I’m not a heating engineer but love watching these video’s they are so interesting and the way you explained the different currents on the fan made so much sense.
Yep Worcesters seem to have more of an issue than Vaillant?? Both made by the same company though. Weird. I will do another Video about fans at some point. A lot more to them than people realise.
Absolutely gold dust ' with the knowledge provided, Never suspected the fan ' Can you imagine doing a customer service and that happens' ' then you get told" well it was ok until you touched it.
If I had a pound for everytime I've heard that from a customer. I once had one tell me I'd altered the cold fill on a WC after a boiler service. "Well it was fine before you serviced the boiler"... gotta love them customers.
You are a legend buddy, what is the odds of that happening, very valuable info, looking forward to part 4. I just changed a fan PCB yesterday on a Greenstar 35 CDi to find out the fan was really noisy. All my suppliers shut early yesterday, at least the tenants had hot water and heating, hope the fan doesn't take out the new PCB or I will be out of pocket.
Yes I'm mostly fascinated with your way of testing sensor and electrical parts for fault finding etc they are very interesting beasts and you have a very good mindset of tackling anything new calm and better than any tutoring I've ever had / well done hope you do alot more my friend
What’s the chances of that man. Never had s fan break down on me while on site before. Amazing work as usual. Great Chanel. All the best for 2019. Keep the videos coming !!!!
I snapped a screw into the Worcester fan nightmare. I ended up drilling the old screw out and then retapping the thread and putting a new screw in. Will use your technique next time..
Hi mate love your videos.Very good, especially during lockdown I’ve learned a lot from these. Brilliant insight when coming from doing mostly installs and only a handful of breakdowns really, feel like I’ve gained a lot of knowledge thanks a lot 👍
im sure this started out with a main heat exchanger flush attempt lol just goes to show the real life situations when your at a customers house doing a service or a simple repair and something packs in and "its your fault" realy enjoying the videos, not many uk engineers on youtube going into as much detail as you, im a fairly new gas engineer and there is so much to learn, i watch your channel every time you upload... keep them coming.. happy new year to you and your family.. hope to see more of these quality videos in 2019 brendan (west yorkshire)
I think the boiler was OK after, those hose connectors are a pain for killing the flow rate, its better to fit the replacement flow and return pipes with the sliding joints as those hoses will reduce the bore again, as for the filter what a pain they are, they always fall apart on removal.
The 7.81V may be not fan off but a slow speed just to keep the combustion chamber purged of flammable gas so it can do a warm start on heat demand. The fan on my Ferroli 77FF was claimed as '2 speed' - in effect full speed and tick-over - possibly to stop the boiler heating water from the pilot light - LOL !
No tick over on this. The ferroli uses the tick over to entrain air from outside into the boiler so the pilot doesn't go out. Most fan assisted boilers used a tick over for this reason.
Happy New year mate, in machining we always use wd40 as a lubricant to cut Ali whether threads or surfaces it's always cleared well. Changed quite a few fans in my time never had the need to use that technique,but will bare that one in mind in the future ! I thinks it's because the Ebmpapst fans fit a multitude of boilers so the thread patterns suit many. I know from previous experience there is Very rarely anything wrong with the motor...it's the board on the top that a component goes pop...still as you say "trousers down" tell you what if you changed that fan and that noise is still there your gonna loose some hair mate ! Great vids keep it up.
Did you check the old fan - to see if it would rotate ? Had a blade broken and jammed it ? Well, you did take the air intake pipe off - with that off, could something have dropped into the air intake and jammed the fan ? In which case, new fan not needed ;)
Another quality video 👍 maybe the first “live failure” of a boiler fault ever lol... Much better fan connector on the Vaillant than the Worcester’s Keep up the good work... hope you have a prosperous 2019 🙂
Thanks for reply ,and yes i really do love watching your video,sI am 70 now and a retired plumber from the old days , and just want to ask ,i may mention that my Baxi solo 18 is playing up ,but if i press rest i can keep it going,So basically what should i replace it with, whats your best advice, cheers pete from newarkPs yes we are going to keep the pre lagged cylinder and just install a 42 18 ,so its upgraded ,There are just so many people saying this boiler or that ,But you really do know what your talking about this very obvious.
