How to Refill Pentel Color Brush Pen
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Here's how I refill my Pentel Color Brush Pen. For black, I use Rotring ink. If you want colours, you can try Dr. Ph. Martin's Hydrus Watercolor.
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Thanks for the video, but a warning to newbies like me: DO NOT throw away the inside tubes, the ink flow is crazily wet without it!
i made this mistake and i cant find the stopper ;-;
Thanks for the advice
Brilliant idea! Save money and the environment, every fill is one less pen in a land-fill :-)
Thank You Teoh
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Great tip thanks
You turned it into an actually useful Fude Pen.
I have been searching for a Fude Pen that is more like an actual brush but has the convenience of a pen.
Good Job.
What is a fude pen?
fude brushes or pens are made primarily for writing. they typically have a relatively short and springy brush tip, allowing for a lot variation of line width. where those ment for drawing/painting have longer bristols, and tend to be easier to control, doring long strokes, because they arent as sensitive.
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Whoa! Great info, Teoh! I hate throwing away those empty pens. Thanks for sharing your resourcefulness. Very clear and great videography, as usual, too!
Thanks for this tutorial. I tried the color brushes but found the ink too slow-drying. I decided to refill mine with water instead and they are fantastic as water-brushes. Better than my Pentel water brushes, as the flow is more frugal and can be used almost dry (you need to press hard to create washes) . Shame the barrel is not transparent but the 6.5ish ml capacity lasts longer than you'd think.
Thank you so so much for this! I even tried figuring out with my entire family but we could not find an opening, until i saw your video. the pen is so craftily designed, thank you again for sharing this!! 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much for this video! I hate throwing out perfectly good pens when they just need more ink.
I recommend using Daiso Sumi Ink, it’s a thick India ink for Japanese calligraphy and the dude brush pen is also sometimes used for Japanese calligraphy
I use this pen a lot! The refill cartridge itself is not chap at all if you buy many times. This video will help me so much of my expense. Thank you!
Absolutely loved it, ....who knew there was so much to learn about just one pen!?!!....Great video, I particularly appreciated the ''straight forward approach", and you tell it how it is! Well done!
Great advice, I removed just the middle barrel(with the red cap on one side) as the ink flow was quite slow and it works just as I wanted now.
Thank you so much mate! we need more people like you who come with great ideas! More power to you!
Thanks :-)
Thanks for all of the good reviews you do.
A couple of things, the tubes inside have nothing to do with the ink flow when you're using the brush to draw or write. That's controlled by the the white cylinder at the base of the brush. I suspect that they put the tubes inside so that people who don't really know how to use the pen do squeeze way to hard and squeeze way to much ink on the bristles. If you know how hard to squeeze then there's no need for the tubes or little valve with the pie-shaped cutout. I find those parts can get gummed up any and cause uneven squirting, causing flooding. I cut the refill plug right off right after where it supports the threads and take the pie-shaped valve right out. Works perfectly every time! The only problem I have is that the tiny cylindrical valve near the base of the bristles will get clogged.
That was a fantastic review sir! so..if you want generous ink flow..leave that tube out..otherwise fill it up and place back into pen..I've got a couple of pens and this will save me some money...thanks Teoh!
+Jason Mullins Thank you 😃
Just told the Japanese merchant about the two major problems with these brush pens. Seems the Japanese guys still are not fully aware of the plastic problem Worldwide! Thanks for the amazing video! Made my day!!!
they are, but company needs to make money with ink, they cannot survive with just pen sales
I've refilled "Zig Art & Graphic Twin Brush Pen" (black) with ZIG Sumi ink 60, it works just fine, almost a year passed from refilling
thanks for info, are you still using it?
@@vulnerablerummy sure, brush tip haven`t damaged yet :)
was gifted the very fine variant of pentel fude and being a noob i had to google the basics. this vid came up and answered most of my questions and the comments here are interesting too. thanks!
