Scientists Discover a Lithium Sulfur Battery Breakthrough on Accident!

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    I love hearing about how things are discovered. Often it’s purely by accident, and well this new battery breakthrough is huge! The Lithium-Sulfur battery has the potential to give EV’s over 1,500 miles of range with the same weight as a 500-mile lithium-ion battery. Plus this accidental discovery gives them over 4000 charge cycles and some other pretty amazing properties. So is this the real deal? How close are they to market, and what could this mean for the future of EVs and Grid Storage? Let's find out as Scientists Just Discovered a 1,500 Mile EV Battery By Accident!
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  • @TwoBitDaVinci
    @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +14

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    • @davefroman4700
      @davefroman4700 2 года назад

      Lithium is earth abundant. Its almost as common as sodium.

    • @annakissed3226
      @annakissed3226 2 года назад +1

      Can I suggest you or your friend Matt from Undecided do a CoVid with The Limiting Factor RUclips channel about the potential of this battery. AS...
      As ever their is a significant difference between a battery that has been demonstrated in a lab & it being manufactured in a Giga Factory.
      But with a density 3× Lithium Ion its use in aircraft & in military systems is where its most likely to be found. If the aircraft structure can be built from Lithium sulphur batteries you have a credible solution for short to medium range aircraft! Admittedly it may be fighting the use of hydrogen enriched ammonia as a fuel

    • @daemenoth
      @daemenoth 2 года назад

      I'm really curious if there is any information of the rate of charge and dispersal of charge as that is also a massive consideration in batteries and in many applications make a bigger difference than density. Even in lithium ion batteries there are differences in this and that makes a change in electric cars like tesla plaid requires the cells its using because they don't have different cells that can provide faster energy to the electric motors.

    • @js0988
      @js0988 2 года назад

      Again, the problem isn't the millage! The problem is the degradation of the batteries! Which is especially problematic for LITHIUM batteries!

    • @annakissed3226
      @annakissed3226 2 года назад

      @@js0988 what degradation? Do not compare the lithium ion batteries used in phones with those used in cars. That's like saying that Formula 1 engines can't drive for more than a few hundred miles & need constant maintenance thus petrol engines can't be used in a mustang!
      Their was some problems with Nissan batteries in the leaf because it didn't have active thermal management of the battery pack, but even Nissan batteries would still get 70% charge after 100,000 miles & thats on a 10 year old cell chemistry. These days cobalt free Lithium Iron (Iron as in steel) may have lower density than high performance Lithium Nickel Cobolt batteries, but they can be easily charged to 90% and are good for 250,000 miles without noticeable degradation. Why not get yourself some education & watch some of the Limiting Factor RUclips channel

  • @SaveMoneySavethePlanet
    @SaveMoneySavethePlanet 2 года назад +199

    Call me crazy, but I’m excited for what this could mean for e bikes! They’re already awesome solutions for the urban population but now they can have more power and more range? Sign me up!

    • @gyneve
      @gyneve 2 года назад +22

      And less weight, which is really important in bikes.

    • @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts
      @LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts 2 года назад +9

      That was my first thought, too. At some point though I have to consider how long I want to sit on a bike seat, but having three times the range would allow me to take some of the strain off my legs.

    • @Meatball2022
      @Meatball2022 2 года назад +2

      Pardon my ignorance but what is the typical ebike range now?

    • @SaveMoneySavethePlanet
      @SaveMoneySavethePlanet 2 года назад +8

      @@LightsOnMultiMediaMindArts I guess I’m more intrigued by the option for more power than range.
      I’m currently working on a video about what qualifies as good bike infrastructure and a key thing (in my opinion) is using larger public transit like buses and trains as the destination.
      So ideally, you’re never on your e bike for too long because you’re just using it for quick hops to better transit. But going 20/25mph for that hop rather than 15mph can make a huge difference!

    • @SaveMoneySavethePlanet
      @SaveMoneySavethePlanet 2 года назад +2

      @@Meatball2022 a lot of the affordable ones are currently 20-30 miles. Like I said in my other reply: now that I think about it a bit more I’m actually more excited about the potential extra power rather than the range increase. Sorry for the confusion!

  • @mattos4203
    @mattos4203 2 года назад +17

    For me, if this works and can be scaled, the really exciting thing would be making Sodium based batteries with 3x energy density. Both Sodium and Sulphur are cheap and plentiful and would more than satisfy the vast majority of personal and transport use. That would save the Lithium Sulphur batteries for more demanding/niche applications.

  • @Lhaffinatu
    @Lhaffinatu 2 года назад +45

    I love hearing about these breakthroughs. Thanks for bringing that to us.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +4

      You bet!