I would suggest you look at a witch report. There are a lot of new boilers (models) out there without any real running time behind them. I think I would fit a Worcester Ri if I needed a heat only boiler. Cant say it will last much more than 8-10 years though.
@@HeatingGeek Ok think i will do that cheers for all your very good advice,I must add its quite sad though i mean the time they last when i think back to that old Potterton floor standing kingfishers we used to fit many years ago and would last about thirty years or s,, but thanks again.
So did that fix the problem with the main heat exchanger prob not.the coils are most likely partially blocked!. Excellent video it's a shame about the fan. I have also had a pcb go by turning off and on at the mains you should always turn off at the fused spur and then turn boiler control knob to off then turn fused spur on and then boiler on and hopefully it will prevent the power surge taking the board out!!
The tap is already open. When the filling loop valve on the mains is "filling" it isolates the mains. So you can control the hot tap with the handle. Hope that made sense.... Im out.
Ive had two fans fail on me ever... both Worcesters, one was being serviced on high fire and pop, the other i left the boiler off at the fuse for 4 days and the fan wouldn't work after turning the appliance back on after the work was complete!
@@tysonbruno Best practice is "safe isolation".... soooooo off at the spur and do all the tests etc. I must admit there are a few boilers I try not to turn off. Cxi is one and older ecotec (2004-2007) is another. I always tell the customer that sometimes they don't work afterwards.
Great Video!!! Made me laugh when he put up on the screen "I'll use the earth for Ground so It can't Trick me!" How many times have we been in front of a boiler testing and thinking to ourselves or even saying out loud..." The little bastard is it trying to trick me " Lol.... I know I have!!! Love watching your videos keep em coming Dude!!
I turned off the power to one and went to turn back on pcb failed just on a routine service never went near it Just imagine trying to explain that to the customer just like that fan . You could end up paying for that as they will say it worked fine before you touched it . Happy new year hate to say on camera you are getting a little thin on top just like me LOL
Mate your videos are quality! Was you a breakdown engineer apprentice or have you done a few courses and picked things up through your career? I’m only an installer at the minute but really want to get on the breakdown side of things, going to do the Baxi course and try go from there but wondering your opinion on trying to jump in like that whether I’ll make any money or just wasting my time
I started as an Installer. Then got moved to breakdowns. I taught my self for 15 years. I have been trained by vaillant about 5 years ago and that took it to another level. (found my mojo again). Just keep at it and go for it. You only live once so better to try and fail than not to try at all.
HeatingGeek when you say trained by valiant do you mean their training course or you worked for them? I was actually doing a landlord cert on one of these today and felt so much more confident after watching these videos I looked at it all and didn’t feel lost! Keep doing what doing mate 👍🏻
Fan failure live - while your working on the boiler - once when I was tinkering with my boiler there was a effing earthquake ! Honest, it wasn't me ! LOL
Hi Oli, The 54 Fault we discussed re : The Ecotech Plus R2 was attended by Vaillant Service. That replaced the gas valve under warranty. Hope this helps. Best Regards, Lance.
I had a fault with my boiler - which I fixed. A year or so later discovered a fault-finding chart in the manual - so I went through that with the same symptoms - and it recommended changing the gas valve. The actual problem was that the gas supplied wasn't flammable. The fix was to take the gas pipe off before the meter, open the gas valve until I could smell gas and then reassemble and purge the last bit of the pipework. Job done.
Fella you didn’t say if you fixed the hot water fault that it all started with , and you was talking about binning it what is your boiler of choice to replace it m8
No not fixed. The fan hasn’t a connection to the blocked heat exchanger. I think your main heat exchanger is goosed. Great vid again. You should put your company name in the videos , you ll get loads of work because you know exactly what your doing
HeatingGeek I fix boilers for a living, don’t install, love your videos and see how other people work. I have a fb Page - gas,bathrooms & boiler stuff. Would be great to have you on board. It’s for trade only. 👍
@@heatpump8566 I haven't sorted out fb yet. Never been on it..... Im on ukplumbersforum but they didn't want me to mention this youtube stuff so I kinda stayed away.
