I've had afib for 30 years now. All I can say is drinking, even a small amount, ALWAYS has a negative affect for me. It's best to just start accepting that if you want to do all you can to stop your afib, abstinence is the only option. The sooner you accept this, the better.
I had a very bad afib episode almost a year ago, I had to have cardioversion which was terrifying but worked, now even one drink sets off weird feelings in my chest and its always a day or two later I will get a minute or so of palpitations and i think my god here we go again.... thankfully it always stopped but it was time for alcohol to go completely, been six months dry now and I have been very well, i do miss a few beers though, but the thought of the cardioversion again keeps me on the straight and narrow.
I wasn’t really a drinker, but when I was diagnosed with afib and learned alcohol was a potent trigger I simply stopped. 0 alcohol, except what I use on my hands to kill any environmental covid virus. I’ve had two ablations and still get occasional breakthrough episodes, but try to do everything I can to minimise reoccurrence. When I had my 2nd ablation, or ‘touch up’ as they call it, a fellow patient also having his 2nd procedure said he’d gone out for a pint with friends and his afib triggered. Lesson to be learned here.
Lessons indeed. I hope he's learned his. You're wise to abstain from alcohol. I don't count hand sanitizer as "imbibing" or ingesting in any way. It's topical and evaporates quickly.
I am a 77 year old retired ER physician and I am a rabid advocate of the health benefits of cycling. It truly works miracles and as an example I can still do a @ on the USAA Cycling 5 minute TT (a 4% average upgrade at 6300 foot elevation in Colorado Springs). I weigh low 170 pounds. I can't believe how good I still feel thanks to cycling BUT one area doctors never discuss (and this is huge) is alcohol and the heart. Alcohol is a potent cardiomyotoxin (meaning it is toxic to the heart muscle and causes heart muscle inflammation) but this is dose related. When I was in training I had a 23 year old die from his excessive alcohol intake causing congestive heart failure. In the ER I would see young people come in with an arrhythmia over the holidays due to excessive alcohol (thus the title "Holiday Heart"). As one gets older the risk of Atrial Fibrillation goes up logarithmically and AF can be exercise induced. AF causation is multifactorial and these precipitators make it much more likely during a ride: dehydration, low potassium, hypothermia (even drinking a smoothie can bring it on!), lack of sleep, too much caffeine, thyroid excess, and others. But no one ever seems to bring up the subject of excessive alcohol prior and the risk of AF. I love a nice red wine and this leaves me conflicted but I have found that half a bottle 2-3 days a week seems to not precipitate AF so one does not need to totally do without. My take home message to all us geriatric cycling advocates is keep all those precipitators to a minimum including alcohol and you can continue to partake of the Fountain of Youth and not need what most doctors would recommend: blood thinners or cardiac ablation! Also, watch your heart monitor (Garmin or whatever) like a hawk and when your rate starts getting in the upper ranges just back off to keep it out of trouble. Very high rate from exertion can bring on AF.
You're inspiring sir! As a 37 year old who was recently in the ER with afib with RVR after a long "Holiday Heart" three day drinking an overeating holiday, this has been a wake-up call to say the least. I enjoy exercise quite a bit but I also enjoy food: hence my 230 lb frame. I know I need to lose weight, and refrain from drinking. I don't exactly know what my afib "triggers" will be, but I plan to follow my cardiologist's advice and seek whatever treatment(s) I might need. Thank you!
That confirms my management scheme. I am a fit 72 year old but now avoid running especially if there is an anxiety element (running for a bus) so I do rowing up to 140 bpm Weight training. walking and electric biking (we have a lot of hills) an occasional refreshing beer is fine but 3 pints or more is too much.