    • @youtubecommenter-on9kd
      @youtubecommenter-on9kd 2 года назад +4

      Would be great if one of these breakthroughs was at production scale instead of somewhere between accident-they-still-need-to-analyze and one-off -prototype

    • @Lhaffinatu
      @Lhaffinatu 2 года назад +7

      @@youtubecommenter-on9kd the greatest thing about so many “breakthrough” announcements is that it indicates there is still a lot of room for improving energy storage capabilities. I remember when lithium ion batteries seemed like such a miracle vs nickel metal hydride. At the time it also seemed like they suddenly became widely adopted in a very short time.

    • @himanshusingh5214
      @himanshusingh5214 2 года назад +2

      It will take many years for this to reach the market.

  • @alanmcconnell7467
    @alanmcconnell7467 2 года назад +7

    Awesome! Love your channel and excited to see the tech developing!

  • @KindergentlerMr.Softbelly
    @KindergentlerMr.Softbelly 2 года назад +3

    I love the new tech update. Thanks for getting this info out so quick. Exciting

  • @thefish5861
    @thefish5861 2 года назад +5

    Love the white lab coat visual. Reminds me of a nutrition supplement infomercial.

  • @mana9013
    @mana9013 2 года назад +30

    What is this? A fair and well researched presentation without all the bs "this is the future" crap? Nice work...hard to find these kind of researched educational videos. I loved how you pointed out all the current problems that is still to be solved.

  • @mrbabyears
    @mrbabyears 2 года назад +12

    They would put a smaller battery in that gets the same battery life of today's battery. Not only that, They would use different battery sizes for different price points. It's the batteries that make EV's more expensive.

    • @briananthony4044
      @briananthony4044 2 года назад +2

      That's what excites me. A battery one third the weight, size and cost for the same range gets my vote. That translates into the vehicle having a lighter structure, using less materials to increase range, better handling, less tyre wear, etc.

    • @mrbabyears
      @mrbabyears 2 года назад +1

      @@briananthony4044 It's coming

    • @twoeightythreez
      @twoeightythreez 2 года назад +1

      The smaller battery will also charge faster. Most ICE cars have a range of around 300mi because thats about the longest most people can sit in a car without stopping anyway. The ones that have greater ranges than that are usually trucks, because when towing, the range is decreased greatly, so to engineer a 300mi range into a truck towing a trailer, the unladen range will be around 600mi.
      If a battery is made that can charge in 5min, people probably would be perfectly OK with even a 150mile range.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 2 года назад

      @@twoeightythreez My truck loaded and a trailer in tow ( ~17,000lbs GVW ) gets up to 16MPG with non-ethanol fuel. 12 with the cheapo stuff. That times a 35 gallon tank means a range of 420 to 560 miles. Sad thing is, empty it gets the same mileage. Around town is more like how many gallons to the mile. 2001 Chevy Silverado Extended Cab Dually with an 8.1L V8, Allison, and a locking 4.10 diff.

  • @JustinPEstrada
    @JustinPEstrada 2 года назад +65

    Incredibly excited for what this means for all tech! Imagine a smart watch that only has to be charged once a week. Electric planes are more feasible. Grid storage will become cheap and easy so goodbye peaker plants.
    I'm excited to think how much closer we are to becoming a fully type 1 civilization.

    • @IronmanV5
      @IronmanV5 2 года назад +5

      Li ion grid storage is already cheaper than peaker plants, only now Tesla & others are going with cheaper LFP.
      These would be the economic death knell for coal, gas, & nuclear.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 2 года назад +7

      @@IronmanV5 Sounds like more unicorn farts to me.
      Show me the numbers...

    • @DynamicHaze
      @DynamicHaze 2 года назад +6

      @@IronmanV5 nuclear and renewable energy need to be used in conjunction to provide us with all of our energy needs.

    • @IronmanV5
      @IronmanV5 2 года назад +5

      @@DynamicHaze Nuclear takes too long and costs too much. And despite all the promises to the contrary costs & build times have only been going up due to screw ups, poor planning, incompetence, and/or corruption during construction.
      Watch Ricky's video on Nuclear for some of the stupid screw ups that have happened with Olkiluoto #3, which was supposed to take 5 years to build but took 17. and Flamanville #3 which is 10 years behind schedule and 4 times the original cost so far.
      It's the same story with Vogtle #3 & 4 in Georgia. The screw ups on that one included irreparably damaging the spent fuel pool while looking for leaks.
      This guy:
      nopig org
      has been keeping track of the numerous screw ups and overruns involved.
      And then there is the aborted V.C. Summers #3 & 4. The companies involved have had fines and restitution levied against them and people have been indicted in federal & state court with some already sent to prison.
      Even the much ballyhooed SMRs are following in the footsteps of their big brothers.
      The NuScale UAMPS project which was supposed to produce first electricity in 2026 has had that date pushed back to 2029.
      Solar & wind have seen costs dropping
      ourworldindata org /cheap-renewables-growth
      And larger capacity & duration iron flow batteries are already up and running in San Diego, and Liquid Air Energy storage facilities, which can store energy for months, are being built in Vermont & several sites in the UK.
      If private companies want to spend their money on nuclear, fine. I hope they succeed.
      But no public money should be wasted on it and should instead be spent on the cheaper, faster to deploy renewables & storage.

