Many thanks, Euan 😊 We try our best, but we know we will make mistakes, and the stories won't be for everyone. As long as people are respectful, that's all we ask. Hope you enjoy the other videos. The earlier ones we cringe at now 😬
Many thanks for the kind comment. We try our best to retell the stories. Sometimes we may make one or two mistakes but otherwise, we do our homework before setting off out.
Fascinating story, thanks, you have told it really well! I think the Doctor had something to do with James's death, perhaps he paid someone to attack James as he would be recognized by James and anyone else in the area, had he been seen!
The number of stab wounds on a victim not matching with the number of holes in a shirt can mean absolutely nothing. Often an attacker is in such a frenzy, trying to cause as much damage in as short a time as possible, that they do not fully retract the weapon before stabbing again. Thus the same hole in the shirt could be used to cause multiple wounds simply by using the same hole in the shirt but altering the angle of the weapon. There's even cases of the attacker being in such a frenzy that they don't even retract the weapon from the flesh before they stab again, they will just use the same entry wound but angle the weapon differently then stab again to cause a bigger wound. The Yorkshire ripper is one example of this.
So many unanswered questions we will never know the answers to. It's fascinating to walk the steps of historical events. Thank you for this interesting video.
I love walking in these people footsteps, even though many of the stories are a little dark in nature. For me personally, it's the uncovering of the stories to begin with I love, then cross referencing using old maps with new maps, checking ancestry records etc just to confirm where we need to go. But nothing beats being at the scenes and seeing nothing has really changed in all those years.
Wow 😮 so interesting and mind boggling at the same time. Obviously he must have been hurt in dome shape and form by the stranger. From being perfectly healthy and nothing wring with him to collapsing at his aunt's house. Very sad becayse ge passed away. 😢 Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Many thanks for the kind comment. We do try our very best, and its a hobby of ours to dig into the archives and to find the locations where they all took place. Thats the buzz for me personally (Chris), actually visiting these places and sharing them with all you kind folk.
@DaysofHorror As you well know, local history is vital for future generations, and walking the history ' path ' adds such realism, doesn't it. We live in an age today where our history and heritage is being scrubbed out of schools. This makes your ( and your wife and others ) work all the more important. Thanks again, Colin ( Wakefield ).
I live on a narrowboat, I’ve moored around that area and walked around those ruins in the past, I’ve walked over those bridges and didn’t know it had such a sad story attached to the area. I see it’s got new graffiti now, I always thought it was a foundry for the canal because of the bridge being called smiths bridge but that’s just a guess, it’s great listening to your stuff I’m in Shropshire at the moment so it’s great to hear a Lancashire accent.
Another great video mate.......these stories always leave me confused!😊I don't think Columbo could figure out some of these stories 😂 great content mate,looking forward to the next one😊
Cheers Stephen! We do come across quite a few strange stories. It's also weird how we will be looking into one story and then something else comes our way at the same time that will make for another video!
I'm with Vicky on this one I think if he felt rejected he could of said it was the husband but I believe the Dr may have found someone else to do for him , but either way like you say we'll never know but you and Vicky on the case Iim glad that you do the research and able us to hear these awful cases in such beautiful surroundings thank you ❤
As someone who has been the victim of a knife attack, the damage to clothing doesnt necceasrily corrilate to wounds. I was stabbed twice in my leg but there was only one hole, as the knife caught in my trackies and he didnt pull back too far before lundging a second time. I kept the trackies for years after and I'd show them to people (dumb young me thought it was cool). The hole didnt line up with my scarrs. Clothes move around on your body as you move. Id imagine even more so if someone has a hold of you and youre trying to break free. If that is the only evidence of self harm, I do not buy it. Great video though sorry for the year late comment! 😂
Sorry to hear about your enocunter Terry, we hope you have recovered from it. We cant begin to imagine how you even get over something like that, be we hope you are doing well. I think when we did this video, well over a year ago now I think, but when we are out filming, we try to put ourselves in the position of those involved best we can and we this one I think I was being a little naive in thinking the stab wounds would match up to the clothing, but as you say, clothing does move and more so if being grabbed and a tussle ensues.