I must admit alcohol effects my afib the worst . I only drink once every 6 weeks , but I don’t have 2, more like 10-30 beers at a time . It is hard to control with a hangover , and I must increase my pill intake for a few days . I don’t think being 300 pounds at 62 years old helps . Caffeine also triggers my afib, plus msg and artificial sweeteners. I wouldn’t doubt sugar is another thing that contributes to it
I am a 79 year old (in 2 weeks) retired ER physician and I am a rabid advocate of the health benefits of cycling. It truly works miracles and as an example I can still do 4 minute 19 second on the USAA Cycling 5 minute TT (a 4% average upgrade at 6300 foot elevation in Colorado Springs). I weigh low 170 pounds. I can't believe how good I still feel thanks to cycling BUT one area doctors never discuss (and this is huge) is alcohol and the heart. Alcohol is a potent cardiomyotoxin (meaning it is toxic to the heart muscle and causes heart muscle inflammation) but this is dose related. When I was in training I had a 23 year old die from his excessive alcohol intake causing congestive heart failure. In the ER I would see young people come in with an arrhythmia over the holidays due to excessive alcohol (thus the title "Holiday Heart"). As one gets older the risk of Atrial Fibrillation goes up logarithmically and AF can be exercise induced. AF causation is multifactorial and these precipitators make it much more likely during a ride: dehydration, low potassium, hypothermia (even drinking a smoothie can bring it on!), lack of sleep, too much caffeine, thyroid excess, and others. But no one ever seems to bring up the subject of excessive alcohol prior and the risk of AF. I love a nice red wine and this leaves me conflicted but I have found that half a bottle 2-3 days a week seems to not precipitate AF so one does not need to totally do without. My take home message to all us geriatric cycling advocates is keep all those precipitators to a minimum including alcohol and you can continue to partake of the Fountain of Youth and not need what most doctors would recommend: blood thinners or cardiac ablation! Also, watch your heart monitor (Garmin or whatever) like a hawk and when your rate starts getting in the upper ranges just back off to keep it out of trouble. Very high rate from exertion can bring on AF. AND be sure you are not overweight because any fatty tissue on your body gives off inflammatory cytokines (signaling molecules) which leave you in a chronically inflammed state prone to AF (and cancer). Several days ago I did 48 miler with 5000 feet of elevation gain. It was great.,
Why is there no study, ever, where the alcohol control group is drinking no more than one drink a day, or better, one drink 3 times a week? The alcohol control group where they are still drinking a lot tells nobody anything.
I've always wondered why when I drink my heart starts racing, as per this video, I have AFI ... also sometimes when I eat .... I'm making appointment to see my cardiologist... thank you
@@kevhurley6122 no sir, not necessarily. My cardiologist is going having wear a holster item for a day or two to monitor my heart, hopefully, it's show how my heart rate increases after I eat
@@Jaang29 About a year ago, I wore a Holter for two weeks. In my case, there was nothing really unusual in heart rate or rhythm. My pulse when I slept even got down to 56 bpm. The doctor's advice was to continue to exercise and get back to him if anything unusual happens. In other words, my case isn't medically (that they can detect) serious enough to prescribe medicine or ablation.
Afib is no joke coffee doesn't help either anything with caffeine or alcohol triggers my afib so have to accept the fact that I can't have either alcohol I can do without But coffee is a bit of a challenge so I just drink decaffeinated it's but it doesn't have the same effect.
I had atrial fibrillation last monday for the first time, went to ER. I had a large dinner, salad spinach, cucumber, lettuce and Balsamic vinegar mixed with a prepared spice and mustard. Afib started 10:30PM Medication given at ER. at 5 AM had a BM and spontaneously, the Afib was gone. Doc didnt considered my theory about the meal. THANK YOU
I'm been discovering literature about gastric problems triggering Afib. Anything that aggravates the gastric system, hernia, esophageal spasms etc. The heart doesn't like to have its space cramped.
Still, that’s a very small sample and I do agree. It probably does reduce possibility of a fib’s, and I can attest to the fact that ablation surgery does not stop it so maybe there’s a better way on the other hand I’d like to point out the longest living people do drink wine that’s a fact also, a fact is that we do not know all there is to know about ablation surgery
Whatever. I've had 3 ablations. I'm on various meds and still have afib episodes. I have afib with alcohol and, afib without alcohol. So...might as well enjoy alcohol if you want.
I don't drink. I don't smoke. My weight is about 150 lbs. Only when I have a heavy meal will my heart rate increase, usually in the 90 bpm range. It decreases over 1 to 3 hours until I go to bed.