    • @peakattic6818
      @peakattic6818 2 года назад +4

      @@IronmanV5 Solar isn’t as reliable as Nuclear fission here. The UK is building solar powerplants but according to farmers it’s on fertilized land and that is wastage of fertilized land which in our times has ever increasing value because of the ever increasing population that needs to be fed. The UK also doesn’t have good sunlight intensity and the best of weather so it would be a waste of time and money to put solar energy there. In the northern hemisphere sunlight intensity decreases a lot in winter times so again solar energy wouldn’t be as effective. Nuclear fission reactors however are much more reliable, produce more on lesser land and have longer lifespans. It is also highly unlikely solar would support heavy industries so that’s another reason why we need conventional powerplants.

  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 2 года назад +2

    While someone has buying trying to buy a social media company, scientists putting in the real work.

  • @seankim2743
    @seankim2743 2 года назад +2

    AWESOME! This would make EV a heck of a lot appealing to so many would-be buyers.

  • @adroper62
    @adroper62 2 года назад

    This type of breakthrough I expected would happen once humanity started to challenge ourselves for better answers and solutions. This is why we evolved into the planet's dominant specie; we push boundaries, and more often than not, accidental discoveries propel revolutions, more so than the expected results.
    This is very encouraging and hopefully the 1st of many beneficial breakthroughs.

  • @christopherbeddoe406
    @christopherbeddoe406 2 года назад +3

    I was reading about this a couple months ago.
    Very exciting if it gets commercialized.
    This Energy density could get us 4 seater electric airplanes with 1000 lb useful load and 3-4 hour duration. Cut the cost of operation for GA aircraft in half.

  • @johnlucich3496
    @johnlucich3496 2 года назад +1

    A well spoken gentleman;well informed . . A Great Man !

  • @nazlegul5031
    @nazlegul5031 Год назад

    I'm MPhil scholar from university of peshawar(Pakistan). Doing work on LiS battery as my MPhil project. Now I'm here to get the concept about it. I ll do my best for society in sha Allah ♥️. To cummercialize LiS.

  • @sailingonasummerbreeze7892
    @sailingonasummerbreeze7892 2 года назад +13

    Really nice presentation! Very exciting news - I hope they can replicate their success!

  • @47solar43
    @47solar43 2 года назад +6

    Wow, this would be amazing. Think about it for semis, RV’s and even airplanes.

    • @nickkacures2304
      @nickkacures2304 2 года назад +1

      It would be awesome and then the electric vehicle naysayers would have to find something else to bitch about instead of range because it would make internal combustion engine vehicles have range anxiety issues

    • @stefanweilhartner4415
      @stefanweilhartner4415 2 года назад +1

      short range airplane flight would be a great deal.

  • @nicklowe1518
    @nicklowe1518 2 года назад +25

    I'm super curious to see how this potential breakthrough and the possibility of silicon anodes increasing the amount of lithium in batteries affects range and capacity.

    • @wakannnai1
      @wakannnai1 2 года назад +3

      Yeah sulfur is cheap. However the big issue here is they use a carbon nanofiber cathode. This costs $6.52 a gram though the method used in the paper requires a somewhat expensive process called chemical vapor deposition. Currently this can be done in a lab and mass manufacturing is a challenge.

  • @KerryO91
    @KerryO91 Год назад +2

    I think the biggest game changer in battery technology will come from the (NDB) Nuclear Diamond battery! The patent was approved in 2021, with a 28,000 year shelf life, never needs to be recharged and isn’t affected by weather/climate change and is far more stable than lithium ion batteries are!

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  Год назад

      Our friend over at Undecided with Matt covered the diamond battery very well.
      ruclips.net/video/VWwKqSzakYU/видео.html

  • @williamkreth
    @williamkreth 2 года назад +2

    Dude your content is always top notch 👌 thank you

  • @IronmanV5
    @IronmanV5 2 года назад +55

    What's exciting about these is that they make electric planes, big rigs, and railroads far more practical & economical.
    These would mean a Mini EV would go from having 115 miles of range to 345 miles and make EV motorcycles far more practical.

    • @gorille151
      @gorille151 2 года назад +6

      Li-ion was a game changer 50years ago. This could be the next game changer.

    • @anothernuther
      @anothernuther 2 года назад +3

      Yay, can’t wait for practical electric motorcycles 🏍!

