'This ANGERS me!' Why does Santi Gimenez struggle with Mexico but shines with Feyenoord? | ESPN FC

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2023
  • Futbol Americas' Sebi Salazar and Herc Gomez discuss Santi Gimenez' astonishing form for Feyenoord but debate why he's unable to transform that record for the Mexican national team.
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  • @JackDivision
    @JackDivision 9 месяцев назад +112

    The whole team is revolving around him at Feyenoord. They plan all movements without ball in training and finetune every match. Gimenez is a machine.

    • @Boggabogga
      @Boggabogga 9 месяцев назад +10

      Fr in Mexico he’s not the main target he’s got 2 other players that are supposedly in better form🤦‍♂️

    • @Unknown_source44
      @Unknown_source44 9 месяцев назад +19

      Feyenoord have paixao this season and had kokcu last season. Mexico has a speed merchant on the right and a greedy inside forward on the left 😂

    • @Chi3fsTA
      @Chi3fsTA 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Unknown_source44did you see those fk ups Chuky did in the first few minutes of the Germany game 🤦🏻‍♂️ he’s so fkn greedy

    • @theacehavin7918
      @theacehavin7918 9 месяцев назад

      Meanwhile in Mexico he got greedy fucks like Chucky that only play for themselves

    • @IL7319
      @IL7319 9 месяцев назад +2

      Feyenoord doesn't revolve around him, but their wingers and midfielders know how to attack and how to pass the ball. When they beat Shaktar 7-1, Gimenez only scored once. In Mexico with midfielders like Romo or Herrera, Gimenes never gets the ball in the box. Antuna and Lozano dont know how to pass the ball, it is a shame.

  • @williamson5407
    @williamson5407 9 месяцев назад +50

    But didnt he win Copa Oro for Mx???

  • @mecha_korta2761
    @mecha_korta2761 9 месяцев назад +49

    Quiñones, Henry Martín, Raúl Jiménez, they all belong to the Televisa family, and Santiago knows they'll get more leeway than him as well as the preference. Raúl Jiménez has what... 19-20 months without scoring in an official game in his league? Imagine if he had scored at least "one" goal during that time, he'd be the undisputed starter Lol. Santiago wasn't called up to the World Cup for scoring too much in very few minutes at Feyenoord Lol; not enough playing minutes and still found a way to improve. Televisa took an injured Raúl and left Santi out of Qatar, enough said.

  • @Vance-Stronghold
    @Vance-Stronghold 9 месяцев назад +74

    He actually played a pretty decent game vs Germany him not scoring is no biggie right now

    • @Ultima-Signa
      @Ultima-Signa 9 месяцев назад +1

      He had a disgusting dive in the penalty box in that game… I wouldn’t call that decent.

    • @TheNickKerr
      @TheNickKerr 9 месяцев назад +1

      Dude missed a tap in, I’m Mexican and I was expecting him to score, if he would have scored that tap it, We would have won, so nah he has a bad game, dude missed his most important shot

    • @CarlosRuiz-gg5wn
      @CarlosRuiz-gg5wn 9 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@TheNickKerrgrow your ball knowledge before you talk

    • @user-oh8jo2qh8m
      @user-oh8jo2qh8m 9 месяцев назад

      Ur right he didnt do bad

    • @glowyplayz8140
      @glowyplayz8140 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@TheNickKerrthe goal wouldn’t have counted anyways he was offside. No ball knowledge

  • @jorgecuevas5029
    @jorgecuevas5029 9 месяцев назад +22

    Santi already gave mexico a gold cup. Santi won mexico aa official tournament. Imo who cares if he dont score on friendlies lol im sure once he gets going on scoring he wont stop doing so club or national team

  • @JoseMendoza-qu7tn
    @JoseMendoza-qu7tn 9 месяцев назад +51

    Mexico can’t get the ball to their forwards it was Raul Jimenez before, now it’s Santi. Funes Mori never stood a chance. Henry is in the mix too. Chicharito worked because he was a poacher and a 1-2 touch player. Mexico cannot make it work it’s a fact.

    • @IL7319
      @IL7319 9 месяцев назад +4

      The main reason Chicharito worked was because Mexico had Herrera and Guardado in their best form as box to box midfielders,. Any striker during those years scored, remember Oribe Peralta was a scoring machine as well. When you play with 3 midfielders, the 8 and the 10 need to be truly box to box midfielders. The Guardado and Herrera from 2012 to 2016 were the best Mexico has had in the last 15 years.

  • @cj8269
    @cj8269 9 месяцев назад +13

    Better coach better teammates

  • @MDE1992
    @MDE1992 9 месяцев назад +6

    Feyenoord is an oiled machine, cause of Arne Slot being a tactical genius. Van Persie is a great striker coach who trains Gimenez to fit exactly in this Feyenoord team.

  • @JonathanRodriguez-hm7jp
    @JonathanRodriguez-hm7jp 9 месяцев назад +6

    Well for one he only starts half the time. How is he supposed to build any chemistry with his teammates when they got raul or Henry trading starts with him.

  • @TFG_E96
    @TFG_E96 9 месяцев назад +1

    i believe that Santi is more comfortable with his Club more than the International team... the chemistry is different when they all come together they all have different techniques and play styles...Santi has a good chance to nake a name of his name with or without the international team

  • @robster8030
    @robster8030 9 месяцев назад +4

    Santi needs confidence to really shine like he does at Feyenoord. That is basically it

    • @deezm4743
      @deezm4743 9 месяцев назад +2

      Mexico need someone who can assist him

    • @ulisesreyes6023
      @ulisesreyes6023 9 месяцев назад

      Mexico just needs changes with the federation

  • @Erik-Met-De-Dashcam
    @Erik-Met-De-Dashcam 9 месяцев назад +1

    Vamos Santi ❤🤍

  • @TINMAN-jm9sw
    @TINMAN-jm9sw 9 месяцев назад

    It’s step by step, he’ll get there with the national team, he’s on the right track.

