* Correction : Dmg inc of ambush & brawler is similar (0.06 % dmg higher) to grudge to have on stone. So if you have 7/7 stone that contains Ambush or Brawler, then you're fine. (9/7 should not re-cut as well ofc) - Calc Ambush & Brawler : Relic eng (7.6% dmg + 15% direction dmg), Stone : 5.4% dmg (10p) -> 100 + 7.6 + 5.4 / 100 + 7.6 = 5.018% dmg inc from 'STONE' Grudge : Relic eng (21% dmg), Stone : 6% dmg (10p) -> 100 + 21 + 6 / 100 + 21 = 4.958% dmg inc from 'STONE' In short, they increase almost same dmg. There's almost no difference even when you don't have relic eng or 10 points on stone. * Precised dagger is generally not good to have on stone since most of dmg inc engravings have better output. Not even sure if it's good on classes that actually run PD. Maxroll : maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/ark-passive-system-guide#engravings-header Twitch stream : twitch.tv/memorizer92 Discord : discord.gg/AyvxxEMps4 Twitter : twitter.com/92Memorizer 00:00 Expensive & good to use 02:15 Not expensive & good to use 03:02 Not good to use 03:46 Should you re-cut a bad 9/7 ? 04:45 Ether predator 05:27 Outro
Hi Memo thanks for all the help with your contents , i have a 9/6 raid captain/adrenaline and a 9/6 adrenaline/raid captain, do i need to cut another one for a 7/7(i hope not im so done with stone cutting) or i can keep one of theses and if so which one should I use please i am so confuse
Hi memo question for bard stone. I have 9 7 (max mp 9, HA 7) but I also have a 7 7 (awakening, magic stream). I heard awakening on stone is bis in t4 for supports but is it better than having the extra ap from a 9 7? Also heard max mp is not a must have anymore with the reworked magic stream?
@@memorizer92 sry for asking again, i got a reflux sorc that has a 7 hit master 7 adrenalin stone but i Just cut an 7 hit master 9 MPE Increase stone... the 9/7 should be better right?
So we can keep the stones we have if they are good? It seems you guys have ancient stones to cut. How are those different from the relic ones upgraded to ancient with the kaya materials
memo, does ambush master/master brawler works the same now as the new "entropy" in the ark passive where it buffs the directional damage skill as long as it is directional, or do you still have to hit the back/front to apply the (7.6% dmg + *15% back attack damage*)?.
Hi Memo, i currently run 3x SE's and they all rolled variations (9 CD/6 RC or 6 CD/9 RC) is it worth to recut for something like any superior variation of 7/7 (Adre/Gru/Keen)? Considering given that one of the main builds runs "MP Efficiency" and it can't be ran with "Cursed Doll" on the stone.
@memorizer92 i just got back to the game on my BK Breaker (1680), and cut 9/7 Super Charge/Adrenaline first try....now my question, is it okey to use it all the way on T4? How big difference on DPS if we compare it to Grudge, CD, etc? Thx if you answer it, otherwise GREAT info nonetheless.
I am playing deathblade RE . should i go for Grudge/Adrenaline or Grudge/Cursed doll ? which is better in T4 i see adrenaline is more expensive to buy atm on market. But cursed doll overall give more damage as long as u have relic .
So i have a Adrenaline 9 Hitmaster 7 stone on my BK Breaker, is that usable on T4 ? i mean because CD looks way better than HM, and i don't know if the stone being a 9/7 changes that.
Assuming you have legendary books, 120/114 = 5.263% on CD, 0% on grudge. If you have 7/7, then 117.75/114 = 3.29% on CD, 121.75/118 = 3.178% So 3.178+3.29 = 6.468% 7/7 stone is even better. Re-cut.
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* Correction : Dmg inc of ambush & brawler is similar (0.06 % dmg higher) to grudge to have on stone. So if you have 7/7 stone that contains Ambush or Brawler, then you're fine. (9/7 should not re-cut as well ofc)
- Calc
Ambush & Brawler : Relic eng (7.6% dmg + 15% direction dmg), Stone : 5.4% dmg (10p) -> 100 + 7.6 + 5.4 / 100 + 7.6 = 5.018% dmg inc from 'STONE'
Grudge : Relic eng (21% dmg), Stone : 6% dmg (10p) -> 100 + 21 + 6 / 100 + 21 = 4.958% dmg inc from 'STONE'
In short, they increase almost same dmg. There's almost no difference even when you don't have relic eng or 10 points on stone.