I'm not convinced that James inflicted the injuries himself. If he had, then surely some sharp implement would have been found in the vicinity, as it's unlikely that he would have disposed of it himself. I think he was definitely attacked possibly by the Dr. as suggested by Vicky.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I am not a doctor but I am wondering if the head grip which the attacker had James in could have caused an internal injury to his head which the doctor diagnosed as congestion of the brain. Also it not possible that in the struggle James's shirt could have ridden up exposing his body which made it possible for the attacker to stab him a further 3 times before he managed to free himself and run away. If the shirt was loose then if the knife was quickly pulled out of his body and reinserted then it is possible that the knife was still in the hole on the shirt when he was stabbed again. Looking at the area today does not mean that it had the same amount of vegetation at the time of the attack. Perhaps there were more trees and shrubs at the time and seeing the uncle leave the farm the attacker took cover under the shrubs or in the trees. Unless there was a full moon to see clearly even with a lamp would have been difficult. I cannot speak for the doctors wife but if there was almost 20 years difference between James and herself that is more than twice his age. I myself would have been quite surprised if anyone thought that there could be any sort of romantic relationship with myself and this teenager. If a lad of that age had to show such an interest in me I quite frankly would be amused and find ways to extricate myself from the situation. But maybe she considered James as a family friend and was naive enough not to even realise his romantic feelings for her.
when the stranger asked James for copper . he was obviously trying to lure him close , and when this did not work he followed him and adminstered some posioness cmemical to the lads body . there are chemicals which would bring those symtoms . NOW . as the lad had had an encounter with the husband of the lady he is obviously the number one sus . Perhaps there wer no amourous intent in the lads and the ladys engagements , perhaps they were just kindred spirits .. but the husband being a spiteful and jelous man assumed there was amours meanisn to the lieasion . NOW . there is no more dangerous man than he who feels scorned by his loved one . .and he is capabal of murder no doubt . soo is has to be the doctor . he has the means of delivering the poision and it was undeticable in those times . grest video man loved everyy second of it . and again what beautiful country side . faboulous .
Wouldn't he identify the doctor though if he could describe that much detail before losing consciousness. You'd think that would be the first thing he mentioned
Good channel . I go on the other paranormal sites, you however seem to cover the long lost almost unknown stories nobody else has covered. Definitely a niche in the market. Many of these accounts may not be paranormal...but then again...
It's a dam shame they are in rurally . Like the first old building if you owned the house if you had the money re built mate a new fan from down under Australia 🇦🇺 mate So be safe guys
The attacker could have grabbed him bu the shirt during the attack. That would explain why the lower wounds didn't go through the shirt because the bottom was pulled away and somewhat scrunched while the blows landed, perhaps. It could be that the doctor examining the wounds missed something, that's not entirely out of the picture or unheard of even in modern times. If he had enough time to describe the attack surely he'd have identified the doctor who he knew, it would be the first detail you give.
I always took that derelict building to be connected to the near by Swing Bridge, maybe a stop off point for when they used Horses along the towpath perhaps ? The building itself is of quite a size and looks to of once been quite grand for a farmhouse, but of course just guessing. Great videos these, seeing areas personally know and have been. Thank you. P.S another old tale kids used to tell each other was of a tunnel running from the Dunkenhalgh to around that area, as a secret escape passageway for when Catholics were persecuted back when Henry VIII Reigned - or so the tales went. More likely just kids nonsense, but didn't stop us looking for entrances and adding on thing's like hoards of unfound treasures hidden away.
Quite a story. I wouldn’t think it was the doctor who attacked him , as he knew the identity of the doctor and didn’t mention it to anyone. As you mentioned he worked in a chemical factory , so could have intentionally harmed himself with a sharp object contaminated with some chemical. Or someone else did that knew the doctor and his wife. All these old diagnoses of causes of death make me laugh. What is congestion of the brain , brought on by fright. What a load of rubbish. It’s more like some sort of poisoning from a chemical. I’m no doctor but these old diagnoses make no sense whatsoever. Great channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Okay - so - he was with the Drs Wife - the Dr caught them - while his shirt was undone - the doctor stabbed him several times - however He ran buttoning the shirt back on (?) - hence the missed-matched stab holes…he wouldn’t tell anyone because he didn’t want to embarrass the Drs Wife.
This is a curious one! So many questions. Why would a 30+ woman be out and about with a 16 year old lad. Why did the puncture marks in James's shirt not match the ones in his abdomen. If it was the Doctor ( access to drugs that could cause confusion) why didnt James identify him when he told his story. And of course "why" was this done at all. How very strange.