HeatingGeek if you come on our page when you can, you can post links to here. Would be really useful for less experienced engineers. We have 3700 members and counting. 👍 looking forward to your next videos
i had a worcester i junior fan break on me after i installed a couple of radiators for a landlord, was fine when checking before i started, only broke after checking the system after installation, March 2018 beast from the easiest, wasn't the best experience as you can imagine... haha, happy new year !
Unless you know the customer, they will blame you. Its human nature. One thing I see a lot of is fans fail after the boiler runs hot. Like the pressure was low or system was air locked.
@@brendanfisher2528 It weird how that happens. I proved a customer lied for 9 months to engineers from 3 companies (insurance) about their heating system. They got pump, roomstat, cylinder stat, 3 port full rewire and cylinder replaced!!! It was piped wrong 20 months before when the new boiler was fitted..... The customer told the insurance when the engineer serviced the boiler (Worcester Ri) he caused the hot water to stop working.
Intergas are difficult to work on to replace parts. They have got a lot better with the last 2 models but "once bitten, twice shy". Im sure I will come around to them. Just not yet. :-)
Have you ever considered stripping fan down and replacing bearings. (If its a stiff fan). I know you want to be in and out at customers and domestic industry is marketed up for replacing parts not repairing them.
@@jamesasprey2092 I enjoy fixing stuff. I think thats all you need to be good at breakdowns. It takes time to learn but everyone can do it. Thanks for watching! :-)
HeatingGeek I’m 50% install 50% breakdown and service,been in the game 19 year this year I find fixing a boiler more satisfying than putting one one the wall hope to be 100% breakdown/service soon! great vids I think you’ve a gift for teaching (mayb something to think about)! Happy new year look forward to seeing your vids this year 👌
@@tiabidgie Yes. Your multimeter shows potential difference (difference between where the 2 test probes are touching). If you were testing for 240v to a system pump but the neutral was broken at the wiring center you could have 240v but your multimeter will not show it. If you touched it it would hurt. If you tested the same pump for 240v by putting your black probe onto the earth it would show 240v. I might do a video about that.
The canoe filter generally cannot be removed as it is always scaled up. Don't even think it is listed as a part, don't quote me on that! Poor HW performance is generally the plate exchanger or the canoe filter blocked, as such it is a waste of time. You proved you did not need it by not replacing it! Fan? Where is your manual? Better to replace the rubber hoses with the upgrade kit, moves the sensor as well. You wait till the hoses split and total the PCB with hot water!!!!!
I will take that risk with the hoses 10 years old and never a problem. Never had F75 so not worried about relocating the sensor. The hoses are fine and as long as you don't leave chemicals in there. Speaking of which..... Chemicals in the system for 4 weeks now. Whoops, maybe I will drain it out tomorrow.
I’m not a heating engineer but love watching these video’s they are so interesting and the way you explained the different currents on the fan made so much sense.
Cool. I'm glad you like it. :-)
Really clear explanation of how a motor draws electric current. I enjoy your videos. Nice attention to detail.
Good. It didn't feel like a clear explanation.
I feel your pain, had a Worcester fan poo the bed on me during a service. The speed controllers on the greenstars are a nightmare. Cracking video!
Yep Worcesters seem to have more of an issue than Vaillant?? Both made by the same company though. Weird. I will do another Video about fans at some point. A lot more to them than people realise.
Absolutely gold dust ' with the knowledge provided,
Never suspected the fan '
Can you imagine doing a customer service and that happens' ' then you get told" well it was ok until you touched it.
It does happen though. Had a few PCBs do it on services.
jiust put this in my comment lol horrible feeling!