* Precised dagger is generally not good to have on stone since most of dmg inc engravings have better output. Not even sure if it's good on classes that actually run PD.
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00:00 Expensive & good to use
02:15 Not expensive & good to use
03:02 Not good to use
03:46 Should you re-cut a bad 9/7 ?
04:45 Ether predator
05:27 Outro
I have a 9/7 precise adrenaline on my pistoleer I hope it's better than a normal 7/7
@@syraster1359 I think you have no choice but to stay if you have 9/7
@@AspireWF I updated my comment, check.
Does that mean a 7-7 stone with drops and awakening would be better than a 9-7 of awakening and expert? If so Ima cry
@@Justin-nh7seI dont know well about sup in that case. 97 gives 1.5 base AP which affects the buff, guess kinda compensates
Thank u so much for this info memo, it helped me sort out the bad stones from the good.... keep doing what ur doing and more power to u....
nice info again memo
Goated info as always. One question, does it matter which engraving is 9 and which is 7 in a 9/7 stone?
Not really
Sweet
Hi Memo thanks for all the help with your contents , i have a 9/6 raid captain/adrenaline and a 9/6 adrenaline/raid captain, do i need to cut another one for a 7/7(i hope not im so done with stone cutting) or i can keep one of theses and if so which one should I use please i am so confuse
You're good. 96 is fine
Hi memo question for bard stone. I have 9 7 (max mp 9, HA 7) but I also have a 7 7 (awakening, magic stream). I heard awakening on stone is bis in t4 for supports but is it better than having the extra ap from a 9 7? Also heard max mp is not a must have anymore with the reworked magic stream?
You need to run magic stream cuz cool down buff. Not sure what stone is better in your case, but run magick stream no matter what
Hey quick question.....would you say a 7 Adrenalin 7 Master Brawler stone is stronger than a 7 Raid Captain 7 Master brawler?
Yes
@@memorizer92 tyvm
@@memorizer92 sry for asking again, i got a reflux sorc that has a 7 hit master 7 adrenalin stone but i Just cut an 7 hit master 9 MPE Increase stone... the 9/7 should be better right?
@@timelight1781 Yes 9/7 better
@@memorizer92 tyvm
So we can keep the stones we have if they are good? It seems you guys have ancient stones to cut. How are those different from the relic ones upgraded to ancient with the kaya materials
If your goal is to sell, then only those 6 above. If you're actually gonna cut for yourself, then including the ones in the middle
@@memorizer92 thank you! My main has only a 7/7 but is adrenaline, grudge so thats worth keeping. Amazing videos as always. Noted
memo, does ambush master/master brawler works the same now as the new "entropy" in the ark passive where it buffs the directional damage skill as long as it is directional, or do you still have to hit the back/front to apply the (7.6% dmg + *15% back attack damage*)?.
The back and front part of dmg should be hit on that direction. So it's not like the 'strike' ark passive you're talking about
@@memorizer92 thx.
Hi Memo, i currently run 3x SE's and they all rolled variations (9 CD/6 RC or 6 CD/9 RC) is it worth to recut for something like any superior variation of 7/7 (Adre/Gru/Keen)? Considering given that one of the main builds runs "MP Efficiency" and it can't be ran with "Cursed Doll" on the stone.
Run 9 cd. No reason to re-cut
@memorizer92 i just got back to the game on my BK Breaker (1680), and cut 9/7 Super Charge/Adrenaline first try....now my question, is it okey to use it all the way on T4? How big difference on DPS if we compare it to Grudge, CD, etc? Thx if you answer it, otherwise GREAT info nonetheless.
Yes, just use
What if you have a 9-6 stone? i have an ambush master 9 adrenaline 6 stone for my blade, worth recutting?
Uh I think that should be fine.
Hi memo, 1st thx you for your video, i have a question
For an hit master class, is running HM+Major as good as running 2 Major ?
1st group, 2nd group of engravings are all good to have. Major meant just price difference
@@memorizer92 Thx a lot !
