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I agree with Andrew. I'm a 37 year old average Asian guy- maybe below average since I'm 5'2"- but I decided in my early 20s that I wanted to join the fight and help to break some stereotypes for Asian Americans - either in entertainment, dating, or in leadership positions. Although I would have loved to be a romantic lead in Hollywood, I felt that my chances of success would have have been small and I'm convinced today that not moving to LA to be an actor was the best thing that never happened. Instead, I went with a career in communications/PR as one of the few Asians at Cornell University and moved up the ranks to a senior executive position in the government, and married a 10 (white woman). I also taught hip hop dancing and breakdancing locally, and ended up dating a fair amount of women. I may never be famous or heard of, but in a small way, reached 2 out of 3 goals. When I go out in public with my wife and kids, or lead a meeting or project at work, I feel like I'm changing stereotypes daily in a small way. If only tens of thousands of Asian men across the country did the same thing - that collective effect would have an impact in the community level that can over a long period of time, perhaps a generation, change culture like a movie would. I think 10,000 Asian average men making community level changes (running for local office, leading their company/organization, dating, teaching classes, etc.) is better than those 10,000 striking out in Hollywood (net of 0 impact).
The media has to portray Asians in a better light. There is a lack of representation in TV, Film, Radio, Print, Sports, Music and Fashion. Whenever there is some representation, it is in a negative light (bad stereotypes or portraying us as geeks). Overall, we can't let this knock us down. We have to keep moving forward and get more Asians involved in everything I mentioned above in front of the camera and behind the scenes. In addition, we need to keep creating more content that shows us in a better light. Sometimes the best way to promote each other is by creating out own projects. Furthermore, we need to support each other. It doesn't have to be financially, but it helps. I am talking about promoting one another. All in all, we have to go out and do what we are passionate about.
Just FYI, that's not how graduated tax brackets work... Graduated tax brackets mean that the more money you make, the higher percentage of taxes you pay. Billionaires don't pay taxes because most of their wealth is trapped in illiquid investments or unrealized stock market gains. You only pay taxes when those gains are realized and for many investments, you pay the capital gains rate, which is typically lower than the traditional income tax rate.
I had a pretty academic background when reading about Asian American Male issues and I was kinda nervous about how they were going to talk about this from a casual background (I watched Fung Bros videos growing up occasionally), but honestly a lot of this seems pretty on point and tracks with a lot of what I've read. We definitely gotta work that much harder for status as an Asian guy but we don't really have an ongoing cultural discussion on this. Really glad to see this conversation in a super accessible relatively mainstream way. References: Bamboo ceiling (prevents upward mobility in Business, Entertainment, Sports, Politics, Management (even in overrepresented fields like STEM and academia), Model Minority Myth, Sessue Hayakawa (early Hollywood Japanese American actor heartthrob), Emasculation of Asian men, origins of dry cleaning and restaurants for Asian men (seen as feminine labor) Also the comparison to Black Male culture to be self aware of the discrimination as men of color is super useful. It's a matter of survival and understanding "why is this not working, is it me? or is it the fact that I'm an Asian guy?"
@@LuckyBoysPodcast --Same questions/topics/format as this video. For example, I believe that there are just as many misconceptions about Asian American women with regards to beauty/appearances, especially when compared to their non-Asian counterparts. I'm curious about how you (Asian American males) view beauty standards ("levels") with respect to Asian American women. Do the same "compensation" strategies for Asian American men apply to Asian American women, etc.?
