I guess people forgot that Liam, once he put that ring on her finger, ask Steffy to marry him...when Steffy ask Liam to marry her, he has a mouth he could've said...No...but married her anyway so that's not her fault, it was his for going along with the marriage!!!
Thank you! Liam certainly could have said no. And, he certainly did propose on his own. And, let's not forget that Liam was developing a relationship (friendship, kissing, dancing, time on the beach together, etc.) with Steffy while Hope was busy with whatever. In fact, Liam even told Steffy (right before Hope broke off her engagement) that, if he were not already with Hope, she (Steffy) would be the one. Maybe Hope should take a serious look at LIAM's actions. All of that aside, I do love Steam!.
Steffy's marriage to Liam is based on vengeance against Hope. She never loves Liam. Also she knows Liam still loves Hope, just a rebound to him and use it to her advantage. But it didn't matter her because as long as she's using sex and her body to control him for revenge on Hope.
@@sherell273 Steffy marriage wasn't revenge for Hope, if she wasn't so childish and stood up for herself day one...when she saw them kissing in the car none of this drama would've happened...also Liam not innocent either...he could've said...No!!!
@@theresapoll Can I ask you these questions about Steffy? Has she really move on so quickly from the despair, pain, suffering, and devastation she been through with Bill? When Hope went to see her to gloat and rub the Logans family victory in her face while being in despair and destroyed, ultimately. Have she been fully recovered from all of this after all these years? NO! She didn't and never has as of this day! Trust me. Don't you ever let Steffy and the writers fool and manipulate you. She's still in a place of darkness with all the hurt, pain, anger, rage and hate that she couldn't heal these wounds for years now. She may convince everyone she found happiness and peace with Liam, and moved on from Bill. But not exactly what you though and believe.
@@theresapoll Steffy staged the kiss in the car. She knew Hope was coming towards them, so Hope can suffer and ended her engagement with Liam. She did married Liam on the top of ajax mountain for vengeance against Hope. You're right, Liam wasn't innocent when said yes to marry her; without knowing Steffy manipulated him and pull his strings. The wedding was based on vengeance against Hope. She didn't loves Liam, she never did as of this day. She's still using sex and her body to control, manipulate him and pull his strings as a toy for vengeance against Hope and Bill.
Lol this what I love about Soap Operas. Everything is just so over the top and fun. All this plotting and scheming just to keep 2 people from talking to each other lol
@@patriciaharrell1303 There followed 3 more marriages (Forresterhaus 2013 Sidney 2017 + renovation 2017 in Liam and Steffy's living room) and 2 kids (Boy Aspen + 2013 and Girl Kelly * 4.6.2018)
Steffy told Liam she understood if he was thinking about Hope toady and needed to talk. He should have just been honest with her about going up the mountain.
Because Hope and Liam was a couple for more than one year and both are loves eachother.Steffy was disapointed in Bill because he goes back to his marriage.One moment she loves Bill in the next moment she loves Liam and always for revenge to the Logan's.
The Logan's acts like Liam is a toy that Hope can play with when she's ready and put it back on the self but no one else is allowed to play with it ir a prize from a game
Even Ricky Dicky as smart as he thinks he is and Brookehoe given Hopeless permission to take the Forrestor jet when she had no right to couldn't stop the the wedding The Logan gang all together couldn't stop it Hopeless and Ricky Dicky had to come home with their tail between their legs while Steffy and Liam got married and enjoyed their honeymoon Love it all they did is give Hopeless false hope
Steffy and Bill went to great lengths to separate Liam and Hope. This is proof of just how desperate they were. Liam had no idea about this forres of a marriage to Steffy.
I disagree if Hope hadn't been a spoilt child and wasted a company jet time chasing after liam Why didn't she wait until they came home This is Logan entitlement again
Liam didn't and still doesn't see this Aspen marriage to Steffy as a farce. That's why he still keeps and looks lovingly at pictures of their Aspen wedding. He doesn't think of that wedding the same way that Hope and the Logans do. That is why he will later tear up his and Steffy's annulment papers after Steffy finally signs them and frees him to marry Hope immediately.
