Printing Money With My Sawmill...Wood Costs How Much??
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Milling white oak went much better than expected. Thanks for watching, and for those interested, yes, I am still working on my Johnson! Currently waiting for parts. Coming soon! Lol.
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Sawmill...or Money Printer? Wood Costs What??
Printing Money With My Sawmill...Basically.
Hope you all have an excellent weekend! Yes, I am still working on my Johnson (SMH) but it's taking a bit to get parts. Cheers everybody!
Totally save the disks from the punky log, and cut more of those disks. First of all, shorter boards still have a ton of uses, and the disks you cut off will make excellent knife and/or axe throwing targets. :-) Axe throwing is big now!
Merry Christmas to you and yours, I'm fixing my house so I can move back and get some property right look forward to doing this for sure thanks for sharing look forward to hearing from yorder the ear from them by for now Ken.
What is a Johnson (SMH)?
Just toss some VIAGRA at your Johnson . . . but it's just a 'temporary fix' ! ;) * I've worked on some of them from the 50's , & had to get creative with making parts ! ** It's amazing how parts like coils / points can be made to work . . . though it takes some creative engiNERDing . . . HO HO HO ! ! !
@Berrnie Mccannaster The flat side of the blade runs against bearings. Those bearing absorb the force from pushing against the log. Sharp tooth would not work well.
I love how it's always something different on this channel... not everything is something I'd search for but I still enjoy the randomness.
Hint from a sawyer that cut some logs for me. Most useful hardwood boards are over 4 feet long, so if you cut a log at 8 feet and there is a big defect at the midpoint then you won't get any 4 foot boards. So cut at 9 feet or more and you will almost surely get some 4 foot boards.
what are 4ft boards good for? is this a furniture maker thing? {i live in a desert. whats a tree?}
@@DieselRamcharger hardwood floors, I’d assume. Or furniture
You went straight from playing with your Johnson to handling your wood. Nice job!
What most people don't see is the initial investment mill skidsteer or tractor the shed for the mill the land to stack store the lumber then the actual work of cutting stacking of the cut lumber the maintenance lot of work but a nice feeling of accomplishment
and the land to grow the trees etc
I hope you went back for the stump! That's some good woodburl right there!
If the stump was left with a few more feet of wood on it it would make nice slabs. I would think.
This is my favourite channel on RUclips by far. I love the diverse variety of different FarmCraft related things that we get to explore and learn about with you. 😎👍
To improve on costs you could probably create a moveable catchment device that runs the entire length of the mill to catch the saw dust shooting out and sell it later, or even use it for your farm.
Make pellets for a pellet stove, or for the kiln??
Just hang a bag on it
I worked in a sawmill White Oak and red oak is the top-selling hard Lumber there is in the United States other than Walnut and Cedar Cedar's getting harder and harder to find you always cut your logs long because you can never add but you can always subtract so it's best to keep his logs long so that way you can cut them besides you need them at the time of needing them
The cost would depend on the grain cut, plain sawn would be around $1,000 and quarter sawn would be around $2,500
That was an awesome look at your one-man lumber operation. Thanks for sharing.
I like that manual winch with the hook that detaches from your sawmill. Very useful tool
Sawmills are awesome, great video. Love this content. Great work with making your videos.
So what you are saying is that when you're not playing with your Johnson you're getting wood?
Excellent vid as always, cheers. 😁🍻👍
Love your videos. They are highly educational and inspirational for DIY everything! Keep it up 🙏✌
I like the common sense approach to this channel. The mindset and can do attitude is none existent with the current young society. That's their problem in which this retired veteran doesn't entertain. No wonder we see young adults always trying to exploit the older society. One is talk and the other shows how to getter done with action and education.
Thanks for all your doing it’s awesome! My grandad always shared his sawmill stories when he was a kid but he would share them around the campfire when we would go hunting as a kid and the sawmill was right next to the campsite we have 360 acres up there in tanaskit
Nature is the Best teacher🌻 with farmcraft's help by calculations to apply it for us! Money does grow IN trees🌻🌻
I have a similar sized white oak. That I will be milling soon. Hope you post the process of making the tongue and groove on it! Mine will be turning into a deck.