Glad to know these can be refilled at home. Not paying for these cartridges for as much as i'm using my brush pen
Thank you so much! I have a Kuretake pen, which despite looking pretty much identical, apparently has somewhat different, simpler mechanisms inside (it hasn't that rotating disk ink stopper, unless I somehow broke it in my previous attempts), but otherwise the same procedure works. That outer stopper really just looked like it was a single piece with the barrel, I couldn't believe I never noticed, but it was really a separate piece! My failed dumb attempt was just trying to stick a syringe without removing the inner cartridge before, which I didn't know exist, I thought it had just some sort of sponge inside the outer body/"barrel".
That "works", but the ink flow becomes absolutely torrential and uneven, actually dripping, totally wrong for me. Most of the ink was ending up in the outer cartridge body, more or less like a water brush seems to work (guessing from pictures). And the inner cartridge was not even connected to the brush anymore, but stuck in the rear/upper end of the outer body. Filling the inner "double" cartridge has apparently restored a proper ink flow, more restricted than how it was before, allowing me to get more line control and not worry about ink drops.
So you do stick the syringe into the little barrel inside? He didn't specify exactly what he injected the ink into and I only saw him put the stopper back on so I'm assuming the barrel was inside, but wouldn't you have to reconnect it ?
Wow!! Thank you so much for this very clear and informative video!! I’m definitely going to refill mine when the ink runs out!
You are doing the lord's work here. Thank you so much for your hard work.
I just got myself this fude pen i have been searching for a vid like this thnks!
I actually like the default ink flow, I kinda of like the messy and sometimes un-inked lines.
I do weekly chemo shots and B-12 shots, and my husband mixes e cigarette juice, so we have bought needles before. Sometimes, especially blunt tip, they will give you for free at the pharmacy. Another great place that is cheap is the Tractor Supply Company (also has dirt cheap quality pet food).
thanks! I was wondering if you could refill the cartridge. this answered my question. very helpful
Thank you so much for this video!! I got several of these for the colors but didn't like the quality of the ink, not one bit!! they reactivate with water and it would ruin my work, I got them to line the sketch to color later with watercolors. Now I'm replacing the ink with others that don't reactivate. Thank you!!
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This was so useful! I actually was trying to refill the brush not knowing that there was a seal and made a big mess on my desk😹😹😹
Now I got the answer of how to make this pen brush release more ink. Nice!
This is a bit late to comment but, the "cartridge" body is quite wide, maybe one can make do with an eye dropper (where I live there seems to be a hazzle to get a syringe). I'm going to try when the ink included runs out. I'll try refilling it with Platinum Carbon Black I think.
This will save alot of money over the yrs. Thank you so much!
Informative video! Thank you. I have a question though. What's the difference between this brush pen and the Pentel Pocket brush pen? I already have the Pentel Pocket brush pen and I love using it. But I was thinking of buying this color brush pen as well.
Pocket Brush Pen is waterproof. Color Brush Pen is not waterproof. Color Brush Pen has larger ink capacity and more if you remove all the unnecessary things inside the cartridge.
Oh, thank you so much for the information.
Great video. Just ordered the extra fine and medium. Hopefully this method will definitely extended the life of the pen, and be less wasteful.
hi teoh! ive been refilling my brush pens with black star ink, but i tried switching to rotring since its cheaper but the bottle i bught seemed to have a solid black block at the bottom and clear liquid at the top, is this expired ink? it also isnt waterproof for me, thanks for the inspiring and helpful art content over the years
Yeah ,That's expired ink
@@subhashram7119 yeah it was, thank god i didnt refill any brush pen with it
If you only could have one brush pen, which one would you choose? Thanks for a great channel!
This one because it can hold a lot of ink, and you can squeeze ink out if you need more ink flow
Hi Teoh, I enjoy watching your videos, especially the pen reviews. I would appreciate seeing a review of the Pilot Perera fountain pens. Thanks & keep up the great work, it helps a lot.
+Ed Long I've a text review at www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjngtDS7evQAhXMp48KHTq_APcQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parkablogs.com%2Fpicture%2Freview-pilot-prera-fountain-pen&usg=AFQjCNHTWdHO4_mIZUhlXrd_wtlhNOFVEA&sig2=gHRZbexu18AWI8Ty4nGrIw
very flow ink! great!
