The original bombs fell in October 2077. We are 219 years after the fact based on the time-skip given to us so it should be 2296 currently. The games all took place before the show in the Fallout timeline. @TBR Schmitt
The moment when Lucy grabs the flag and has a look at it will never fail to give me massive goosebumbs. the music setting in at this moment is the videogame main theme
The poster @4:32 "A Man and His Dog" is reference to a movie from 1975 call "A Boy and His Dog" starring Don Johnson that the creators of the Fallout games have credited as an inspiration.
Maximus' befuddled 'What is this?' kills me every time I see it, it's such a great line delivery. I've been using it at work ever since seeing this episode. 😂
Hey Dan, kudos to you for leaving the blunders in the edit. I'm a podcaster and it's amazing how you can say the same key phrases many times and then suddenly your brain just WON'T recall them. Honestly, I like seeing the little errors, it makes you more relatable. Thanks for all your hard work.
Cooper mentioned in Ep.1 when talking to his daughter that he had been a Marine. Seeing as he confirms when talking to Bud after filming the vault ad that he had worn T-45 power armor, he would’ve served in the still active Sino-American War that had been going on since Winter 2066 until the bombs dropped on October 23, 2077. The military had only just began using the T-51 armor in June 2076, so safe to say Cooper might’ve served at the beginning of the war. Probably served his 4 years and then ended up getting into acting in Hollywood. 🎬
It's been so cool to watch you both grow and mature as your channel does! The commentary is so much more detailed and thoughtful now than when you started. It might not seem it because it happens so gradually, but you guys are making such interesting connections and insights these days than a few years ago. I also think it might be cool to see you do a re-reaction for some classic movies or shows after 5 or 10 years, to see what new observations you make. For example, Oct. 2025 will be 5 yrs since you guys watched Alien and The Thing. You could call it "Fresh Perspectives" or something like that (feel free to steal that).
I'm super late on this, but I just wanted to second OP. You guys do a great job with the post episode discussion. Sure, some is speculation, but that's part of the reason reaction channels are so much fun. The fact that the discussion is almost as long as the watching (I know, cut down for Yt) says a lot about you both. I don't always want or need deep intellectual analysis for every show--and sometimes it just makes the show worse, or as is the case here, can just miss the point of good sci-fi. It should be thought provoking, but also tell a good story. This show strikes me as similar to "Andor" how the two production companies took an established base of lore and crafted new and amazing stories and characters lovingly situated in their respective universes. Anyway, great job you two!
Funnily enough, immortality is pretty common in the Fallout games. Many characters in the games dating back to 2 have some form of immortality/long lives. Ghouls, FEV mutants, cryo-pods, House's...umm...well, his whole thing he had going on, the brains in jars in OWB, some characters exist in terminal form, etc. I wasn't in the least bit shocked by Moldaver's reveal given.
Remember the ad Cooper was shooting at this beginning of episode? They were the Hawthornes. Remember the last episode; the hospital was named The Hawthorne Research & Development?
9:38, No she doesn't have this job out of fear. Did you notice how quickly she diverted that conversation? If anything was out of fear it was maybe she thought that she had said too much.
Hey guys, great reaction & commentary. Nice theories being thrown out. Good call on the Cryo-Pods. I do believe that Ms. Williams/Moldaver was put in a Cryo-Pod. - I was corrected on the timeline. The bombing of Shady Sands happened just after 2281 & the current time is 2296. So, Max would be about 20/21. - Like the commercial said, Vault 4 was managed by scientists. I don't think they were testing on Lucy & Max. I think that Test Subjects sign has been there since the start. If u read the sign on the wall when Max & Lucy woke up on the gurneys, it reads Caution Falling Objects. That clinic was a front so the scientist could get their test subjects. Well, that's all I've got to say.
@@toomanyaccounts According to the timeline chart in the class room Shady Sands has a big mushroom cloud next to it & the year was 2277, 200yrs after the initial bombs. If it came after, it couldn't have been that long after. Not talking about game lore.
