Bo Diddley said, Brian was a little dude that was trying to pull the group ahead. I saw him as the leader. He didn't take no mess. He was a fantastic cat; he handled the group beautifully. Bill Wyman said, do say, and do honestly believe, that if there wasn't a Brian Jones there wouldn't have been a Rolling Stones. He named the band, and he enlisted the members one by one. Jimmy Page (talking about the making of the A Degree of Murder soundtrack) Brian knew what he was doing. It was quite beautiful. Some of it was made up at the time; some of it was stuff I was augmenting with him. I was definitely playing with the violin bow. Brian had this guitar that had a volume pedal-he could get gunshots with it. There was a Mellotron there. He was moving forward with ideas Paul Jones said, Brian was such an ambitious young man, so determined, long before the Stones ever were. George Harrison said, When I met him I liked him quite a lot. He was a good fellow, you know. I got to know him very well, I think, and I felt very close to him; you know how it is with some people, you feel for them, feel near them. Dave Davies said, I’m not putting down anyone else in the Stones, but Brian was the true artist in that band. Sometimes he was into the whole rock’n’roll thing, but other times he just wouldn’t play the game. Alexis Korner visited Brian in late June 1969 and noted that "Jones was happier than he had ever been" and Brian had demoed a few of his own songs in the weeks before his death.
I like many of the Stones records from throughout their extraordinary career, but I do find their ‘Brian era’ material to be more musically interesting than their post Brian recordings.
When the Stones evolved away from pretty straight R&B Jones developed this fantastic gift for musical embellishment, embroidery, on unusual instruments, which lift songs into another dimension- the otherworldly, eerie mellotron on 2000 Light Years From Home makes the song, no less. Jones craved fame and adulation yet wasn’t psychologically suited to being a star, and self-medicated the pressures and stresses to the point where he was barely functioning as a musician. It’s pretty obvious that he could be a monumental pain in the a**, but the innovative 60s Stones, the band snapping at the Beatles’ heels, did not long survive his loss, and morphed pretty quickly into a much more one-dimensional rackinrowl outfit. They were, and still are, the less without him.
Yes, The Rolling Stones have a very rich 62 + year history, but I feel strongly that Brian Jones was a key contributor to their beginnings and the first era of the band. He played several different instruments in the band and his playing of all those instruments was prominent in their sound as a band. Yes, they went on to record several big hits and many great albums after Brian, but they needed him to establish the foundation. My verdict: No Jones, no Stones!
Playing an instr is something completely different than actually writing songs. Zappa composed on a piano til he got a Synclavier. But he could not actually play piano. When he finished something he called Ian Underwood to play it.
One thing is to see Jagger/Richard as credited songwriters..another thing is the real contribution of the musicians on every song ...a lot of uncredited sources on the stones compositions through the years..
@ This is were people just don’t get it: There is a difference between writing a song and being part of a band arranging it. True, Brian came up with a lot of stuff, but as a part of the song’s arrangement. The initial composition was never his.
Nietzsche wrote "In action there is power". Napoleon said "Audacity is the most important trait for a general." Brian took action--he conceptualized the idea of a blues-based two-guitar band who played hard-driving songs. He ran the ads seeking members for his idea for a band. He was audacious and he took action. Neither Mick or Keith would have done this.
@@TheaterPup No, he joined the Band of Mick, Keith and Dick Taylor that already existed. Dick Taylor left the group and was replaced by Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts was introduced by Ian Stewart. Brian did not found the group or recruite the members, except Bill Wyman, who was a friend of Brian.
Brian created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. He would pick up an autoharp or a flute or a glockenspiel or marimbas, and he would be able to do all of that kind of stuff.” Among the other instruments Jones played were the harmonica, sitar, organ, recorder, cello, trumpet, trombone, saxophone, oboe, and, of course, guitar. He made so many records successful because of that. Jones was in fact, the original public face of the band: the surliest and sauciest in press interviews, the most nattily dressed, the most lushly coiffed… and, most importantly, the most musically diverse. “I mean, he was brilliant musically in the early days.
No he didn't? It was Andrew loog Oldham and Mick Jagger, as soon as sighed Brian was insignificant,like Bowie said Brian looked short old and fat with terrible hair
@@dondamon4669Um Bowie was not talking about Brian Jones, genius. 😂 And even Andrew said Brian would often be in charge of the whole record. You are clueless.
He was great but you cannot honestly believe that Mick Jagger didn't have any impact when Brian was around. Mick Jagger was the star from the beginning. The stones were lucky to have Jagger as a front man. Brian gifted musician, magnetic and romantic personality but that was all.
Without Brian in the early days the Stones never would have happened. Also Charlie and Bill were the driving force of the Band they were the rhythm section
Yeah, Brian was integral in their success, but he was taking too many substances, missed gigs and didn't like the harder songs and sounds as rock and roll got heavier and became rock. The next three albums after he left are incredible and considered their best.
There is no indication he didn't like their harder songs. And even in the 70s Mick lamented they didn't have Brian's way with instruments. And most people consider the 60s era songs to be their best.