How bizarre. It's very difficult to injure yourself. I can't imagine anyone being able to stab themselves so many times and that fatally deep. The Dr is my suspect. His coat is the only thing that's puzzling me. BTW, these videos should come with a warning.. THIS CHANNEL IS VERY ADDICTIVE. BE PREPARED TO LOSE A WHOLE WEEKEND 😂
I think it was the Doctor to be honest- used a syringe with some noxious substance , probably thinking he was having an affair with his wife- but that being said, wouldnt James have recognised him? Even if he had grabbed him from behind he still must have got a glimpse surely? Anyway another good one folks 🏴
Do you not think that the what ever the chemicals that were being used or made in that factory might have had a psychological effect on the young man???? Interesting all the same thank you
I'm nearly 100% certain it was the doctor, I've watched hundreds of true crime shows and one thing that's consistent is when people commit murders they often do so using a tool of their trade. if the victim was poisoned I'm pretty certain it was the jealous Dr husband.
good possability he did it for her attention, and died of a broken heart,being in love in a onevsided relationship makes you a bit crazy. espeshally at his age.
This story is a strange occurrence indeed. On the one hand, the boys own account seems plausible but, the coroners verdict as to to how the wounds were inflicted....are quite bizarre to say the least.To do that to yourself would suggest the boy was "mentally unstable" or mad.... yet we are told, many said he was full of life and as normal anyone was at that time ?? absolute;y unfathomable.My view is this....how do we know that the shirt was the boys own shirt ? did someone replace it before he was seen by clinicians ? I think, somebody was talking absolute porkies... maybe, the coroner himself was the killer, who knows.
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Many thanks, Euan 😊 We try our best, but we know we will make mistakes, and the stories won't be for everyone. As long as people are respectful, that's all we ask. Hope you enjoy the other videos. The earlier ones we cringe at now 😬
Really enjoying these.and you give such clear insight into each case.good work mate.
Many thanks for the kind comment. We try our best to retell the stories. Sometimes we may make one or two mistakes but otherwise, we do our homework before setting off out.
Thank you for the story, it always amazes me how nature takes things back…
Definitely a weird one. Love the ruins. Shame the headstone is missing. Good video pal 😊👍
Cheers mate. Another bizarre case.
Hello Chris and vicky, another great video, very puzzling story, maybe the doc done it, sad ending, many thanks
Yes, alot of people sway to the doctor that did it. Shame we will never know. Thanks for watching Dorothy 😊
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Fascinating story, thanks, you have told it really well! I think the Doctor had something to do with James's death, perhaps he paid someone to attack James as he would be recognized by James and anyone else in the area, had he been seen!
Thank you Michael 😊
The number of stab wounds on a victim not matching with the number of holes in a shirt can mean absolutely nothing.
Often an attacker is in such a frenzy, trying to cause as much damage in as short a time as possible, that they do not fully retract the weapon before stabbing again. Thus the same hole in the shirt could be used to cause multiple wounds simply by using the same hole in the shirt but altering the angle of the weapon.
There's even cases of the attacker being in such a frenzy that they don't even retract the weapon from the flesh before they stab again, they will just use the same entry wound but angle the weapon differently then stab again to cause a bigger wound. The Yorkshire ripper is one example of this.
I see what you mean! 😊
So many unanswered questions we will never know the answers to. It's fascinating to walk the steps of historical events. Thank you for this interesting video.
I love walking in these people footsteps, even though many of the stories are a little dark in nature. For me personally, it's the uncovering of the stories to begin with I love, then cross referencing using old maps with new maps, checking ancestry records etc just to confirm where we need to go. But nothing beats being at the scenes and seeing nothing has really changed in all those years.
Wow 😮 so interesting and mind boggling at the same time. Obviously he must have been hurt in dome shape and form by the stranger. From being perfectly healthy and nothing wring with him to collapsing at his aunt's house. Very sad becayse ge passed away. 😢 Thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thanks a lot for your most interesting investigations.
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Many thanks for the kind comment. We do try our very best, and its a hobby of ours to dig into the archives and to find the locations where they all took place. Thats the buzz for me personally (Chris), actually visiting these places and sharing them with all you kind folk.
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As you well know, local history is vital for future generations, and walking the history ' path ' adds such realism, doesn't it. We live in an age today where our history and heritage is being scrubbed out of schools. This makes your ( and your wife and others ) work all the more important. Thanks again, Colin ( Wakefield ).
Really great channel. Only just discovered. You didn’t say how long it took to walk from the possible farm to the aunts farm?
I live on a narrowboat, I’ve moored around that area and walked around those ruins in the past, I’ve walked over those bridges and didn’t know it had such a sad story attached to the area. I see it’s got new graffiti now, I always thought it was a foundry for the canal because of the bridge being called smiths bridge but that’s just a guess, it’s great listening to your stuff I’m in Shropshire at the moment so it’s great to hear a Lancashire accent.