@@lynetteoliva1256 lol! The showrunners addressed that. That is why I said what I said. The bombing happened years after. Maximus at the lowest rank is in his late teens or early 20s
The showrunners state Shady Sands was destroyed after the events of Fallout: New Vegas which occurred in 2281. Remember was having several conflicts in 2281. The Legion, The Brotherhood, even House in New Vegas were in opposition to the NCR
@@toomanyaccounts Unless it happened immediately after New Vegas, that doesn't make sense w/the explanation of the last episode. Because I would think it wouldn't be waited on & something else that I don't want to mention because it's a spoiler.
The New California Republic flag makes me tear up a little, in the way that no real world flags do. I guess it's the idea of it being destroyed in this timeline? Certainly they should exist around where the characters are wandering, around the former California. I suppose it's necessary to add to the pathos of the world as Vault-Tec has ruined it in this particular storyline. I really love the resistance to what's coming in this episode. That stuff about fiduciary responsibility is exactly right, especially when corporations have taken over the government and national security has been privatised. That is why the military-industrial-congressional-media complex is driving the US to start more and more wars, even against the most powerful nuclear armed countries in the world right now.
I'd say Moldaver looked a good bit older in the current time than the flashback. They did go out of the way to give her gray hairs and fairly deep wrinkles in Ep1. Time-wise, there will be more clues (at least) how long she's been around in the current time, but about 20+ years. Visually, I'd put her in the 30s in the flash-back and 50's presently... but like very well-preserved Hollywood 50's
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv aw, cmon, we all know national landmarks are indestructible, or else how will shows set a few hundred/thousand years in the future tell us where we are? I would've quit watching at episode 1 if I didn't know we were at Santa Monica pier 😅
I've been subscribed for a couple years now, and I can't stop waving back to Samantha every time she says "Hello!" and waves at the start of every video. It's just muscle memory now. I think I started because I felt it would be rude not to wave back. I'm aware videos on a screen do not work that way, yet it stuck.
About Coopers daughter: You should watch the scene again when the bombs fell, I guess. Cooper was outside with his daughter. Thats why he became a Ghoul, so his daughter (and his horse) probably got killed. And if not, if they made it to a vault, there would be little chance that Cooper brought his daughter to the same vault as his mother (possibly) was in, on horseback. But hey, on the other hand. When you see the huge plot hole from the final episode, then it wouldn't surprise me, if his daugther is suddenly with his mother. What was really fascinating for me about this episode(and the next one) is that we basically got to see more of the pre-fallout world and lore than in ALL of the fallout games put together. Considering that this is all canon makes it very interesting, but at the same time the games always made a point that the old world, or who dropped the bombs just don't matter, its in human nature to destroy themselves and the bombs were just one of the many possible ways for them to go. Now is now and you have to make the best out of that new world. It gave more lore to the world than 27 years of videogame history, thats huge!
@@jdew84 I will comment it under their season final reaction!=D Makes more sense there and doesn't spoil anything if the Schmitts or anyone reads the comments here. But it has to to with Moldaver.
Real scientists, named Hawthorne just like the R&D lab. Lucy fails her sneak test. As you go into episode 7 keep in mind almost nothing in vault four is what you think it is. IMO Moldaver is probably around because of cryo suspension, which I assume is what you were hinting at. Totally were cryo tanks in the level twelve lab.
The show does a good job of making clear the dangers of the military industrial complex. Modern militaries _should not_ use products and personnel from private companies because of stuff like this. Too late now, though.
private companies have been providing equipment to militarties for centuries. Even then soldiers often bought their own equipment same with police today
@@toomanyaccountsYes, you are correct but I think OP is talking more about companies like Boeing who have a COLLOSAL military production element, rather than Goretex boots instead of 5.11 boots (I don't know the exact brands, that was just examples). The contracts for item manufacturing are done so far above soldier level and there are so many examples of the company making substandard kit that doesn't do what it was supposed to - the early M16s were awful.
@@theaikidoka early m16s were awful due to the military believing Armalites claim that cleaning kits were not necessary due to a certain bullet powder formulation. Even the sks and ak47 came with cleaning kits. It should be noted the military requested a change to the ar15 design that caused major issues in production and no one really ever uses it.
which is funny considering that AK47s were and are famously hardy and still function in conditions where most other weapons would jam due to dirt and filth. sadly, this topic is largely why defense spending is the way it is. most of the defense budget goes to private company's CEO's pockets instead of soldiers. then you end up with H1 hummers costing over $1m each but getting deployed missing vital armor, and so on.