If I had a pound for everytime I've heard that from a customer. I once had one tell me I'd altered the cold fill on a WC after a boiler service. "Well it was fine before you serviced the boiler"... gotta love them customers.
"Had me pants pulled down"..... hilarious 😂
You are a legend buddy, what is the odds of that happening, very valuable info, looking forward to part 4. I just changed a fan PCB yesterday on a Greenstar 35 CDi to find out the fan was really noisy. All my suppliers shut early yesterday, at least the tenants had hot water and heating, hope the fan doesn't take out the new PCB or I will be out of pocket.
That can be a pain!! When are you going back?
@@HeatingGeek Ordered new fan, going back Thursday, hope PCB will stay alive till then. Paid £90 quid for fan PCB.
Man, this has got to be one of your best tutorials. Going to watch this a few times, pen and paper ready!!! Quality, Quality, Quality man!!
Its not as clear as I would like. I was a bit rushed (when doing it) but the info is there.
I've treated myself to a car hart tool pouch and a 114 fluke multifunctional tester recently since watching these vids 👌
Both of which will not let you down. I like how to tool roll can be used as a dustsheet too.
Yes I'm mostly fascinated with your way of testing sensor and electrical parts for fault finding etc they are very interesting beasts and you have a very good mindset of tackling anything new calm and better than any tutoring I've ever had / well done hope you do alot more my friend
Tool pouch could have done with another 3x little pouches the other end too lol
Hi you’re one of the best engineers I’ve seen in my life thank you for this video and happy new year 🎇
Thank you for watching!
Happy new year to you too.
What’s the chances of that man. Never had s fan break down on me while on site before. Amazing work as usual. Great Chanel. All the best for 2019. Keep the videos coming !!!!
Yeah pretty weird. Got loads of stuff planned for this year , so hopefully time will been my side.
another fantastic video to start the new year on Happy 2019 mate
Thanks. This was 3+ weeks ago!!
I snapped a screw into the Worcester fan nightmare. I ended up drilling the old screw out and then retapping the thread and putting a new screw in.
Will use your technique next time..
I snapped a screw too. Thats how we learn. :-) Time consuming though. Most people don't have a tap and die set on the van. :-)
Hi mate love your videos.Very good, especially during lockdown I’ve learned a lot from these. Brilliant insight when coming from doing mostly installs and only a handful of breakdowns really, feel like I’ve gained a lot of knowledge thanks a lot 👍
Thanks 👍. I'm glad it helps. ;-)
Ive just found your stuff. This is gold. Thanks
Glad you found it. Can I ask how you found it?
@@HeatingGeek i saw some mention it on facebook. The boiler breakdown group. Really looking forward to more vids
@@timmyturbo1000 That was me. :-)
@@timmyturbo1000 Thanks for watching :-)
im sure this started out with a main heat exchanger flush attempt lol
just goes to show the real life situations when your at a customers house doing a service or a simple repair and something packs in and "its your fault"
realy enjoying the videos, not many uk engineers on youtube going into as much detail as you, im a fairly new gas engineer and there is so much to learn, i watch your channel every time you upload... keep them coming..
happy new year to you and your family..
hope to see more of these quality videos in 2019
brendan (west yorkshire)
I will keep them coming! Going to try and get a lot bigger this year so I can show Really in-depth stuff and save us a lot of money as engineers.
The heat exchanger was still Noisy after this.... Is it fixed now??????
Hi, I am going to say No, not fixed yet. Great video. Thanks
@@leeedwards3783 I have hot water but haven't checked for the noise. I will this weekend.
@@HeatingGeek i'd say no, but 4 weeks of having chemicals in there something could of shifted! you might be lucky!!! looking forward to part 4!
Thanks for the videos.your great at explaining things.happy New year to you and your family and look forward to seeing more videos in 2019
Thanks. Im trying to get better at explaining things. Sometimes I skim over stuff I should explain better. Hopefully have part 4 up soon. :-)
I think the boiler was OK after, those hose connectors are a pain for killing the flow rate, its better to fit the replacement flow and return pipes with the sliding joints as those hoses will reduce the bore again, as for the filter what a pain they are, they always fall apart on removal.