    • @avstud09
      @avstud09 2 года назад

      what scares me is the retraining of we A&Ps will have to go through to work on 'em....like the idea ...but worrisome...

    • @doctorkvideo
      @doctorkvideo 2 года назад

      Still have to charge them with power from the grid, which mostly currently is coal or oil or natural gas. Or NUCLEAR, or HYDRO which the greenies say ruins watersheds and ecosystems or GEOTHERMAL (which pumps human waste effluents into the ground to get steam in return) With all the energy losses inherent in the grid system. There will NEVER EVER be enough power generation in America for a nation of all electric vehicles. We would have needed to start a new nuclear power plant every 3 WEEKS since ten years ago to keep up with this "amazing transition" that the pResident just spoke of. Not gonna happen. They are driving America into energy POVERTY which will actually kill hundreds of thousands to tens of millions of Americans in the next decade if not way sooner. Do some math. Unless you own your own solar panels in sufficient acreage to power your home and your electric vehicle you are going to be reduced to essential driving just like us gassers. The minute the federal government gets a lock on requiring and accelerating the transition, those FREE charging stations will no longer be free. When it costs as much to charge your electric as it does to buy gas for an equivalent vehicle, will that energy guzzling Tesla still pencil out as a sound ecological decision?

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 2 года назад

      Eh those things need quick turn around time. Time is money so unless fossil fuel shoots up it won't happen anytime soon.
      Someone said use it for cargo ships and I laughed just imagining a cargoship sitting there charging for a week when they literally rarely stop.

  • @GGN-92
    @GGN-92 2 года назад +1

    4000 cycle times. That's impressive. Thanks for the share and take care.

    • @MikeAG333
      @MikeAG333 2 года назад +1

      There isn't the slightest evidence to support the claim, given that not a single battery has been built using this technology.

  • @jonathanbrown2407
    @jonathanbrown2407 2 года назад

    Great video. Thanks for doing all the research.

  • @JordanDay6997
    @JordanDay6997 2 года назад +4

    So, you still need lithium in the cells, and then you need carbon nano fiber to hopefully replicate and create the crystallized sulfur form. Then create the cathodes from it with other secondary elements and scale. Although it sounds great, this would take many years to test and perfect. Thanks for the update

  • @mouldykev
    @mouldykev 2 года назад +1

    How refreshing to see a NoN click bait video title.
    Just that ? Question mark made me actually want to see this one knowing what the oucome was going to be.
    However Lithium Sulfur Batt's do at the moment seem to be the next big thing.
    Great Video this one with no BS.

  • @buzzofftoxicblog791
    @buzzofftoxicblog791 2 года назад +1

    I remember 25 years ago hearing about long-range batteries used in military underwater drowns? Good to see this technology.

    • @Graham_Wideman
      @Graham_Wideman 2 года назад

      I'm sure you meant "drones", but sometimes the typo is comically appropriate :-).

  • @bossman6174
    @bossman6174 2 года назад +1

    I can't wait for a 1500 mile battery. Fantastic news. But I heard so many of those so called breakthroughs that I am getting a little weary about them. But keep the good news coming. It kinda gives me hope.

  • @JD-fk4qq
    @JD-fk4qq 2 года назад +5

    Thought-provoking video! Thank you, Ricky.
    Sidenote, Any mention on charging times ?

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +3

      not in this report, maybe as they progress we can get more information about it!

    • @don.timeless4993
      @don.timeless4993 2 года назад

      Good point, almost forgot about it

  • @static-san
    @static-san 2 года назад +2

    I remember in high school chemistry classes almost 40 years ago learning about how electrochemical cells work and how to figure out the voltage any two likely materials create. But modern cells are so far beyond those simple chemistry lessons so I hope they've been updating them!

    • @briananthony4044
      @briananthony4044 2 года назад

      Wow, far beyond what they taught here in NZ at high school. Hey I did lean if you connect a battery into a circuit you can power a light lol.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 2 года назад

      Same but my last High School chemistry class was 51 years ago. Now days they likely don't even teach the basics. Can you imagine today what would happen if you were allowed to handle live pathogens like we were in advanced Biology classes back then? They would be arresting us as terrorists.

  • @ilmostro16
    @ilmostro16 2 года назад +2

    I don’t understand why so many people mention crazy high insurance costs for their Teslas. Mine went up about only $50 per 6 month coverage period when I switched from an Audi to a Tesla. Using Progressive insurance.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +1

      AAA was terrible, i have progressive now, it was yeah very good. Depends on who you have

  • @Fitforacting
    @Fitforacting 2 года назад +2

    Breakthrough* in reference to the title. Btw Love your channel man!!! 💯💯💯

  • @paramvir27
    @paramvir27 2 года назад +1

    Simply awesome - keep it up ;-)

  • @commerce-usa
    @commerce-usa 2 года назад

    Outstanding presentation. New subscriber!