@@RaptorNX01 the ak47s are cheap due to how much was put into making the factories etc. oh ak47s still had a cleaning kit that was often included with them. the problem with the Vietnam m16s were due to no cleaning kit because they were sold to the US gov't as not needing cleaning due to a powder formulation. Said powder formulation often resulted in squib loads and was abandoned due to not being consistent in production. the AR15s that were sold by Colt to be used in NAM did have cleaning kits though and were often praised by the special forces that used them. yes AR15s were used in NAM. There was an order for 80000 AR15s to be used in Vietnam in 1961 by General Lemay.
I'm genuinely worried about Dan. Lol, his fumbles at the beginning, his forgetting of things mentioned in previous episodes, his joy at the idea of incest. . . You ok man, maybe need some sleep?
You guys are having such a hard time nailing your lines. It’s almost… something has upended your lives, thrown off your sleep, scrambled your brains? (How’s parenthood treating y’all? 😁)
Notice how The Ghoul took the blame for destroying the organ harvesting mart instead of Lucy, which was her fault? See you picked up on Cooper's wife and how she was talking to him about the vaults and war. She mentions the war as if its a matter of fact. She's been gaslighting and lying to Cooper ever since we were first introduced to her in Episode 3. Vault-tec is very powerful as any Fallout game player knows from encountering the vaults and lore that we find out. They have their hands in everything even puppets in the military, government, scientists, etc. Sure would be interesting to see where any possible pre-war scenes lead us to.
I didn't catch that the Ghoul took the blame until another youtuber mentioned it. I thought he just decided there was no point to argue. But taking the blame means he is paying her back for the vials or regaining some of his humanity
Quite the opposite. He isn't trying to intimidate them, he is trying to instigate a fight so he feels justified in killing them. He does the same thing repeatedly through the season. He is most likely acting out of cognitive bias that he is the good guy because he won't start a physical fight, although he is clearly trying to get others to do so.
@@jasondolph2785 Good point, most obvious example is coming in the next episode (with the son of lead farmer). There's still Cooper Howard underneath "the Ghoul" mask he wears.
The original bombs fell in October 2077. We are 219 years after the fact based on the time-skip given to us so it should be 2296 currently. The games all took place before the show in the Fallout timeline. @TBR Schmitt
The moment when Lucy grabs the flag and has a look at it will never fail to give me massive goosebumbs. the music setting in at this moment is the videogame main theme
New Vegas theme song
@@HoneyKrisp69 It's the Fallout 4 main title theme
its also the New Vegas main theme. and this rendition is specifically the main menu music.
@@RaptorNX01 Yes but it's not the New Vegas version of the theme. we're on RUclips, you can look it up and hear the difference lol.
The poster @4:32 "A Man and His Dog" is reference to a movie from 1975 call "A Boy and His Dog" starring Don Johnson that the creators of the Fallout games have credited as an inspiration.
Excellent movie script. Good catch on that detail.
it was actually a book series starting in 1969
Maximus' befuddled 'What is this?' kills me every time I see it, it's such a great line delivery. I've been using it at work ever since seeing this episode. 😂
Hey Dan, kudos to you for leaving the blunders in the edit. I'm a podcaster and it's amazing how you can say the same key phrases many times and then suddenly your brain just WON'T recall them. Honestly, I like seeing the little errors, it makes you more relatable. Thanks for all your hard work.
Y'all have a baby, we forgive the baby brain! But also props for still having a pretty consistent upload schedule while being busy parents!
Cooper mentioned in Ep.1 when talking to his daughter that he had been a Marine. Seeing as he confirms when talking to Bud after filming the vault ad that he had worn T-45 power armor, he would’ve served in the still active Sino-American War that had been going on since Winter 2066 until the bombs dropped on October 23, 2077. The military had only just began using the T-51 armor in June 2076, so safe to say Cooper might’ve served at the beginning of the war. Probably served his 4 years and then ended up getting into acting in Hollywood. 🎬
He served in Alaska.