No one was doing that slide , that Bo Diddly did 8 years earlier,, ahem ,, it usually always starts in the states, when it comes to music at the begining of the 20th century
The Rolling Stones grew out of the group with Brian Jones (originally six musicians) into the group without him. That is a fact. The rest is factual or fictional opinion. They grew out of Blues, R&B, Black Rock 'n Roll and early Soul into American Roots Music based Rock. From interpretations of Black Music into performers of Roots Music based original material. And sometimes Pop (even by their Satanic Majesties - the Beatles - inspired ugly Pop - their real Satanic Majesty by the way was Andrew Oldham). Original Rock 'n Roll is American (based on Blues and Country). Rock mainly started in the UK. And was soon turned into an early form of Hard Rock (still based on Blues and R&B) by among others Led Zeppelin. No Jones, No Early Stones.And be honest: Brian Jones could play a lot of instruments - from well to a little. He could not play one of them brilliantly (like Mick Taylor the guitar). His slide guitar ? Listen to the original "Little Red Rooster" or to Kokomo Arnold as Gitfiddle Jim in "Paddlin' Madeline Blues". His harmonica ? Listen to Little Walter, or Walter Horton. His sitar ? Listen to Ravi Shankar in those days. And saxophone ? He was certainly no Charlie Parker. One of my favorite Stones songs is "No Expectations". The demo, the recording, the live version. Brian Jones could hardly play the guitar anymore. Only a little - simple, but very effective - slide guitar. It was his last significant contribution to the music of the Rolling Stones. I cherish that song.
I've seen them four times. First time was at Rich Stadium in Buffalo.... 1981... Journey and George Thorogood warmed up. Journey got booed off the stage!! 🤣
Having grown up in the sixties, that period of The Rolling Stones' career is the one that will always stick with me as their heyday. And of course, Brian Jones contributed GREATLY to the sound of their records. Too bad he was such a creep personally.
Drug use and its consequences destroyed a very talented musician. Who knows how the Stones music would have progressed forward? They haven’t done too bad without Brian, but I personally think they’d have made even more of an impact with Brian(R.I.P.) 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Bill was the only one to tell the truth about Brian, he respected him and knew full well had it not been for Brian there wouldn’t have been no stones, and it’s true. The same can be said of John Lennon, No Lennon No Beatles. No Jones, No Stones. Unfortunately the drugs and alcohol didn’t agree with Brian.
Jones was an excellent musician and without question was the reason the Stones got their start, however he wasn't a special talent. His biggest contribution to the band was finding Jagger and Richards. They were the special talent that really catapulted the group. He could play unique instruments (I think Mick Taylor was a far better guitarist) but didn't write music and success and the lifestyle from it got the better of him. He would have been wise to just be happy that Jagger and Richards were carrying the band forward instead of being jealous. Their music with Mick Taylor and even Ronny Wood defined the Stones to me much more.
All the Stones are special talents. And you know nothing about 60s Stones. Brian was their arranger. Btw I’d never want to be in a band with you. 🙄 Btw, it’s spelled Ronnie, “fan.”
@@TheaterPup Sorry I hurt your feelings. I don't think Brian was bad but I really think that the would have been a band that would have been remembered as a a groovy sixties band that covered the blues, Buddy Holly, (like everyone else )had they not had Jagger and Richards move them into their own. Thanks for the spelling correction on Ronnie. That certainly matters a lot.
@@sloppyjoe6243 And again, you clearly aren't familiar with 60s Stones. Ian Stewart was the Blues purist. Brian Jones was the one who provided unusual instruments and sounds.
The Stones didn't really find their footing until Beggars Banquet. They had great songs and a large following before that but didn't become The Stones as we know them until after 68'
Brian had his demons, but he didn't deserve to be throw out of his band, yes he wasn't in charge like he once was, but to get rid of him the way they did is horrible. Mick, Keith and their manager is what caused all this, same thing with the Rolling Stones piano player. Oh you didn't know they had a piano player? Ian Stewart who was the first one who answered Brian's ad for musicians in a Music Newspaper, The Music Express? Not Mick & Keith. But when Andrew Loog Oldham became their manager Stu was out of the line -up on stage and all other Promos. Still a Stone technically in the studio and relegated to tour manager he stayed like this till his death in the mid '80s while waiting in a doctor's office for a physical. But before this happened he was out of the studio by keyboardist Nicky Hopkins no fault of Nicky. Nicky was the greatest keyboardist to come out of England, Hammond B3 Organ but especially on piano(and were TALKIN' A PIANO, not an electric one)who got his start with Arthur Brown to the original Jeff Beck Group to the Stones. But Jones got fucked in the ass by the Glitter Twins and management before he even felt it. The Rolling Stones will always be Brian Jones' Band, and at least Mick can't handle that and Keith, all he did was steal Brian's girlfriend Anita? As he sees it. I saw them once in Worcester, Massachusetts at the Comic Store in 1966, the original band, Me and my sister were lucky to see them being our ages of 13 & 15. But after Brian died and the way you heard how Mick & Keith, especially Mick talked down about him, WTF!!! At the Hyde Park concert to introduce Brian's replacement Mick Taylor a fantastic guitarist(and several years down the road he left fed up with the bullshit in this band) just days after Brian died they did this big gig at Hyde Park in London with Jagger reading a poem by Shelley for Brian, BULLSHIT! That was it for me and I never saw them again and had plenty of offers and offers with good seats but no, no thank you. I met Bill Wyman at his Restaurant 'Sticky Fingers' in the Kensington section of London in 1990 and I asked him point blank what happened. Why didn't you and Charlie Watts back up Brian? He looked at me and said there's not a day that goes by that I don't think that, and Charlie would tell you the same. And then he stopped talking about Brian. He was showing me around the restaurant with all the Rolling Stones memorabilia on the walls, including Brian's white tear drop shaped VOX Guitar in a beautiful wall case in the middle of the restaurant in a place of honor. Brian's Band Indeed.....R.I.P. Brian 🙏 "A rolling stone gathers no moss", something to think about, food for thought.