Why are people saying liam was going to meet hope..he got a message and instructions to go alone.. he didn't even know who the message was from that's why he thought steffy set it up when he saw her in the wedding dress🙄🙄. He didn't know it was hope he was going to meet..he was hoping it was..he questioned if maybe she came to Aspen because the word hope was in the message....the way people speak like liam and hope had a conversation and planned to meet there and steffy got there first and because liam thought hope stood him up he married steffy
Yeah, frankly the vague message to just be somewhere for something was really stupid, and I don't why Ric wouldn't just have his friend tell Liam that Hope was on her way to see him in Aspen - and really, what are the chances that this dude would find Liam after just skateboarding around the place for a little bit. Even by soap opera standards this was a poorly thought out set of events by the writers. They must've been feeling lazy that day.
Has Hope, Rick, Bill, and Liam ever wonder and become suspicious of how did Steffy knew about the time and the place Liam was going to meet Hope on the top of ajax? Definitely Bill didn't knew and warned Steffy about it that for sure! Can everybody answer that?
Steffy did not know about any time. Only Liam. Liam was going on the mountain and that is all Steffy knew.. so she met him there. Once she got there is when she saw Hope was there. If I was Steffy I would have wondered why was Liam so adamant about going on the mountain in the first place....especially when I had just saw little miss goody two shoes. #TeamSteffy #freesteffy #teamstelly #TeamTridge #FreetheFORRESTERSofAllHoegans #Steo #QueenSteffythePhoenix #SaveThomasHamiltonForrester #SaveDouglasForrester
@@UrGworlCanCan When Liam told Steffy that he's going to top of ajax mountain to check it out. Why did she told him she didn't want to go there and she's "not into gondolas"? Also, she says to herself with an idea "At top of ajax. That's a perfect spot!" Then told Bill that Liam is "save" at top of the mountain and was planning something as an insurance?
Everyone keeps thinking that Liam ditched Steffy to meet Hope!! Y’all need to reach watch the episode! Liam purchased him AND STEFFY a ticket to go up the Gondola, Steffy chose not to go with him but immediately got the idea to marry him up there WAY BEFORE SHE SAW HOPE!!! If y’all pa6 attention, by the time Steffy sees Hope, she already has a wedding dress in her hands . . .
Hope Logan was so happy and determined if only she knew that her hopes were going to be dashed by two determining people also Steffy Forrester and Bill Spencer 😮
Liam loved Hope, there's no mistake there he loved her but all he wanted was to spend some quality time with his fiance but we know what happened there.
WOW such a loving intense relationship ...🤣 ONLY way Steffy got him was with HOPES RING and her and Bill TRICKING Liam into marriage,,, I am sure the Logan haters fast forewarded where Liam is flashing back and missing Hope seeing her images in his mind ,,, way to go Taylor and Steffy ANOTHER SECOND CHOICE 🤣
Steffy was scared that if Liam saw Hope he would have changed his mind because he is in love with her and he was engaged to her first Steffy is wearing Hope's ring and Liam went up to the mountain not to marry that manipulator Steffy but to meet the true love of his life Hope.
Oh yes Steffy was definitely a manipulator and manipulating the entire situation using Bill and Liam to get what she wanted destroying two loving people that loved each other she is the biggest manipulator next to her grandmother and mother😮
She is. she romanticized this time in aspen. But from the moment bill called her shebwas manipulating things to stop liam and hope feom seeing each other. Liam was the only one caught in and living in the moment with steffie.
The spin Brooke and the Logans put on things is so holier than thou and self serving.
maybe BUT it's ALL FACTS
I can't stand them 🙄🙄
steffy has always been a choice for liam Hope is an obligation that's the difference
Yes I agree with so many of your comments on the show.
