Precision vs Might Discussion & Rounds 26-28 Highlights

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2019
  • Highlights from completing Rounds 26,27,28 while having a discussion about the disparity between Precision & Might and how it impacts Survival Mode
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  • @ObsidianChill
    @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +6

    I'm not saying "Might" in general is worse than Precision. I would much rather be might for single target and have no issues doing well against precision dps in normal raids but specifically for instances such as SM precision is infinitely better which is the issue if the devs want to continue content like this. This is where the disparity needs to be addressed.

    • @Silvercrypto11
      @Silvercrypto11 5 лет назад +3

      Wow you pulling a mepps when he complained about jump canceling in hardlight honestly u have good content but when you do videos about complaining because you get out dps in single target it just childish all your doing Is dividing the community the point of the game is to play together with a healthy competitive way might aways beats prec in add damage splashing damage etc but single target prec out shines it by the same amount might outshines prec when it comes to splash. All your doing is complaining because a your getting out damage in prec ok well why don't you complain about rage munitions etc you don't because they are might hell eye of the gemini is pretty crappy artifact milk in damage by using other dpss damage if you think about it that artifact was meant for noobs that don't know how to dps but can keep up in damage do to the artifact but when u put it on a great dps it's over powered but nope you don't complain about. I'm one of the people ice prec I was ice might and I've been might since 2012 just this year I switched to prec because I did not want pay 10 bucks to switch to another power because ice powers where glitchy so I started to spec for prec and I love it it takes more skill to prec than spam a rotation and u can mess your prec rotation much easier than a might rotation etc I know flurry shot is easy to use but it took me a week without watching videos about prec to find a rotation and get my jump cancel right testing etc. I don't understand the aggression you give against prec we should all play together dps and have a good healthy competitive way. Hell when someone uses eye of gemini and all dpss run away from it I stand next to the guy who popped it and use my SC because all our job is to beat and burn the boss and work together. ( don't run eye of gemini I use venom ai and grem) I subcribed to your channel after you replied to me about making a video about the op back and how to get it but now I'm questioning my subcription to you hopefully you think this through and don't spread negativity just cus u get out dps on single target hope you have a good day

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +3

      @@Silvercrypto11 Where is there splash damage or add damage needed for survival mode lol, players just use QWA-bombs on the add waves and they do more than themselves than any might dps would do rotation wise just using the consumables and the add waves are just a few minutes compared to a boss round that is 25-40min of purely single target dpsing. If you can't see the issue with precision dpsing and how it relates to content like survival mode than I would seriously question you. Just with 1 artifact and a controllers recharge its a 54%+20% buff to your precision and what does might get? only 7% if you are running the claw as a controller which most aren't because it just came out in JLD and would be alot of nth metal to have it at 120-160 rank in time for SM. There is not a single might power that can match precision single target at range with comparable power. Every might power that is good at single target requires MASSIVE power to pull it off all of which you won't have nor could sustain in sm.
      You are thinking about this from the perspective of raiding which I have routinely said in the video and in the comments that's not where its directed to. Please either pay attention to the video and actually understand what I am saying before jumping to your conclusions. If you wish to unsub go right ahead and have a great day.

    • @Silvercrypto11
      @Silvercrypto11 5 лет назад +1

      @@ObsidianChill again you may think is unfair etc but I mean the problem is that u have switch up your game play to beat the content isn't that what you always talked about how mission (raids sm alerts events) are repetive and easy now that sm forces you to use more of your weapon combo or single target loadouts for example rage is insane especially melee but you can't melee in sm or elite so these contents forces you to make up new single target loadouts while using range and that's good but obviously some might powers can have a great single target than others the devs know that which means some may switch powers if some one finds an op might power single target for sm etc but what I like about prec is it don't matter that much in since of what power your are you can spec to prec practice your loadout practice jump clipping and etc and be good as long as you put the effort and I rather do that then spend 10 bucks on new power and the issue I believe is might damage out is low in single target if some single target powers get a buff I feel that what it needs but debuffing prec or anything like that would not help the game only dps egos. The reason I come across up front with you is because in past video you did criticize prec about a year ago and you can influence the gamers but in a better direction not many dcuo you tubers have the voice or put as much effort as you but I just hope you would not bash prec that bad honestly give it a try and you should make a video about it

    • @David-gz6nk
      @David-gz6nk 5 лет назад +1

      hypocrites hunter if you are getting doubled by prec users you might want to look at your loadout and rotation. Prec is good if you know what you’re doing. If you don’t than you will do terrible at it. Same as might. If you know what you’re doing than you can do good. If not you will do terrible.