At least Mick, Keith and Charlie came to Brian and told him personally he couldn't stay in the band, unlike the Beatles who let their manager do the dirty work when they got Pete Best out of the group. They also would've given Brian 100,000 ponds a year for life if he hadn't died soon after. They also let him spin his leaving any way he wanted.
@@searchthewind99 lol you're too funny nice try though! the truth is Mick, Keith and Charlie went to see Brian at Cotchford Fard on June 8th 1969 to ask Brian what he wanted to do and offered him a settlement if he wanted to leave the band plus in 71 when the stones sued Klein they had Brian's father alongt,hey woul'd have had Brian's father along if Brian didn't own the rights to the name of the band.
Brian was detrimental to them and bill Wyman should respect people that made him rich and a life! Jones never wrote one song! Its as simple as that, he never wrote a song
He never got credit for writing a song. But a lot of songs like Under My Thumb and Paint It Black would have sounded different without his contribution. Brian helped the Byrds create Eight Miles High. They wanted to give him writing credit, but he was so used to not receiving one that he told them to forget it.
@@TheaterPup Is ‘humility’ also to father six kids and take no resposibility, to hit and hurt prositutes and girlfriends as well? Is so, then yes. You are right.
@@HARALDEMANN LOLOL You're unable to discuss music so you rush to TMZ gossip. You're pathetic. And as a woman, you are the very last person I'd want defending me.
Astrology rules! The "in" crowd...jagger, richards, watts and wood...were fire and air the "out" stones...wyman, jones, mick taylor...were water and earth...they were sidelined notwithstanding their contributions
So sad what Andrew did to Brian who was and is the Stones he is so important, talented and a genius Bill says he was the most talented musician in the group. Then Brian got pushed out he was unable to be himself, stronger mick and Keith took over and to me when Brian was murdered they began to disagree and fight but Kieth was not frightened of mick as there was only one to disagree with and not three of them. No Brian no Stones.
@@TheaterPup You think you know how he felt? So you knew him personally I guess.....I think the reason was, that he was not the leader he always wanted to be and that's what he experienced more and more. He couldn't write the songs, he could not sing, he was not as good as Keith as musician, Mick now played the harp better than Brian ever did.....but that was not the fault of the others, that he didn't develop as musician.
I get that Brian became an obstacle to getting things done in the band because his addiction had gotten out of hand, but the way the other Stones treated him could have been handled better. Keith had a full blown heroin addiction but was never pushed out of the band. I guess because he was one of the main song writers in the band , it was a little different than Brian, because Brian wasn’t a real song writer. But when it came to the mechanics of how a song was developed, Brian’s mastery of a number of instruments, was extremely important. Although, by 1969 he was so wasted and depressed, apparently, he couldn’t be counted on for that. Again, I understand why he was fired but I think it could have been done in a more kinder manner. There’s always this question remaining, was Brian really that important to the Rolling Stones, and I think he absolutely was. If he wasn’t in the picture when the Stones started out, I don’t think the Stones would have made it.
Ich kann Mick Jagger sehr gut verstehen...er ist schon von seinen Naturell her sehr verantwortungsbewusst...daher war es gut, das er die Führung übernahm...der Erfolg gibt ihm recht ...er konnte das vorzüglich...auch sein sogenannter "Kontrollzwang" war wichtig, es hat zu einem großen Erfolg der Band beigetragen...man kann hier alles gut nachvollziehen... Wünsche für die weitere Zukunft weiter viel Erfolg... 🎵🎼🎶✌️🍀🍀🍀🔥⚡🎉.......🌻.......
Mick and Keith are noted for Ripping people off .Bill Wyman has said that he came up with the Jumping Jack Flash song's distinctive main guitar riff on a piano without being credited for it. It's said Mick Taylor co wrote several songs such as , Moonlight mile , Winter and so on but got no credit. Brian Jones. Marianne Faithful said, Ruby Tuesday the development of the song became a joint effort between Brian and Keith but Brian Jones got no credit !!! Charlie Watts guiltily admitted, We took Brian's one thing away, which was being in a a band.
Brian Jones was the Rolling Stones without doubt the best musician in the band and to be honest Mick and Keith were limited amateurs, Bill and Charlie were good musicians who carried the band, Brian was betrayed due to his personality and Andrew Oldham had a lot to do with this and in the end he was himself stabbed in the back,Keith is a very limited guitarist and both he and Mick were not really working musicians as were the Beatles for instance who had been working for years before becoming famous.Bill and Charlie were real musicians who had paid their dues.
That Keith and Mick were ‘limited’ on their instruments, didn’t held them back from doing what made the band: The songs. Without Mick and Keith’s talent for writing, they had ended up being a blues-combo playing round the clubs. Brian had talent for playing. So did Bill and Charlie. But Keith and Mick had the biggest talents for writing, and that’s what made them the superstars they became.