I know this is old but I'd like to know how am I supposed to refill it without taking away the small tubes from the inside.
Just using it the way it comes from factory because I tend to use the lack of inkflow to make effects.
You can refill with the inner tube. No problem
Thank you so much for this vid, I have the same exact Japanese pan you have company and everything,and I didn’t want to spend more money buying another ink brush
I Really enjoy all your journals and sketching. Your excellent at it.. great works If I refill Pentel brush pen can I use PIGMENTED INK or just regular ink.. tnx
+J J Kanuck If you want waterproof ink, you can use Rotring. If not any fountain pen ink will do, and you have access to different colours too.
Hi, would you recommend washing your cartridge before filling it with new ink or is that unnecessary? Would I also mess up the ink flow if the cartridge wasn't completely dry? Thank you.
would appreciate a refill tutorial on the Pentel Sign ultra fine brush also
Oh yes, i really need to refill my pentel sign artist brush pen.
Great video, very helpful, thank you so much for all of your content! I've been subscribed and watching your videos for years now, and they are always very informative and a pleasure to watch. Keep up the great work!
Brilliant video! Will this ink also work with a pentel aquash waterbrush or a fountain pen?
Not sure about that. I've a friend who tried and says that it leaks. It's worth a try though, at home, in case it leaks in your pencil case or bag (no!!!).
Hello, what kind of ink can I use when refilling the pen? Is it okay if I use ink for rollers or fountain pen? Thank you for showing how to refill colour brush pen! ❤
Rotring ink, Noodlers Bulletproof Black are two safe options which are also waterproof when dry. If you don't need the ink to be waterproof, you can just go with any fountain pen inks -- inks that mention used for fountain pens
Thank you very much. I was lost as some brush pens are required to be filled with water. Very helpful. God bless.
I always come back to this video whenever I buy a new brush pen, this video's pretty old but I'd like to know if your rotring ink-refilled brush pens are still around or how long did they last?
I'm still using them. They last a long time.
@@teohyc Thank you!! Unfortunately rotring's the only ink that's locally available to me. So glad to know that they last very long. 😁
@@teohyc This is great to know. I thought Rotring would definitely clog my brush pens. I'm still holding out to use Rotring in them despite having some. I'm using Speedball superblack in a pentel waterbrush pen and it hasn't clogged yet, so perhaps Speedball might be an option if rotring is too clogging. I don't know! It's difficult to find both a nonclogging and waterproof ink. Some options i've happened upon are: DeAtrimentis archive, Platinum carbon (though slightly clogging if left unused), and Noodlers (Eel black). Let me know if you discover any other great ones! thanks for your excellent videos Teoh.
great video.. how do you refil the grey colour? is it possibel to dilute black ink?
You can dilute black ink. But not all black inks are suitable for diluting as the gray may not look nice. Once nice gray is Noodlers Lexington Gray.
Hi Teoh! Nicely explained! A very useful hack!
+B Thomas Thanks 😁
thank you i will try this ;D i just ordered the pen for my lineart! ty when it runs out i will try this :D
Very Helpful!! Thank you. I also have a pentel light black perm pigment ink brush pen. It's shaped exactly like the plain water brush but is not see thru and has a light blue cap. I'm wondering if this is the same ink system in the other squeezable brush pens from pentel? Do you have this other light black pen? Wonderful video Teoh, I love watching your reviews. Very high quality.
Big Hugs!!
Reeah.
The Pentel pigment ink brush looks similar so I guess they could be using the same ink system.
+Teoh Yi Chie
I'll check & let u know cuz mine is empty.
-- I took it apart and it's exactly the same ink system in the waterbrush style barrel pens from pentel. Confirmed.
-- I used a really cheap pipette to fill mine just like you did without using the tubes and just replacing the plug.
-- It worked fantastic and I love how the ink flows. Because the pen has a small holding area where the ink fills when you squeeze it b4 it goes out through the brush it is still quite controllable. You really don't need to squeeze it at all while your are using it I found.