    • @lazybone590
      @lazybone590 4 года назад

      @hypocrites hunter you sound stupid, maybe you just suck LOL. I've out DPS a bunch of precision players using might. And I have gotten out DPS as well, but nonetheless who gives a fuk it's just the game.. I notice a lot of people are jumping on the Precision dick bandwagon meta, not me. I decided to be a superhero or supervillain to use super powers that's what I'm into. Not smashing combos like I'm playing Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat, I'll leave the combo smashing to those games. Precision seems like it's un, or just something that most people do for bragging rights to say oh I got the most boss damage I guess ever since the buff prec. The way I see it ,just shut the fuk up enjoy the game..

  • @-bright8545
    @-bright8545 5 лет назад +8

    I like that lunge towards mantas heat vision 😅

  • @karacooper8710
    @karacooper8710 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this video, what are you to go powers as prec dps on gadgets for sm and out of sm please?

  • @fuckeverybodycom
    @fuckeverybodycom 5 лет назад +2

    Now you see why I’ve been precision ever since the revamp it’s more beneficial to your overall power and the way you would use it for utility that’s why I can make more successful hybrid also using precision

  • @DCUOGeoforcee100
    @DCUOGeoforcee100 5 лет назад

    very good video again :)

  • @richardsonbrothers6962
    @richardsonbrothers6962 5 лет назад +12

    No one is going to keep changing or spending money on artifacts and augments to play this expensive ass game already and I not being negative this game is too expensive to play these days especially if your trying to be good

  • @magusxxx
    @magusxxx 5 лет назад +1

    As you said, Absorb Heat can't be cancelled. But Heat Vision, Mass Detonation, and Snuff Out can be cancelled quite easily.

  • @savior76gd
    @savior76gd 5 лет назад +7

    Prec spec looks so boring. How does anyone keep their interest in it?

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад

      it sucks on mouse thats for sure I wouldn't want to only do it.

  • @lazybone590
    @lazybone590 4 года назад

    Is that Boss rush thing still in the game? I never seen that option

  • @JulianRenner
    @JulianRenner 5 лет назад

    just curious, whats an estimate of how much money you spent on this game?

  • @goodtogrow7774
    @goodtogrow7774 5 лет назад +2

    What do you think of hybrid nature? Put dots on in wolf form go human prec harvesting dots?

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +1

      works just fine but your dots auto drop on deathstroke making you nearly useless and you have the risk of dying which then you won't have the SC at all to maintain wolf/gorilla in sm. Works fine for normal raiding.

  • @tomilomuanya2797
    @tomilomuanya2797 5 лет назад

    can u do a best dps powers video please

  • @MrSraluch
    @MrSraluch 5 лет назад +1

    can someone explain me why some powers got weapon buff coldown reduction white mods ( back ) and some dont ?
    i mean i know this devs but still any reassons ?

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +1

      the white mods are based off pre-stats revamp powers and they weren't adjusted during stats revamp, same thing with the supercharge generator accelerated mods

    • @MrSraluch
      @MrSraluch 5 лет назад

      i guess its not going to change any time soon so for now im gona change all my toons to water .
      sick game

  • @RogueAutumn
    @RogueAutumn 5 лет назад

    In order for the devs to address the disparity, they will need to start mixing in a few bosses that are immune to weapon attacks.
    That way the player will have to switch between might and precision, depending on the boss they are facing.

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад

      Hybrid dpsing was very viable and actually the strongest during stats revamp on test sever and it was fast and fluid clipping of the regular weapon combos but at the last min they buffed the WM combos through the roof in terms of dmg and left us the way it is now. Even rolling back the WM dmg to where it was similar to the regular combos would be a great step to have a mix of prec and might in one rotation.