And His Father Also
I disagree you mean Steffy has always been the second choice for Liam Spencer
Oh come on! Let Steffy have some happiness for once!!!
he lied and he was deceitful too He didn't tell Steffy he was going to meet that spoilt brat Hope
I guess people forgot that Liam, once he put that ring on her finger, ask Steffy to marry him...when Steffy ask Liam to marry her, he has a mouth he could've said...No...but married her anyway so that's not her fault, it was his for going along with the marriage!!!
Thank you! Liam certainly could have said no. And, he certainly did propose on his own. And, let's not forget that Liam was developing a relationship (friendship, kissing, dancing, time on the beach together, etc.) with Steffy while Hope was busy with whatever. In fact, Liam even told Steffy (right before Hope broke off her engagement) that, if he were not already with Hope, she (Steffy) would be the one.
Maybe Hope should take a serious look at LIAM's actions. All of that aside, I do love Steam!.
Steffy's marriage to Liam is based on vengeance against Hope. She never loves Liam. Also she knows Liam still loves Hope, just a rebound to him and use it to her advantage. But it didn't matter her because as long as she's using sex and her body to control him for revenge on Hope.
@@sherell273
Steffy marriage wasn't revenge for Hope, if she wasn't so childish and stood up for herself day one...when she saw them kissing in the car none of this drama would've happened...also Liam not innocent either...he could've said...No!!!
@@theresapoll Can I ask you these questions about Steffy? Has she really move on so quickly from the despair, pain, suffering, and devastation she been through with Bill? When Hope went to see her to gloat and rub the Logans family victory in her face while being in despair and destroyed, ultimately. Have she been fully recovered from all of this after all these years? NO! She didn't and never has as of this day! Trust me. Don't you ever let Steffy and the writers fool and manipulate you. She's still in a place of darkness with all the hurt, pain, anger, rage and hate that she couldn't heal these wounds for years now. She may convince everyone she found happiness and peace with Liam, and moved on from Bill. But not exactly what you though and believe.
@@theresapoll Steffy staged the kiss in the car. She knew Hope was coming towards them, so Hope can suffer and ended her engagement with Liam. She did married Liam on the top of ajax mountain for vengeance against Hope. You're right, Liam wasn't innocent when said yes to marry her; without knowing Steffy manipulated him and pull his strings. The wedding was based on vengeance against Hope. She didn't loves Liam, she never did as of this day. She's still using sex and her body to control, manipulate him and pull his strings as a toy for vengeance against Hope and Bill.
Lol this what I love about Soap Operas. Everything is just so over the top and fun. All this plotting and scheming just to keep 2 people from talking to each other lol
Hope broke off there engagement without talking to liam and over reacting againol
Liam look so happy
Hell yes steffy she made love to liam first and had his baby first they made for each other I'm steffy fan
Patricia Harrell I agree with u, hell yes
@@patriciaharrell1303 There followed 3 more marriages (Forresterhaus 2013
Sidney 2017
+ renovation 2017 in Liam and Steffy's living room) and 2 kids (Boy Aspen + 2013 and Girl Kelly * 4.6.2018)
Steffy told Liam she understood if he was thinking about Hope toady and needed to talk. He should have just been honest with her about going up the mountain.
liam deceived steffy in Aspen too he was prepared to go on his own up that mountain
Steffy hasn't been stalking Liam, she's been being his friend and was there for him when he needed a friend.
She was no friend because she ragged on Hope and kept throwing herself on him right after his father left her, please
STALKING!
Stalking‼️
so tracking down liam wasn't manipulation lol
she took off her ring in the blink of an eye and liam gave to steffy but even liam is a liar so our steffy deserves much better
Liam wasn’t a Liar he had more feelings for steffy more he realized and but he didn’t act on it but gave in because he always had his mind
why does Hope think that her feelings for liam are more important than steffys
Because she thinks what she Wants Is more important than absolutely anything else to hell with everyone
Classic hope behavior. All about her all the time.
Because Hope and Liam was a couple for more than one year and both are loves eachother.Steffy was disapointed in Bill because he goes back to his marriage.One moment she loves Bill in the next moment she loves Liam and always for revenge to the Logan's.
