@@Auspices1349 nah whats crazy that she has no imagination to even add to the convo... for example i would say "i wonder if there alot of fat people in that era cuz one fat dude can take one whole house thats made of breaks compared to a 100 pounder.. n would they use babies too?" lol
Genghis khan was in his early forties when finally conquered all the tribes of the steppe and started the mongol world war and it went on long after his death and he didnt start the war in the middle east but he ended it
What they did to royals was wrap them in a certain carpet and trample on them (on horses as well) because Mongols have a taboo about spilling blood. They considered it a better way to die. Still until this day the countryside mongols don’t like to spill blood.
Interesting how certain Rogan is in all of the incorrect information he spews. Single events don't dictate the norm, but Joe throws them out as if the Mongols were just launching bodies at every siege, when in reality it may have happened once or twice out of the dozens of siege. Can't say it wasn't effective when it did happen, though.
I know! It's like he was on DMT at the time he had a chat with Dan Carlin one time and is just saying whatever bits and pieces he recalls. It's equal parts grating and hilarious.
it was indeed effective, both as psychological warfare & biological warfare, but they would only do that when they ran out of flammable napta projectiles or stones, it was so effective that the one time they did do it (using their own death troops) it caused the black death, a plague that killed off a huge part of medieval Europe That crushing royal beneath a large wooden plank was done once by Subutai & Jebe against the Rus princes which they defeated near the kalka river Using civilian human shields to protect their own troops and archers was actually very common and used in almost every siege
@@aburoach9268 The civilian shields are still used by many other military systems even into the present day. Nothing new there at all. From the dawn of time until the end.
accounts describe him as tall, strong, with a flowing mane of hair and a long, bushy beard. However, a 14th century Persian chronicler claimed he had red hair and green eyes. KHAN was probably of tartarian descent. Look at modern day tartans. They resemble the description given by the Persian.
@@aburoach9268 Could also be called normal human activity for the time period. Humankind has become soft and feminine in the easy world we live in. It will change though...always does. Change is the only constant.
All kings and lords were doing what Genghis Khan was doing in their time. Khan was just the most successful among them. Joe would be doing the same thing if he was born then. He is judging people in the past using today's standards without realising future generations will also judge us today using the standards of their time.
He was ruthless and waged war seemingly for war's sake. When the Mongol empire crumbled, it completely disappeared. No art, no government, no cultural message. Most Kingdom's who waged war had an identity, and a culture to spread. It seems that wasn't really present with the Mongols and perhaps that is what Joe is feeling.
@@frogprince3491 The Mongols waged war for the same reason the Romans and Persians did - to gather land and resources while eliminating any and all threats to their territories. It was their version of market expansion and hostile takeovers in business today. And even though the Mongol empire dissolved as a single entity, the Mongols did make cultural contributions that are still seen today as they were pioneers in practicing globalisation, multiculturalism, religious tolerance, meritocracy, and of course military strategy. Joe's perspective is based on what most people think about the Mongols until they did deeper into their history.
@@anonbattler The religious tolerance take is mentioned frequently but misunderstood. They didn't allow religious tolerance out of kindness, it was because they learned from others that a conquered people were less likely to revolt if you just let them keep their religious practices. Also, I don't believe that the Mongols were trying to spread their religious practices, whatever they may have been. Their religion did not appear to spread and survive. The countries to the west were no threat to them, Russia, Europe, and China wanted nothing to do with the Central Asian Steppe. It appears to be an "Empire" based solely on military conquest, plunder and brutalization. They showed up unprovoked, demanded submission and brutally murdered untold thousands of people. No doubt they sped up the military arms race with all they encountered. I just don't get why people believe that it was some noble cause or "tolerant." It was essentially a glorified raiding party that completely dissolved as quickly as it came.
There’s a Chinese show that you can find on RUclips that is pretty accurate to his life according to the sources, but no heavy violence or brutality. The last western attempt at anything Mongol related flopped (Marco Polo) so I doubt we’re getting anything soon. The Golden Horde on Amazon depicts the Russian pov when they were under Mongols 2 generations after Genghis’ life.
Not really, its all white mens lies. Ghengis Khan was actually a very good ruler, who allowed religious freedom. He was only cruel to whom they opposed his rule.
