no it's not. i have a vega 56, at stock it easily games literally every game at 4k ultra settings. i flashed bios to 64 and easily get literally over 60 fps on literally every game on 4k ultra settings.
Literally every game at Ultra 4k? Wow, so its over 2x more powerful than the GTX 1080ti huh... Captain Obvious and I are calling BS on that statement...
Jake I am also calling BS on your statement since I actually own a 1080ti and run every game on ultra. If I turn off V-sync, which I actually like having on, I average at least 65-75 fps depending on the game. Although, I sometimes choose to run high settings to make sure the lowest fps I get is around 50-55 fps so it is a smoother experience. Regardless of what settings I use on a game I do make sure to disable Anti-aliasing because it ruins performance for no real benefit. I don't doubt he can maintain 60 fps on a MIX of ultra and high with no anti-aliasing or anistrophic filtering on most if not all games. Heck, my father plays 4k 30-45 fps on high settings easily on his 1060 3GB. The only issue is that it is not very maintainable since he has to either reduce settings or risk crashing on open world games, such as Just Cause 3, for hitting VRAM limitations so he plans on getting a 1070ti soon and using his 1060 in a build for my little cousins.
I flashed the Vega 56 to a Liquid Cooled Vega 64 bios and achieved 1725MHz Core and 1100mhz stable memory on my Gigabyte Vega 56. Undervolted a to 1150Mv and power consumption is around 250W but the card outperforms my own Reference Vega 64 easily.
It's always fun to play around with stuff like this, even if it doesn't offer any improvements (and also fun to watch). I like these vids from you. While the flash didn't increase avg fps that much, it did bring up the minimums, which could be even better. I would do it, if i had a Vega56, but doing X-Fire is way too expensive.. as you stated, and just grabbing a 1080Ti would be the smartest route.
Have you tried reducing your Vega voltages yet? Reduces temps, power consumption which allows higher P states (clocks) before power and thermal throttling knock them down a notch.
For a second I thought you were gonna crossfire it with something like the rx 550, for those extra 8 units! Maybe do this with Raven ridge when it releases to see what happens?
i tough flashing vega 56 to 64 and and under volting it and then oc it will make it almost vega 64 can u try doing all of this steps or its just a myth
Worked for me! Undervolting the gpu + overclocking the memory gave meg ~15-20% extra (compared to the stock 56). It's almost certain that the flashed Vega 56 was throttling in this review, like mine before the UV. It was running on even lower frequencies than the stock 56.
dude ignore the ufd noob .. it is very easy and has huge benefits on gaming .. you flash the bios and then use msi afterburner to oc and slightly undervolt .. turn your fans up and core could running depending on your cooling efficiency more than 1600-1640 ! even when it gets hot core would operate at 1580 .. memory 1011 !
Another super fun and awesome video, fun fact I have my EVGA 1050 ti gpu's bios posted on Techpowerups website because apparently no one else posted one😂. This video was fun and informative (just like your other videos) so thanks for the awesome upload. 😊 #🐧Up
if it supposed to use crossfire, recommend adding a game profile in the adrenaline driver and changing the default crossfire method to the game profile if it has one, except gta v which just works no matter what you do, great game that.
Tried the same with my Vega 56 and the, at least for me, clear Result was, not worth the risk of flashing. Went back to original BIOS, tweaked it and put a custom cooler on it (Rajintek Morpheus II) and according to TimeSpy/Firestrike/SuperPosition it now competes pretty good with nVidias 1080. Save yourself the Time, altough at first the idea sounds nice but after all there, at least with my GPU, is a good reason why AMD sold it as a 56 and not as a 64, guess my 56 just couldn't hold the clocks stable a normal 64 can.
my rx480 to 580 flash was necessary to fix the PCIe power overdraw causing system crashes, so if I can get one of these $300 vega 56s they hopefully won't have that problem
Why not to flash air cooling card with bios of water cooling card? I have Powercolor R9 290X (reference blow air cooling) and successfully flashed it with Powercolor R9 290X LCS (water cooling) and I've been using this card for 3 years without problems. And the ability to overclock is much better :)
I asked this last time when you did the rx 480 bios change but is it possible to change any of Nvidia's bios on their cards? Also this might be a stupid question but what about motherboards could you change the bios of a mother board and make a locked overclocked board overclockable? (This would only be relevant for Intel boards tho)
is this good my gtx 1060 3gb oc +700 mhz mem clock got $.75 in 4hrs and can you recommend me some gtx 1060 3gb or 6gb clocks for best mining speed thanks in advanced
Does the higher memory clock speed help the 56 mine as well as (or at least close to) the 64 with the near 56 power consumtion? I mean ethereum sure could benefit from extra memory bandwidth.
