Collision 2023 - Melee - Zain (Marth) VS Jmook (Sheik) - Grand Finals
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I'm more convinced than ever before that Melee is an anime
Without reading your comment, I shared this vid to some friends saying something similar. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought this was very anime 😅
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
Someone needs to make a melee anime one day, I'll try
its the best fighting game that gives you the most control over your character when you are able to move freely, this allows for more freedom of expression rather than fixed cookie cutter combos over n over
Episode 1083
The split chants at 21:30 were unreal
Wwe fans know this with John Cena
genuinely surreal
It was electric in the venue, super cool thing to be a part of. I almost wish I took a video on my phone
lol thats awesome
Im proud to say I was a part of those chants (for Jmook)
Jmook reminds me so much of Armada. Consistent combo game, rarely overextends, very fast,great mental, clutch and great sportsmanship.
A lot of this applies to Zain as well. Both these guys are incredible competitors. Super happy they are at the top of melee rn
@@MrSlowpez10 yeah true haha He described Zain
@@quantum_leap786 zain isn't clutch tbh but besides that
both specks of dust compared to armada
@@youtubeonly520armada wasn't even playing the same game lol.
jmook won a major from loser's side before zain did. and he did it in the most dramatic way possible. 3-0 bracket reset into a reverse 3-0 to take the whole tourney. JCLUTCH
Sheik crouched under 3 of Marth's attacks on that dreamland game, and that actually made a huge difference.
When crouch infront of marth’s get up attack it will always whiff
I hate both of these character but that shit pissed me off lol.
Being in the crowd for this is something I will never forget, the crowd was insane, especially around game 3 of the reset where the split chant started (lets go Jmook!)
Man that had to be one of the greatest melee sets ever
Armada:year of second places
Jmook:year of second places
Armada:Breaks through and wins genesis
Jmook:Breaks through and wins genesis
Armada:domination
Jmook:?
Alright let's be real, there's never gonna be another Armada.
@@repeatthat-hy7ol just like in speedrunning/other fighting games, you can never say never
@@TheEMASSEY Out of anyone playing right now, if anyone could become something like "the next Armada" it's only Jmook, especially if he keeps up a clean record of only dropping sets to other top 5-6 players while winning majors. He'll probably also have to show he's figured out Puff/Hbox. And he'd have to keep this up for several years which is incredibly hard and part of what makes Armada stand out above everyone else. We'll see!
@@repeatthat-hy7ol People before Armada probably thought nobody would ever be as dominant as Ken. I mean, at this point the only player I’m convinced will never be surpassed is Mang0 and his accolades and longevity, unless the Melee Scene can survive another 15 years, which I doubt. Dominance-wise, there will always be a statistical probability, as I do see at least 5 more years of life for Melee.
@@Supertaldo916 Armada literally only lost to a total of 12 players in his entire, decade-long career and placed no worse than 5th in all the events he attended. I'd reckon that being a top 5 player for 16 years like Mang0 has is still more possible to emulate than all the crazy high bars that Armada set.
This was so amazing to watch live. I am really hoping to see jmook's games against spark and axe as I missed them.
So happy for Jmook, From LOSERS side too. He's only been improving and climbing since the breakout genesis performance and every match of his has been so hype to watch. CONGRATS JMOOK!
Jmook now up 7-4 lifetime and 3-0 this year on 2022's best player
And this is like, the 3rd time Jmook reverse 3-0ed him
It’s looking like Jmook’s year, and I’m here for it. Imma need Hbox to step up and stop losing to foxes though, cause I wanna see if Jmook’s ready to slay his bracket demon.
Also, has Zain EVER won in a reset grands before? I wanna see him succeed, but it feels like he might be the least clutch top player ever when the stakes are highest.
No
I think he's done it once back in 2021, with SCL S2W4. Mango won the first set in game 5, and then Zain won 3-0 in the second set. He also won a reset vs S2J at Four Loko Fight Night in 2021, though that was from a loser's run. But it's usually tough when Zain gets sent to losers or reset :(
It's not foxes, its just moky lmao
@@yankees2864 and ibdw, Leffen, and Plup
Has Zain ever won on FD before?
I was LOSING MY MIND during this match. This is a grand finals for the ages
Melee finally feels like it's entering the era of neutral. Sheik CCing dtilt for the 46% combo, Marth cold up-B for the kill, commentators saying "that's Safe!?" on Sheik uptilt. Melee's never been this fast nor technical before, but I can finally start to connect the dots to other fighting games.
Ye
another big win for Jmook and for Sheik. great start to the year for him, similar to how Zain started 2022 by winning Genesis and Pound
Why did you have to have the top comment and spoil 😢
@@lachlanlaan2720 true
Zain overcame 1 of his bracket demons. Now he has to do another. He'll be #1 again. But i love living in a timeline where Jmook is #1. Even if he hasn't been playing Hbox lol.
Jmook owes Moky a cut. JK, Jmook playing crazy.