  • @reckless_andrew
    @reckless_andrew 5 лет назад

    Can you make a vid about round 10 that electric move us dose is crazy 😞

    • @C_KrNn
      @C_KrNn 5 лет назад

      The easiest way is just to go out of range every red skull. It gets tedious, but it's the safest way to do it

  • @shoggy532
    @shoggy532 5 лет назад

    the Robobt from iconic power is strong so i have him in my celestial prec LO

  • @meremortals9960
    @meremortals9960 5 лет назад +3

    So basically sm is geared more for prec dps....way to go devs anotha notch in the belt if thats the case why dont they make hybrid viable for dps

  • @Top-Lip
    @Top-Lip 5 лет назад +1

    This game would really benefit from a complete dps overhaul, a removal of might and prec and a having a single damage stat again. I think it's better for the artifact system.
    dps would have to use both their powers and their weapon efficiently rather than just spamming rotations. utilizing both powers and weapons and making clipping more important while making powers more power costly but more effective. This means people can't just pay to max gear and artis and get top damage, players would have to be good aswell and it then becomes a skill to dps rather than spamming a braindead rotation and cuts down on tunnel vision dps being locked in animations and dying to mechanics.
    If the devs design raids so that more mobility is needed, and dps need to be more alert to the surroundings, as opposed to just letting players fly over mechanics and be immobile, it would make the player base more versatile for harder content to be implemented.
    With a single damage stat, people can still choose to specialize in single target or aoe damage with the same stat, which stops the issue of might and prec augments, metagenes and artis being divisive. Might can run venom wrist, prec can run soul cloak so it's not unbalanced. All powers would need to have their dps sides adjusted aswell to facilitate this.
    might is incredibly unbalanced and a lot of powers like sorcery, mental, atomic, ice, fire, etc... could use some buffs as they are noticeably inferior to other might powers.
    Iconic powers and movement powers should be buffed so that there aren't certain powers that are drastically more powerful than others and so might dps isn't just restricted to a few powers that do the most damage, people with slightly weaker powers would have more options than tornado pull and phase dodge, (which I think needs a lower cooldown) and would be able to improvise to get better damage. Artifacts not only make the game pay to win, but they are divisive to the playerbase so I think it needs to be made easier to swap artifacts. There's no reason why deconstructing an artifact Can't give 100% of its xp to the new artifact, given the rate artifacts are being added to the game which is constantly changing the meta, and catalysts and seals should be earned by playing the content, not just bought with source marks at one vendor.
    Weapons in general need to be buffed so weapon based dps isnt restricted to dual wield wm and I think wm should be more important again, skill points need to be more important and time capsule sp needs to be either removed or given to the entire playerbase to make the game fairer. the combat system (block, block break, interrupt) needs to play a bigger role for dps in content aswell.
    Doing something like this will tremendously cut down on the P2W aspects of the game, make the game more challenging by naturally making the gameplay harder and more skill based, and would bring a lot of older players back.
    Survival mode should always be single target focused and the mechanics should revolve around the boss. but what the devs need to do next time is make The health pools smaller, and the mechanics harder. rounds 20+ of the current sm rely too much on bosses having massive health pools which makes deathstroke, ultimate soldier, ultraman, baron savage nothing more than glorified damage sponges.
    Rather than having a prec survival mode or a might survival mode, it would be better to overhaul dps so that in the future, people only need to worry about a single stat when dpsing.

    • @diogoferreira6684
      @diogoferreira6684 5 лет назад +1

      When I realise that my boy Jake actually listens to my rants xDD
      Yeah the issue here with nerfing prec is that the people who already have spent hundreds on prec artifacts would have to spend it again to change to might, it's just not fair on the player whatsoever.
      They can nerf dw, but other weapons need a buff asap, and might needs a buff, but buff the bad powers like the ones you mentioned and maybe a few more. They are shifting the meta through artifacts which is locking balance behind paywalls which is really bad. I think that if you already went through the process of maxing an artifact you should be able to just put all of the exp into another artifact. It's fine getting the seals and catalysts again, but the exp takes way too long.
      One stat for damage instead of two would make the game way less P2W, that's for sure

    • @starrequiem6053
      @starrequiem6053 2 года назад

      @@diogoferreira6684 nothing needs a nerf what they should do is buff ice and other underrated powers and weapons for pvp to be more fair.

    • @diogoferreira6684
      @diogoferreira6684 2 года назад

      @@starrequiem6053 you’re replying to a 2 year old comment

  • @wilderk97
    @wilderk97 5 лет назад +1

    They need too sped up the animations on night so it can keep up

  • @N0moreBrandy
    @N0moreBrandy 5 лет назад +3

    YES BRO omg.. im so sick of the Prec. I cant get into any groups because im strait might, Its horrible man im being forced to upgrade 2 more artifacts on top of my 5 I already have at 160. You basically have to have Prec. to do SM. Even with 400+sp Nobody wants people in the group without Prec. ATLEAST ON VILLIAN SIDE I have not made it past round 11 im afraid im going to have to set this season out just to get my Venom Dispenser up.