@@LuckyBoysPodcast lol i think this is a fair criticism of podcast speaking style etiquette, just a matter of craft that I hope can improve. Also I definitely relate as a passionate speaking Asian guy! Unfortunately reminds me of my dad and uncles yelling at each other at a get together at a big table lmaooo... very male Asian dude energy, but I'd rather see this than see a bunch of quiet Asian guys without any emotion or opinions, lacking confidence, because that's too easy to internalize, as this even conversation talks about
9:08 Says it ALL. Loved that comment about not moving the tribe forward. I used to know this 6'6" good looking dude from Mainland CN who just stayed in his San Gabriel enclave as a kitchen hand for a Chinese restaurant whose customers were primarily local 626 people and Mainland transplants. I'm like wtf dude you're fricken 6'6"!!?! Why are you wasting your life "behind the scenes" here?? You need to get out into the White community and start mingling! At least start making impressions on non -Asians that we too can be NBA sized. The rest of America needs to know about you! ( which by default would "move the tribe forward"). Imagine if he worked as a waiter for a Dim Sum restaurant out on the West Side, his life could do a 180 instead of being enslaved to a stuffy kitchen in his adopted but limited community. I always wondered how Americans/Hollywood would have stereo typed us differently if the Northerners came to the US first instead of us short to average height Southern Cantonese.
Shout out to the Fung Bros…on this particular topic I think you guys are over shooting your point. You’ve measured Asian males on the white imposed beauty matrix- you guys over emphasized height and good looks. These are the universal traits that are accepted in any culture. Not just the white culture. I’ve seen tall Asian guys that are nerdy and got no game and therefore are reduced to being average. Then there’s a case of one Vietnamese- American cat that I know who is killing the success game…He is 5”4, funny FOB looking, big buck teeth, came to America at the age of 9, still speaks with a slight accent; but yet he graduated with an MBA, got a high power corporate job and he’s married to a fine white girl, how do you explain that? I just think that at the end of the day life is what you make of it it has to do with your mindset: you either have a fixed mindset or growth mindset.
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Other communities being self-aware that they have to play the game differently: on point af
The game is evolving and always changing.
I agree with Andrew. I'm a 37 year old average Asian guy- maybe below average since I'm 5'2"- but I decided in my early 20s that I wanted to join the fight and help to break some stereotypes for Asian Americans - either in entertainment, dating, or in leadership positions. Although I would have loved to be a romantic lead in Hollywood, I felt that my chances of success would have have been small and I'm convinced today that not moving to LA to be an actor was the best thing that never happened. Instead, I went with a career in communications/PR as one of the few Asians at Cornell University and moved up the ranks to a senior executive position in the government, and married a 10 (white woman). I also taught hip hop dancing and breakdancing locally, and ended up dating a fair amount of women. I may never be famous or heard of, but in a small way, reached 2 out of 3 goals. When I go out in public with my wife and kids, or lead a meeting or project at work, I feel like I'm changing stereotypes daily in a small way. If only tens of thousands of Asian men across the country did the same thing - that collective effect would have an impact in the community level that can over a long period of time, perhaps a generation, change culture like a movie would. I think 10,000 Asian average men making community level changes (running for local office, leading their company/organization, dating, teaching classes, etc.) is better than those 10,000 striking out in Hollywood (net of 0 impact).
The media has to portray Asians in a better light. There is a lack of representation in TV, Film, Radio, Print, Sports, Music and Fashion. Whenever there is some representation, it is in a negative light (bad stereotypes or portraying us as geeks). Overall, we can't let this knock us down. We have to keep moving forward and get more Asians involved in everything I mentioned above in front of the camera and behind the scenes. In addition, we need to keep creating more content that shows us in a better light. Sometimes the best way to promote each other is by creating out own projects. Furthermore, we need to support each other. It doesn't have to be financially, but it helps. I am talking about promoting one another. All in all, we have to go out and do what we are passionate about.
Just FYI, that's not how graduated tax brackets work... Graduated tax brackets mean that the more money you make, the higher percentage of taxes you pay. Billionaires don't pay taxes because most of their wealth is trapped in illiquid investments or unrealized stock market gains. You only pay taxes when those gains are realized and for many investments, you pay the capital gains rate, which is typically lower than the traditional income tax rate.
Damn bro thx for the tip
I freaking love the fung bros, they know what they’re talking about
They are both immature idiots who think they are black they should act their age and find real jobs.
Alternative take: Most "Average Asians" are above average when compared to most Americans, I mean, they're great at just about everything 🤷
I had a pretty academic background when reading about Asian American Male issues and I was kinda nervous about how they were going to talk about this from a casual background (I watched Fung Bros videos growing up occasionally), but honestly a lot of this seems pretty on point and tracks with a lot of what I've read. We definitely gotta work that much harder for status as an Asian guy but we don't really have an ongoing cultural discussion on this. Really glad to see this conversation in a super accessible relatively mainstream way.