@Rio50520 But they were Germans, were they not? From the wiki: "The Mongols[a] are an East Asian ethnic group native to Mongolia, China (Inner Mongolia and other 11 autonomous territories), as well as Buryatia and Kalmykia republics of Russia." From Ai: "In their own language, Mongolians refer to themselves as "Монгол" (pronounced "Mongol") which translates to "Mongol" in English." That is their name, identity, history, and they descend from them. The "mongolians" do not say anything to the contrary or argue against it.
Mark my word when I say somewhere in the future at a certain time, Hitler won't be considered as being evil or bad but someone cool like Napoleon and Alexander the great.
Joe, here in the U.S. in Salem MA they put a board over a man accused of witchcraft, he had accused his own wife of witchcraft, whom they hung. Well they put a board over him and began placing heavy rocks on the board until he was crushed to death. But before he died he cursed the man who accused him, that he would die a horrid death not long after his death. The man crushed was named Corey.......that was here in our own country. And the Accuser who was after Corey's property and wealthy also died horribly in fact. I LOVE HISTORY, DON'T YOU?
@ it’s believed to be found recently on Burkham Khaldun and Mongolia is currently still trying to fight researchers from exploring more into it. Many archaeologists and historians now believe the tomb may be located on Burkhan Khaldun, a peak in the Khentii Mountains north of Ulaanbaatar where Genghis Khan hid from his enemies as a young man and pledged to return after he died, according to some sources. , unfortunately it’s located at a peak that falls under a protected wildlife conservation area that the Mongolian government does not permit anyone to enter for any reason, whether spiritual or scientific. (Which lines up with the fact that most Mongolians don’t want the tomb to be found as a way to respect his final wishes.)
@@RomanVasquez-lf4tb that's all just speculation. you went from they found it and tested his DNA to it's believed to be somewhere at the mountain and they can't get there.
@@RomanVasquez-lf4tb Uh yeah..no thanks. That did not happen. They have been searching for that for years and located zilch. He left nothing to find intentionally they say.
I think the mongol army at it's peak was more than 100 000. He assimilated defeated foe's soldiers in his own, including the chinese. But yes they were extremely effective and often fought much larger armys than their own. If you haven't read Conn Iggulden's Conqueror series you need to. Sure some things he changed for the sake of the story but overall he did his research extremely well. To this day my favourite books by far.
nope. Brandon is a bum, but he at least have whatever his brains are left. And he made more money outside fighting. got kinda more famous for stupid people. It was actually good advise for Brandon, but not for the world.
I got you beat! I'm am the living United Nations! German, Swedish, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, French, Spanish, Romanian, Jewish, and Mongolian.......Like I use to tell my teachers....I'm the United Nations!.....lol.
You don't actually know until you get DNA tested. All you have are family anecdotes and legends. You may find that you are more than that, or that some don't apply to you. Many people believe they are part this or that (Native American for example) because family members told them so. Only to find out they do not have any native lineage.
KNEW a soldier who served in vietnam and medically died, but came back to life, and he conveyed to me that when he was dead he met Yeshua, but the essence of the entire story was that i should realize that few people make it to heaven. And when you read history and consider the commonality of corruption and sinful behaviour rampant in society and the "civilized " world, it appears his statement is sadly true.
except in terms of kill count and brutality Muhammed is a saint and nowhere near comparable to Ghenghis If he was, there would've been no jews or Christians or other religious minorities left in the middle-east, they would've all been killed off and all those ancient cities like Damascus and Jerusalem would've been burned to the ground with the only thing left being huge mountains of human bones (like what happened in China when Ghenghis passed by) *So invent better lies, you reptile*
@@aburoach9268 They both built empires and were responsible for the deaths of millions, which carried on with their descendants/followers, they both gathered up the women as sex slaves and kept the most beautiful for themselves and 'married' them. Mohammed styled himself as the messenger of God, Genghis Khan as the wrath of God. I think there's a few significant parallels there.
Joe sounds like me at the bar trying to relate to chicks with this conversation
How did that go for you?
There's nothing women like more than impromptu Genghis Khan facts. "Wow, that's craaazy..."
No you!