Very satisfying to watch. I wish I had some of that oak, I want to make a hardwood dining table one day.
I love having my own sawmill, and with all the build projects i have, it helps
That is fascinating. Thanks for sharing the whole process.
Coincidentally I was just walking through the hardwood boards section of menards yesterday. About 4 months after this video was made an 8ft white oak 2x6 was $130 retail.
Dang that’s alot
We did same job in later 70's. Worked like dogs on neighbors property, which he needed cleared.
We used this giant mule (woh and go) to drag logs out, and then when done, we cleared it out of all over story.
Then shared sawed the logs. Some guy came and he took his share for milling wood. Then we made two 13 foot stacks, stickered every two feet of white and red oak, chinquapin, madrone and some others.
I tell you we worked like dogs; and the whole batch twisted into pretzels. Half was firewood.
My suggestion, keep a close eye on humid content and sticker distance. Of course this wood was outside in Oregon, in the shade.
First sign of tweaking on your stacks, break it up and put stickers closer together. Lastly I would not make huge piles like we did. Something manageable , so you would not hesitate to tear it apart. Don't count your board feet, until the chickens - you know what I mean.
That’s awesome I used to work on our ranch up in eastern wa. Running our saw mill in tanaskit, omak area
did some digging the last time and the term cant very likely comes from its middle Dutch/Low German root kant/kante meaning edge or in some cases border. So a log with 4 edges is a cant(-wood).
in german as well as dutch it is spelled with a k and not a c In german the word is Kantholz and i think they made a more sound Englisch using the c What I find interesting is the expression middle Dutch / low German Where does that come from?
@@robsterenborg I got that stuff from the german and english wiktionary on Kante and just combined it
@@robsterenborg German, English and Dutch are closely related languages from the same Germanic language family with Norman, Celtic, and Scandinavian admixtures present in English. The consonants "c" and "k" can have the same sound; the spelling of words changed over the many hundreds of years with vowel shifts and consonant shifts occurring in the past.
@@heimatliebe116 i know ! i am dutch and live in germany. What I don't get is middle dutch ! The only explanation is that dutch is geographically and linguistically in the middle. Probably someone screwed up and mixed one thing with the other
@@robsterenborg "Middle Dutch is a collective name for a number of closely related West Germanic dialects whose ancestor was Old Dutch and was spoken and written between 1150 and 1500." (source: Wikipedia)
I’m new here. I appreciate (!) seeing you take your time to answer questions…
Carry on.
If you can get $8/boardfoot for green white oak than you should buy from other mills and just sell. Where I’m at in Michigan white oak off the mill goes for $3/boardfoot
Sir ,I'm self taught and had many "potatoe chips, I'm 70 welded in my DIY garage many helpful things and Sir you just taught me something I didn't figure out.
Thks for using dead fell trees to make your lumber out of i hope more lumber millers do the same, Awesome.
I like this! My saw mill paid for itself in three months just milling cedar. I have to get a boom hoist thingy like yours!
Hay this is great. How lucky are you having a resource like this so close.
Impressive system you have. Nice camera work and editing.
In Canada where I am 4/4 white oak select and better goes for at least $11 per bd ft. If you have a 16” DIB 12’ long you’re looking at approximately 100 bd ft so if you got 2 logs that’s about $2200.
Just had 14 ash and poplar taken down at my place and I'm bringing in a guy w a portable sawmill. One of the ash is 40" diameter (not even sure how we're going to handle that one!). I have about 90 logs to cut!!
I guess the top was unusable for lumber . well more firewood. Good job you didn't have to fell it
Your quality of film work and production is superb
Here in Canada, most provinces require lumber used for liveable spaces to be grade stamped or approved by an Engineer.
Outbuildings are normally OK to use without,, dang government. Keep those vids coming!!
This channel has become a favorite of mine.😊
To curl or lift when you're at full load... hold down the valve while in reverse then tap on the brakes. It'll jerk the load and you'll get that tilt.