Thanks Teoh !! I'm very happy with this and found it wasn't really that messy if I prepared and had a big rag to use.
Big Hugs!! Reeah.
Teoh, you have saved me. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
What about platinum carbon ink ? , i have it i think should work well or not?
I wonder too. Because I tried his method with the rotring ink and it is not a deep black at all, really watery and with a sepia tint
so let me be clear...is the whole top part of the pen a cartridge which you buy for $2.40? Ive never seen a cartridge that is designed as the complete top part (body) of the pen...usually it's just an insert into the pen body. Great tutorial but my old eyes will have difficulty with the process. 2 other things -this pen has reverse threading to open (clockwise opening) - I was tightening the darn thing thinking it was typical anti clockwise opening. The other thing - the cartridges are about USD7 in Australia - crazy. Also when I first start using the pen do I press the cartridge to get the ink flowing or just face the nib downwards and let gravity do the work.
Man I was looking for this hack for ages! Thank you so much!!
So if I wanted to have a slower flow and put those tubes back in would I still fill the black barrel with ink and put ink in the other tube as well?
You just refill it as normal. You don't have to fill the inner small tube.
Very Helpful! Thank you. so ... can refill with other nakim colors?
There should be no problem.
Hi , I have a question. Is it possible use a acrylic ink inside ? Thank you
Thanks for this useful tutorial! is the refill method the same for the Pentel Fude too?
It should be similar
when you reassemble do you put the little part that is in the brush part long part in or long part out?
Genius! I´m about to do this with my Black Pentel Brush Pen, but my worries are that, because of the bigger flow of ink, I will not be able to do fine details. Can I still do strokes like I used to or there will be oceans of ink¿ Thanks.
Ink flow will be controlled. No problem
@@teohyc Thanks!
Hmm, I'm thinking the Aquash pens might be easier to use and refill for my coloured inks. I wanted to make brush pens out of my Dr Ph Martin Bombay coloured inks just as a cheap set of colours for my sketchbooking and doodling. The Aquash pens are not good for lineart stuff because the ink flow is too much but it might be good if I just colour with them. Or I guess I could buy some more pentel pocket brush pens.
Many thanks for your film I have two of then and they went out of paint and now I can refill it .It was great help!!!!
Thank you for sharing your findings, this is super helpful to me
You've got a new subscriber this video was really helpful, thank you !! And I like your other pen reviews
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Thanks, I have refilled my Pentel brush several times now.
Do you think we can refill the Dual Metallic brushes as well?
Not sure about those metallic inks. You can certainly try since the cost of failure is not high
@@teohyc yeah true, guess I am going to try it once they run out, thank you!
Thank you Teoh...for this and all your great videos You are amazing
+jeanmc3 Thanks 😬
Thanks for the video, I was about to destroy one of my aquash brushes with ink 😂
I've sadly made that mistake
+Piefje P I'm not sure if the Rotring Rapidograph can be refilled using the blunt needle. I have a Rapidograph also and the cartridge is refillable as the opening is quite big, about as big compared to the one from the Rotring Isograph. ruclips.net/video/zlpKcVIqQjY/видео.html
I have a question, can I put the pentel art brush ink in my pocket brush pen without any drying issue in the future??
It should work
Helpful video indeed!!!
Will a fountain pen ink be ok as well?
Fountain pen ink is safe
@@teohyc thank you!!!!
The pentel colour brush comes with watersoluble ink. Can I change that out with non-water soluble drawing ink?
You can. Just make sure to get inks that are safe for use in fountain pens. Those inks should have smaller pigments to prevent clogging in pens, and brush pens. Rotring ink is good if you're looking for black ink.
@@teohyc thank you, a separate question - could indian ink ruin traditional brushes (i.e. not the ones with a reservoir)
@@CookingTherapy It depends on the ingredient that's used to make Indian ink. Some Indian ink use shellac and dry to form a protective coat. When used with dip pens, that coating is difficult to even scratch off. If you use it with a brush, it will make the brush hair hard and will be difficult to remove. If you want to use Indian ink with brush, it's best to use a brush specifically with India ink, e.g. don't mix with watercolour. And always clean the brush very thoroughly.