The intro was fantastic 😂
Sam's hair is epic!
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Wow, early for a solid upload from great reviewers. Popcorn in the microwave, kick-back, click-play, relax, enjoy. Like living in a vault.
When he said Dune
I wondered if the actor who played Lucy's father is the same guy who played the character Paul Atriedis from the older Dune movies?
yes that was him. he was also in a movie "The Hidden" which came out in 1987.
It's been so cool to watch you both grow and mature as your channel does! The commentary is so much more detailed and thoughtful now than when you started. It might not seem it because it happens so gradually, but you guys are making such interesting connections and insights these days than a few years ago. I also think it might be cool to see you do a re-reaction for some classic movies or shows after 5 or 10 years, to see what new observations you make. For example, Oct. 2025 will be 5 yrs since you guys watched Alien and The Thing. You could call it "Fresh Perspectives" or something like that (feel free to steal that).
This is the sweetest comment, thank you! ❤
@@samantha_schmitt No, thank YOU! It's the truth!
I'm super late on this, but I just wanted to second OP. You guys do a great job with the post episode discussion. Sure, some is speculation, but that's part of the reason reaction channels are so much fun. The fact that the discussion is almost as long as the watching (I know, cut down for Yt) says a lot about you both. I don't always want or need deep intellectual analysis for every show--and sometimes it just makes the show worse, or as is the case here, can just miss the point of good sci-fi. It should be thought provoking, but also tell a good story. This show strikes me as similar to "Andor" how the two production companies took an established base of lore and crafted new and amazing stories and characters lovingly situated in their respective universes.
Anyway, great job you two!
The series has giving me a renewed inspiration! It was really fun after playing Fallout for so many years!
Funnily enough, immortality is pretty common in the Fallout games. Many characters in the games dating back to 2 have some form of immortality/long lives. Ghouls, FEV mutants, cryo-pods, House's...umm...well, his whole thing he had going on, the brains in jars in OWB, some characters exist in terminal form, etc. I wasn't in the least bit shocked by Moldaver's reveal given.
I think it's fair to assume that her being influential, rich as hell and a scientist she simply got some form of cryo before the bombs fell.
life extension would be the proper term
He didn’t change. The dog left him. He also saved the dog. Which he has to stab because it was attacking him.
Remember the ad Cooper was shooting at this beginning of episode? They were the Hawthornes. Remember the last episode; the hospital was named The Hawthorne Research & Development?
I only remember Pierce Hawthorne
@@pseudohacker which is an actual number you can call.
The look on Sam's face is like OMG, what the hell was that!? 😂
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Effing love Chris Parnell.
"Oh incest!" My cough drop became a bullet I laughed so hard.
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Next best thing to a rotten tooth. 😉
4:35 - The poster is an homage to the movie "A Boy and His Dog" 1975, which was the inspiration for the game FALLOUT! - Please put in on your list!
@@EShelby2127 it was a novel by Harlan Ellison
Funny that Maximus doesn’t think hes in a cult already
9:38, No she doesn't have this job out of fear. Did you notice how quickly she diverted that conversation? If anything was out of fear it was maybe she thought that she had said too much.
Love Sam’s reaction
Hey guys, great reaction & commentary. Nice theories being thrown out. Good call on the Cryo-Pods. I do believe that Ms. Williams/Moldaver was put in a Cryo-Pod.
- I was corrected on the timeline. The bombing of Shady Sands happened just after 2281 & the current time is 2296. So, Max would be about 20/21.
- Like the commercial said, Vault 4 was managed by scientists. I don't think they were testing on Lucy & Max. I think that Test Subjects sign has been there since the start. If u read the sign on the wall when Max & Lucy woke up on the gurneys, it reads Caution Falling Objects. That clinic was a front so the scientist could get their test subjects.
Well, that's all I've got to say.
the bombing didn't happen in 2277 .it occured years after. the start of events that led to the bombing started in 2277
@@toomanyaccounts
According to the timeline chart in the class room Shady Sands has a big mushroom cloud next to it & the year was 2277, 200yrs after the initial bombs. If it came after, it couldn't have been that long after. Not talking about game lore.