I'm brand spank'n new to the channel so sorry if I stay something stupid...which has been known to happen a time or two...or three...or four.... oh, you get the idea. Anyway, if you don't have one, I HIGHLY recommend a grapple for your tractor. I can't tell you how much work, and back misery, mine has save me hauling logs, brush, rock...
PS. I really like your channel so far. Good sense of humor which I believe makes the world a better place, at least my world is doing okay but, I'm not as funny as I think I am.. at least that's what my wife tells me. 😁
Have you wondered about moving the cutting scale to an ajustable slide, so you can Set the cuts to a less arbitrary measure? Like to the closest inch ? Reset to a 5/4 starting point for ease of counting?
My goal is to buy some land (either with or without a house on it) build a massive workshop, wood storage area, and kiln space, and process my own wood and build what I want. Hopefully this can be obtained before i turn 35 (which is 11 years from now).
New name for you Cheap Charlie thank you for making me laugh!!!
I need that mill. And the farm lol. Awesome! Curious what you used the wood for? Flooring (nvm you said)? That tree was standing dead for some time before it fell. Typically can’t use trees dead that long for lumber (decorative uses are fine of course). Insects and rot act quickly to weaken it too much. Firewood - perfect. Better to use live trees for lumber. Save the dead ones for firewood. If a live tree gets blown over (roots are still attached) that can be salvaged for lumber within a couple of weeks or more if it’s cold. Good learning process!
Just need a expensive tractor, a mill and finishing tools (planer etc) to make save all that money but hey if you already have it you’re good.
I don't know about white oak but that much red would cost a few thousand retail where I'm at. It's pricey but it's my favorite wood to work with; fancy but not overpowering. That said, Birdseye and Curly maple are hands down the prettiest.
Priceless
I am at the comment notice, so I thought I would.
First John, fabulous piece of White Oak. Makes the last piece of Ash look tiny.
I buy my Birch, Maple & White Oak from a small mill south of Middleburgh NY called Cooksburge lumber run by Ray and his brother. Ray a former teacher and his brother bought the business off their uncle on his retirement. Nice bunch of fellows and fabulous to have a mill so close because it really keeps the price down.
I last bought from Ray about 120 linear feet of Birch, Maple and Ambrosia plus one very heavy plank of White Oak that by itself added another 15 feet. I think on average each rough cut board is 8 inches. As I remember the total cost was $120 and about half of the wood was Birch, but I am not sure what the actual species costs are.
Granted it was rough cut and I plane it before using the wood, but had I bought this same wood surfaced four sides from a retailer I'd be robbing banks up and down the East Coast to pay for it. Too old for that and my dog Buddy would frown on the idea.
Ray and crew also sell plenty of Hemlock, but for what I make the hardwoods are a must. I must add I found the same kind of pricing at a huge mill called Ghent which is 60 miles to the east of me near Hudson NY. My experiences suggest that whatever drove up lumber prices recently was not at the actual mill end of the stream or even upstream of the mill.
I must say I still shudder over seeing $100 plywood. I remember building a boat when I was 21 back in the late 1970s and back then even marine grade plywood was well below current prices. I'd say if you want to build a camp or shed today use rough cut from a mill. Even all hardwood should cost less in the end if compared to construction lumber.
For more information on my local mill follow the hyperlink below:
footnote: Wow, $8 a board foot at your local mill. Wonder what the difference between here and the Sout-East mill price is. It can't be I mostly buy Birch. Nice stack of White Oak. That will be one sweet front porch.
www.cooksburglumber.com/
In October 2022 I purchased a 100mm x 50mm x 2.4 metre (2" x 4" x 94" ) dressed piece of pine which cost me AUD$52.76. BC (Before COVID-19) it was a third that price. The actual dressed size was 94mm x 45mm x 2.4mts. I would very much like your little stick of wood (and I am referring to the C6H12O6) and a sawmill to go with it. 👍
We all run out o f gas John 😂😂
That is AWESOME.
Love the videos keep it up would love to see more videos with your sawmill and kilm
Hi John, you did mention that you are a farmer, so are all farmers as talented as you are? Cus after watching your videos, I started to have a lot more respect for farmers.