  • @philebling8855
    @philebling8855 2 года назад +2

    That sodium / sulfur battery manufacturing could use the brine left over from desalination. Win/ win!

  • @MamboB
    @MamboB 2 года назад

    Great Vid!!

  • @simonreeves2017
    @simonreeves2017 2 года назад +2

    Great video and greetings from the U.K.! This is exciting news, just as a modern combustion engine is a marvel compared to that installed in the Ford Model-T, I’m sure that the batteries of the future will become much better as these complex chemistry issues are refined. The future is exciting, let’s hope we can build a better relationship with our beautiful planet in the very near future.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      So masterfully put Simon! Cheers! Planning to visit your great country on my next holiday

  • @joeblack4436
    @joeblack4436 2 года назад +2

    1500 mile makes sense. for extreme use cases.
    For most cars 500mile would be more than enough, and then the performance would drastically improve due to lower vehicle weight.
    There'll be a sweet spot.

    • @stefanweilhartner4415
      @stefanweilhartner4415 2 года назад

      for cars it practically lowers cost but 500m miles can be already achieved today.
      however, for busses and trucks this is an important step. and even for trains when you don't have pieces of tracks with electric support.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      well said Stefan!

    • @joeblack4436
      @joeblack4436 2 года назад +2

      @@stefanweilhartner4415 Yup. For such use cases it makes sense.
      I think for the majority of private vehicles it would not just be a cost improvement. A 150-200kg'ish battery with the capacity of a current 500kg battery will already significantly increase the range. Possibly by as much as 10-20%. Maybe more. Weight matters after all. That's like having 2 passengers vs 5. So we may well see EVs with 500mile range, which get 600 miles with the same battery capacity, because the weight of the battery is so significantly reduced.
      Tire and other mechanical maintenance can also be significantly reduced due to lower weight.

    • @stefanweilhartner4415
      @stefanweilhartner4415 2 года назад +2

      @@joeblack4436 10% improvement for sure.
      and it opens other possibilities too. you can reduce the battery compartment in height which might be interesting for sports cars like the MX5/Miata. I think it is very difficult to make an MX5/Miata with current battery tech without getting a higher underfloor that contains the batteries. i don't know how tesla will do it for their Roadster. their 4680 cells with approx. 296Wh/kg are the highest cells they have. if they want the battery floor thinner, they have to align them horizontally.

  • @VonSpud
    @VonSpud 2 года назад +3

    Great overview, very professional.
    Thanks.
    I can see producers of EVs simply installing much smaller batteries to allow slightly more range and greatly reduced weight and cost.
    People will forget that they could have great range instead focusing on cost instead.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +3

      Yah I love that all this research is happening! Exciting times for sure

    • @VonSpud
      @VonSpud 2 года назад +2

      @William Arrington still be good to have a choice. Where I live, a trip to the city is 250 miles round trip. A trip to our kids city is over 430 miles. (Each way)

    • @toddjohnson7572
      @toddjohnson7572 2 года назад +1

      I would see just different types of EVs within the same brand. For those who go on huge long road trips (usually for work) -- VS people who work from home and live in the city and don't have to drive much where current range on good EVs is more than just fine.

    • @VonSpud
      @VonSpud 2 года назад +2

      @William Arrington I was thinking Hybrid too. Watched a few reviews on that tech. They are mostly great but expensive to repair when something eventually goes wrong.

  • @nick191088
    @nick191088 2 года назад +1

    What is that thumbnail? If there was a sportscar EV that looked like that I would buy it in a heartbeat!

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      It's a mock of of a Tesla Roaster, in cyber form... so cool right? i'm with you

  • @GarryAReed
    @GarryAReed 2 года назад

    Thanks, great program ! 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Zindo.Majesty.HisMajesty
    @Zindo.Majesty.HisMajesty 2 года назад +3

    If I had a dollar for every breakthrough battery upload I could afford a Tesla.

    • @Graham_Wideman
      @Graham_Wideman 2 года назад

      Someone needs to find a way to turn RUclips videos into energy...

  • @Huxley555
    @Huxley555 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic news, like you say they just need to figure out the why's and how to's.
    Obviously we won't be seeing it for a while, being in a lab environment means many hurdles after need to be met.
    But it's great knowing sulfur batteries have finally been discovered, we are looking at good times ahead once this goes through 👍

  • @fenrirgg
    @fenrirgg 2 года назад +3

    Wow, I hope this becomes a thing soon.
    I know Canada has a huge mega giant reserve of Sulfur in storage doing nothing, so the Sulfur wouldn't even be needed to be mined, it is already available for whatever use humanity could want it for!