Fantastic video
Real on the spot fault finding
Loved it
Real life. No script no BS just trying to fix boilers. :-)
Good video..thanks and please more of them...am learning too And clueless on the technical side of it..thanks again
No problem. Got loads planned :-)
You will pick it up. Keep watching and one day it all just clicks.
The 7.81V may be not fan off but a slow speed just to keep the combustion chamber purged of flammable gas so it can do a warm start on heat demand.
The fan on my Ferroli 77FF was claimed as '2 speed' - in effect full speed and tick-over - possibly to stop the boiler heating water from the pilot light - LOL !
No tick over on this. The ferroli uses the tick over to entrain air from outside into the boiler so the pilot doesn't go out. Most fan assisted boilers used a tick over for this reason.
@@HeatingGeek The pilot doesn't go out in any case.
I know this ;)
Happy New Year to you and your family!
you too. have a great one.
Cutting new threads - alternative would be to swap the plate over your screwing it to - so you replace only half the fan casing ?
no. The halves don't come apart because they are bonded together to be gas tight. Gas air mixture inside
@@HeatingGeek But clearly it appears to be held together with screws !
Happy New year mate, in machining we always use wd40 as a lubricant to cut Ali whether threads or surfaces it's always cleared well. Changed quite a few fans in my time never had the need to use that technique,but will bare that one in mind in the future ! I thinks it's because the Ebmpapst fans fit a multitude of boilers so the thread patterns suit many. I know from previous experience there is Very rarely anything wrong with the motor...it's the board on the top that a component goes pop...still as you say "trousers down" tell you what if you changed that fan and that noise is still there your gonna loose some hair mate ! Great vids keep it up.
It was..... Part 4 to follow
Dude, reality TV at its best. I had my pants pulled down recently by city plumbing for an eco Tec pump.
Did you check the old fan - to see if it would rotate ? Had a blade broken and jammed it ?
Well, you did take the air intake pipe off - with that off, could something have dropped into the air intake and jammed the fan ? In which case, new fan not needed ;)
Nothing in there. The fan isn't used to running hard. I know exactly what caused it to fail and will be doing a video on it. Sometime.
@@HeatingGeek Fan should have no issue running full speed. So what caused it to fail ?
@@millomweb In a future video you will see.
Another quality video 👍 maybe the first “live failure” of a boiler fault ever lol...
Much better fan connector on the Vaillant than the Worcester’s
Keep up the good work... hope you have a prosperous 2019 🙂
Thanks. Im working hard in the background!!! Not on this stuff though :-(
The heat exchanger was still Noisy after this.... Is it fixed now??????
HeatingGeek did you replace the heat ex ?
Thanks for reply ,and yes i really do love watching your video,sI am 70 now and a retired plumber from the old days , and just want to ask ,i may mention that my Baxi solo 18 is playing up ,but if i press rest i can keep it going,So basically what should i replace it with, whats your best advice, cheers pete from newarkPs yes we are going to keep the pre lagged cylinder and just install a 42 18 ,so its upgraded ,There are just so many people saying this boiler or that ,But you really do know what your talking about this very obvious.
I would suggest you look at a witch report. There are a lot of new boilers (models) out there without any real running time behind them. I think I would fit a Worcester Ri if I needed a heat only boiler. Cant say it will last much more than 8-10 years though.
Ri because its been out 10 + years.
@@HeatingGeek Ok think i will do that cheers for all your very good advice,I must add its quite sad though i mean the time they last when i think back to that old Potterton floor standing kingfishers we used to fit many years ago and would last about thirty years or s,, but thanks again.
@@peterryan7827 Your right. New boilers give up reliability for efficiency and cost saving. Its a race to the bottom. Very sad :-(
So did that fix the problem with the main heat exchanger prob not.the coils are most likely partially blocked!.