Many thanks for the kind words 😊
Very interesting, I feel it was the doctor
Wow i very often walk over that narrow bridge. Very interesting video, thanks very much 😁🤟💯
Another great video mate.......these stories always leave me confused!😊I don't think Columbo could figure out some of these stories 😂 great content mate,looking forward to the next one😊
Cheers Stephen! We do come across quite a few strange stories. It's also weird how we will be looking into one story and then something else comes our way at the same time that will make for another video!
I really enjoyed watching your new video tonight it was a sad one 😢I think it was the doctor x❤
I love to look at old buildings ..the history ..if only Walls could talk ..
I'm with Vicky on this one I think if he felt rejected he could of said it was the husband but I believe the Dr may have found someone else to do for him , but either way like you say we'll never know but you and Vicky on the case Iim glad that you do the research and able us to hear these awful cases in such beautiful surroundings thank you ❤
Thank you Sharon for commenting along with the lovely comments too 😊
As someone who has been the victim of a knife attack, the damage to clothing doesnt necceasrily corrilate to wounds. I was stabbed twice in my leg but there was only one hole, as the knife caught in my trackies and he didnt pull back too far before lundging a second time. I kept the trackies for years after and I'd show them to people (dumb young me thought it was cool). The hole didnt line up with my scarrs.
Clothes move around on your body as you move. Id imagine even more so if someone has a hold of you and youre trying to break free. If that is the only evidence of self harm, I do not buy it. Great video though sorry for the year late comment! 😂
Sorry to hear about your enocunter Terry, we hope you have recovered from it. We cant begin to imagine how you even get over something like that, be we hope you are doing well. I think when we did this video, well over a year ago now I think, but when we are out filming, we try to put ourselves in the position of those involved best we can and we this one I think I was being a little naive in thinking the stab wounds would match up to the clothing, but as you say, clothing does move and more so if being grabbed and a tussle ensues.
I'm not convinced that James inflicted the injuries himself. If he had, then surely some sharp implement would have been found in the vicinity, as it's unlikely that he would have disposed of it himself. I think he was definitely attacked possibly by the Dr. as suggested by Vicky.
It's a bizarre one!
Thank you for sharing this with us. I am not a doctor but I am wondering if the head grip which the attacker had James in could have caused an internal injury to his head which the doctor diagnosed as congestion of the brain. Also it not possible that in the struggle James's shirt could have ridden up exposing his body which made it possible for the attacker to stab him a further 3 times before he managed to free himself and run away. If the shirt was loose then if the knife was quickly pulled out of his body and reinserted then it is possible that the knife was still in the hole on the shirt when he was stabbed again. Looking at the area today does not mean that it had the same amount of vegetation at the time of the attack. Perhaps there were more trees and shrubs at the time and seeing the uncle leave the farm the attacker took cover under the shrubs or in the trees. Unless there was a full moon to see clearly even with a lamp would have been difficult. I cannot speak for the doctors wife but if there was almost 20 years difference between James and herself that is more than twice his age. I myself would have been quite surprised if anyone thought that there could be any sort of romantic relationship with myself and this teenager. If a lad of that age had to show such an interest in me I quite frankly would be amused and find ways to extricate myself from the situation. But maybe she considered James as a family friend and was naive enough not to even realise his romantic feelings for her.
when the stranger asked James for copper . he was obviously trying to lure him close , and when this did not work he followed him and adminstered some posioness cmemical to the lads body . there are chemicals which would bring those symtoms . NOW . as the lad had had an encounter with the husband of the lady he is obviously the number one sus . Perhaps there wer no amourous intent in the lads and the ladys engagements , perhaps they were just kindred spirits .. but the husband being a spiteful and jelous man assumed there was amours meanisn to the lieasion . NOW . there is no more dangerous man than he who feels scorned by his loved one . .and he is capabal of murder no doubt . soo is has to be the doctor . he has the means of delivering the poision and it was undeticable in those times . grest video man loved everyy second of it . and again what beautiful country side . faboulous .
Wouldn't he identify the doctor though if he could describe that much detail before losing consciousness. You'd think that would be the first thing he mentioned
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Thank you for a very interesting story I tend to think the Doc has something to do with it very sad ending for James though.
I think a few people think the Doctor may have been behind it. I just cannot hazard a guess. It's such a bizarre one.
Good channel . I go on the other paranormal sites, you however seem to cover the long lost almost unknown stories nobody else has covered. Definitely a niche in the market. Many of these accounts may not be paranormal...but then again...