Again all the benchmark results I've seen so far, including these, just confirm that games are not using all of the GPU cores (which again isn't surprising as it is very difficult to program), not on the the Vega 56, certainly not on the Vega 64 and maybe not even close. So I am not really surprised to see low to negative X-fire results due to added overhead, bad scaling, sub par drivers(?) and very little difference in gaming performance between the 56 and the 64. In gaming more cores usually don't compensate for a lack of per core performance (what we call "IPC" when comparing CPU cores). In my opinion AMD has to come up with a new generation of gaming specific GPU cores and until then there's nothing they can do against Nvidia's leadership in gaming, except of producing GPGPU cards for content creators, miners and server applications, striving for at least making a few bucks there.
Great video! I loved the enthusiasm! You should really reach out to Linus Tech Tips, You guys have a very similar feel and I think you could or would do well on Floatplane ;)
just sayin. crossfire doesnt suck. its that no game develepers want to pu the rnd into it. i think that gpu comanies could help pay for rnd to support there multi gpu profiles. but those games that do benefite from it BENEFITE FROM IT. elite dangourous for example, nearly doubles performance. when next gen gpus come out ill just pick up a vega 56 to crossfire with my current one for half the price as new and call it a day!
crossfire/sli could be way better but devs just dont have time for it between the differences just in amd vs nvidia they have a lot to do then u have the stupid price points and lack of any support from either manufacturer as well as things like gsync which make buying high end gear proprietary i onyl wish it worked better then this 144hz freesync monitor would get proper use
You trying overclocking Vega. Cards don't even hit their actual boost clocks, good luck trying to get more out of the core clock. Also, Vega 56 has some artificial limits on voltages that are removed with flashing.
You have no idea how much my country is being fanboy. Intel released coffee lake, immediately in stock, ryzen came, 5 months later finally in stock, nvidia 10th series came, immediately in stock, amd rx came, 5 months later finally got 400 series, 500 never came, probably vega will do too
So it's .... An RX Vega 56ti ?
Milan Svitek it's shit m8
no it's not. i have a vega 56, at stock it easily games literally every game at 4k ultra settings. i flashed bios to 64 and easily get literally over 60 fps on literally every game on 4k ultra settings.
Literally every game at Ultra 4k? Wow, so its over 2x more powerful than the GTX 1080ti huh... Captain Obvious and I are calling BS on that statement...
30fps? console like xbox one x and ps4 pro runs many games at 30fps.
Jake I am also calling BS on your statement since I actually own a 1080ti and run every game on ultra. If I turn off V-sync, which I actually like having on, I average at least 65-75 fps depending on the game. Although, I sometimes choose to run high settings to make sure the lowest fps I get is around 50-55 fps so it is a smoother experience. Regardless of what settings I use on a game I do make sure to disable Anti-aliasing because it ruins performance for no real benefit. I don't doubt he can maintain 60 fps on a MIX of ultra and high with no anti-aliasing or anistrophic filtering on most if not all games.
Heck, my father plays 4k 30-45 fps on high settings easily on his 1060 3GB. The only issue is that it is not very maintainable since he has to either reduce settings or risk crashing on open world games, such as Just Cause 3, for hitting VRAM limitations so he plans on getting a 1070ti soon and using his 1060 in a build for my little cousins.
I flashed the Vega 56 to a Liquid Cooled Vega 64 bios and achieved 1725MHz
Core and 1100mhz stable memory on my Gigabyte Vega 56. Undervolted a to 1150Mv and power consumption is around 250W but the card outperforms my own Reference Vega 64 easily.
Yo bring these type of videos back. I enjoyed this a lot. (:
does he even breath ?
Man... what are you smoking ?
Great vid, very interesting! Thanks.
Hope the card was all good after haha! Was impressed nobody else has had a crack at this, top notch content
It's always fun to play around with stuff like this, even if it doesn't offer any improvements (and also fun to watch). I like these vids from you. While the flash didn't increase avg fps that much, it did bring up the minimums, which could be even better. I would do it, if i had a Vega56, but doing X-Fire is way too expensive.. as you stated, and just grabbing a 1080Ti would be the smartest route.
I didn't know I had epilepsy until I saw 6:31
Have you tried reducing your Vega voltages yet? Reduces temps, power consumption which allows higher P states (clocks) before power and thermal throttling knock them down a notch.
flash the 64 with a 56
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Great video. For myself i would rather keep it as is and not flash it. Not much of an increase to see it being worth it. Keep up the great work
For a second I thought you were gonna crossfire it with something like the rx 550, for those extra 8 units! Maybe do this with Raven ridge when it releases to see what happens?
i tough flashing vega 56 to 64 and and under volting it and then oc it will make it almost vega 64 can u try doing all of this steps or its just a myth
For gaming? No. For mining? Yes.