You take that sitar 🎶 part out of Paint it Blk. That Brian Wrote on the spot! Or the marimba part out of Under My Thumb! Or the Flute out of Ruby Tuesday! Those Songs are not nearly as good. & He received no credit or Publishing💲& They all wonder why he just got high & said F-it!
@ Arrangement is very important. However, an arrangement can’t be done without initial composition of a song. And with The Stones, the credits on the back of the albums always stated: Songs by Mick Jagger / Keith Richards. Arrangements by The Rolling Stones. If in doubt, then read the credits on the albums. They are very clearly stating that it’s the band arranging the songs. The only people who disagrees, are those who are butthurt over Brian Jones’ name isn’t plastered all over the credits. Brian himself did not once complain over credits in his lifetime. Not in one single interview. It’s his worshippers who are out to seek justice on his behalf, who are complaining.
@@HARALDEMANN LOLOL We already talked about this. Credits are for lawyers, not musicians. Very telling that you don't know the difference. Yes, Brian didn't complain. He had more class than you ever will.
Brian told the music trade papers that Eric Burdon was the greatest lead singer in all of England and I think Mick hated that idea-maybe Eric and Brian were gonna do some together -you know they all felt bad about what they did to Brian
@@HARALDEMANN No I'm not. They would still be back in art school/Studying econ 101 if Brian had. not formed the band. Ive seen the Stones more times than you can count.
@ Wrong. They already had their own band without him. Andrew Oldham was the crucial factor. This is not to take Brian’s talents away. But you obviously have to take Jagger/Richards’ talents away to get your point through. Pathetic.
You’ve clearly never listened to Little Red Rooster in your life. 😂 And you know nothing about 60s Stones, Brian and Mick were the ones people cared about. Keep being clueless.
Those who actually knew Brian will tell you Brian was his own worst enemy. You cannot under estimate his contribution, however Andrew was the key pushing for original material to propel the band into the pop charts to rival the Beatles.
@ Well, not sure who you're talking about. I have spoken to Keith, Gered Mankowitz and Michael Lyndsay-Hogg about Brian and it's never been "nuanced." Brian had a nasty side that some described as "cruel." Most have told me the same things that he was responsible for his own downfall. Keith said Brian wanted to be the main focus, but was not a born extrovert like Mick, nor was he the main (focal point) lead singer. I have nothing but respect for his capabilities as a musician and the magic he added. I don't join the "poor Brian" crowd though.
@@marcbolan1818 Ehh Keith is pretty critical of everyone, including Mick and they’re very close. You have to take that into account. The others you mentioned were not close friends.
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Bo Diddley said, Brian was a little dude that was trying to pull the group ahead. I saw him as the leader. He didn't take no mess. He was a fantastic cat; he handled the group beautifully.
Bill Wyman said, do say, and do honestly believe, that if there wasn't a Brian Jones there wouldn't have been a Rolling Stones. He named the band, and he enlisted the members one by one.
Jimmy Page (talking about the making of the A Degree of Murder soundtrack)
Brian knew what he was doing. It was quite beautiful. Some of it was made up at the time; some of it was stuff I was augmenting with him. I was definitely playing with the violin bow. Brian had this guitar that had a volume pedal-he could get gunshots with it. There was a Mellotron there. He was moving forward with ideas
Paul Jones said, Brian was such an ambitious young man, so determined, long before the Stones ever were.
George Harrison said, When I met him I liked him quite a lot. He was a good fellow, you know. I got to know him very well, I think, and I felt very close to him; you know how it is with some people, you feel for them, feel near them.
Dave Davies said, I’m not putting down anyone else in the Stones, but Brian was the true artist in that band. Sometimes he was into the whole rock’n’roll thing, but other times he just wouldn’t play the game.
Alexis Korner visited Brian in late June 1969 and noted that "Jones was happier than he had ever been" and Brian had demoed a few of his own songs in the weeks before his death.
Brian Jones was the original Rolling Stone 🎸👏 That stays in history of this Band forever ❤His Band!
Don't forget Ian Stewart !!
@@daveoz6127 This video is about Brian Jones not Ian Stewart.
@SuperAnimelover100 it's funny...was Brian there, on the train platform? No? Ok then...
@@JimmyChap69 I suggest you do a great deal more research.
They were never the same after Brian died. He was the icing on the cake
Brian was always pushing the boundaries with sound and different instruments, and came up with the parts he played
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I like many of the Stones records from throughout their extraordinary career, but I do find their ‘Brian era’ material to be more musically interesting than their post Brian recordings.
When the Stones evolved away from pretty straight R&B Jones developed this fantastic gift for musical embellishment, embroidery, on unusual instruments, which lift songs into another dimension- the otherworldly, eerie mellotron on 2000 Light Years From Home makes the song, no less. Jones craved fame and adulation yet wasn’t psychologically suited to being a star, and self-medicated the pressures and stresses to the point where he was barely functioning as a musician. It’s pretty obvious that he could be a monumental pain in the a**, but the innovative 60s Stones, the band snapping at the Beatles’ heels, did not long survive his loss, and morphed pretty quickly into a much more one-dimensional rackinrowl outfit. They were, and still are, the less without him.
