CIA Project GAMMA and the double agent. Special Forces Vietnam vet Terry McIntosh PART 1

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2024
  • Some files of Project GAMMA are still classified. LRRP and Special forces Vietnam Veteran Terry McIntosh goes into as much detail as he can about his experience during the Vietnam war. Terrys book "The youngest green beret" talks about his involvement with Project Gamma, an intel sourcing special project focusing on Cambodia. Terry would find himself closer to the enemy than he ever imagined. As strange events begin to unfold and whispers begin to swirl fingers begin to point to Thai Khac Chuyen. A man Terry knows all to well, a man he has on his team. Chuyen would later be exposed as a double agent. Execute with extreme prejudice was used in a statement from a three letter agency......it was followed out. The rest you will have to listen to the interview.

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  • @ericjones8176
    @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +25

    My Father 82nd, 75th, 5th Special, MACV-SOG, and on loan to CIA ('68-'72). The greatest fighters America has ever created! God bless them all!

    • @interviewswithwarriors
      @interviewswithwarriors  6 месяцев назад +1

      love to know more -

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад

      @@interviewswithwarriorsHe was Photo Recon and Joint Personnel Recovery (CCS) forward operations near An Loc. He was part of the Tet counter offensive search and destroy missions. He was on loan to CIA in late '70, moved to Saigon on civilian status. After the war, he worked back and forth from Department of Defense and CIA as a counter intelligence strategist. He is 77 years of age battling leukemia from napalm, but doing well. I have many of the photos he took in Saigon.

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +4

      He enlisted in fear of going to Vietnam. I have a family of decorated Soldiers; my time will come fighting for America in the near future. I am forty seven years old and in good shape and training for it. God bless America and our Military!

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +2

      He was Photo Recon and Joint Personnel Recovery (CCS) forward observations near An Loc. He was part of the Tet Counter Offensive Search and Destroy Missions. In late '70 he was sent to Saigon on loan to the CIA. I have many of the photos he took in Saigon.

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад

      He is 77 years old and battling leukemia from napalm, but doing well.

  • @jansobieski7470
    @jansobieski7470 5 месяцев назад +11

    Moral of the story... let the CIA do their own dirty work...

  • @hectormartinez9657
    @hectormartinez9657 5 месяцев назад +5

    To the host of this awesome channel, I believe your name is Jason. Thank you for your interest and great interviews. I know a Vietnam veteran who served in journalism side of the military. He is to this day a very quiet man. Recently upon learning of his experience, I simply asked him about it. I being a military veteran myself (born in 65. So no not Vietnam haha) he really enjoyed talking about it! I have a great admiration for all combat veterans. I served in Iraq in 2003 but NOTHING like what these true warriors did. So please keep up the great work that you do. I’m sure it’s not easy.

    • @interviewswithwarriors
      @interviewswithwarriors  5 месяцев назад

      Firstly thank you for your service. I have known these men of SOG for quite a while, that is why there some connection with the convo ect. I was born in 70 so not that far behind you.

  • @jansobieski7470
    @jansobieski7470 5 месяцев назад +6

    Looks good for being around 75 years old...!

  • @brodywalker734
    @brodywalker734 6 месяцев назад +7

    My uncle served in Vietnam as a green beret. He never mentioned any specifics, by I suspect he was on one of the recon teams. He passed in 2012. His name was Edward Blancarte. Do you recall ever hearing him mentioned in an interview, or coming across his name in any of the books you have read?

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +1

      God bless your Uncle Sir!

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +1

      It is extremely difficult to get information on these true patriots! The Department of the Army will tell you nothing other than what is on a DD-214 Discharge. Please try asking Service Men at your local VFWs.

    • @ericjones8176
      @ericjones8176 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was lucky in meeting a High Level Marine Officer while doing contract work for the Military. He gave me a contact who was a Special Green Beret that did, nearly, identical missions in Vietnam. He helped me tremendously on gathering my Father's heraldry. He has since passed, but I remain good friends with the Marine that helped me. I refuse to use their names due to my friend is active duty, the internet, and surveillance. I will help you any way I can.

  • @BlueWaterSTAX
    @BlueWaterSTAX 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great interview guys. God Bless

    • @interviewswithwarriors
      @interviewswithwarriors  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you. I try and keep them real and flowing.

    • @MarkusBracey-cs5rm
      @MarkusBracey-cs5rm 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@interviewswithwarriorsYou tube Sylvester Bracey Vietnam RECON Pops was caught twice by the Vietcong Also went Special Operations on ho chi mingh trail. Made it home in one piece Said couldn't talk for 20 years HE SIGNED CONTRACT

  • @therealkevan8158
    @therealkevan8158 5 месяцев назад +2

    good questions Jason!