There are other safer waterproof inks compared to India ink.
Thank you, Teoh for posting this! this is just what I need! :D
Hi, have just purchased on of these but I can't seem to get it 'started', i.e. the ink is not flowing to the brush! Is there something I have to do to get it started? Would appreciate your help, thank you.
You have to squeeze the body several times to get the ink to flow.
Thanks for the video. I was wondering how to do this, because it's expencive toy after a while....I want to use watecolor based ink. Just need a needle first.
How does this compare to using ink in a Pentel waterbrush that is designed to be easy to refill?
The Pentel waterbrush is very likely to leak. One reason why there's so many parts in this Colour Brush Pen is to prevent accidental leaks.
Since making the comment, I did a bit of looking into it and it seems people who use the water brush for inking did not mention leaking but they do wash it out right after use, otherwise it clogs. It might be a good way for someone to decide if they like an ink brush or not, since most of us have a bottle of ink lying around and almost everyone who likes watercolours has been lured into trying a water pen. I am gonna try it. The brush pens in Canada are much, much more than what you quote, even considering the USD-CDN exchange rate.
Before I saw this video, I tried a wrong method to refill a similar brush pen (Kuretake), which I guess made it "work" more or less like a water brush (In fact I used it with water for a short while, not that it counts much), with the outer barrel filled with ink, and no stoppers whatsoever. Surprisingly to me, the water flow was more acceptable than the ink flow that way, even though I'd have guessed on the other direction, that water would flow more torrentially and drop more, but somehow it's not the case.
So, I guess that unless the water-brush pens have some other mechanism that restricts a bit the flow, the tendency would be the same, for the brush to become too wet and dripping. Just a few days ago I was actually finding it more appropriate to fill plain brushes and crowquills than to use it as a brush.
But you could always use the water brush pen "properly" anyway, with just black watercolors (or the full color range, of course), or maybe use a highly diluted India ink. My attempt with using just water was actually that, a two runs of extremely diluted India ink, I just filled the barrel with water and didn't wash it, but doodled with what came out of it. Sometimes it was pretty much black, but also descended into light gray.
This is very interesting, thank you for posting about it. My guess is that the water must have a stronger surface tension than the ink. I just shouldn't be lazy... maybe this upcoming Saturday I will stop wondering and find out once and for all.
Did you fill the double barrell that was inside with the syringe ? Or do you have to remove that and fill the barrel to be able to refill it ? Can't really tell from the angle
I removed that barrel since it is unnecessary
So do you take out the stripper with the triangular hole..didn’t see you do that, use tweezers? Thanks Theo.
Once you can take out the tube, the things inside can be easily disassembled by hand.
Just a thought...Maybe you could make the inner tubes ink hole a little bigger? Perhaps that would increase flow, give more options for inks (Sumi, nano/large particle and other more problematic liquid based media) and decrease the risk of leakage when capped?
+Simon Mirfin The hole inside the stopper is actually quite big. Ink should not be able to clog there. Possible clogging area is probably within the grip section behind the brush.
I need help.....I refilled my brush pen and washed it I waited for it to dry but it seems that there was still some water left that I did not notice, but I have already refilled it and as I do a stroke it does not go fully black like last time it seems rather faded a bit, I used india ink as a refillable ink, also its been a day already and the stroke is not fully black but still faded. How can I dry the water out and use the brush pen normally again? do I re-refill it again or will the ink start to flow fully black normally again some time later?
A bit late, but I'm assuming the best bet is to wash it out and refill it with ink. However, I also do not recommend India ink, as it contains particles that will dry out and cause the brush pen to stop working/dry out/have the bristles spread. I recommend any good fountain pen ink.
@@iliketrain10 yeah I found out last month it really is the ink, but overtime it can get a bit ok, by that I mean the ink can be darker and black too, though it does sometimes get grayish....either way I did found an awesome marker from the sharpie brand like last month, its a marker but the tip is a brush, the ink quality is awesome too, Im using it as a substitute until I found a some good refill ink for my brush pen.