There was the BJ era and then the MT era - separate incarnations really. Both great bands.
And the RW era.
Littke Red Roister was a daring choice
Yes, The Rolling Stones have a very rich 62 + year history, but I feel strongly that Brian Jones was a key contributor to their beginnings and the first era of the band. He played several different instruments in the band and his playing of all those instruments was prominent in their sound as a band. Yes, they went on to record several big hits and many great albums after Brian, but they needed him to establish the foundation. My verdict: No Jones, no Stones!
You are forgetting who wrote the songs that made them legends…
Playing an instr is something completely different than actually writing songs. Zappa composed on a piano til he got a Synclavier. But he could not actually play piano. When he finished something he called Ian Underwood to play it.
One thing is to see Jagger/Richard as credited songwriters..another thing is the real contribution of the musicians on every song ...a lot of uncredited sources on the stones compositions through the years..
@ This is were people just don’t get it: There is a difference between writing a song and being part of a band arranging it. True, Brian came up with a lot of stuff, but as a part of the song’s arrangement. The initial composition was never his.
@@HARALDEMANN LOLOL You seem to think arrangement isn’t all that important, which tells me you lack that skill yourself. Jog on, troll. 😂
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Brian Jones was the icing on the cake never been the same since then apparently too much tower and one room together
No Stones - without Brian Jones ! (old one )
Awesome video have a great day also I have a cold ❤😥🤧👃
Bless you I hope you’re feeling better now, take care of yourself from Stevie boy in England.
Nietzsche wrote "In action there is power". Napoleon said "Audacity is the most important trait for a general." Brian took action--he conceptualized the idea of a blues-based two-guitar band who played hard-driving songs. He ran the ads seeking members for his idea for a band. He was audacious and he took action. Neither Mick or Keith would have done this.
The band already existed when Brian joined them. Keith and Mick made the music from the beginning on up to now.
@@NoCats-on-Guitars Incorrect. Brian was the founder, he recruited all of the members.
@@TheaterPup No, he joined the Band of Mick, Keith and Dick Taylor that already existed. Dick Taylor left the group and was replaced by Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts was introduced by Ian Stewart. Brian did not found the group or recruite the members, except Bill Wyman, who was a friend of Brian.
@@NoCats-on-Guitars Once again, incorrect.
@@TheaterPup Once again, you are wrong. All is documented and easy to verify.
Brian created the Rolling Stones in the beginning. He chose the music. He chose the name. He was the leader. He signed all the recording contracts, the management contracts, all kinds of things. He would pick up an autoharp or a flute or a glockenspiel or marimbas, and he would be able to do all of that kind of stuff.” Among the other instruments Jones played were the harmonica, sitar, organ, recorder, cello, trumpet, trombone, saxophone, oboe, and, of course, guitar. He made so many records successful because of that. Jones was in fact, the original public face of the band: the surliest and sauciest in press interviews, the most nattily dressed, the most lushly coiffed… and, most importantly, the most musically diverse. “I mean, he was brilliant musically in the early days.
No he didn't? It was Andrew loog Oldham and Mick Jagger, as soon as sighed Brian was insignificant,like Bowie said Brian looked short old and fat with terrible hair
Brian did NOT create the Roing Stones
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Bullshit
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Brian created the Stones
@@dondamon4669Um Bowie was not talking about Brian Jones, genius. 😂 And even Andrew said Brian would often be in charge of the whole record. You are clueless.
Jagger and Richards gave always been the stones
Only to casuals.
He was great but you cannot honestly believe that Mick Jagger didn't have any impact when Brian was around. Mick Jagger was the star from the beginning. The stones were lucky to have Jagger as a front man. Brian gifted musician, magnetic and romantic personality but that was all.
Without Brian in the early days the Stones never would have happened. Also Charlie and Bill were the driving force of the Band they were the rhythm section
Kinda wild how different Mick and Keith are from one another
The Stones thrived when he was there and after.
Thanks to the foundation he built.
The Greatest Rock Band of all time 👅💯
Did Mick Jagger make this video? The stones are a Jagger-Richards band.
Yeah, Brian was integral in their success, but he was taking too many substances, missed gigs and didn't like the harder songs and sounds as rock and roll got heavier and became rock.
The next three albums after he left are incredible and considered their best.
There is no indication he didn't like their harder songs. And even in the 70s Mick lamented they didn't have Brian's way with instruments. And most people consider the 60s era songs to be their best.
No one was doing that slide , that Bo Diddly did 8 years earlier,, ahem ,, it usually always starts in the states, when it comes to music at the begining of the 20th century
The Rolling Stones grew out of the group with Brian Jones (originally six musicians) into the group without him. That is a fact. The rest is factual or fictional opinion. They grew out of Blues, R&B, Black Rock 'n Roll and early Soul into American Roots Music based Rock.
From interpretations of Black Music into performers of Roots Music based original material. And sometimes Pop (even by their Satanic Majesties - the Beatles - inspired ugly Pop - their real Satanic Majesty by the way was Andrew Oldham).
Original Rock 'n Roll is American (based on Blues and Country). Rock mainly started in the UK. And was soon turned into an early form of Hard Rock (still based on Blues and R&B) by among others Led Zeppelin.