  • @MarkusBracey-cs5rm
    @MarkusBracey-cs5rm 5 месяцев назад +4

    CRAZY STORY MY FATHER SYLVESTER BRACEY SR RECON 9TH MARINE THEN SPECIAL OPERATIONS ACROSS THE FENCE. My father went AWOL 6 months on Special Operations CAME BACK HOME IN ONE PIECE.

  • @ericgibson2079
    @ericgibson2079 5 месяцев назад +1

    Our best Vietnam War movies are still ahead of us...

  • @tevman69
    @tevman69 5 месяцев назад +2

    I learned not to trust any ‘ZH’ from my first assignment of only three-weeks. Di di mau…

  • @ericgibson2079
    @ericgibson2079 5 месяцев назад +4

    You didn't mention when you were saved??? I wonder if it was in Vietnam? God Bless you and yours. All your work and I hope it bears lots of fruit! Folks please pray for Terry and his work. In God We Trust and Under One God are our highest ideals. That trust requires individual relationships tho. The USA is not a mascot. All of our founders were believers. A more perfect Union requires more perfect citizens. We must learn how to get all of our people pluged in with thier own abilities to trust Him...

    • @holylandfriends
      @holylandfriends 5 месяцев назад +3

      hey, Eric. Thank you for your comment. I was raised in a Christian home and held to a childlike faith in Christ. When I got to Nam, I prayed the self serving fox hole prayer, "God, get me outta here alive and I'll serve you the rest of my life." I recognized divinity protecting me several times. I write about in my autobiography "The Making of a Missionary." After Nam, I felt relatively safe and lapsed back to my normal self seeking independence and defiance of authority. The day was all that mattered. The darkest years followed that faithless strategy. Two marriages and divorce included (no children by either marriage). I was eventually arrested and briefly jailed (would prefer not go into that here, Lol). I slipped from honorable military service to failed businessman, aiding and abetting prostitution, to thug, to thief twice divorced, and to jailbird. It was a wake up call. At that point, I turned to God again and the long walk to forgiveness and salvation started. Learning to trust his leadership was a slow process, but life improved immensely. I remarried in 1983 and submitted my sovereignty to God through Jesus Christ. It just happened on my 33rd birthday! Anyway, I eventually found myself a stable member of society raising three boys. The Lord blessed us from above and below. I had a great job, happy marriage, got to act as an extra and stand in on two Warner Brothers movies, "In Country" and "US Marshalls." I campaigned for a seat in Congress (lost, obviously). Life was good. Then the Lord called up that old promise to serve him, Lol. We chose to obey, quit my job, sold the house, and moved to Israel on a renewable tourist visa to spark the greatest move of the Holy Spirit among the Palestinian community since only God knows how long. The rest of the story is preserved for sake of posterity. Vietnam is a part of my early life story, but all of it is to the glory of God. If he saved a wretch like me, he can save anybody.

    • @WhoWouldWantThisName
      @WhoWouldWantThisName Месяц назад +1

      @@holylandfriends Thank you so much for everything, especially the ministry. I have not yet made that kind of devoted sacrifice to the Lord but I was saved back in Jan. 2021. I hear from others of the revival in the middle East and it is certainly heartening and instills hope. We also have some of that happening here but I know we have a long way to go. It is only through God's blessing and with his grace that this country will survive.
      BTW, for whatever it may be worth, I also agree with your assessment of the event and what followed. I see this as a classic case of CYA and I believe that best defines the culture of the CIA and the rest of the alphabet agencies. Sure, I suppose thy could have took him out on a patrol and had him removed by the enemy in an ambush or a trap, etc., to avoid the technicality of execution vs combat, but to me the only difference would be purely a PR move, no different than just lying and saying it went down that way. I don't know who is supposed to make that order for execution but did this really require a court martial in Saigon given Chuyen wasn't a US troop? The way I see it they had enough on him to convict and given it's a war zone it's akin to catching him laying a mine outside your wire for you to step on. If you shot him then and there nobody would have an issue with it, except maybe the WA. Post..

  • @jakeb7087
    @jakeb7087 5 месяцев назад +2

    My grandfather was Project 404, I wonder if he ran into those guys as well. His record shows L-39 and Savannahkhet. At some point he was a Covey driver, though I am not sure when from work with 404.

    • @interviewswithwarriors
      @interviewswithwarriors  5 месяцев назад +1

      That was an Airforce op right

    • @jakeb7087
      @jakeb7087 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@interviewswithwarriors it was CIA but worked with ravens pretty exclusively.

  • @user-lu5jj8qs3h
    @user-lu5jj8qs3h 2 месяца назад

    Did you ever know of a double agent in real time and feed him wrong information, knowing this?

  • @jansobieski7470
    @jansobieski7470 5 месяцев назад +4

    How about this? Why not refuse an unlawful order? What's the difference between killing an enemy in an ambush and offing a potential spy? The spy was not tried and was not armed. A missionary to Israel and the Arabs. God bless you.