Excellent video it's a shame about the fan.
I have also had a pcb go by turning off and on at the mains you should always turn off at the fused spur and then turn boiler control knob to off then turn fused spur on and then boiler on and hopefully it will prevent the power surge taking the board out!!
Noise was still there afterwards.
Great video as usual, all the best to you and your family for the new year 👍🎄👍🎄
Thanks. :-) You too.
Mate how are you simulating the tap running using the filling loop? Cheers mate
The tap is already open. When the filling loop valve on the mains is "filling" it isolates the mains. So you can control the hot tap with the handle.
Hope that made sense.... Im out.
@@HeatingGeek Cheers buddy much appreciated
Happy New Year 2019. Another great practical video
Glad you like it. :-)
Brillaint video ime curious to know how old is the boiler and how much was the fan,i just love your great advice and tips .
Boiler is 10 years old and I say how much the fan was in the video. (I cant remember now).
@@HeatingGeek Yes £170 i think thats right cheers again,and yes brilliant videos, i just love watching them.
Have you got a link to the fluke probes you are using please
In the description. I think. :-)
black is hall sensor, blue is PCB earth red 22-24vdc grey speed control.
Is it. I just work it out on-site usually. Thanks for letting us know. it will help people out a lot. :-)
Ive had two fans fail on me ever... both Worcesters, one was being serviced on high fire and pop, the other i left the boiler off at the fuse for 4 days and the fan wouldn't work after turning the appliance back on after the work was complete!
I think turning power off causes a lot of issues. One day I will prove this!
@@HeatingGeek whats best practice? just turn on/off by fused spur?
@@tysonbruno Best practice is "safe isolation".... soooooo off at the spur and do all the tests etc. I must admit there are a few boilers I try not to turn off. Cxi is one and older ecotec (2004-2007) is another. I always tell the customer that sometimes they don't work afterwards.
does the side panels not come off on that version? water pressure sensor is a bitch when they don't come off
No. Only come off on the ecoTec 2 (the one with no knobs)
Thanks mate, never knew what all the wires did on the fan, surely the fan didn’t like being disturbed or put on max rate? Seems to coincidental.
Guess it was on its last legs and I pushed it over the edge.
Have you got any videos on the basics of a boiler and the process and what part does what? Cheers
Not at the moment. A few people have asked for it though. A soon as the opportunity presents itself I will do it.
HeatingGeek appreciate it cheers 👍
Great Video!!! Made me laugh when he put up on the screen "I'll use the earth for Ground so It can't Trick me!" How many times have we been in front of a boiler testing and thinking to ourselves or even saying out loud..." The little bastard is it trying to trick me " Lol.... I know I have!!! Love watching your videos keep em coming Dude!!
If your not sure of the wiring, you got to use earth. Otherwise you do it twice, like i did in this video!!
They are all trying to trick you!!!
I turned off the power to one and went to turn back on pcb failed just on a routine service never went near it
Just imagine trying to explain that to the customer just like that fan . You could end up paying for that as they will say it worked fine before you touched it . Happy new year hate to say on camera you are getting a little thin on top just like me LOL
Im in denial!!
"con" is the usual PCB failure thing.
what a proper clued up guy you know youre stuff right enjoyed what a clever guy thanks 4 youre expertise keep posting really interesting op bloke
I'm having a little break from it all. Enjoying my evenings and mornings again.
Nice video lot of information. Learning a lot. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Vaillant. My favourite boiler.
Mate your videos are quality! Was you a breakdown engineer apprentice or have you done a few courses and picked things up through your career? I’m only an installer at the minute but really want to get on the breakdown side of things, going to do the Baxi course and try go from there but wondering your opinion on trying to jump in like that whether I’ll make any money or just wasting my time
I started as an Installer. Then got moved to breakdowns. I taught my self for 15 years. I have been trained by vaillant about 5 years ago and that took it to another level. (found my mojo again). Just keep at it and go for it. You only live once so better to try and fail than not to try at all.