@@roberthuot7887 If you don't have heart problems, drink up. Me? I can do without. It's no sacrifice. Now if you take away my black coffee, well, that's something I just don't want to think about. ;)
Dutch:alcohol zoals gin,wodka en jenever geven gèèn verhoogde frequentie.(AF)Bijna alle rode wijnen wel omdat er bij de malalactische fermentatie in het voorjaar catecholamines gemaakt worden die hiertoe dit veroorzaken !
My take home message after listening to the recommendations given here is stay away from doctors! AF is multifactorial and this means all precipitators must be controlled and not just alcohol.
Bad advice. Stroke is a serious complication of Afib. Some people can have ZERO aggravating factors, in their 20’s or 30’s, be athletes, and develop Afib.
Utter rubbish spoken about Australian drinking habits. Their consumption is almost exactly the same as the USA and only slightly more than the UK. So that proves how much research you've done for this article.
I've had afib for 30 years now. All I can say is drinking, even a small amount, ALWAYS has a negative affect for me. It's best to just start accepting that if you want to do all you can to stop your afib, abstinence is the only option. The sooner you accept this, the better.
Totally agree , tried to drink in moderation after my ablation and the a-fib started to return , that was it for me , no more alcohol .
Anything heart related you should abstain
Is there a cure for afib magnesium taurine etc or is it there for life
Amen Amen
@@paulbirkbeck1790no cure
For some people, dehydration is an Afib contributor. I’m surprised it is not mentioned more by doctors.
I read this as "Is Absinthe the best medicine" and got excited....
I had a very bad afib episode almost a year ago, I had to have cardioversion which was terrifying but worked, now even one drink sets off weird feelings in my chest and its always a day or two later I will get a minute or so of palpitations and i think my god here we go again.... thankfully it always stopped but it was time for alcohol to go completely, been six months dry now and I have been very well, i do miss a few beers though, but the thought of the cardioversion again keeps me on the straight and narrow.
I wasn’t really a drinker, but when I was diagnosed with afib and learned alcohol was a potent trigger I simply stopped. 0 alcohol, except what I use on my hands to kill any environmental covid virus. I’ve had two ablations and still get occasional breakthrough episodes, but try to do everything I can to minimise reoccurrence.
When I had my 2nd ablation, or ‘touch up’ as they call it, a fellow patient also having his 2nd procedure said he’d gone out for a pint with friends and his afib triggered. Lesson to be learned here.
Lessons indeed. I hope he's learned his. You're wise to abstain from alcohol. I don't count hand sanitizer as "imbibing" or ingesting in any way. It's topical and evaporates quickly.
im a life long athlete shock 2 friends and family mostly me thank doc for going the extra mile
I am a 77 year old retired ER physician and I am a rabid advocate of the health benefits of cycling. It truly works miracles and as an example I can still do a @ on the USAA Cycling 5 minute TT (a 4% average upgrade at 6300 foot elevation in Colorado Springs). I weigh low 170 pounds. I can't believe how good I still feel thanks to cycling BUT one area doctors never discuss (and this is huge) is alcohol and the heart. Alcohol is a potent cardiomyotoxin (meaning it is toxic to the heart muscle and causes heart muscle inflammation) but this is dose related. When I was in training I had a 23 year old die from his excessive alcohol intake causing congestive heart failure. In the ER I would see young people come in with an arrhythmia over the holidays due to excessive alcohol (thus the title "Holiday Heart"). As one gets older the risk of Atrial Fibrillation goes up logarithmically and AF can be exercise induced. AF causation is multifactorial and these precipitators make it much more likely during a ride: dehydration, low potassium, hypothermia (even drinking a smoothie can bring it on!), lack of sleep, too much caffeine, thyroid excess, and others. But no one ever seems to bring up the subject of excessive alcohol prior and the risk of AF. I love a nice red wine and this leaves me conflicted but I have found that half a bottle 2-3 days a week seems to not precipitate AF so one does not need to totally do without. My take home message to all us geriatric cycling advocates is keep all those precipitators to a minimum including alcohol and you can continue to partake of the Fountain of Youth and not need what most doctors would recommend: blood thinners or cardiac ablation!