References: Bamboo ceiling (prevents upward mobility in Business, Entertainment, Sports, Politics, Management (even in overrepresented fields like STEM and academia), Model Minority Myth, Sessue Hayakawa (early Hollywood Japanese American actor heartthrob), Emasculation of Asian men, origins of dry cleaning and restaurants for Asian men (seen as feminine labor)
Also the comparison to Black Male culture to be self aware of the discrimination as men of color is super useful. It's a matter of survival and understanding "why is this not working, is it me? or is it the fact that I'm an Asian guy?"
Interesting interview! Thanks for showcasing the Fung Bros.!
You bet!
Please have the same conversation about Asian American women because I'm interested in your thoughts about that demographic. Thanks.
What exactly would you like us to cover about Asian American women specifically?
@@LuckyBoysPodcast --Same questions/topics/format as this video. For example, I believe that there are just as many misconceptions about Asian American women with regards to beauty/appearances, especially when compared to their non-Asian counterparts. I'm curious about how you (Asian American males) view beauty standards ("levels") with respect to Asian American women. Do the same "compensation" strategies for Asian American men apply to Asian American women, etc.?
In my experience, Asian women get accepted everywhere whereas Asian dudes have prove our worth.
Thanks for the awesome content guys!
Can I say it's all about self-esteem??????
It certainly starts there.
It’s interesting what they are talking about but the fact that they always keep talking over each other pisses me off
lol thanks... got some passionate moments during the conversation. much prefer to have asians speak up!
@@LuckyBoysPodcast lol i think this is a fair criticism of podcast speaking style etiquette, just a matter of craft that I hope can improve. Also I definitely relate as a passionate speaking Asian guy! Unfortunately reminds me of my dad and uncles yelling at each other at a get together at a big table lmaooo... very male Asian dude energy, but I'd rather see this than see a bunch of quiet Asian guys without any emotion or opinions, lacking confidence, because that's too easy to internalize, as this even conversation talks about
Great combination pure thunder
Do it for the tribe
Who is the guy in the thumbnail?
9:08 Says it ALL. Loved that comment about not moving the tribe forward. I used to know this 6'6" good looking dude from Mainland CN who just stayed in his San Gabriel enclave as a kitchen hand for a Chinese restaurant whose customers were primarily local 626 people and Mainland transplants. I'm like wtf dude you're fricken 6'6"!!?! Why are you wasting your life "behind the scenes" here?? You need to get out into the White community and start mingling! At least start making impressions on non
-Asians that we too can be NBA sized. The rest of America needs to know about you! ( which by default would "move the tribe forward"). Imagine if he worked as a waiter for a Dim Sum restaurant out on the West Side, his life could do a 180 instead of being enslaved to a stuffy kitchen in his adopted but limited community. I always wondered how Americans/Hollywood would have stereo typed us differently if the Northerners came to the US first instead of us short to average height Southern Cantonese.
WTF is this dude talkin about? Did he just say a males appearance is what determines if he has an easy life or not? BRUH.
It's true
Shout out to the Fung Bros…on this particular topic I think you guys are over shooting your point. You’ve measured Asian males on the white imposed beauty matrix- you guys over emphasized height and good looks. These are the universal traits that are accepted in any culture. Not just the white culture. I’ve seen tall Asian guys that are nerdy and got no game and therefore are reduced to being average. Then there’s a case of one Vietnamese- American cat that I know who is killing the success game…He is 5”4, funny FOB looking, big buck teeth, came to America at the age of 9, still speaks with a slight accent; but yet he graduated with an MBA, got a high power corporate job and he’s married to a fine white girl, how do you explain that? I just think that at the end of the day life is what you make of it it has to do with your mindset: you either have a fixed mindset or growth mindset.
Bong Joon Ho
Nba def racist
I hate how Asians talk over eachother lol. I do it too, I'm guilty. My mom also does it.