@@lynetteoliva1256 lol! The showrunners addressed that. That is why I said what I said. The bombing happened years after. Maximus at the lowest rank is in his late teens or early 20s
The showrunners state Shady Sands was destroyed after the events of Fallout: New Vegas which occurred in 2281. Remember was having several conflicts in 2281. The Legion, The Brotherhood, even House in New Vegas were in opposition to the NCR
@@toomanyaccounts Unless it happened immediately after New Vegas, that doesn't make sense w/the explanation of the last episode. Because I would think it wouldn't be waited on & something else that I don't want to mention because it's a spoiler.
Haven't played New Vegas in years...this show is making me want to break it out again
The New California Republic flag makes me tear up a little, in the way that no real world flags do. I guess it's the idea of it being destroyed in this timeline? Certainly they should exist around where the characters are wandering, around the former California. I suppose it's necessary to add to the pathos of the world as Vault-Tec has ruined it in this particular storyline. I really love the resistance to what's coming in this episode. That stuff about fiduciary responsibility is exactly right, especially when corporations have taken over the government and national security has been privatised. That is why the military-industrial-congressional-media complex is driving the US to start more and more wars, even against the most powerful nuclear armed countries in the world right now.
Great reaction y'all. Also love the hair Sam
Thank you!
These vaults are interesting for sure lol
You guys are the best! ❤❤❤❤
Sam looks like she could be related to Moldaver. Especially in that banner with her hair down . Both beautiful. 😊
After finding the experiments, makes you wonder where the caviar Maximus was having came from hmm?
I'd say Moldaver looked a good bit older in the current time than the flashback. They did go out of the way to give her gray hairs and fairly deep wrinkles in Ep1. Time-wise, there will be more clues (at least) how long she's been around in the current time, but about 20+ years.
Visually, I'd put her in the 30s in the flash-back and 50's presently... but like very well-preserved Hollywood 50's
Even the HOLLYWOOD sign was well preserved.
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv aw, cmon, we all know national landmarks are indestructible, or else how will shows set a few hundred/thousand years in the future tell us where we are?
I would've quit watching at episode 1 if I didn't know we were at Santa Monica pier 😅
I've been subscribed for a couple years now, and I can't stop waving back to Samantha every time she says "Hello!" and waves at the start of every video. It's just muscle memory now. I think I started because I felt it would be rude not to wave back. I'm aware videos on a screen do not work that way, yet it stuck.
Aww hi! 👋🏼
It's an instant shot of serotonin every single time!
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
thank you for black level test for my monitor,
About Coopers daughter: You should watch the scene again when the bombs fell, I guess.
Cooper was outside with his daughter. Thats why he became a Ghoul, so his daughter (and his horse) probably got killed. And if not, if they made it to a vault, there would be little chance that Cooper brought his daughter to the same vault as his mother (possibly) was in, on horseback.
But hey, on the other hand. When you see the huge plot hole from the final episode, then it wouldn't surprise me, if his daugther is suddenly with his mother.
What was really fascinating for me about this episode(and the next one) is that we basically got to see more of the pre-fallout world and lore than in ALL of the fallout games put together. Considering that this is all canon makes it very interesting, but at the same time the games always made a point that the old world, or who dropped the bombs just don't matter, its in human nature to destroy themselves and the bombs were just one of the many possible ways for them to go. Now is now and you have to make the best out of that new world.
It gave more lore to the world than 27 years of videogame history, thats huge!
@@jdew84 I will comment it under their season final reaction!=D
Makes more sense there and doesn't spoil anything if the Schmitts or anyone reads the comments here.
But it has to to with Moldaver.
Real scientists, named Hawthorne just like the R&D lab.
Lucy fails her sneak test.
As you go into episode 7 keep in mind almost nothing in vault four is what you think it is.
IMO Moldaver is probably around because of cryo suspension, which I assume is what you were hinting at. Totally were cryo tanks in the level twelve lab.