No Jones, No Early Stones.And be honest: Brian Jones could play a lot of instruments - from well to a little. He could not play one of them brilliantly (like Mick Taylor the guitar).
His slide guitar ? Listen to the original "Little Red Rooster" or to Kokomo Arnold as Gitfiddle Jim in "Paddlin' Madeline Blues". His harmonica ? Listen to Little Walter, or Walter Horton. His sitar ? Listen to Ravi Shankar in those days. And saxophone ? He was certainly no Charlie Parker.
One of my favorite Stones songs is "No Expectations". The demo, the recording, the live version. Brian Jones could hardly play the guitar anymore. Only a little - simple, but very effective - slide guitar. It was his last significant contribution to the music of the Rolling Stones. I cherish that song.
I've seen them four times. First time was at Rich Stadium in Buffalo.... 1981... Journey and George Thorogood warmed up. Journey got booed off the stage!! 🤣
Having grown up in the sixties, that period of The Rolling Stones' career is the one that will always stick with me as their heyday. And of course, Brian Jones contributed GREATLY to the sound of their records. Too bad he was such a creep personally.
Too bad you had to end your decent comment with gossipy nonsense. As if the rest of the band were choir boys.
@@TheaterPup Nonsense? Compared to Brian Jones, the rest of The Rolling Stones were "choir boys".
@@Slotnikoff LOLOL No. I swear, it's like half the fandom doesn't know they're talking about the Rolling Stones at all, lolol.
The last year Brian was with the Stones he really wasn't all there and that is why he was kicked out.
Drug use and its consequences destroyed a very talented musician.
Who knows how the Stones music would have progressed forward?
They haven’t done too bad without Brian, but I personally think they’d have made even more of an impact with Brian(R.I.P.)
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Bill was the only one to tell the truth about Brian, he respected him and knew full well had it not been for Brian there wouldn’t have been no stones, and it’s true. The same can be said of John Lennon, No
Lennon No Beatles. No Jones, No Stones. Unfortunately the drugs and alcohol didn’t agree with Brian.
Jones was an excellent musician and without question was the reason the Stones got their start, however he wasn't a special talent. His biggest contribution to the band was finding Jagger and Richards. They were the special talent that really catapulted the group. He could play unique instruments (I think Mick Taylor was a far better guitarist) but didn't write music and success and the lifestyle from it got the better of him. He would have been wise to just be happy that Jagger and Richards were carrying the band forward instead of being jealous. Their music with Mick Taylor and even Ronny Wood defined the Stones to me much more.
All the Stones are special talents. And you know nothing about 60s Stones. Brian was their arranger. Btw I’d never want to be in a band with you. 🙄 Btw, it’s spelled Ronnie, “fan.”
@@TheaterPup Sorry I hurt your feelings. I don't think Brian was bad but I really think that the would have been a band that would have been remembered as a a groovy sixties band that covered the blues, Buddy Holly, (like everyone else )had they not had Jagger and Richards move them into their own. Thanks for the spelling correction on Ronnie. That certainly matters a lot.
@@sloppyjoe6243 And again, you clearly aren't familiar with 60s Stones. Ian Stewart was the Blues purist. Brian Jones was the one who provided unusual instruments and sounds.
The Stones didn't really find their footing until Beggars Banquet. They had great songs and a large following before that but didn't become The Stones as we know them until after 68'
Who is we?
@TheaterPup I guess you didn't come to that conclusion. There is something called the golden age or period when Mick Taylor was part of the band.
@@kabiam You're entitled to your opinion.
Brian had his demons, but he didn't deserve to be throw out of his band, yes he wasn't in charge like he once was, but to get rid of him the way they did is horrible. Mick, Keith and their manager is what caused all this, same thing with the Rolling Stones piano player. Oh you didn't know they had a piano player? Ian Stewart who was the first one who answered Brian's ad for musicians in a Music Newspaper, The Music Express? Not Mick & Keith. But when Andrew Loog Oldham became their manager Stu was out of the line -up on stage and all other Promos. Still a Stone technically in the studio and relegated to tour manager he stayed like this till his death in the mid '80s while waiting in a doctor's office for a physical. But before this happened he was out of the studio by keyboardist Nicky Hopkins no fault of Nicky. Nicky was the greatest keyboardist to come out of England, Hammond B3 Organ but especially on piano(and were TALKIN' A PIANO, not an electric one)who got his start with Arthur Brown to the original Jeff Beck Group to the Stones. But Jones got fucked in the ass by the Glitter Twins and management before he even felt it. The Rolling Stones will always be Brian Jones' Band, and at least Mick can't handle that and Keith, all he did was steal Brian's girlfriend Anita? As he sees it. I saw them once in Worcester, Massachusetts at the Comic Store in 1966, the original band, Me and my sister were lucky to see them being our ages of 13 & 15. But after Brian died and the way you heard how Mick & Keith, especially Mick talked down about him, WTF!!! At the Hyde Park concert to introduce Brian's replacement Mick Taylor a fantastic guitarist(and several years down the road he left fed up with the bullshit in this band) just days after Brian died they did this big gig at Hyde Park in London with Jagger reading a poem by Shelley for Brian, BULLSHIT! That was it for me and I never saw them again and had plenty of offers and offers with good seats but no, no thank you. I met Bill Wyman at his Restaurant 'Sticky Fingers' in the Kensington section of London in 1990 and I asked him point blank what happened. Why didn't you and Charlie Watts back up Brian? He looked at me and said there's not a day that goes by that I don't think that, and Charlie would tell you the same. And then he stopped talking about Brian. He was showing me around the restaurant with all the Rolling Stones memorabilia on the walls, including Brian's white tear drop shaped VOX Guitar in a beautiful wall case in the middle of the restaurant in a place of honor. Brian's Band Indeed.....R.I.P. Brian 🙏 "A rolling stone gathers no moss", something to think about, food for thought.