Because it’s “all about” the Logans
Bcz she is Hopeless!!!
liam was going up mountain to meet Hope so he was a liar to steffy too so they both lied
If Liam loved Hope he would be the one chasing after her. He isn't the one she wants. Steffy is just trying to keep him happy.
The Logan's acts like Liam is a toy that Hope can play with when she's ready and put it back on the self but no one else is allowed to play with it ir a prize from a game
This is classic Logan logic! Steffi is ' stalking' Liam but he proposed to her! And she is not the one Googling plane tail number to try to find him
i hated what Bell did to the Steffy character He made her look desperate
Steffy was told play hard to get and she replied i could have done but i know what i want
thought the DJ was meant to be Steffys friend he was two faced
Yes Othello was both Steffy and Ric friend from their club days.
Yes he certainly was 2 faced.
Bell should have shipped Hope to Paris after she saw the wedding of Liam and Steffy. The show was the best when Hope wasn't on the show.
Steffy didn't know hope was going up the mt, she was going to go marry Liam without knowing that.
Aw, good old soapy drama. lol
Yes it was a good time
because Steffy was always available for Liams needs he took advantage of her and was nasty on several occasions she was really too good for Liam
Yes
@Evelyn Hollinsworth Right.
When Steffy saw Hope in the queue for the Gandolo and said "Oh No I went " Oh Hell NO!!"
Hope dresses like the girl from the valley living on a farm !!!
Overall: Logan's big mouths ugh me!
shes a drama queen and very inmature
OMG why 2 girls fight over one guy that just carzy oh my God
Did this dope give him 200 bucks for a cab ride
steffy he lied he was going to meet Hope
Even Ricky Dicky as smart as he thinks he is and Brookehoe given Hopeless permission to take the Forrestor jet when she had no right to couldn't stop the the wedding The Logan gang all together couldn't stop it Hopeless and Ricky Dicky had to come home with their tail between their legs while Steffy and Liam got married and enjoyed their honeymoon Love it all they did is give Hopeless false hope
I can't imagine this Rick being in a relationship with Steffy or sleeping with and proposing to Taylor
Steffy and Bill went to great lengths to separate Liam and Hope. This is proof of just how desperate they were. Liam had no idea about this forres of a marriage to Steffy.
I disagree if Hope hadn't been a spoilt child and wasted a company jet time chasing after liam Why didn't she wait until they came home This is Logan entitlement again
Liam didn't and still doesn't see this Aspen marriage to Steffy as a farce. That's why he still keeps and looks lovingly at pictures of their Aspen wedding. He doesn't think of that wedding the same way that Hope and the Logans do. That is why he will later tear up his and Steffy's annulment papers after Steffy finally signs them and frees him to marry Hope immediately.
Yes but when he did he and had the chance to walk away he chose Steffy again.
@@jacksonholland1389 becoz he saw Thomas kissing Hope,else he wudnt have gone straight to Hope bt as usual he loves the back and forth
liam wasnt bothered in fact he was impressed that Steffy would go to such lengths for him. Steffy was best for Liam
Why are people saying liam was going to meet hope..he got a message and instructions to go alone.. he didn't even know who the message was from that's why he thought steffy set it up when he saw her in the wedding dress🙄🙄. He didn't know it was hope he was going to meet..he was hoping it was..he questioned if maybe she came to Aspen because the word hope was in the message....the way people speak like liam and hope had a conversation and planned to meet there and steffy got there first and because liam thought hope stood him up he married steffy
Yeah, frankly the vague message to just be somewhere for something was really stupid, and I don't why Ric wouldn't just have his friend tell Liam that Hope was on her way to see him in Aspen - and really, what are the chances that this dude would find Liam after just skateboarding around the place for a little bit. Even by soap opera standards this was a poorly thought out set of events by the writers. They must've been feeling lazy that day.