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 2 года назад

      30 years from now.
      So many breakthroughs. I need to see it cheap and easy to scale.
      Even if it's true but doesn't reach that criteria? It can be used for niche applications at least.

  • @hisbygrace2
    @hisbygrace2 2 года назад

    You were born for this. Love your insight!!!!

  • @user-vq4mt4zd4e
    @user-vq4mt4zd4e 2 года назад

    great content, thanks

  • @tfp0052
    @tfp0052 2 года назад

    Now, this just might make EV practical!

  • @grasshopperranch9778
    @grasshopperranch9778 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762
    @projectw.a.a.p.f.t.a.d7762 2 года назад

    The thumbnail pic reminded me of a El Camino stole cyber truck. Looked great in my opinion!!!

  • @phillipravas6291
    @phillipravas6291 2 года назад

    Keep discovering better things 👍👏

  • @beecool2070
    @beecool2070 Год назад +1

    the escaping of polysulfide intermediates (produced during the redox reaction process) from the cathode structure is the primary reason for rapid capacity fading.
    Lithium ion battery doesn't degrade as easily as lithium sulfur overtime.

  • @thomascharlton8545
    @thomascharlton8545 2 года назад

    Thanks,
    Wow, not just another incremental improvement but potential game changer. Sure hope they can get this or something equivalent operational. Could make electric aircraft actually practical.
    Thanks for helping all to see and understand this Sulfur development.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад +1

      You Bet Thomas, I hope that team makes some major breakthroughs!

  • @MM-mo9hn
    @MM-mo9hn 2 года назад +12

    You should have included how much cobalt goes into a battery vs how much sulphur so that the dollars per mt made more sense. If its 112,000 per mt of cobalt but that can do X amount of batteries then it makes it hard to compare to the sulphur price per battery.

    • @hi-gf5yl
      @hi-gf5yl 2 года назад

      A sulfur battery is lighter than an equivalent sized cobalt battery so a sulfur battery is still cheaper.

  • @samlebon9884
    @samlebon9884 2 года назад +1

    Range anxiety out, back pain in. Who the hell is going to drive for 1500 miles nonstop?

  • @lordchickenhawk
    @lordchickenhawk 2 года назад +2

    The mention of sodium/sulpher is also very interesting. If that turns out to be workable the material supply problems of lithium evaporate. Sodium is as common as salt.

  • @nightshadehelis9821
    @nightshadehelis9821 2 года назад +3

    This is so damn awesome and makes me so optimistic and excited for the future, but holy crap would I be pissed if I had just purchased a new Tesla that got 280 miles of range and then they came out with this.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      That’s always the risk! But don’t worry new batteries take like 5-10 years to produce reliably

  • @robinpettit7827
    @robinpettit7827 2 года назад

    I recently read a scientific article on Lithium Sulfur battery and the fortuitous finding that is enabling this potential new battery technology.

  • @Gypsy2057
    @Gypsy2057 2 года назад +1

    Talk to me when they are available for less than $50/Kwhr. So many times we've been teased about some great breakthrough but then nothing happens. The reason I believe $50/Kwhr is a breakthrough point is that would make a 100 Kwhr battery ~ $5,000 or roughly the cost of the motor in an ICE. A long range 400 + mile EV for the cost of an equivalent gas car and only the hard core will want to use gas.

  • @donaldduck5731
    @donaldduck5731 2 года назад

    Seams like the holy grail of battery technology.

  • @Abyss-Will
    @Abyss-Will 2 года назад +1

    4:10 that insurance price is because tesla charges ridiculous prices for any kind of repair.
    A minor fender bender? Just a scratched bumper?
    They can charge you 9k to replace a bumper and it's gonna take them 2 months so yeah, any insurance that has to pay that and maybe even give you a rent car while your tesla is two months out of service waiting for the world's most expensive bumper is going to try to charge a lot to every tesla user.

  • @MrArtist7777
    @MrArtist7777 2 года назад

    Exciting news, hope it comes to fruition

  • @eamonstack4139
    @eamonstack4139 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting indeed - Li-S has huge potential but it is still at development stage. Let's hope some of this magic can make it to production retaining some cost and performance benefits. Thanks

  • @wayland7150
    @wayland7150 2 года назад +3

    How about making the battery a bit smaller? The lighter weight would increase range and performance.

  • @dankosek2355
    @dankosek2355 2 года назад +3

    Any info on the weight of a similar battery size? Also, physical size of these batteries versus Li-ion? Thanks.

    • @jeremysun7365
      @jeremysun7365 2 года назад

      in short, no, because it is not yet commercial. commercial usually means that they have the micronization done and only then would you know the size of the battery.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 2 года назад

    Yes, more research needed

  • @cpoomail
    @cpoomail 2 года назад +1

    I always lol at stock footage of "scientists" ... That being said thanks for providing quality info... Hopefully we as a species will benefit from these energy technologies in our lifetime ...