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It's a dam shame they are in rurally . Like the first old building if you owned the house if you had the money re built mate a new fan from down under Australia 🇦🇺 mate
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The attacker could have grabbed him bu the shirt during the attack. That would explain why the lower wounds didn't go through the shirt because the bottom was pulled away and somewhat scrunched while the blows landed, perhaps.
It could be that the doctor examining the wounds missed something, that's not entirely out of the picture or unheard of even in modern times.
If he had enough time to describe the attack surely he'd have identified the doctor who he knew, it would be the first detail you give.
Sherlock Holmes .....When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
Love this! 😊
I always took that derelict building to be connected to the near by Swing Bridge, maybe a stop off point for when they used Horses along the towpath perhaps ? The building itself is of quite a size and looks to of once been quite grand for a farmhouse, but of course just guessing. Great videos these, seeing areas personally know and have been. Thank you.
P.S another old tale kids used to tell each other was of a tunnel running from the Dunkenhalgh to around that area, as a secret escape passageway for when Catholics were persecuted back when Henry VIII Reigned - or so the tales went. More likely just kids nonsense, but didn't stop us looking for entrances and adding on thing's like hoards of unfound treasures hidden away.
Quite a story. I wouldn’t think it was the doctor who attacked him , as he knew the identity of the doctor and didn’t mention it to anyone. As you mentioned he worked in a chemical factory , so could have intentionally harmed himself with a sharp object contaminated with some chemical. Or someone else did that knew the doctor and his wife. All these old diagnoses of causes of death make me laugh. What is congestion of the brain , brought on by fright. What a load of rubbish. It’s more like some sort of poisoning from a chemical. I’m no doctor but these old diagnoses make no sense whatsoever. Great channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Okay - so - he was with the Drs Wife - the Dr caught them - while his shirt was undone - the doctor stabbed him several times - however He ran buttoning the shirt back on (?) - hence the missed-matched stab holes…he wouldn’t tell anyone because he didn’t want to embarrass the Drs Wife.
I'm loving this train of thought!
Yes, see where you going with that 👍
Truly a bizzare case, as you say. It sounds like he was targeted for some reason. The evidence seems to point to the doctor, but who knows?
This is a curious one!
So many questions.
Why would a 30+ woman be out and about with a 16 year old lad. Why did the puncture marks in James's shirt not match the ones in his abdomen. If it was the Doctor ( access to drugs that could cause confusion) why didnt James identify him when he told his story. And of course "why" was this done at all.
How very strange.
To my mind, it was the doctor as he had the motive, the anger in him and the know how, in just how to stab James.
I'm thinking the same 😊
How bizarre. It's very difficult to injure yourself. I can't imagine anyone being able to stab themselves so many times and that fatally deep. The Dr is my suspect. His coat is the only thing that's puzzling me.
BTW, these videos should come with a warning..
THIS CHANNEL IS VERY ADDICTIVE. BE PREPARED TO LOSE A WHOLE WEEKEND 😂
i think it was more than likely the doctor
Yes, I agree 👍
I think it was the Doctor to be honest- used a syringe with some noxious substance , probably thinking he was having an affair with his wife- but that being said, wouldnt James have recognised him? Even if he had grabbed him from behind he still must have got a glimpse surely? Anyway another good one folks 🏴
Yes, Doctor is a good shout, and an affair. Thanks for watching from vickie x
I strongly suspect the cyclist in the blue top at 7:18 had something to do with it. Shifty type. I've seen his sort before!
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It's. Lady husband to worn the
Young of and he was Dr he new were to hurt him mate
Do you not think that the what ever the chemicals that were being used or made in that factory might have had a psychological effect on the young man???? Interesting all the same thank you
That's a good point. He was only young after all and who know what effects they could have had.
Think the doctor did it ..
I'm nearly 100% certain it was the doctor, I've watched hundreds of true crime shows and one thing that's consistent is when people commit murders they often do so using a tool of their trade. if the victim was poisoned I'm pretty certain it was the jealous Dr husband.
good possability he did it for her attention, and died of a broken heart,being in love in a onevsided relationship makes you a bit crazy. espeshally at his age.
Plausible,good point. Thanks Ian
This story is a strange occurrence indeed. On the one hand, the boys own account seems plausible but, the coroners verdict as to to how the wounds were inflicted....are quite bizarre to say the least.To do that to yourself would suggest the boy was "mentally unstable" or mad.... yet we are told, many said he was full of life and as normal anyone was at that time ?? absolute;y unfathomable.My view is this....how do we know that the shirt was the boys own shirt ? did someone replace it before he was seen by clinicians ? I think, somebody was talking absolute porkies... maybe, the coroner himself was the killer, who knows.