See I know and are friends with a few so called farm boys but they are nowhere as smart and capable as you.
Thanks for the great videos, and love to see more videos of you working on your Johnson.
It’s impossible to generalise farmers or land owners. There are different types. Some may have grown up on the family farm & that is all they know and they’ve never been taught many practical skills. They also may not have much money so they can’t afford to do much. Some may not have much motivation or suffer from a disability so the land gets overgrown. Some are old and don’t have the ability they once had but they don’t want to leave.
Others are the opposite. They have knowledge, skills, wisdom, tools, money, time and the rest to make a farm productive,
As always great. I am patiently waiting for the Johnson
Depends on what kind of wood it is!!!
Well buy time you pay for the land, the mill , tractor ,fuel and your time and you have the skill to mill your own logs without hurting yourself its saving money
The name originates from I can't lift it alone.
Hence, a heavy, bulky piece of wood is called a Cant
I am addicted to your videos
Awesome; I like your log roller :)))
I share your confusion on the alchemy mentality of hydraulic cylinders. I once had an Internaional 350 Utility Tractor with a loader. The load deer had been abused before I purchased the tractor. The cylinder shafts were hollow so that there was only a large O-ring to seal the cylinder. Well, as I said, due to abuse those shafts being abused, they were bent slightly causing significant wear on the O-rings and thus, leaking. I took them to my IH dealer who sent them to their repair shop who gave me an estimate of $500 per cylinder to repair them. The O-rings were 10 bucks apiece. I opted for the O-rings. They would last several years between failures. I mean, what rocket scientist decided a hollow shafts was ever a good idea for a hydraulic cylinder for a loader that would inherently experience lateral loading? It was all working fine when I sold the tractor.
Nice, Cant wait to see the DIY Kiln video.
ruclips.net/video/Y2NE92rNyTY/видео.html
@@FarmCraft101 Ahhh Thanks!
Wishing I had access to get white oat.
Great you are making useful lumber.
And the punky wod to wood turners.
So we've progressed from playing with your Johnson to playing with your Wood, at least it's hard this time instead of worn out and limp on the inside
those are insane prices, I would never pay that, or any where like it. Either wait or do it another way, that did not require the wood.
212 x 8 is 1696, so it’s closer to $1700 than $1600. Nice work!
Hi Mate, I have only just discovered your channel and am loving it. Question, Why don't you put a collection bag on the sawdust shute to save it blowing every where?? Great for the compost bin.
Cheers from Oz.
Satisfying.
You could probabl sell the chips to the meat curing industry or hobbyists aswell probably at a better price per board foot.
I always look for ward to seeing your videos.
Very cool
Really enjoyed your hydraulic cylinder rebuild vid. Decided to subscribe.
Good video!
I figure you could have put the two cants side by side and got two bords out of every cut and that way you would've saved some time.
Is there a reason you didn't?
If your blade is a little dull, sawing 2 cants can really take forever, so 1 is better. With a nice sharp blade, 2 moderately sized cants cut fine.
I love having a sawmill but the most annoying part is having to put gas in it. I have the WM 130 max and the gas tank is in somewhat of an awkward location. I can't wait for the gas to battery conversion kit.
I can't help it but every time I watch one of you guys home milling lumber from the raw trees especially oak, I can't help but start vocalizing to myself, "No! Stop! " when you get to the giant beam stage of the cant (which somewhat surprisingly is not clear as to the definition of). I just imagine these giant oak timbers building some massive structure that is impervious to anything man or nature can dish out. (Except fire) Wind, rain, snow, small arms fire, arrows and some larger rocks thrown by angry peasants.
Everybody else on RUclips is building charcuterie boards and selling them.
Love yr work
You make Great Video's
U said u found the Dead Tree laying on the Ground
Do you have a program for Regular inspections
Of all your forests & trees
Trees Dye whilst they are still Vertical & not Rotting on the Ground
Can u not search & check for dying trees to cut down earlier.
Utilise them rather then waste em.