At least Mick, Keith and Charlie came to Brian and told him personally he couldn't stay in the band, unlike the Beatles who let their manager do the dirty work when they got Pete Best out of the group. They also would've given Brian 100,000 ponds a year for life if he hadn't died soon after. They also let him spin his leaving any way he wanted.
@@searchthewind99 lol you're too funny nice try though! the truth is Mick, Keith and Charlie went to see Brian at Cotchford Fard on June 8th 1969 to ask Brian what he wanted to do and offered him a settlement if he wanted to leave the band plus in 71 when the stones sued Klein they had Brian's father alongt,hey woul'd have had Brian's father along if Brian didn't own the rights to the name of the band.
@@KevinRandall-w3t I got my info from a Stones biography. I appreciate your input. There's always something new to learn.
Brian was detrimental to them and bill Wyman should respect people that made him rich and a life! Jones never wrote one song! Its as simple as that, he never wrote a song
He never got credit for writing a song. But a lot of songs like Under My Thumb and Paint It Black would have sounded different without his contribution. Brian helped the Byrds create Eight Miles High. They wanted to give him writing credit, but he was so used to not receiving one that he told them to forget it.
Wrong yet again. Brian co wrote Ruby Tuesday. And he was their arranger. And you know nothing of respect. Get lost already. 😂
As he mentioned himself he was not successful until he met Keith and mick
It's called having humility. They weren't successful until they joined his band.
@@TheaterPup Is ‘humility’ also to father six kids and take no resposibility, to hit and hurt prositutes and girlfriends as well? Is so, then yes. You are right.
@@HARALDEMANN LOLOL You're unable to discuss music so you rush to TMZ gossip. You're pathetic. And as a woman, you are the very last person I'd want defending me.
@@HARALDEMANN That has totally nothing to do with the video, you are only slipping it in to rake a shot at Brian .
Astrology rules! The "in" crowd...jagger, richards, watts and wood...were fire and air
the "out" stones...wyman, jones, mick taylor...were water and earth...they were sidelined notwithstanding their contributions
So sad what Andrew did to Brian who was and is the Stones he is so important, talented and a genius Bill says he was the most talented musician in the group. Then Brian got pushed out he was unable to be himself, stronger mick and Keith took over and to me when Brian was murdered they began to disagree and fight but Kieth was not frightened of mick as there was only one to disagree with and not three of them. No Brian no Stones.
Exactly !
Brian pushed out himself, he stopped playing and recording with the band.
@@NoCats-on-Guitars Because he felt pushed out in the first place.
@@TheaterPup You think you know how he felt? So you knew him personally I guess.....I think the reason was, that he was not the leader he always wanted to be and that's what he experienced more and more. He couldn't write the songs, he could not sing, he was not as good as Keith as musician, Mick now played the harp better than Brian ever did.....but that was not the fault of the others, that he didn't develop as musician.
"no Brian, no Stones!"😅😅😅 the immortal words of a complete tard. 😅😅😅he died in 1969!!! - a woman-beating psycho!😅😅😅
Could resume in 3 minutes....
Brian had cool guitars , what happened to them
I think a lot vanished
No Brian Jones know Brian jonestown massacre
I get that Brian became an obstacle to getting things done in the band because his addiction had gotten out of hand, but the way the other Stones treated him could have been handled better. Keith had a full blown heroin addiction but was never pushed out of the band. I guess because he was one of the main song writers in the band , it was a little different than Brian, because Brian wasn’t a real song writer. But when it came to the mechanics of how a song was developed, Brian’s mastery of a number of instruments, was extremely important. Although, by 1969 he was so wasted and depressed, apparently, he couldn’t be counted on for that.
Again, I understand why he was fired but I think it could have been done in a more kinder manner.
There’s always this question remaining, was Brian really that important to the Rolling Stones, and I think he absolutely was. If he wasn’t in the picture when the Stones started out, I don’t think the Stones would have made it.
Ich kann Mick Jagger sehr gut verstehen...er ist schon von seinen Naturell her sehr verantwortungsbewusst...daher war es gut, das er die Führung übernahm...der Erfolg gibt ihm recht ...er konnte das vorzüglich...auch sein sogenannter "Kontrollzwang" war wichtig, es hat zu einem großen Erfolg der Band beigetragen...man kann hier alles gut nachvollziehen...
Wünsche für die weitere Zukunft weiter viel Erfolg...
🎵🎼🎶✌️🍀🍀🍀🔥⚡🎉.......🌻.......
Mick and Keith are noted for Ripping people off .Bill Wyman has said that he came up with the Jumping Jack Flash song's distinctive main guitar riff on a piano without being credited for it. It's said Mick Taylor co wrote several songs such as , Moonlight mile , Winter and so on but got no credit. Brian Jones.