Are 8-6 stones good or you really need a 7-7 or 9-7?
Aim for 7/7 to activate 2nd bonus each. 8/6 only procs 2 & 1 bonus
I bet they will buff master brawler,ambush master,all out attack etc
I have awakening(10) expert(6) stone, is this okay to keep for T4?
Yes. Base AP affects sup's buff so not recommended to cut another one
@memorizer92 What about Spirit Absorption on GT destro?
As far as I know, people replace it with stabilized status or precised dagger
hey memo i got a 10 Grudge - 6 Ambush Master stone, should I recut or keep it for T4??
Keep
I am playing deathblade RE . should i go for Grudge/Adrenaline or Grudge/Cursed doll ? which is better in T4 i see adrenaline is more expensive to buy atm on market. But cursed doll overall give more damage as long as u have relic .
Cursed doll adrenaline is the best, but the difference is small, so go whatever
@@memorizer92 thank you ! great info as always . you have great stream too i watch when i see you online , keep up :)
what efficience on drops of ether means?
The orb buffs enhance by that much
how will work negative stats in tier 4? the ones in the stone and accessories
Only stone has negative. It activates each on 5/7/10 So just avoid having more than 4.
So i have a Adrenaline 9 Hitmaster 7 stone on my BK Breaker, is that usable on T4 ? i mean because CD looks way better than HM, and i don't know if the stone being a 9/7 changes that.
Use 9/7
thanks for the info. the drop of ether meta in kr for support is still pretty bad. shit engraving
What engravings do bards use in t4 if DoE is mandatory ?
Awakening, DoE, Magic stream, Expert, Flex
@@memorizer92 will mana not be a problem anymore ? Or are they expected to run mana food perma now
@@soothsayer8957Then run max mana on flex along with magic stream. There are some people doing that on Loawa
@@memorizer92 Heavy Armor not required anymore for raids? I guess DoE have better efficiency than having support drink a few more pots
@@memorizer92 i see, thanku
Where is the glavier ark passive video memo 😂?
I have a 10/5 , cursed doll/grudge stone. Am I sitting ok or should I push for a different stone?
Assuming you have legendary books, 120/114 = 5.263% on CD, 0% on grudge.
If you have 7/7, then 117.75/114 = 3.29% on CD, 121.75/118 = 3.178%
So 3.178+3.29 = 6.468%
7/7 stone is even better. Re-cut.
Thanks for the info bro!
i have a EP 7 adrenaline 9 stone . should i keep it or recut ?
igniter sorc btw
Uh I guess you keep it and go ad, ep, AoA, grudge, hm
@@memorizer92 OK ty
Would you recut a 9 Cursed 6 Mb stone?
Just use it
A relic stone can become a ancient t4 stone?
Yes
7/7 grudge+keen or 7/7 adr+grudge
Ad
Does 8/8 stone get the AP bonus?
It doesn't
so i need to gather their t3 stone with good engraving ? as much as possible?
If your purpose is to sell, then save only those top 6
Damn, I have a 9/7 adren/kbw stone 😍
My 9/7 is 9 keenblunt and 7 ambush ,this is good stone for striker?
Use 97 if you have
Wait is the +24 on drops additive or multiplicative
Looks like multiplicative saying from some people
9/6 that have ambush master = recut angle?
In the fixed comment. Keep it
Duality of me. Happy that my GS Cursed/Hit 9/8 is pretty good. Be sad as fuck for my slayers Ambush/Adr 9/7.
Keep the 9/7 though. Still worth it
Always amuses how human brain works . Drops used to calculate into 2-3% dps gain . Gets 25% increase and ppl loose their mind XD
9/6 Adr+Grudge or 9/6 CurseDoll+Adr
Cd ad
So 8/6 stone is bad in T4?
Yeah, it's same as 7/6 only Lv2, Lv1 proc
where are u man?
imagine 8/8 stone (16 nodes) is worse than 9/6 stone (15 nodes). God director's mind
Complete IDIOT
Then everyone who dismantled their useless 8/8 would be completely shafted. This is the better solution.
Open the shop and roll new, don’t be mad
Done a 10/7 cursed doll and grudge recently, think i got lucky