Shiek grabbing the ledge in time with the music: 19:42
2005 Melee - Marth vs Sheik GFs. 2015 Melee - Fox vs Fox GFs. 2023 Melee - Marth vs Sheik GFs. What a game.
And here I was thinking Cody's rise to prominence was absurdly quick
Jmook is a speedrunner
That was one of the greatest sets I've ever seen! What a time to be a Melee fan!
Kid is for real, greatest Sheik gameplay ever. Period.
I love jmook, but watching zain absolutely fold to this dude on the regular Hurts my soul, it's honestly like clockwork
Eh, Zain beat him at Shine and Big House, and he'll do it again.
@@ste_e_p I think jmook is up on him 7-4 lifetime
@@JuiceLeeLLC Yes, that sounds correct.
@@ste_e_p it might just be jmooks year
@@JuiceLeeLLC Could be! Might depend on how often he meets Hbox.
Can’t help but feel like FD for the fourth time was a mistake
The true quintessential Melee matchup is Marth Sheik
So happy for Jmook! So well deserved! People like this can really show the potential of many different characters
been watching melee a long time, it's so exciting having more than 5 players that beat everyone they play.
the raw talent and dedication at the top level is nuts
SHED ACTUAL TEARS OF JOY WATCHING THIS IT MOVED ME IN WAYS ONLY MY FAVORITE ART CAN
He really just kept going FD man
The FD picks #3 and #4 actually made me sad
Jmook mindset completely changed this tournament.
In general he had more fun, was still committed to the drive of needing to win, but didn't spiral when he had some harsh SDs or Zain pulled out a quick on one him. He smiled more and stressed less. Finding that balance of tournament and couch when you're playing a tournament is huge and it looks to me like jmook found that this tournament. Interested in seeing more now. He's growing a lot
Amazing Event, shoutout to all the players and Casters, and even the production aswell, the replays midgame were a treat!
Oh my god the alternating Zain/Jmook chants were incredible. Moments like that is what makes melee so great.
I’m beyond thrilled that these are the two players during it out at the top
The Marth killer edgeguard at 7:37 is disgustingly fast, especially off a reversal
This series was INSANE. Such great play from both players. Zain is a beast and Jmook is a hero!
Great set from Jmook and Zain 🎉 Watching them play is just as exciting as a fox v falco set. The amount of talent, passion and respect in this set is a showcase of the wonderful melee community. Congrats to Jmook 🙏🏼
I love the mini replay mid match, next level
This is honestly my favorite Grand Finals in recent memory. The level of melee here is unreal
Wow melee has never been played at a higher level than the last few years of Zain vs Jmook & Zain vs Mang0 so many classic grand finals
Jmook crouch cancelling at 190% and 160% is such massive balls I can't even begin to imagine.
melee is so fucking sick. this game will never die
Well after seeing Jmook win from winners and losers side consecutively with solo sheik, there's only one thing for us to say.
There is so much more melee to be played
It'll be interesting to see if Zain sticks to FD next time they play
The needle trap at 8:01 is so good, messed up Zains L cancel time enough to avoid the punish.
Zain fan here, mannn.
Jmook really is the protagonist
Edge cancel bair from Zain was an incredible sequence. Unbelievable.
Melee is actually immortal wtf. jmook is insane… the way he just stood in place and waited for the air dodge to follow up with grab. I mean wtf??
grats to winner, damn marth v sheik is tough. gotta work so hard for each stock.
This is the best melee I’ve ever seen in person
Oh my Jgod... is this the best set in melee history?
amazing grand finals
This match pretty much solidified to me that the next generation of talent is here.
With the gods leaving us we now have titans.
I love how the top 5 all main different characters.
Damn that was a sick set
Zain vs Jmook is modern day Mango vs Armada
These two were born to play each other.
set of the year.. so far. "there is so much more melee to be played"- a drunk once said
Incredible stubbornness/tunnel vision to counterpick FD a fourth time after losing there 3x in a row. Zain was playing so much better with platforms. Jmook thrives on tech chasing on flat surfaces like FD. Platforms seemed to disrupt his tech chasing and get Zain out of disadvantage sooner. I think battlefield, yoshi's, or FOD would have all been great.
There is so much more melee to be played
We're in a timeline where players like Zain, Jmook, Cody, and Amsa are fighting for the top. What a time for Melee, this game lives forever.
Is it me, or does zain need someone like captain crunch to help him improve in clutch situations? I feel like he’s very frequently ahead and then crumbles under pressure
The commentary in that first game had me laughing so hard, "He dropped his wallet?" 😆 comment had me laughing so hard alongside the, "and it's great... for jmook? yeah it's great for jmook." 😆 I got to admit his Sheik game is insane, there are so many innovations and when he is on point with his ledge trap it's actually ridiculous how quick he can make those decisions to just pick the right move it's ridiculous how quick he decides and executes.
These two are my new favorite Matchup, their sets are always awesome! Well deserved birthday W with the boys for Jmook😄
This Sheik is a blast to watch!