    • @holylandfriends
      @holylandfriends 5 месяцев назад +4

      Like they say, war is hell. I'm thankful I was not involved in that decision, but I can't second guess it. Those officers were loyal soldiers and following orders as they understood it. There might have been better options, Idk. Murder is not sanctioned by my faith in God today. Everything thing must be judged in context. What should a soldier do when faced with killing an enemy or letting him go? Those are moral questions that only those involved can make knowing the whole circumstance, and we do not know all. I never felt guilty opening fire on an enemy before he knew I was there. Somebody will label that as murder. Again, war is hell and emotional conflict comes with it. A salute to you and your family for your service.

    • @jansobieski7470
      @jansobieski7470 5 месяцев назад +2

      I understand... I offered an alternative... having served, that is what I would have considered... like you I was sorta SOG Lite and I eventually saw what can happen when the spooks got involved...

    • @scallopohare9431
      @scallopohare9431 4 месяца назад +1

      Spies come under different laws and accords.

    • @WhoWouldWantThisName
      @WhoWouldWantThisName Месяц назад +1

      @@jansobieski7470 It sounds to me like they did consider that and decided that having spies behind bars was too risky still. So they thought it best to kill him. That also sounds to me like they had no doubt as to their moral or legal grounds to do so. As he relayed it anyway, it sounds to me like those involved were not concerned about any criminal investigation or actions taken against them. Other than dumping his body the rest appears to me to be a case of executing a known enemy spy. I can't say what I would have done but if the order came down to do this, and given these circumstances, I would think I would be guilty of refusing a lawful order if I didn't. Again this is based on how this all appears based on this accounting of the events. I have not yet read his book or anything else related to this, just this video. So when he says things like "it was decided" and so forth I don't know just who had what authority to decide this or who knew what as far as them knowing if their orders were legal. To me, bottom line, IF they knew he was a spy, then they were clear to kill him to save friendly lives. I don't know that I would choose that but I won't begrudge them for it either.

  • @johnbelus7828
    @johnbelus7828 6 месяцев назад +2

    I call bullshit.

    • @VinceFlynn-xy7fp
      @VinceFlynn-xy7fp 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah seems fishy

    • @interviewswithwarriors
      @interviewswithwarriors  5 месяцев назад +6

      Are you familiar with the historical facts of Project Gamma? As per questioning Terry i would say there is no question he was with SF for that duration. My connections to the SF community and the historical research aspects are many. It is not always easy to get these Vietnam vets to talk openly. We want them to talk, we want to learn from them. It is very easy to type in a few words on a keyboard that stops these men from wanting to be interviewed. Thanks

    • @VinceFlynn-xy7fp
      @VinceFlynn-xy7fp 5 месяцев назад

      Bro! I know all about war ok I've played all the call of duty games

    • @adrianmeyer-zw2mx
      @adrianmeyer-zw2mx 5 месяцев назад +2

      I think its great to hear these guys. Lets not discourage them from talking.

    • @MarkusBracey-cs5rm
      @MarkusBracey-cs5rm 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@interviewswithwarriors YOU REALLY NEED TO DO A STORY ON THE AWOL ACROSS THE FENCE MEN. THEY WERE THERE TOO. THEY JUST LEARNED FASTER ABOUT THE ENDING OF THE WAR. THEY SAVED THEIR OWN LIVES. MY FATHER DID RECON ACROSS THE FENCE IN HO CHI MINGH TRAIL IN LAOS WITH NUN TRIBAL TROOPS. HE SAID HE SIGNED A CONTRACT TO NOT TALK FOR 20 YRS. BECAUSE HE WENT AWOL HE DOESN'T GET HIS RECON CREDIT FOR THE WAR ALL BLACKLISTED. Sylvester Bracey 3rd div 9th Marine Recon 67-69. Danang Con Thien, Camp Carroll, Rock pile. Gio Lingh Cam Lol, Khe sanh, the Hill fights 881, Dong HA Battle Royale the walking dead Recon ASHAU valley Hamburger hill. Was caught by the enemy whole Recon team. They killed all white Marines and LET POPS GO FREE. Yes after 3 months in 2nd tour caught by Vietcong. Joined special operations 3 months Phoenix program and Across the Fence. No name tags no US uniforms No US weapons in LAOS Pops said he used a Carbine. Pops said they told him IF HE EVER GOT CAUGHT CALL IN AIRSTRIKES. He said so y'all can come get me. They said YOU DONT WANT TO BE TORTURED DO YOU? Suicide mission Pops went AWOL on Special operations 6 months on front line DMZ living by the Ben hai River. Look up the Ben hai River. ITS THE DMZ. The Vietcong caught him again but let him go again seeing his AFRO N AFRO BEARDS. My father never got his credit for his service BECAUSE HE WENT AWOL TO SAVE HIS ON LIFE. YES IM A WAR VET TOO. Gulf war. You tube Sylvester Bracey Vietnam