HeatingGeek when you say trained by valiant do you mean their training course or you worked for them? I was actually doing a landlord cert on one of these today and felt so much more confident after watching these videos I looked at it all and didn’t feel lost! Keep doing what doing mate 👍🏻
@@vincentransley8850 Thanks :-) I worked for Vaillant and they gave some great training. Nothing like what they give people at their 1 day courses.
What make are the twist cap multimeter leads?
Fluke. I will post a link later. :-)
amzn.to/2CfwCz4 Here they are.
HeatingGeek cheers for the link are they worth the money?
Yet another great video, have you managed to get part 4 done yet?
Not yet. Will try to get some editing don't tonight. Its really time consuming!!!
Looking forward to it. I've never edited anything myself but I know its a painstakingly slow process from what others have told me.
@@martinking1019 I haven't done anything yet. Too much home stuff to put first!!!
Bearing on the fan?
Nearly. The next video explains it all. :-)
Lol that’s why you mess with plumbing when the shops are open 👍
So true. :-)
Would you buy another Vaillant ?
Yes.
@@HeatingGeek They look a bit of a nightmare :)
Fan failure live - while your working on the boiler - once when I was tinkering with my boiler there was a effing earthquake !
Honest, it wasn't me ! LOL
You're watching a lot of videos!!!! I can't keep up with your comments :-):-)
@@HeatingGeek 3 more to go ;)
I was just watching your system diagnosis video and this pops up. Excellent! You still heat exchanger problems?
Yep.
Hi Help needed can you just replace the pump head on the Vaillant Ecotec 837
If it has has a grundfos in there already you can. (with a Vaillant pump that you took the head off)
Hi Oli,
The 54 Fault we discussed re :
The Ecotech Plus R2 was attended by Vaillant Service.
That replaced the gas valve under warranty.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Lance.
I thought so ;-) Hopefully its fixed!
Before changing the fan, why not connect the new fan up to the boiler and see if it actually runs ? If not, the problem was not the fan !
Because I know its the fan. :-)
@@HeatingGeek Could have been the controller !
I had a fault with my boiler - which I fixed. A year or so later discovered a fault-finding chart in the manual - so I went through that with the same symptoms - and it recommended changing the gas valve.
The actual problem was that the gas supplied wasn't flammable.
The fix was to take the gas pipe off before the meter, open the gas valve until I could smell gas and then reassemble and purge the last bit of the pipework. Job done.
Fella you didn’t say if you fixed the hot water fault that it all started with , and you was talking about binning it what is your boiler of choice to replace it m8
The hot water is fixed now but it wasn't after this. Part 4 coming up ASAP
I would of fitted another ecotec 837
This better than most of the rubbish on TV
Thanks. :-) better than rubbish is as good as it gets here :-)
Hard luck that. Service and maintain hundreds of these. Can count on one hand the amount of fans I've had to replace!
Me too. I was shocked and glad it happened when filming. Bit of a result really.
Great vid I'm really enjoying it 👍
Good, thats why I do it. My boiler appears to be fixed at the moment (after part 4) so maybe it (part 4) will be last in this series.
No not fixed. The fan hasn’t a connection to the blocked heat exchanger. I think your main heat exchanger is goosed. Great vid again. You should put your company name in the videos , you ll get loads of work because you know exactly what your doing
Your absolutely right. Video 4 to come ;-)
HeatingGeek I fix boilers for a living, don’t install, love your videos and see how other people work. I have a fb Page - gas,bathrooms & boiler stuff. Would be great to have you on board. It’s for trade only. 👍
@@heatpump8566 I haven't sorted out fb yet. Never been on it..... Im on ukplumbersforum but they didn't want me to mention this youtube stuff so I kinda stayed away.
HeatingGeek if you come on our page when you can, you can post links to here. Would be really useful for less experienced engineers. We have 3700 members and counting. 👍 looking forward to your next videos
@@heatpump8566 What page is it. I just sorted fb out. My account is set up.
i had a worcester i junior fan break on me after i installed a couple of radiators for a landlord, was fine when checking before i started, only broke after checking the system after installation, March 2018 beast from the easiest, wasn't the best experience as you can imagine... haha, happy new year !