@@Auspices1349 nah whats crazy that she has no imagination to even add to the convo... for example i would say "i wonder if there alot of fat people in that era cuz one fat dude can take one whole house thats made of breaks compared to a 100 pounder.. n would they use babies too?" lol
lemme guess you've gotten nowhere
Like the line from Cliffhanger - Kill a few people, you're a murder, kill a million & you're a conquerer.
Hahah that’s right! Great movie.
And video game too.
That quote was attributed to Stalin
The world was merciless back in the day. You had one job and that was to just survive. Yet were here worrying about next months rent being paid. Crazy
💯
Unless you’re Joe Rogan lol then you spend your time trying to make life more challenging by soaking in ice baths & going on stocked “hunts”
lol it’s all about perspective I guess.
I would double check joes historical references.
Genghis khan was in his early forties when finally conquered all the tribes of the steppe and started the mongol world war and it went on long after his death and he didnt start the war in the middle east but he ended it
hearing shane talk about this w Matt is more entertaining than
That dude Shane annoying AF idk why Joe made his az relevant dudes a dork
@@BigWorm541shush
Joe:.....
Her: it’s crazy
What they did to royals was wrap them in a certain carpet and trample on them (on horses as well) because Mongols have a taboo about spilling blood. They considered it a better way to die. Still until this day the countryside mongols don’t like to spill blood.
Interesting how certain Rogan is in all of the incorrect information he spews. Single events don't dictate the norm, but Joe throws them out as if the Mongols were just launching bodies at every siege, when in reality it may have happened once or twice out of the dozens of siege. Can't say it wasn't effective when it did happen, though.
I know! It's like he was on DMT at the time he had a chat with Dan Carlin one time and is just saying whatever bits and pieces he recalls. It's equal parts grating and hilarious.
it was indeed effective, both as psychological warfare & biological warfare, but they would only do that when they ran out of flammable napta projectiles or stones, it was so effective that the one time they did do it (using their own death troops) it caused the black death, a plague that killed off a huge part of medieval Europe
That crushing royal beneath a large wooden plank was done once by Subutai & Jebe against the Rus princes which they defeated near the kalka river
Using civilian human shields to protect their own troops and archers was actually very common and used in almost every siege
@@aburoach9268 The civilian shields are still used by many other military systems even into the present day.
Nothing new there at all.
From the dawn of time until the end.
Bold choice to call this "A History Lesson..."
accounts describe him as tall, strong, with a flowing mane of hair and a long, bushy beard. However, a 14th century Persian chronicler claimed he had red hair and green eyes. KHAN was probably of tartarian descent. Look at modern day tartans. They resemble the description given by the Persian.
Stop the bullshit . He was mongol descent from siberia and made it all the way to germany and italy he had no euro dna
@BounceBack_clips proof? The only description of him says not. Tartars ranged all through that area. Tartans are not European.
@@BounceBack_clips The Mongols never reached Germany or Italy. The furthest west they reached was parts of Modern day Poland and Hungary
@@billstream1974 wait, aren’t Tatars (or Tartars) and Tartans two completely different groups of people?
the guest is adding nothing
She did say "cool" and "crazy" a few times 😅
@@lulu-hm2xp Mostly what women do. 🧐
That chick is pretty funny lol
Joe might need to check those numbers haha
I would take what Joe is saying with a grain of salt 😂😂😂 man is high
Its called Psychologist Warfare Joe. Vlad Tepesh did the same impaling Turks .. see?
could also be called Terrorism
@@aburoach9268 Could also be called normal human activity for the time period. Humankind has become soft and feminine in the easy world we live in. It will change though...always does.
Change is the only constant.
I would love to see "psychologist warfare."
These types of things are why we see man made caves high in mountains or underneath the ground
All kings and lords were doing what Genghis Khan was doing in their time. Khan was just the most successful among them. Joe would be doing the same thing if he was born then. He is judging people in the past using today's standards without realising future generations will also judge us today using the standards of their time.
I do not think he is judging at all. Just stating what his mind observed via reading and watching historic material and shows.
He was ruthless and waged war seemingly for war's sake. When the Mongol empire crumbled, it completely disappeared. No art, no government, no cultural message. Most Kingdom's who waged war had an identity, and a culture to spread. It seems that wasn't really present with the Mongols and perhaps that is what Joe is feeling.
@@frogprince3491 The Mongols waged war for the same reason the Romans and Persians did - to gather land and resources while eliminating any and all threats to their territories. It was their version of market expansion and hostile takeovers in business today.