This was an iconic a scene between Liam and Steffy and hope being trapped in the gondola by Bill Spencer and Steffy😮
Has Hope, Rick, Bill, and Liam ever wonder and become suspicious of how did Steffy knew about the time and the place Liam was going to meet Hope on the top of ajax? Definitely Bill didn't knew and warned Steffy about it that for sure! Can everybody answer that?
Steffy did not know about any time. Only Liam. Liam was going on the mountain and that is all Steffy knew.. so she met him there. Once she got there is when she saw Hope was there. If I was Steffy I would have wondered why was Liam so adamant about going on the mountain in the first place....especially when I had just saw little miss goody two shoes. #TeamSteffy #freesteffy #teamstelly #TeamTridge #FreetheFORRESTERSofAllHoegans #Steo #QueenSteffythePhoenix #SaveThomasHamiltonForrester #SaveDouglasForrester
@@UrGworlCanCan When Liam told Steffy that he's going to top of ajax mountain to check it out. Why did she told him she didn't want to go there and she's "not into gondolas"? Also, she says to herself with an idea "At top of ajax. That's a perfect spot!" Then told Bill that Liam is "save" at top of the mountain and was planning something as an insurance?
Everyone keeps thinking that Liam ditched Steffy to meet Hope!! Y’all need to reach watch the episode! Liam purchased him AND STEFFY a ticket to go up the Gondola, Steffy chose not to go with him but immediately got the idea to marry him up there WAY BEFORE SHE SAW HOPE!!! If y’all pa6 attention, by the time Steffy sees Hope, she already has a wedding dress in her hands . . .
@@chaisedadiva1234 Thank you!
Hope Logan was so happy and determined if only she knew that her hopes were going to be dashed by two determining people also Steffy Forrester and Bill Spencer 😮
Hope is not getting Liam back again he's marrying stephy not hope
Liam loved Hope, there's no mistake there he loved her but all he wanted was to spend some quality time with his fiance but we know what happened there.
Liam Spencer was obviously contemplating reconciling with hope Logan the moment steffy saw hope it was endgame
I dont like the logans
Renelle Kennedy neither do I
Nor should you
Liam fickle can't make up his mind Hope or Steffy...
WOW such a loving intense relationship ...🤣 ONLY way Steffy got him was with HOPES RING and her and Bill TRICKING Liam into marriage,,, I am sure the Logan haters fast forewarded where Liam is flashing back and missing Hope seeing her images in his mind ,,, way to go Taylor and Steffy ANOTHER SECOND CHOICE 🤣
U know a man don't love u and won't choose u if u gotta rush to marry him like dat actually sprinting
🤣So VERY true you nailed it and so short and sweet
All I can say the truth always come out in the end
it's ashame that Liam is with staffy but all he can think about is hope he knows that he's wrong and he's hurting
hadnt liam been drinking
So freakin funny 😆
I don’t care what anyone says, Liam loves Hope. He always chose Hope! Steffy was just a obligation.
Sorry no she has. Not hope was. Stalking Liam not hope
Steffy was scared that if Liam saw Hope he would have changed his mind because he is in love with her and he was engaged to her first Steffy is wearing Hope's ring and Liam went up to the mountain not to marry that manipulator Steffy but to meet the true love of his life Hope.
Oh yes Steffy was definitely a manipulator and manipulating the entire situation using Bill and Liam to get what she wanted destroying two loving people that loved each other she is the biggest manipulator next to her grandmother and mother😮
Steffy is desperate.
MsGhost79 right
She is. she romanticized this time in aspen. But from the moment bill called her shebwas manipulating things to stop liam and hope feom seeing each other. Liam was the only one caught in and living in the moment with steffie.
Yup
Because she knows liam is in love with hope. And would have broken it off with her
Hope is desperate not steffy
The Logan’s are a strange family !!! Over bearing and very controlling.
So are the Forrester's in the Spencers😮
STEFFY BELONGS WITH BILL
😂😂😂
Yes Steffy damn sure belong with Bill Spencer😮