Unless you know the customer, they will blame you. Its human nature. One thing I see a lot of is fans fail after the boiler runs hot. Like the pressure was low or system was air locked.
happened to me also.. swapped a radiator.. boiler fired up.. then blew the pcb "IT WORKED BEFORE YOU CHANGED THE RADIATOR"
@@brendanfisher2528 It weird how that happens. I proved a customer lied for 9 months to engineers from 3 companies (insurance) about their heating system.
They got pump, roomstat, cylinder stat, 3 port full rewire and cylinder replaced!!! It was piped wrong 20 months before when the new boiler was fitted.....
The customer told the insurance when the engineer serviced the boiler (Worcester Ri) he caused the hot water to stop working.
BEST GAS ENGINEER EVER !!! BUT A DUMB CHOICE FOR FOR A BOILER .
INTERGAS ALL THE WAY !!!
Intergas are difficult to work on to replace parts. They have got a lot better with the last 2 models but "once bitten, twice shy". Im sure I will come around to them. Just not yet. :-)
You’ve got the knowledge but a very long procedure of describing....
Overall good ☝️
Sorry for that. Its just how I am. :-)
Have you ever considered stripping fan down and replacing bearings. (If its a stiff fan). I know you want to be in and out at customers and domestic industry is marketed up for replacing parts not repairing them.
Find somewhere that sells reconditioned fans and send it to them, got 15 quid that way it's like mauma mobile for boilers!
Does how it end mean there’s a part 4 coming pal?
Yep
Your a credit to the trade pal 👌
@@jamesasprey2092 I enjoy fixing stuff. I think thats all you need to be good at breakdowns. It takes time to learn but everyone can do it. Thanks for watching! :-)
HeatingGeek I’m 50% install 50% breakdown and service,been in the game 19 year this year I find fixing a boiler more satisfying than putting one one the wall hope to be 100% breakdown/service soon! great vids I think you’ve a gift for teaching (mayb something to think about)! Happy new year look forward to seeing your vids this year 👌
@@jamesasprey2092 A lot of people (5 or 6 who am Kidding) have said that I should teach. Maybe when I can do it anymore I will.
great video as always...
Thanks. :-)
Quality videos! 👌
Thanks. :-) for watching them.
More plot twists than eastenders!
Its nearly done now!!!
HeatingGeek can you always put the black on the earths/chassis when looking for voltage to components?
@@tiabidgie Yes. Your multimeter shows potential difference (difference between where the 2 test probes are touching). If you were testing for 240v to a system pump but the neutral was broken at the wiring center you could have 240v but your multimeter will not show it. If you touched it it would hurt. If you tested the same pump for 240v by putting your black probe onto the earth it would show 240v.
I might do a video about that.
You are good..
Had a really bad day today so feel Sh@#. Couldn't fix a boiler today.... :-(
Very helpful, thNks m8
No problem. I'm hope it helps.
I would like to offer you a job!!!
How much and where?
Can I be his assistant
The canoe filter generally cannot be removed as it is always scaled up. Don't even think it is listed as a part, don't quote me on that!
Poor HW performance is generally the plate exchanger or the canoe filter blocked, as such it is a waste of time. You proved you did not need it by not replacing it!
Fan? Where is your manual?
Better to replace the rubber hoses with the upgrade kit, moves the sensor as well. You wait till the hoses split and total the PCB with hot water!!!!!
I will take that risk with the hoses 10 years old and never a problem. Never had F75 so not worried about relocating the sensor.
The hoses are fine and as long as you don't leave chemicals in there.
Speaking of which..... Chemicals in the system for 4 weeks now. Whoops, maybe I will drain it out tomorrow.
Plumb center. I bet you paid over £100 for that . Way too expensive place.
Yep way way over.
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Again.... What. I'm confused.'
No
Yes?..