possibly my favorite of all the Fallouts -- make absolutely sure you play the "Old World Blues" expansion as well. Seriously might be the hardest I've ever laughed at a videogame.
The Brotherhood in FO3 were definitely more good guy aligned, because it was a rogue chapter that went against their mission to help the people of the Capital Wasteland.
I hope season two does lean on an actual ending from New Vegas. Independent victory, Courier is a lunatic and the whole place just became a target as a result.
Also I want the Desert Rangers to have left the NCR and they’re trying to rebuild the area by themselves.
There’s a lot that I want and I can’t wait for it to
Wow, Erik Estrada.
43:30 Morally good? She still brought raiders to a freaking vault and they massacred denizens who had nothing to do with what Vault-tec did to Shady Sands. Moldaver may not e as bad as hank but what she did is exactly that the brotherhood is doing to her little base.
I wish they had done the Macguffin better. The Fallout world is no stranger to cold fusion. In fact it is defined by massive amounts of power with little ability to control it. I think it would have landed much better if they hadn't pretended it was something new and undiscovered (By the inventor who could never invent again). If it had just been an established GECK component, the other details instantly make more sense. Shady Sands itself was built by and powered from the cold fusion of a GECK. But then again, Shady Sands had to die just to reset the world back to a state of peak familiarity, much like star wars. Nothing can ever progress or improve, everything must always reset for the next wave of writers to do it over again themselves.
I hope next season has a reference to Benny, for Matthew Perry.
Does anybody know if the leader of the Brotherhood is actually Father Elijah?
I love how they refuse to let her go and force a terrifying ritual and then as always with this show, the problem gets solved on its own, turns out the machete was to set her free, and not only is she leaving the vault as requested, but with 2 weeks ration 😂..gaming on casual mode..Norm had to get through a Roomba to find the darkest secret this season has to offer