Worked for me! Undervolting the gpu + overclocking the memory gave meg ~15-20% extra (compared to the stock 56). It's almost certain that the flashed Vega 56 was throttling in this review, like mine before the UV. It was running on even lower frequencies than the stock 56.
dude ignore the ufd noob .. it is very easy and has huge benefits on gaming .. you flash the bios and then use msi afterburner to oc and slightly undervolt .. turn your fans up and core could running depending on your cooling efficiency more than 1600-1640 ! even when it gets hot core would operate at 1580 .. memory 1011 !
Another super fun and awesome video, fun fact I have my EVGA 1050 ti gpu's bios posted on Techpowerups website because apparently no one else posted one😂. This video was fun and informative (just like your other videos) so thanks for the awesome upload. 😊 #🐧Up
+Waseem H Awesome Waseem!!! Thanks contributing to the GPU BIOS community! Appreciate your support!
I will never use crossfire again after using a HD7990 it used to get so hot. Didn't always work in some games
How does it perform on mining ? With or without crosfire
Certain drivers have issues with the Flashed 56. It helps with mining but can hurt with gaming, from what ive found.
Remember to breathe. Looked like you were gonna pass out droning on.
if it supposed to use crossfire, recommend adding a game profile in the adrenaline driver and changing the default crossfire method to the game profile if it has one, except gta v which just works no matter what you do, great game that.
Tried the same with my Vega 56 and the, at least for me, clear Result was, not worth the risk of flashing. Went back to original BIOS, tweaked it and put a custom cooler on it (Rajintek Morpheus II) and according to TimeSpy/Firestrike/SuperPosition it now competes pretty good with nVidias 1080. Save yourself the Time, altough at first the idea sounds nice but after all there, at least with my GPU, is a good reason why AMD sold it as a 56 and not as a 64, guess my 56 just couldn't hold the clocks stable a normal 64 can.
Uh the whole point of the flash is for overclocking... You know cuz the higher voltage and TDP... This is dumb...
Thanks for the video!
Exactly what iwas looking for!!
Great video Thanks Linus!
Just sauce, boom.
Raw sauce.
The results are so bad it's not even worth going through the hassle
my rx480 to 580 flash was necessary to fix the PCIe power overdraw causing system crashes, so if I can get one of these $300 vega 56s they hopefully won't have that problem
but but but... amd competition is good for us
I have a Vega56 and I can't find any reason to want something more powerful for the moment.
Bought a Freesync 144 hz monitor, so I'm patiently biding my time for Vega 264.
Vega 56 + Vega 8 = Vega 64
IQ 2000
Why not to flash air cooling card with bios of water cooling card? I have Powercolor R9 290X (reference blow air cooling) and successfully flashed it with Powercolor R9 290X LCS (water cooling) and I've been using this card for 3 years without problems. And the ability to overclock is much better :)
+Stefan Stefanov Vega specifically can't handle the added voltage & clocks of the water cooled version with it's reference fan design.
Help I get SubsytemIDs mismatch error when trying to flash. I have strix 56 and trying to flash strix 64 :(
Take a shot every time he says BIOS ;)
+Mister Shots Apt name OP.
I asked this last time when you did the rx 480 bios change but is it possible to change any of Nvidia's bios on their cards? Also this might be a stupid question but what about motherboards could you change the bios of a mother board and make a locked overclocked board overclockable? (This would only be relevant for Intel boards tho)
You can't flash Nvidia the same way you can with AMD. And motherboard's also a no.
Awesome, gonna watch it
Fantastic! Thanks!
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+Billy Gallagher WOOTY!!!
is this good my gtx 1060 3gb oc +700 mhz mem clock got $.75 in 4hrs
and can you recommend me some gtx 1060 3gb or 6gb clocks for best mining speed
thanks in advanced
Everyday's man on the water block, smoke CPU's
Anyway to install a DVI out port on a volta processing card? Would be cool a experiment!
Could you try this with vulkan using the multi-gpu setting?
I'm curious to see the theoretical performance :)
my watercooled vega 56 with LC 64 bios hits up to 1180mhz memory and 1652mhz core @ 150% power limit
Does the higher memory clock speed help the 56 mine as well as (or at least close to) the 64 with the near 56 power consumtion? I mean ethereum sure could benefit from extra memory bandwidth.
+Davor Dobrota Yes it does.
Can you talk about the results for mining?
Does it hash any better?
That thumbnail doe
What's the power consumption of 2 of these running in crossfire?
Choose one company for GPUs out of the two - MSI or ASUS?
No.
Sounds good.
Are you gona stream tonight?
No idea. Will only know 10-30 minutes prior.
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oh i thought you would crossfire the vega 56 with ryzen 3 2200g vega 8
sorry i was so late there was a 25000 acre fire and it was hard to breathe i had to wait until i got inside
sorry master
+DISTEEXE Hahaha, no worries friend! What matters is that you're here.