Also, watch your heart monitor (Garmin or whatever) like a hawk and when your rate starts getting in the upper ranges just back off to keep it out of trouble. Very high rate from exertion can bring on AF.
You're inspiring sir! As a 37 year old who was recently in the ER with afib with RVR after a long "Holiday Heart" three day drinking an overeating holiday, this has been a wake-up call to say the least. I enjoy exercise quite a bit but I also enjoy food: hence my 230 lb frame. I know I need to lose weight, and refrain from drinking. I don't exactly know what my afib "triggers" will be, but I plan to follow my cardiologist's advice and seek whatever treatment(s) I might need. Thank you!
That confirms my management scheme. I am a fit 72 year old but now avoid running especially if there is an anxiety element (running for a bus) so I do rowing up to 140 bpm Weight training. walking and electric biking (we have a lot of hills) an occasional refreshing beer is fine but 3 pints or more is too much.
If I drink fruit juice I get AFib. So my sugar intake bothers me more than red wine
I must admit alcohol effects my afib the worst . I only drink once every 6 weeks , but I don’t have 2, more like 10-30 beers at a time . It is hard to control with a hangover , and I must increase my pill intake for a few days . I don’t think being 300 pounds at 62 years old helps .
Caffeine also triggers my afib, plus msg and artificial sweeteners. I wouldn’t doubt sugar is another thing that contributes to it
I am a 79 year old (in 2 weeks) retired ER physician and I am a rabid advocate of the health benefits of cycling. It truly works miracles and as an example I can still do 4 minute 19 second on the USAA Cycling 5 minute TT (a 4% average upgrade at 6300 foot elevation in Colorado Springs). I weigh low 170 pounds. I can't believe how good I still feel thanks to cycling BUT one area doctors never discuss (and this is huge) is alcohol and the heart. Alcohol is a potent cardiomyotoxin (meaning it is toxic to the heart muscle and causes heart muscle inflammation) but this is dose related. When I was in training I had a 23 year old die from his excessive alcohol intake causing congestive heart failure. In the ER I would see young people come in with an arrhythmia over the holidays due to excessive alcohol (thus the title "Holiday Heart"). As one gets older the risk of Atrial Fibrillation goes up logarithmically and AF can be exercise induced. AF causation is multifactorial and these precipitators make it much more likely during a ride: dehydration, low potassium, hypothermia (even drinking a smoothie can bring it on!), lack of sleep, too much caffeine, thyroid excess, and others. But no one ever seems to bring up the subject of excessive alcohol prior and the risk of AF. I love a nice red wine and this leaves me conflicted but I have found that half a bottle 2-3 days a week seems to not precipitate AF so one does not need to totally do without. My take home message to all us geriatric cycling advocates is keep all those precipitators to a minimum including alcohol and you can continue to partake of the Fountain of Youth and not need what most doctors would recommend: blood thinners or cardiac ablation!
Also, watch your heart monitor (Garmin or whatever) like a hawk and when your rate starts getting in the upper ranges just back off to keep it out of trouble. Very high rate from exertion can bring on AF. AND be sure you are not overweight because any fatty tissue on your body gives off inflammatory cytokines (signaling molecules) which leave you in a chronically inflammed state prone to AF (and cancer).
Several days ago I did 48 miler with 5000 feet of elevation gain. It was great.,
Why is there no study, ever, where the alcohol control group is drinking no more than one drink a day, or better, one drink 3 times a week? The alcohol control group where they are still drinking a lot tells nobody anything.
I’ve significantly reduced my alcohol input which has benefitted my afib
I've always wondered why when I drink my heart starts racing, as per this video, I have AFI ... also sometimes when I eat .... I'm making appointment to see my cardiologist... thank you
@@kevhurley6122 no sir, not necessarily. My cardiologist is going having wear a holster item for a day or two to monitor my heart, hopefully, it's show how my heart rate increases after I eat
@@kevhurley6122 have there been studies about this ? thank you
You can't kill what's not alive.
@@KingAeetes huh ?