Dude please I hope they never do those midgame window clips again, kinda distracting in my opinion
nah i like em
Agreed. There’s a way to do it but it was just distracting
From Jmook to Jcook, because he cooked up Zain with a regular and reverse 3-0
Amazing set
how will this affect Lebron's legacy?
I bet he cried watching this set
They went off!
Zain is gonna now need to have a pocket Icys.
28:06 MANGO MANGO MANGO
degens
3-0 & reverse 3-0! I love you Jmook
HOLY FUCK J-GOD
At about 19:00
Zain is unbeatable in this mode
so good
HMW SO BASED AT 2:08
37:12 - 37:48
lets go mang0 lmaaao
i want what theyre having
13:14
Can someone explain the ledge interaction where Zain recovers on to stage, and Jmook was slow on the ledge drop fair several times--there's no way he was simply too slow to react right? He must've been looking for something else, like a dair opportunity/checking to see if Zain grabbed ledge?
He was reading zain fading back to ledge and holding on so zain wouldn't be able to grab ledge. He got it at as the first kill of the set but zain wasn't giving it to him afterwards
He’s trying to reverse hit fair, it’s way harder to hit with sheik compared to falcon so I assume jmook has a specific set up
Ahh, both of those sound likely, that makes way more sense than him simply being slow. Thanks guys!
When Marth lands from his up b, he’ll go into a slight crouch and then stand animation before being actionable. Jmook was waiting for the stand animation in order to reliably land the reverse fair. It’s a very tight window of time for a very tight reverse hit box. Not surprised he mistimed it a few times.
why did people stop calling zain by how he said its pronounced? zain (zahn)
I don’t think there was a single bracket reset in all of 2022 was there?
HBox reset bracket vs Jmook at Wavedash 2022 and Plup reset bracket vs Magi at CEO 2022. There may have been another reset but it’s not coming to mind atm
Hbox vs amsa at scuffed world tour
There were 4 bracket resets last year.
Hbox reset grands 3 times, winning twice: vs Jmook at Wavedash 2022(won), vs Plup at Riptide 2022(won), and vs aMSa at Scuffed World Tour(lost). Plup reset grands vs Magi at CEO 2022 and won.
Damn I really was missing a lot of them huh😂
The falling upair > dj upair on side plat punish from jmook is new but how is it better than fairing marth off stage or even waveland grabbing? Is it bc of slideoff?
Credits at the end are pretty dope
What is the outro music? Sounds so damn familiar!
Damn, Zain really is the anti-clutch god. My man has the glassiest of glass chins. He either steam rolls everyone and wins GFs 3-0, or he gets rekt with a reset and reverse’d 3-0. There is no in between. Hope it doesn’t get in his head too much.
he definitely needs to work on it. He has had his share of reverse 3-0's (against axe most famously). and i guess you could argue he almost reverse 3-0'd in the reset haha. But yeah, for the best player in the world he does seem to fall apart when losing a bit too often.
My Sheik is humbled or overjoyed over this match. Edit-the people that stayed seated after Jmook won the tournament are Zain boys.
Jmook is attractive, and good at the game. 😂 jmook fan
what a set, love watching both of these guys play, i was cheering for both of them at different points of the set haha. though lately i have felt really oppressed by marth players on slippi.. so i'm actually glad to see marth lose.
Always love watching Collision, absolutely despise how their RUclips team handles uploads.
Living in a world where the best player in the world is a solo sheik! who'da thought it.
What does everyone think Zain (and marth) can do to tip the scales of this match up a bit? I'm not expert but the main problems marth has here is
1. killing
2. getting out of the corner/off the ledge.
With number 2, i really don't have any answers. But with no 1, is there nothing further to be explored with down smash? I noticed zain is not using it all all. what about up-tilt? including reverse tipper and those crazy angles it can send you.
Zeldas best move is down B
Sheiks best move is down
As long as there isn't a jmook check or counter he'll continue to easily win, it's like what Axe was to Zain, Zain was being written to always face Axe and lose, most of the time twice. And now as long as hbox isn't there to cheese jmook he'll continue to win stuff
You always manage to add "Hbox" and "cheese" in every comment you type lmao.
Nobody is cheesing these top players. If someone is grtting cheesed, it is entirely their fault for falling for it
i think i've watched all their sets. when is hbox cheesing him?
Cheese? Where in their sets did he do that?
Puff is just a tough matchup for Sheik.
Shit guys I think we got Jabaited
I cant be the only one that thinks marth is a cheese character right? Ive been beaten by a lot of marths and it doesnt seem to take incredible skill. of course at the upper levels of competition it does but at lower levels his range is just op. Basically exist anywhere on a stage and he can hit you within one jump and outrange any of your direct attacks
22:19
196% !?
Big Dog shoulda tried Yoshi’s
Wut a set
Jmook GOD! 👏🏽
Health and meditation > sweaty nerds