Marianne Faithful said, Ruby Tuesday the development of the song became a joint effort between Brian and Keith but Brian Jones got no credit !!! Charlie Watts guiltily admitted, We took Brian's one thing away, which was being in a a band.
Finally saying the truth Sandy! THANKS 👍
They wacked Brian because he owned the Rolling Stones name and they wanted it.
He didn't "own" the name.
Brian Jones was the Rolling Stones without doubt the best musician in the band and to be honest Mick and Keith were limited amateurs, Bill and Charlie were good musicians who carried the band, Brian was betrayed due to his personality and Andrew Oldham had a lot to do with this and in the end he was himself stabbed in the back,Keith is a very limited guitarist and both he and Mick were not really working musicians as were the Beatles for instance who had been working for years before becoming famous.Bill and Charlie were real musicians who had paid their dues.
That Keith and Mick were ‘limited’ on their instruments, didn’t held them back from doing what made the band: The songs. Without Mick and Keith’s talent for writing, they had ended up being a blues-combo playing round the clubs. Brian had talent for playing. So did Bill and Charlie. But Keith and Mick had the biggest talents for writing, and that’s what made them the superstars they became.
You take that sitar 🎶 part out of Paint it Blk. That Brian Wrote on the spot! Or the marimba part out of Under My Thumb! Or the Flute out of Ruby Tuesday! Those Songs are not nearly as good. & He received no credit or Publishing💲& They all wonder why he just got high & said F-it!
Bill Wyman looks like a Gibb brother
Yes, it took me awhile to recognize him
Informative video but very repetitive.
NO JONES...NO STONES !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are forgetting who wrote the songs that made them legends…
@@HARALDEMANN You are forgetting how vital arrangement is. Take your ignorance to someone who cares. 😂
@ Arrangement is very important. However, an arrangement can’t be done without initial composition of a song. And with The Stones, the credits on the back of the albums always stated: Songs by Mick Jagger / Keith Richards. Arrangements by The Rolling Stones. If in doubt, then read the credits on the albums. They are very clearly stating that it’s the band arranging the songs. The only people who disagrees, are those who are butthurt over Brian Jones’ name isn’t plastered all over the credits. Brian himself did not once complain over credits in his lifetime. Not in one single interview. It’s his worshippers who are out to seek justice on his behalf, who are complaining.
@@HARALDEMANN LOLOL We already talked about this. Credits are for lawyers, not musicians. Very telling that you don't know the difference. Yes, Brian didn't complain. He had more class than you ever will.
Brian told the music trade papers that Eric Burdon was the greatest lead singer in all of England and I think Mick hated that idea-maybe Eric and Brian were gonna do some together -you know they all felt bad about what they did to Brian
Brian Jones was the Stones. Never been the same since. Never as good. Yes great work but not the same as when Brian was driving the band.
You are forgetting who wrote the songs that made them legends…
@@HARALDEMANN No I'm not. They would still be back in art school/Studying econ 101 if Brian had. not formed the band. Ive seen the Stones more times than you can count.
@ Wrong. They already had their own band without him. Andrew Oldham was the crucial factor. This is not to take Brian’s talents away. But you obviously have to take Jagger/Richards’ talents away to get your point through. Pathetic.
@@HARALDEMANN No I just don't think so. Your'e most likely too young to have been around to see all the Stones incarnations. I did. Nuff said.
@ Doesn’t give one any more right to hold the truth or the facts. In fact, having been around then, can distort the facts.
How did the slide make little red roster 😂 it's mick jagger who people cared about than!
Well it clearly does lol. Be boring af without it
You’ve clearly never listened to Little Red Rooster in your life. 😂 And you know nothing about 60s Stones, Brian and Mick were the ones people cared about. Keep being clueless.
Those who actually knew Brian will tell you Brian was his own worst enemy. You cannot under estimate his contribution, however Andrew was the key pushing for original material to propel the band into the pop charts to rival the Beatles.
Those who actually knew Brian give far more nuanced descriptions of him than that. And it was Brian who arranged said original material.
@ Well, not sure who you're talking about. I have spoken to Keith, Gered Mankowitz and Michael Lyndsay-Hogg about Brian and it's never been "nuanced." Brian had a nasty side that some described as "cruel." Most have told me the same things that he was responsible for his own downfall. Keith said Brian wanted to be the main focus, but was not a born extrovert like Mick, nor was he the main (focal point) lead singer. I have nothing but respect for his capabilities as a musician and the magic he added. I don't join the "poor Brian" crowd though.
@@marcbolan1818 Ehh Keith is pretty critical of everyone, including Mick and they’re very close. You have to take that into account. The others you mentioned were not close friends.
@ Gered was close to Brian all the way to the last week. He mirrors what everyone says.
@@marcbolan1818 Lol, it's quite obvious you haven't a clue what "everyone" says.
First!
Keith and Mick
It was stu's band
No.
Stu didn't even know what Chicago Blues was in '62-He only knew about "Jump-Blues " like Louis Jordan.
I think Bill Wyman ate paint chips as a child
Talking about yourself again?
If that's what it takes to play bass like that, well,,,,,,,
I would not put it past m.jagger,or k.richards,to have done something to b.jones!
That’s nonsense.
@@abdelrahmanalangari1754 yes they sacked him . 👍