And even though the Mongol empire dissolved as a single entity, the Mongols did make cultural contributions that are still seen today as they were pioneers in practicing globalisation, multiculturalism, religious tolerance, meritocracy, and of course military strategy. Joe's perspective is based on what most people think about the Mongols until they did deeper into their history.
@@anonbattler The religious tolerance take is mentioned frequently but misunderstood. They didn't allow religious tolerance out of kindness, it was because they learned from others that a conquered people were less likely to revolt if you just let them keep their religious practices. Also, I don't believe that the Mongols were trying to spread their religious practices, whatever they may have been. Their religion did not appear to spread and survive.
The countries to the west were no threat to them, Russia, Europe, and China wanted nothing to do with the Central Asian Steppe.
It appears to be an "Empire" based solely on military conquest, plunder and brutalization. They showed up unprovoked, demanded submission and brutally murdered untold thousands of people. No doubt they sped up the military arms race with all they encountered. I just don't get why people believe that it was some noble cause or "tolerant."
It was essentially a glorified raiding party that completely dissolved as quickly as it came.
4:51 That's just a Tuesday. Lowkey M Bison reference.
2:30
I seriously hope there working or make a T.V series about Khan
There’s a Chinese show that you can find on RUclips that is pretty accurate to his life according to the sources, but no heavy violence or brutality. The last western attempt at anything Mongol related flopped (Marco Polo) so I doubt we’re getting anything soon. The Golden Horde on Amazon depicts the Russian pov when they were under Mongols 2 generations after Genghis’ life.
I fucked with Marco Polo.@@gvairsoft5994
@@gvairsoft5994 I really liked Marco Polo on Netflix. I'm not sure why they cancelled it... probably one of the best shows I had watched on there.
There's already a movie about his rise to power called Mongol. From 2007.
@ not very accurate
Wasn't spilling royal blood taboo and that's why they crushed them.
I think that was the case.
Those Mongolians were cruel 😂
Not really, its all white mens lies. Ghengis Khan was actually a very good ruler, who allowed religious freedom. He was only cruel to whom they opposed his rule.
mongols, not mongolians
@@audit_the_fedSame thing.
@@4lrk that's like calling all germans nazis, The mongols and mongolians are different things
@Rio50520 But they were Germans, were they not?
From the wiki: "The Mongols[a] are an East Asian ethnic group native to Mongolia, China (Inner Mongolia and other 11 autonomous territories), as well as Buryatia and Kalmykia republics of Russia."
From Ai: "In their own language, Mongolians refer to themselves as "Монгол" (pronounced "Mongol") which translates to "Mongol" in English."
That is their name, identity, history, and they descend from them. The "mongolians" do not say anything to the contrary or argue against it.
Mark my word when I say somewhere in the future at a certain time, Hitler won't be considered as being evil or bad but someone cool like Napoleon and Alexander the great.
Liberals were literally praising him for his treatment of the Jews over their disagreement with the Gaza war. So technically sort of happened already.
I mean…
Found the racist
Well, Israel is trying their BEST to make Hitler a hero.
I've been thinking the same thing
Those were royals of Kievan Rus
And history tries to tell us Vlad the impaler was bad,at least Vlad fought against the Turks and fought to protect Europe.
You can tell she wanted to be taken alive by the horde.
DAMN YOU MONGORIANS!!
We’re lucky every leader wasn’t completely psychotic
Seems like in that era they were. Now we've improved and we're down to like 80% of leaders being sociopaths
How did one person do that don't you mean his people?
I’m one of those people with his DNA.
fun shirt
We will never know if that was actually true. I need video.
Joe, here in the U.S. in Salem MA they put a board over a man accused of witchcraft, he had accused his own wife of witchcraft, whom they hung. Well they put a board over him and began placing heavy rocks on the board until he was crushed to death. But before he died he cursed the man who accused him, that he would die a horrid death not long after his death. The man crushed was named Corey.......that was here in our own country. And the Accuser who was after Corey's property and wealthy also died horribly in fact. I LOVE HISTORY, DON'T YOU?
Giles Corey
What’s funny about this clip is they recently found his tomb and there were no dna matches
what you are even on about, no one found his tomb...
