I started buying Cds in 1983 when I bought a second hand Sony CDP-101, although I replaced most of the early titles I bought with remasters or Surround Sound versions SACD/Blu Ray, etc. I wish I'd kept the CD player!!
While I rip CDs to my computer, I still like to have the physical copy because my ability to listen to them doesn't go away with a subscription, Internet, or distribution cut. The Internet might be more stable than ever, but it still does go down for whatever reason. So, what do you do then? You can listen to a CD, watch a DVD or BD, take a nap, or just be bored out of your skull. I've also just started archiving my data with BDs. While flash drive can offer more capacity, BDs are just more reliable and cheaper. While many might find "the cloud" as more versatile than physical media, it is stored on someone else's stuff which does vastly reduce privacy and reliability in that they aren't responsible for your data just disappearing with the press of a delete key by an employee.
At 100 ms/data spot (10e-1 secs/bit), that's over 30000 centuries to write a petabit (10e-15 bits)...so I think there's some engineering that remains to be done... Also does not address the longevity of the stored data; if it's not on the order of overall write time of the disc, you'd be losing data to entropy before you'd even finished writing the whole disc...
6:22 - Wat? Who thinks that a polycarbonate disc is worse for the environment than stuffing everything in a huge data center that consumes as much power as a development country all day, every day, even when you dont use it?
Vinyls were loved and are still loved by many people. CDs were more convenient and a colossal propaganda campaign convinced people they were better quality and more durable, however they never generated the emotional connection of Vinyls and the vast majority of CDs went to landfill. The cognitive dissonance between the propaganda and soulless experience of owning a CDs convinced a whole generation that music was worthless.
That’s not because they weren’t better than vinyl. Vinyl sucks; you just associate it with all the best music of your youth. The reason CDs went defunct is that they are just a storage medium for digital files. Music is just s file on your PC that takes essentially no space at all. You can also stream it and have access to almost all the music ever recorded in the best quality available. Vinyl isn’t for sound quality; it’s objectively terrible. Believe or not; there are people in double blind tests who prefer bad , low bit rate MP3 compression. It is what they grew up with.
@@soylentgreenb Imagine the following scenario... a man with a vinyl collection decides to conduct an experiment, he obtains a losslessly compressed, digitally remastered, 48khz version of one of his albums and performs a back to back listening test against his vinyl version. He decides the digital version is objectively better and the result is so convincing that he obtains equally high quality versions of his whole collection and puts the vinyls away in the attic. Several years later he realises that he doesn't really listen to music any more. Unrelated example... my local park improved the rough gravel paths by tarmacing them, this was to make the park more accessible, great, now nobody goes there. I'm not conscious of why but I see the effect, it seems nobody else is conscious of it either, there have been no complains, people were generally positive about it, they just stopped going there.
vid starts at 7.00 minutes
you the real MVP
thank you
I appreciate this. Thanks for trimming the fat
Changing the playback speed to 1.25 also improves the viewing experience as the narrator speaks very slowly
Not all heroes
It's all fine & dandy storing 10 gazillion terabytes of data, the question is; how quickly can you retrieve it?
Does it matter when storage is already so dense? Indexing and retrieval are the goals, not density.
I would love something that resembles a floppy disk.
I started buying Cds in 1983 when I bought a second hand Sony CDP-101, although I replaced most of the early titles I bought with remasters or Surround Sound versions SACD/Blu Ray, etc. I wish I'd kept the CD player!!
the storage breakthrough we actually want is longer lasting, more resilient archive media
You mean m-disc?
While I rip CDs to my computer, I still like to have the physical copy because my ability to listen to them doesn't go away with a subscription, Internet, or distribution cut. The Internet might be more stable than ever, but it still does go down for whatever reason. So, what do you do then? You can listen to a CD, watch a DVD or BD, take a nap, or just be bored out of your skull.
I've also just started archiving my data with BDs. While flash drive can offer more capacity, BDs are just more reliable and cheaper. While many might find "the cloud" as more versatile than physical media, it is stored on someone else's stuff which does vastly reduce privacy and reliability in that they aren't responsible for your data just disappearing with the press of a delete key by an employee.
And to think I was going to get rid of my CD drive on my PC lol
Forty two years isn't bad for a medium whose development started in the late seventies.
At 100 ms/data spot (10e-1 secs/bit), that's over 30000 centuries to write a petabit (10e-15 bits)...so I think there's some engineering that remains to be done...
Also does not address the longevity of the stored data; if it's not on the order of overall write time of the disc, you'd be losing data to entropy before you'd even finished writing the whole disc...
damn now I have to worry about scratching disks again...
well i dont think we'd be needing 200tb anytime soon tbf
@@dg20038 before you know it...
1:00 - PHILIPS INTRODUCE????? Since when was "PHILIPS" plural?
...Since 1891? 🙄
@@EvilOdin I'd have gone with "PHILIPS INTRODUCES". Company names are always singular.
kinda want to DL wikipedia now.
Tgis will only be for datacenters and will be extremley expensive
6:22 - Wat? Who thinks that a polycarbonate disc is worse for the environment than stuffing everything in a huge data center that consumes as much power as a development country all day, every day, even when you dont use it?
good online storage of video games is way to high. bring back the disks
That ain't no disk. It's a microchip. 😅
Too bad it will be the slowest storage ever, there is a reason disk storage is obsolete.
Vinyls were loved and are still loved by many people. CDs were more convenient and a colossal propaganda campaign convinced people they were better quality and more durable, however they never generated the emotional connection of Vinyls and the vast majority of CDs went to landfill. The cognitive dissonance between the propaganda and soulless experience of owning a CDs convinced a whole generation that music was worthless.
That’s not because they weren’t better than vinyl. Vinyl sucks; you just associate it with all the best music of your youth. The reason CDs went defunct is that they are just a storage medium for digital files. Music is just s file on your PC that takes essentially no space at all. You can also stream it and have access to almost all the music ever recorded in the best quality available.
Vinyl isn’t for sound quality; it’s objectively terrible.
Believe or not; there are people in double blind tests who prefer bad , low bit rate MP3 compression. It is what they grew up with.
@@soylentgreenb Imagine the following scenario... a man with a vinyl collection decides to conduct an experiment, he obtains a losslessly compressed, digitally remastered, 48khz version of one of his albums and performs a back to back listening test against his vinyl version. He decides the digital version is objectively better and the result is so convincing that he obtains equally high quality versions of his whole collection and puts the vinyls away in the attic. Several years later he realises that he doesn't really listen to music any more.
Unrelated example... my local park improved the rough gravel paths by tarmacing them, this was to make the park more accessible, great, now nobody goes there. I'm not conscious of why but I see the effect, it seems nobody else is conscious of it either, there have been no complains, people were generally positive about it, they just stopped going there.