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      lol i hear you, we have limited b-roll assets! lol.. .but yeah man I'm totally with you, I think we're going to have some epic breakthroughs in the next 10 years... the future is bright brother... cheers

  • @beelzebobtheinnocent1659
    @beelzebobtheinnocent1659 2 года назад

    still waiting for miracle breakthrough tech to actually be available , I have seen em all on youtube for the last 10 years

  • @richarda996
    @richarda996 2 года назад

    A honest review, thank you.

  • @saumyacow4435
    @saumyacow4435 2 года назад +2

    We don't need 5 times the range.. we need 1/5th the price.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 2 года назад +1

    Well what the hell is the hangup ??? I want one for sure.

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 2 года назад +3

    Well, not grid storage unless you're tight on space. You've already covered the company ESS with Iron redux flow batteries, and that's certainly the best solution for where space is abundant like where wind and solar farms are. And more than anything else, their tech needs to be advocated because it is THE most earth friendly grid storage from everything I've seen so far.
    But yes for something like a powerwall this would be much better than Li-Ion.
    I think ESS is getting a slow start because of how much Tesla competes in grid storage, and every time Tesla gets a new contract for grid storage, I see the cyber truck being delayed another month.
    I've always believed that by 2030 there will be multiple battery techs on the market which are a good jump over what we have right now due to the sheer volume of R&D in battery tech. It was bound to happen and yes I think any issues will be solved that is in the way of BEV being the CLEAR choice for driving in every regard, other than the noise and pollution. They'll be cheaper to manufacture and cost less than ICEV and range anxiety will be SO 2020. It already costs less to manufacture BEV over ICEV in China.

    • @don.timeless4993
      @don.timeless4993 2 года назад

      I agree with you & I support companies like ESS & Ambri. But the price is the governor. Factors like product cost, environment friendly materials & high efficiency will make electricity generated from renewable to be cheaper. So if this tech is going to be better in those factors for the grid scale storage it's rationally to support monoclinic sulfur batteries than the iron flow batteries! vice versa

  • @philborer877
    @philborer877 2 года назад +3

    Such exciting info. It would be nice to know how much longer they have to research before they can start scaling it. Time is of the essence on our fragile planet .
    Thanks Ricky great material.

    • @someonethatwatchesyoutube2953
      @someonethatwatchesyoutube2953 2 года назад +3

      We’re fragile. The earth isn’t.
      It’ll recover just fine once we’re gone.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 2 года назад

      Honestly, I think to late. We will go over in the limit in 2025 which was needed to keep us on track to be below 1,5 degrees by 2030.
      Humanity will survive, the planet will restore itself. It's just gonna be terrible place to life, society as we know it won't remain.

    • @MikeAG333
      @MikeAG333 2 года назад +2

      Scaling it? They haven't made a single battery of any size at all yet. Not one. Scaling something that doesn't exist is the equivalent of multiplying by zero.

    • @gigakrait5648
      @gigakrait5648 2 года назад

      @@MikeAG333 Isn't it fun listening to these guys with zero critical thinking skills?

    • @MikeAG333
      @MikeAG333 2 года назад

      @@gigakrait5648 Fun? I guess so. It's a bit scary, though, to think that so many people are incapable of thinking.

  • @yoppindia
    @yoppindia 2 года назад +3

    I think the main problem is creating the carbon nano structure used to make this rare kind of sulphur structure.

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 2 года назад

    Interesting, Thank You. I hope they work

  • @m9078jk3
    @m9078jk3 2 года назад +1

    I'd sure like this instead for my electric bikes so I could get 3 times the range that I currently can get. That would be fantastic

  • @mohavie2360
    @mohavie2360 2 года назад

    you put out some really good stuff sir.. where can someone invest in a company that is producing/testing this product? thanks for the education.

  • @johnlucich3496
    @johnlucich3496 2 года назад

    Sir , just KEEP ON KEEPIN ON !

  • @mdc4runner
    @mdc4runner 2 года назад

    Proud Drexel engineering alum here!

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra 2 года назад

    Scientist say I'm huge in japan. That scientist is me. I site my own source. I am winning.

  • @ronniechristie5599
    @ronniechristie5599 2 года назад

    Very Nice Information. We Need This To Get Rid of Gas ⛽️. Very Good Review 🍀😋🙏

  • @CMB21497
    @CMB21497 2 года назад

    RUclips is full of these incredible "Break Throughs". I am still waiting for any of them to actually come to fruition.

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 2 года назад +2

    If you go from Lithium Ion to Lithium sulfate, you still need Lithium right? The how does this help with limited Lithium supply?