It would cost a lot if you bought white oak from a lumber yard but if you have local sawmillers and an abundance of white oak in your area not bad but still more than you had to spend provided your equipment you already own. Very nice.
i want to put a sun roof on my Mahindra as well. A lid from a step side pickup would be a good width . Hard to find.
Nice Video - I guessed 1500 for all three :)
Do you know roughly how much it cost to saw those? Like gas, saw blade wear and so on? And how many hours did it take you?
But great job! I only need a saw mill and then I can go the full path from tree to furniture. I envy the space you got!
Actual cost is minimal. It's really all labor once you have the equipment. I can definitely do the whole job in around 8 hours including dropping a similar tree, bucking, dragging, milling, stacking. That's working hard for 8 hours. Often my days are more hectic and I won't have a full 8 hours to work on 1 thing, so I do it in 2 or 3 shorter blocks of time. Fuel, maybe a gallon or two. A blade is about $30 and can be sharpened, so I can mill thousands of board feet with a single blade.
@@FarmCraft101 Yeah, time is costly if not priceless :) thanks for the reply!
The initial investment in the mill is the killer.
@@FarmCraft101 yes time is money but if you do it on Saturday or Sunday or after tea then it costs nothing much in labour.
You are assuming that all the equipment you have is mostly free. I think to be fair, you need to prorate a realistic cost of your milling equipment, fuel, and an actual cost for your time. I know that cutting your own wood is a real bonus, but is not free. Thanks for your video.
Which is more? One of those cants or one of those red cans?
love your videos buddy
Frankly, the ofcuts and even rotten log could have small stuff that, even thoigh it requires much more labour, has a bigger margin on them. Small offcuts are loved by epoxy guys and various small scale crafters. Hell I would even like some for making wooden hand planes.
well, in Norway these days it would sell for 2500-4000$ for each m3/30cubicfeet of dry, furniture grade wood.
I don't think my local Menards even has clear white oak. I know they have red oak. Premium $$$ for sure.
Is it called a Cant because you CAN'T move it alone?
1600 dollars minus the gas used in the tractor and sawmill and the electricity used by the kiln = plus minus 0. Just kidding but I can bet that it almost feels like that for people like you out on the countryside.
Awesome video:)
Nature is a Much more peaceful 'office' 🗽He can get his electricity from sun.🌻
Nature is a Much more peaceful 'office' 🗽He can get his electricity from sun.🌻
Wow! That's a lot of $. I was going to guess $500. But I have no clue about wood cant's and board feet. I did notice that you were following your rules from last episode about cutting wood.
here in sweden I think maybe around $5000 even if it was live edge. But that's home center prices so you would maybe get half of that for some reason.
Is there a video that shows what land is actually yours? The drone footage would probably help there:P
Your saw blade always cuts like it’s just been sharpened. What brand chains do you prefer and what type of sharpening. I just use a round and flat file.
So what about the rest of the tree. It looked like you had potential for another 8 feet of log left. I also wondered why you didn't cut the cants at the same time on the first log, but then you did on the second. From what I've seen in other YT videos on sawing lumber, it would make sense to keep the logs as long as possible in case there are bad spots in the middle... armchair QBing is easy though :)
I've always heard that tool called a cant-i-lever.
You mentioned a word when describing the wood and why it was no good. Could you explain what "punky" is and maybe demonstrate why it is only good for the fire?
$4.00 - $5.00 a board foot for white oak that hasnt been kiln dry. Guessing 300 board feet. So $1200.00 - $1500.00. Then minus your time to cut it, mill it, plane it and dry it.
very interesting stuff, cheers!
You shouldn’t complain about prices Larch cost are £8 per board in Scotland 6x1 x3.6 mtr wish I had trees like you have on my farm
hello, at about 6mins in you say the tractor is at its limit lefting those two oaks. was wondering, if you extend the back hoe outwards wood that help? not sure if the tractor can operate with the hoe out. please let me know thanks
Awesome
8 dollars a board foot? I've been thinking its more like 4. Maybe it's 8 for finished lumber and 4 for rough cut? But then again, I've seen 25$ a board foot for white oak slabs on the home depot website.
I'm thinking you got about 10K on the forest floor, maybe more!