    • @puzzler6s618
      @puzzler6s618 5 лет назад +1

      Your Imagination then play your support role to run SM.

    • @N0moreBrandy
      @N0moreBrandy 5 лет назад

      @@puzzler6s618 I just recently switched from Munitions to Electric so my healing isnt up to par with SM right now.

    • @xnsimmonsx
      @xnsimmonsx 5 лет назад +1

      What happened to enjoying the game experience your way. it seems like now all of a sudden if you're not playing like everyone else you're not going to progress through certain content.

    • @David-gz6nk
      @David-gz6nk 5 лет назад

      Niles Simmons you don’t need SM to proceed in the game. At the very least you just need to get to round 10 to get the 2 turrets. SM doesn’t drop gear or any stat boosting stuff. Sure you get the consumables but they only work in SM.

  • @darkmugetsu6572
    @darkmugetsu6572 5 лет назад +2

    Hopefully with the developers watching these sm rounds they may consider the disparity between prec and might that sm brought to light and they may do some quality of life fixes to might based powers a bit by speeding up some animations allowing cancelation, etc, mabye even buff the damage of all might based attacks by a tiny percent or the effect of might artifacts cause why are you using power to get the same damage that could be done without power using a weapon but that's just wishful thinking, they never listen to us so easily.

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +1

      I hope they are so that we get a weapons pass after SM because of the disparity. I don't want prec nerfed but DW and BOW are huge outliers and need to be adjusted and other combos buffed.

    • @dcuoffendinghabits7949
      @dcuoffendinghabits7949 5 лет назад

      They arent, they claimed they were going to watch once new scoreboard was put in and changes were going to be made, but I havent seen anything happen yet. So why would SM change anything?

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад

      @@dcuoffendinghabits7949 Im not sure if they watched with the scorecard but I know that they are watching alot of SM runs. Millbarge has routinely been in streams and has been upset that SM has been beaten so quickly. Its easy to have to correlation between beating SM and precision strength so the best chance we have to get a weapons pass will be after SM after they see how much it was used to pass their expectations of what they thought players would get to.

    • @darkmugetsu6572
      @darkmugetsu6572 5 лет назад

      @@ObsidianChill I just think that might powers should have a better edge in damage by
      lowering the power cost,
      Reduce cooldowns on most abilities,
      and
      speeding up animation to allow easier opportunity to cancel your combos and evade enemies if needed and also increase damage by being able to throw out abilities faster.
      Also instead of nerfing what exists, we need an artifact to compete with venom dispenser.

    • @David-gz6nk
      @David-gz6nk 5 лет назад

      ObsidianChillDCUO without smokebomb and flurry shot precision is dead in the water. It’s not about nerfing precision. They need to fix might scaling...

  • @Advocate_INFJ
    @Advocate_INFJ 4 года назад

    DC can easily be fun if they stop limiting people from switching powers and roles, its tedious to make multiple characters. They should make it so we can use the artifacts and augments on multiple toons, not sure why they wouldn't want people to have multiple toons, make it a members only thing, like mods on generators and stuff.
    They should also consider allowing people to change powers at any time, again make it a member only so they can still make money out of it, thats all they care about anyways... that way we don't have to ever worry about finding roles during raid and stuff, anyone can switch to any power and run raids.
    It will keep the game fresh and fun for a very long time imo. I know for a fact alot of players like myself never even played certain powers

  • @greenbeans9388
    @greenbeans9388 5 лет назад

    Could you give me a load out for muni precision? And possible rotation? I’m interested in switching

    • @Surprentis007
      @Surprentis007 5 лет назад

      Is there even such a thing for munitions.. lol

  • @DEMONJOKER69
    @DEMONJOKER69 5 лет назад +3

    I’m might spec. I do just fine precision is boring af. Battle tank troll heal is stupid as well.

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +2

      in your spec you won't be successful in runs like survival mode, for general gameplay might is still perfectly fine.

  • @INSPECTORZAP
    @INSPECTORZAP 5 лет назад

    I have seen people with these electric eyes that look way better then power of Zeus eyes, do you know what they are? The electricity comes farther out from the face.

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад

      They could be the eyes of the dusk they were apart of the assassin time capsules.