React to the film: X (2022), a very good slasher horror from A24, intelligent, unexpected and brutal, you'll enjoy it.
The sequel is insane, especially the final shot
Dude. Codsworth. (Fallout 4)
You guys should watch Malibu’s most wanted, it’s hilarious !
The show does a good job of making clear the dangers of the military industrial complex. Modern militaries _should not_ use products and personnel from private companies because of stuff like this. Too late now, though.
private companies have been providing equipment to militarties for centuries. Even then soldiers often bought their own equipment same with police today
@@toomanyaccountsYes, you are correct but I think OP is talking more about companies like Boeing who have a COLLOSAL military production element, rather than Goretex boots instead of 5.11 boots (I don't know the exact brands, that was just examples). The contracts for item manufacturing are done so far above soldier level and there are so many examples of the company making substandard kit that doesn't do what it was supposed to - the early M16s were awful.
@@theaikidoka early m16s were awful due to the military believing Armalites claim that cleaning kits were not necessary due to a certain bullet powder formulation. Even the sks and ak47 came with cleaning kits. It should be noted the military requested a change to the ar15 design that caused major issues in production and no one really ever uses it.
which is funny considering that AK47s were and are famously hardy and still function in conditions where most other weapons would jam due to dirt and filth.
sadly, this topic is largely why defense spending is the way it is. most of the defense budget goes to private company's CEO's pockets instead of soldiers. then you end up with H1 hummers costing over $1m each but getting deployed missing vital armor, and so on.
@@RaptorNX01 the ak47s are cheap due to how much was put into making the factories etc. oh ak47s still had a cleaning kit that was often included with them.
the problem with the Vietnam m16s were due to no cleaning kit because they were sold to the US gov't as not needing cleaning due to a powder formulation. Said powder formulation often resulted in squib loads and was abandoned due to not being consistent in production. the AR15s that were sold by Colt to be used in NAM did have cleaning kits though and were often praised by the special forces that used them. yes AR15s were used in NAM. There was an order for 80000 AR15s to be used in Vietnam in 1961 by General Lemay.
I'm genuinely worried about Dan. Lol, his fumbles at the beginning, his forgetting of things mentioned in previous episodes, his joy at the idea of incest. . . You ok man, maybe need some sleep?
I definitely need sleep! tell that to my baby haha
A show about a massive evil company that owns nearly everything being made by and streamed on Amazon. Oh the irony.
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You guys are having such a hard time nailing your lines. It’s almost… something has upended your lives, thrown off your sleep, scrambled your brains? (How’s parenthood treating y’all? 😁)
Notice how The Ghoul took the blame for destroying the organ harvesting mart instead of Lucy, which was her fault? See you picked up on Cooper's wife and how she was talking to him about the vaults and war. She mentions the war as if its a matter of fact. She's been gaslighting and lying to Cooper ever since we were first introduced to her in Episode 3. Vault-tec is very powerful as any Fallout game player knows from encountering the vaults and lore that we find out. They have their hands in everything even puppets in the military, government, scientists, etc. Sure would be interesting to see where any possible pre-war scenes lead us to.
I didn't catch that the Ghoul took the blame until another youtuber mentioned it. I thought he just decided there was no point to argue. But taking the blame means he is paying her back for the vials or regaining some of his humanity
@@clearsmashdrop5829 Also he's listing another massacre he commited to make those guys think twice before they try him.
Quite the opposite. He isn't trying to intimidate them, he is trying to instigate a fight so he feels justified in killing them. He does the same thing repeatedly through the season. He is most likely acting out of cognitive bias that he is the good guy because he won't start a physical fight, although he is clearly trying to get others to do so.
@@jasondolph2785 Good point, most obvious example is coming in the next episode (with the son of lead farmer). There's still Cooper Howard underneath "the Ghoul" mask he wears.
These videos are taking too long for us to see you get through the season, lol.
Yeah.. You said Dune. When do we get Dune part 2 😡😡
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He's so drunk he can't handle the intro... :-)
i think he just fumbled his words.
TBR went all Biden on us in the beginning lol!
Dude, you aren't obliged to accept an offer for sex if you don't want to, what's the matter with you?