    • @allaroundgaming100
      @allaroundgaming100 2 года назад

      There is enough raw lithium in the state of Nevada to make a tesla for every American. It's all about labor and government bs.

    • @israc2001
      @israc2001 2 года назад

      Scarcity isn't the only reason for innovation. There are other potential benefits such as high energy density and a longer battery life. I agree that lithium supply is limited but, it ain't depleting any soon. By then we'll have an alternative.

  • @piscitellinicholas5240
    @piscitellinicholas5240 2 года назад +1

    You won't see this come out for many years if you see it at all

  • @leviisrael3752
    @leviisrael3752 2 года назад

    an Ev enthusiast song to the ears

  • @getawaydreamer2724
    @getawaydreamer2724 2 года назад

    Now this is the future!

  • @walkeren
    @walkeren 2 года назад +1

    Oh wow!

  • @dirkkarmel5209
    @dirkkarmel5209 2 года назад

    Sulfur; Sulfur; Sulfur !
    As a major export/import harbour.,
    this is great news for our Sulfur supply.
    Not only in Batteries,
    but in transporting of the materials.

    • @dirkkarmel5209
      @dirkkarmel5209 2 года назад

      IF you only need to repeat the process,
      there are many analysts available to help.
      Even if the result was caused by a butterfly on a window, they could identify the resulting changes to the experiment.

  • @harveytheparaglidingchaser7039
    @harveytheparaglidingchaser7039 2 года назад

    Exciting.... I'll keep an eye out for the Li- S battery.

  • @aquaticbiologyforanglers
    @aquaticbiologyforanglers Месяц назад

    Good update. I have hope.

  • @stanleyth2
    @stanleyth2 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @shaunhall960
    @shaunhall960 2 года назад

    Way cool! Science is amazing.

  • @bearup1612
    @bearup1612 2 года назад

    I will believe it when I see it on the shelf for sale

  • @yeetzi3585
    @yeetzi3585 Год назад +1

    Im super excited to see battery technology evolve. With the batterys we currently have we cant put them into good use for example electric planes but with new technology we could make electric planes and all that

  • @geofferyromany4634
    @geofferyromany4634 2 года назад

    Moving away from Li is in my opinion very crucial to the future. I like the concept of NaS battery.

  • @GeoFry3
    @GeoFry3 2 года назад

    Most novel chemical research is "accidental". The research is intentional in the sense that they are looking in specific areas based on known theories, but it does take a lot of trial-and-error to come up with an industrial process to work in different conditions.

  • @Macgyver46
    @Macgyver46 2 года назад +1

    Would love to be 30 yrs younger and able to enjoy where tech is headed. By the time batteries improve I'll be to old to care.

    • @mexifry222
      @mexifry222 2 года назад

      What would you have gained? You've enjoyed a life with great combustion advancements and cars in general becoming secondary homes on wheels. You won't miss out on much.
      Getting someone from point A to point B 🙂

  • @TedToal_TedToal
    @TedToal_TedToal 2 года назад +2

    Exciting possibility for the future. But I wish you and others who produce these videos about new battery breakthroughs would not hype them up so much so that you feel, when you watch the video, that we’ve now made a new discovery and that now our battery problems are over, only to be told at the very end of the video that that’s not the case.

    • @gigakrait5648
      @gigakrait5648 2 года назад +1

      Yup exactly. It's click bait and it's funny how many comments you read here of the excitement of this when nothing at all has been accomplished and won't be for decades. People living in la la land hoping and praying that this is just around the corner when it's not. Just like hydrogen fuel, solid state batteries, etc.

    • @TwoBitDaVinci
      @TwoBitDaVinci  2 года назад

      GigaKrait, you should watch videos that excite you. For some people the great work happening by brilliant scientists around the world is of interest. If that's not you, I'd recommend some other channel.

    • @gigakrait5648
      @gigakrait5648 2 года назад

      @@TwoBitDaVinci No doubt there is some good work going on around the world, but being deceptive as you are is not something to be proud of. The proliferation of channels on YT now that are solely for clicks is mind boggling. Ones exactly like yours. Videos like this should be demonetized for misleading content and/or taken down entirely.

  • @MyMy-tv7fd
    @MyMy-tv7fd 2 года назад +1

    good vid

  • @rickpontificates3406
    @rickpontificates3406 2 года назад

    "THIS IS GREAT... Well, not exactly"...
    "Now, THIS IS TRULY GREAT... Sort of"
    I'm on a techno rollercoaster ride

  • @Big.Ron1
    @Big.Ron1 2 года назад

    This would be great in a hybrid as well. Triple the range for any given hybrid when in electric mode. My guess is they could also do some electronic wizardry and increase the short term power levels for when they are in ice and electric simultaneously giving more power to assist the ice. One can hope this all pans out. Thank you.