Thanks for the info about refilling. I don't know how to refill my brush pen, until I watched this.
Just one more question, what ink is used, is it permanent or not? Thanks.
If you use pigmented (waterproof) ink, there's a chance it might clog. Noodler's Bulletproof Black or Lexington Gray are good. They clog less.
@@teohyc thanks. 😊
Thanks you Teoh, I thought it was sealed shut. Great tutorial.
Is it necessary to clean the small tubes inside the cartridge??
Also can we just put the small tubes back inside without the filling them (because we have already filled the cartridge)??
The small tube inside is actually not necessary. You don’t have to put it inside, so you don’t need to clean it
@@teohyc Yo thanks didn't know you'd reply so fast 😁👍
fantastic video!!! i was looking for something like this! i have a question what ink is better for this kind of pens, any technical ink like for rapidograph pen( rotring, staedtler,dr phil) or yidege?
+Carlos Ramos Those should probably work.
Does Rotrige ink not clog? What type of ink is that? Are there other substitute brands? I would like a water or ink but I'm afraid of the clogging problem
Rotring should be fine. Inks that don’t dry with crusty ink bits around the bottle cap are safe.
Thanks, man, great tutorial!
Hi, did you say take out the stopper at 5:00? I'm wondering because you didn't show actually taking it out. Is it easy to come out? Thank you, such a great idea.
I did not remove that stopper. I don't think removing that will increase or decrease the ink flow. The hole there is quite big already for ink to flow through generously.
thanks again !
Just tried it !! It was amazing ! Thank you
Hi! If you want to use this brush pen as it is, with all the tubes, etc inside it, how do you refill it?Thank you, Dmitry
You can just put the tube back in. But the tube is not really necessary
Thank you for this video! Have you ever had the same problem as me? I have red and black pentel brush. The Black brush dries out very often. I push the black ink and the it flows but later i need to push it again. i need to do it so many times but there's no problem with the red brush, i can't remember the last time i squeezed it.
Could be a problem with the cap that is not secured. I've a black brush pen for months and it still works fine. Or try putting the brush with the tip pointing downwards as you store it away. But ink flow for these Pentel Color Brush Pens aren't very good to begin with.
If I were to use rotring ink on a drawing sketchbook, would it feather if I made large brush strokes?
It should not feather. But paper matters.
hello! thanks for the great video i found it really helpful :) i was just wondering, could use india ink to refill this brush pen?
+Debla India ink may clog. I use Rotring ink
I wonder if you just refill the cartridge using fountain pen ink but without washing the brush will it cause any problems? I am just lazy and want to avoid the mess.😁
You can. Should be no problem.
@@teohyc Thanks, you're the pro.
Very thorough instructions. Thank you.
Thank's man, very helpful video, as always... Have a good day, and good luck!
Thank you. :-)
Thank you for your review.
I found a very good deal on a set of 4 Rotring Rapidograph pens. One thing that is stopping me buying this is the non-refillable cartridges. Do you know weather they really can't be refilled or is there a trick like with these Pentel pens?
(I know the Isograph pens are refillable, but I can't find a good deal on those.)
Thank you.
You can indeed refill the rapidograph cartridges with a syringe and needle. I suspect manufacturers make their cartridges hard to refill so they can sell more cartridges.
Very good instruction video, thank you.
thanks for this video, it's very helpful. I am wondering if you have ever tried the Kuretake Zig CocoIro pen? if so do you know if we can refill that pen with our own ink or do we have to buy the refill tube/pen? because I want to get one but the refills are kind of expensive so I just want to know if there is a way to cut cost on refills. thank you.
I've not tried the CocoIro before. Perhaps in the future.
I don't need waterproof stuff. Can I use Pelikan, Waterman, Parker Quink, Lamy ink? Also I have Kurateke Sumi Ink, can I use it?
Sure you can. Anyway, this is easy to dismantle and clean if anything goes wrong.
Does it matter what ink I can refill the pen with ?