@@Jaang29 About a year ago, I wore a Holter for two weeks. In my case, there was nothing really unusual in heart rate or rhythm. My pulse when I slept even got down to 56 bpm. The doctor's advice was to continue to exercise and get back to him if anything unusual happens. In other words, my case isn't medically (that they can detect) serious enough to prescribe medicine or ablation.
Afib is no joke coffee doesn't help either anything with caffeine or alcohol triggers my afib so have to accept the fact that I can't have either alcohol I can do without
But coffee is a bit of a challenge so I just drink decaffeinated it's but it doesn't have the same effect.
Thank you…
Good study, but amazed there are not more.
Alcohol never made any difference with me.
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I had atrial fibrillation last monday for the first time, went to ER. I had a large dinner, salad spinach, cucumber, lettuce and Balsamic vinegar mixed with a prepared spice and mustard. Afib started 10:30PM
Medication given at ER. at 5 AM had a BM and spontaneously, the Afib was gone. Doc didnt considered my theory about the meal. THANK YOU
I'm been discovering literature about gastric problems triggering Afib. Anything that aggravates the gastric system, hernia, esophageal spasms etc. The heart doesn't like to have its space cramped.
That’s Vagal AFIB
@@edwardbaker1331 I swear this was my trigger for Afib as I have some of these issues. I don think alcohol is a trigger for me
this a great thanku not easy
Still, that’s a very small sample and I do agree. It probably does reduce possibility of a fib’s, and I can attest to the fact that ablation surgery does not stop it so maybe there’s a better way on the other hand I’d like to point out the longest living people do drink wine that’s a fact also, a fact is that we do not know all there is to know about ablation surgery
Ok to drink as long as you drink lots of electrolytes prior to drinking alcohol. One drink or two in one night will not trigger AFIB
Do you mean like gatorade?
Whatever. I've had 3 ablations. I'm on various meds and still have afib episodes. I have afib with alcohol and, afib without alcohol. So...might as well enjoy alcohol if you want.
All thanks to doctor Alued on RUclips who cure me from heart disease thank you #doctoralued
Alcohol is also a carcinogen and can contribute to various kinds of cancer like breast. Also, being overweight.
I don't drink. I don't smoke. My weight is about 150 lbs. Only when I have a heavy meal will my heart rate increase, usually in the 90 bpm range. It decreases over 1 to 3 hours until I go to bed.
Life is too short not to drink.
@@roberthuot7887 If you don't have heart problems, drink up. Me? I can do without. It's no sacrifice. Now if you take away my black coffee, well, that's something I just don't want to think about. ;)
I was trying to be funny. There's nothing funny with alcohol problems. Please accept my apologies. Good luck, AND GOD BLESS.
@@roberthuot7887 No problems, Robert. I know where you're coming from - just trying to keep it light. You have a good one too.
@@paulbradford6475 thanks, and let the foolishness in Russia end. GOD bless.
Dutch:alcohol zoals gin,wodka en jenever geven gèèn verhoogde frequentie.(AF)Bijna alle rode wijnen wel omdat er bij de malalactische fermentatie in het voorjaar catecholamines gemaakt worden die hiertoe dit veroorzaken !
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Its the day after....
It does not work. So now I have not my nice white wine and afib.
Take liquid magnesium. My afib went away.
i feel great great the devils drug alcohol my trigger thank u
this guy is 67 like i'm Abe Lincoln. or maybe he's not talkin' bout guy in picture
Ha ha ha!! I thought that too!!
Me too because if he's 67, I'm having what he's having.
Yeah, it's called "click bait." If they'd used some old guy leaning on a cane downing a pint would you have clicked on it? ;)
@@paulbradford6475 yes, it's probably my twin.
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1-2 every day is a LOT of alcohol!
My take home message after listening to the recommendations given here is stay away from doctors! AF is multifactorial and this means all precipitators must be controlled and not just alcohol.
Bad advice. Stroke is a serious complication of Afib. Some people can have ZERO aggravating factors, in their 20’s or 30’s, be athletes, and develop Afib.
Utter rubbish spoken about Australian drinking habits. Their consumption is almost exactly the same as the USA and only slightly more than the UK. So that proves how much research you've done for this article.