    • @INSPECTORZAP
      @INSPECTORZAP 5 лет назад

      @@ObsidianChill Thanks for your response Bro. I have the E of TD. Maybe mine look bigger when others look at me...lol Love ya bro...

  • @Seven-ek9gy
    @Seven-ek9gy 5 лет назад +1

    Quantum troll.im pretty strong troll.i can always tell when I've got a dps who's all might.dont even gotta inspect em.few minutes of play will tell me.some powers drain me more than others

  • @AnotherDaytoSee
    @AnotherDaytoSee 5 лет назад

    So is might dps just kind of irrelevant nowadays?

    • @ObsidianChill
      @ObsidianChill  5 лет назад +1

      no, just for instances like survival mode or heavily single target focused raids

    • @AnotherDaytoSee
      @AnotherDaytoSee 5 лет назад

      ObsidianChillDCUO oh ok thank you

  • @dcinfamousreturns4454
    @dcinfamousreturns4454 5 лет назад

    I wish hardlight would go back to precision base. They really fucked up my character. I use to be able to stun and juggle enemies now that's gone.

  • @David-gz6nk
    @David-gz6nk 5 лет назад +2

    Pre GU36 HL was the definition of skill = reward. The better you were at clipping powers and managing your power the more damage you could do. When you ran into a hL dps you could tell if they were a real HL dps or if they were just HL for the flavor of the month. You yourself even challenged Spytle to perform the combos if he thought that the changes in gu36 were the same as speed clipping. And in his video you could tell that he just couldn’t do it.
    Fast forward and the game was dumbed down on the dps side. Powers were all simplified and slowed down. Most powers can be broken down to be 1234 1234 1234 or some variation of it.
    The hardest thing to do right now is learning how to do the flurry shot jump clipping. You can tell who has put in work to learn precision and who is precision just for the flavor of the month. You even have people claiming that precision dps follows some cookie cutter guideline. Like use your sc generator, weapon buff, a pet, neo venom, a shield, and either a second shield or phase dodge.
    Any real prec dps can show you that there are actually rotations and actual loadouts for different stuff. In your videos you can tell that you are horrible at precision. And this isn’t to insult you. This is to show that it’s not for everyone. Yes with time you will get better. However it’s harder to learn than just getting a loadout from RUclips or from the forums.
    Precision right now is the last “hard” thing to learn in this game. Precision right now is the watered down version of what HL used to be. Knowing when to clip, when to jump, when to use certain combos and so on.
    Back than things were unbalanced but fair. Unbalanced because you had to be HL to be top dps. However fair because you actually had to practice and learn your power inside and out to actually be top dps.
    Right now things are somewhat balanced and fair in a skewed way. Somewhat balanced because any power can be prec dps however some are better for prec than others. And fair in a skewed way because while you have to practice to be good at it, you have to be prec instead of might.
    I don’t think they should nerf precision at all. What they SHOULD do is buff other weapons be as good as flurry shot and smoke bomb. For example, some weapons are good at single target some at aoe range and some at melee. But to maximize your damage you actually have to buy multiple weapons.
    And for might, just simple have them scale slightly better with the might stat. And give the might power stat a larger power pool or give the might augments more power.

  • @Scarlet-Dragon
    @Scarlet-Dragon 5 лет назад +1

    So basically a shid show for might

  • @Sena-qp9yf
    @Sena-qp9yf 5 лет назад

    Just like i left when weapon mastery came out I'll take a break with this, I don't like using my weapon on this game at all but more power tot he people who like prec y'all go ahead and be great.

  • @RaymondReddington007
    @RaymondReddington007 5 лет назад +1

    ObsidianChill, serious offer. Would you be interested in helping me set up a couple of my characters and teaching me the rotations? I could pay via PayPal.

    • @RaymondReddington007
      @RaymondReddington007 5 лет назад

      Kieran B because I haven’t played in a very long time and it seems there a lot of dos and donts on everything from equipment, powers, augments, etc. so I would like to have someone help me that knows what he is doing

  • @beastking-zk1yk
    @beastking-zk1yk 5 лет назад +1

    i not played this game in year good never going bck

  • @averythompkins3682
    @averythompkins3682 Год назад

    GOD loves you enough to send HIS only SON to save you and if you repent and turn from your sins and be baptized in THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON and THE HOLY SPIRIT. ((if you haven't )