UFD Tech any ways nice video keep it up i am sure you are helping many people and wow!! your channel is growing fast
so....what would happen if you crossfired 2 vega 56 with bios's flashed to 64?
getting vega 64 for gaming and mining or getting a 1080 ti ?
If it's primarily for gaming? 1080 Ti. Primarily for mining? Vega.
UFD Tech wokey thx I primary use for mining xp
crossfire'ing those...did you use a nuclear power plant for the power draw? ^^
You forgot to include the apu vega 8 graphics
ashes uses dx12 multi gpu tech, you have to disable crossfire for the gpus to work together, it even says so in the graphics menu...
Good man I always like your video you are one of my inspiration star youtube channel as well
Again all the benchmark results I've seen so far, including these, just confirm that games are not using all of the GPU cores (which again isn't surprising as it is very difficult to program), not on the the Vega 56, certainly not on the Vega 64 and maybe not even close. So I am not really surprised to see low to negative X-fire results due to added overhead, bad scaling, sub par drivers(?) and very little difference in gaming performance between the 56 and the 64. In gaming more cores usually don't compensate for a lack of per core performance (what we call "IPC" when comparing CPU cores). In my opinion AMD has to come up with a new generation of gaming specific GPU cores and until then there's nothing they can do against Nvidia's leadership in gaming, except of producing GPGPU cards for content creators, miners and server applications, striving for at least making a few bucks there.
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Also, I like your TMNT shirt. :-)
+Andrew Jackson 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks.
Only The USA Says ZEE, Like the say Prawsesor,
I love your channel, but you must know the Big Shaq meme died 2-3 months ago.
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I disagree
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my vega 56 goes from 800mhz memory to 1000, which is a 25% increase
Mine is 900Mhz Stock
UFD Tech Power Pack AMD Vega Video
Great video! I loved the enthusiasm! You should really reach out to Linus Tech Tips, You guys have a very similar feel and I think you could or would do well on Floatplane ;)
someone eventually will find a way to edit timings, etc.
TIME TO WATCH THE NEW VIDEO 🐧UP
Could you do an AMD nicehash tutorial, and if you've already done it could you update it
Awesome!
Thanks friend!
Well you can just transform the Vega 64 into a Vega 72 easy
+WOPPER Quick maffs
thank you !
10 minutes of this guy flexing his Vega gpus
Big sauq
Man's not hot.
Hello!
just sayin. crossfire doesnt suck. its that no game develepers want to pu the rnd into it. i think that gpu comanies could help pay for rnd to support there multi gpu profiles. but those games that do benefite from it BENEFITE FROM IT. elite dangourous for example, nearly doubles performance. when next gen gpus come out ill just pick up a vega 56 to crossfire with my current one for half the price as new and call it a day!
Are all SLI configs bad???? because i want to get two 1080Ti's and put them in SLI
Yes. Never worth IMO.
Ok thanks very helpful i also think the 1080 Ti is fine on its own
Tech Talk Time if its ur only option u still should go for it even if its not that great, if you need 4k 60 on crazy preset, go for it
Luckily it's not my only option but thnanks for replying
crossfire.. that is still used ;)
can i get the link of the msi air boost vega 64 bios plsss
44K road to 45K
crossfire/sli could be way better but devs just dont have time for it
between the differences just in amd vs nvidia they have a lot to do
then u have the stupid price points and lack of any support from either manufacturer
as well as things like gsync which make buying high end gear proprietary
i onyl wish it worked better then this 144hz freesync monitor would get proper use
VEGA 56 (ti) in crossfire, THIS IS THE REASON WE HAVE GLOBAL WARMING!!! jokes but im sure it keeps you toasty.
Greate video time to update my gtx 580 on 3930k 😂😂😂😂
i miss my r9 295 x2 all of a sudden :'-(
BRICK!!
mining is the best multi gpu setup
I like turtles!
wtf is wrong with that Hitman?!
I'll buy them from you. Cryptonight........
Yes. I would run your silly crossfire setup. Why? Because that would mean I have a vega 56 and 64. Would I pay for it. Hell no.
For the 10x times, it proves SLI/Crossfire sucks!
Isn't better to just overclock?
You trying overclocking Vega. Cards don't even hit their actual boost clocks, good luck trying to get more out of the core clock. Also, Vega 56 has some artificial limits on voltages that are removed with flashing.
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most brave... or want to see you break it... ^^
You have no idea how much my country is being fanboy. Intel released coffee lake, immediately in stock, ryzen came, 5 months later finally in stock, nvidia 10th series came, immediately in stock, amd rx came, 5 months later finally got 400 series, 500 never came, probably vega will do too
Can I download a vega 56 ? :) I wanna uograde my r7 240 v2 1gb
As long as you donwload more RAM while you're at it.
Can I still win the 1070 ti???
You need a better mic!!
its good info
I think just oc is better
Nice