@ it’s believed to be found recently on Burkham Khaldun and Mongolia is currently still trying to fight researchers from exploring more into it. Many archaeologists and historians now believe the tomb may be located on Burkhan Khaldun, a peak in the Khentii Mountains north of Ulaanbaatar where Genghis Khan hid from his enemies as a young man and pledged to return after he died, according to some sources. , unfortunately it’s located at a peak that falls under a protected wildlife conservation area that the Mongolian government does not permit anyone to enter for any reason, whether spiritual or scientific. (Which lines up with the fact that most Mongolians don’t want the tomb to be found as a way to respect his final wishes.)
@@RomanVasquez-lf4tb that's all just speculation.
you went from they found it and tested his DNA to it's believed to be somewhere at the mountain and they can't get there.
@ actually look into it I didn’t feel like sending multiple sources. Regardless it’s kinda impossible to know for sure but they found it
@@RomanVasquez-lf4tb Uh yeah..no thanks. That did not happen. They have been searching for that for years and located zilch. He left nothing to find intentionally they say.
Royal blood was not to be spilled, so they were suffocating under boxes where the generals ate while watching the battles unfold.
How the fuck could he kill that many he only had a hundred thousand men that means every soldier had to kill five hundred men
I think the mongol army at it's peak was more than 100 000. He assimilated defeated foe's soldiers in his own, including the chinese. But yes they were extremely effective and often fought much larger armys than their own. If you haven't read Conn Iggulden's Conqueror series you need to. Sure some things he changed for the sake of the story but overall he did his research extremely well. To this day my favourite books by far.
Read jack weatherfords book genghis khan and the making of the modern world he breaks it all down
@@Austin-cx6wz I will, thank you!
It's worse when you convince your friend to stop fighting just to become a failed comedian. Now that's brutal.
The ban him from your club 😂
Mediocre fighter. Shit comedian. Overall 2.5/10
nope. Brandon is a bum, but he at least have whatever his brains are left.
And he made more money outside fighting. got kinda more famous for stupid people.
It was actually good advise for Brandon, but not for the world.
Be less of a moron. Schaub was done. His fighting career was over
I got you beat! I'm am the living United Nations! German, Swedish, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, French, Spanish, Romanian, Jewish, and Mongolian.......Like I use to tell my teachers....I'm the United Nations!.....lol.
mostly Europe LOL which makes sense as the UN only pushes European interests
You don't actually know until you get DNA tested. All you have are family anecdotes and legends. You may find that you are more than that, or that some don't apply to you. Many people believe they are part this or that (Native American for example) because family members told them so. Only to find out they do not have any native lineage.
KNEW a soldier who served in vietnam and medically died, but came back to life, and he conveyed to me that when he was dead he met Yeshua, but the essence of the entire story was that i should realize that few people make it to heaven. And when you read history and consider the commonality of corruption and sinful behaviour rampant in society and the "civilized " world, it appears his statement is sadly true.
" walking dead ' 😂
Joe should have Genghis Khan facts on his wall, just so we don't have to hear it every episode
I want to hear it more bruh
Nah you're tripping. It's very interesting
In those days these leaders were open about their intentions. Today leaders do the same in the name of democracy and civilising via colonialism.
For many countries and peoples in the recent centuries, colonialism was the only way available into the modern world. Like it or not.
She is so not into it 😂
Genghis Khan had a lot in common with Mohammed.
except in terms of kill count and brutality Muhammed is a saint and nowhere near comparable to Ghenghis
If he was, there would've been no jews or Christians or other religious minorities left in the middle-east, they would've all been killed off and all those ancient cities like Damascus and Jerusalem would've been burned to the ground with the only thing left being huge mountains of human bones (like what happened in China when Ghenghis passed by) *So invent better lies, you reptile*
Kill count and brutality difference suggests other wise
it's like comparing a whale to a mouse
@@aburoach9268
They both built empires and were responsible for the deaths of millions, which carried on with their descendants/followers, they both gathered up the women as sex slaves and kept the most beautiful for themselves and 'married' them. Mohammed styled himself as the messenger of God, Genghis Khan as the wrath of God.
I think there's a few significant parallels there.
Genghis Khan never married a 6 year old. So already he's better.
I sometimes compare them.they r similar but when it comes to warfare no they r completely different