  • @cesaravila4053
    @cesaravila4053 9 месяцев назад

    He scored the winning goal that gave Mex the gold cup in the final. 😊

  • @rankobarensic
    @rankobarensic 9 месяцев назад

    You won the Gold Cup because of him❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @purplesky4157
    @purplesky4157 9 месяцев назад +1

    It’s the midfield. Mexico doesn’t have players like feeyenord in the midfield. He also doesn’t play as much in Mexico he’s not even a starter.

  • @yungboibutter2230
    @yungboibutter2230 9 месяцев назад +1

    Different players, different system, he’s only had 3-4 starts since joining Feyenoord and simply he hasn’t had the opportunities. Yes he had struggled with some shots and some penalty’s but the more he starts the more goals his skill will show.

  • @SixxCabrera
    @SixxCabrera 6 месяцев назад

    People are just questioning the defense in the Netherlands cause it’s a Mexican player I bet if he would of choose his Argentina nationality no one would be questioning the defense

  • @jesuscalderon2601
    @jesuscalderon2601 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bro he hasn’t played all 4 to be like ohh he has every chance to score bro it’s 4 games but two off the bench and coming out the game in 70th minute like no one in Mexico talking about how Christian pulsic went to the bench in Millán 😂😂 started off good now in the bench like with Chelsea

  • @kiraofthesky5561
    @kiraofthesky5561 9 месяцев назад +3

    The next hugo Sanchez

  • @hamkam1627
    @hamkam1627 9 месяцев назад +6

    He’s playing with Antuna…

    • @suhndoo
      @suhndoo 9 месяцев назад +1

      GOATuna has been our best player these past games

    • @soon390
      @soon390 9 месяцев назад

      Hey don't disrespect ANTUNA 🐐 he was very good against Germany

  • @yerrrmum1830
    @yerrrmum1830 9 месяцев назад

    You can tell the seleccion is playing against Santi like they have a bone to pick with him

  • @pollo3m165
    @pollo3m165 9 месяцев назад

    He won the Gold Cup for them ? 😂 All he needs is confidents and to be starter in all games for México!

  • @Not.Dvniel
    @Not.Dvniel 9 месяцев назад

    Antuna scoring vs Germany better make make him a better player. Make better passes. If he sends good passes to Jimenez he can can take the winger spot without a doubt. Lozano is kinda selfish he wants to score all the goals. We need to play around Jimenez. Hopefully chino can understand that.

  • @edwinvasquez9957
    @edwinvasquez9957 9 месяцев назад

    Mexico still lacks that connection as a team.
    The midfield lacks connection with him, chucky lacks connection with him. I see antuna tries to play him more than chucky. But he’s the starter for sure.

  • @hectorrock9647
    @hectorrock9647 9 месяцев назад

    He scored to get the gold cup.what are you talking about?

  • @MetalRocksMe.
    @MetalRocksMe. 9 месяцев назад +3

    Err different dynamics

  • @gabrielguerrero3404
    @gabrielguerrero3404 9 месяцев назад +2

    Because he’s a poacher and a very good one but he needs good players around him

    • @purplesky4157
      @purplesky4157 9 месяцев назад +8

      Every striker is a poacher. Santi is far from just a poacher though. U gotta watch his games. Has decent pace, can dribble well for a striker, can retain the ball because of his physicality, and has a good shot/header.

  • @raulluna3135
    @raulluna3135 9 месяцев назад

    Santi will score for mexico give home some.time there gonna be time we're he can score alot of goals in mexico

  • @cesarlozano2529
    @cesarlozano2529 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m commenting 10 SENCE da into this video and wow I can’t believe you would ask that. YOU DONT KNOW FUTBOL and systems and quality in teams. THE STYLE OF MEXICOS GAME DOES NOT BENEFIT NOT ONLY SANTI GIMENEZ BUT BRING HALAAND AND EVEN HALAAND WILL STRUGGLE TO SCORE AND ID THIS SIMPLE. SANTI GIMENEZ does not have the type of players surrounding him in (THE MEXICO NATIONAL TEAM) LIKE HE DOES IN FEYENOORD AND THE SYSTEMATIC STYLE OF PLAYING FOR FEYENOORD AND MEXICO IS DIFFERNT THEREFORE THE 9 IN MEXICOS NATIONAL TEAM WILL NEVER BE A KILLER OR BETTERYET A GOLEADOR BECAUSE MEXICO DOES NOT CREATE AS MUCH GOAL CHANCES AND FEYENOORD DOES WHICH IS WHAT HAPPEND WITH {HUGO SANCHEZ PICHICHI IN REAL MADRID} AND IN [MEXICO NATIONAL TEAM WOULD SCORE TO SAVE HIS LIFE]. SAME THING IS HAPPENING WITH { HAALAND IN THE NORWAY FOOTBALL NATIONAL TEAM}
    (HALAND IN MANCHESTER CITY IS THE TOP GOAL SCORER) ITS ALL BECAUSE THE TEAM BUY THE BEST PLAYERS TO GREAT OFFENSIVE SUSTEMS AND SCORE ALOT OF GOALS WHILE NATIONAL TEAMS HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE AND CANNOT ARM A GOAL SCORING MACHINE TEAM SO NATIONAL TEAM 9’S WILL NEVER SCORE IN NATIONAL TEAMS LIKE THEY DO AT THE CLUB TEAMS.
    EXAMPLES:
    1. SHEVCHENKO
    2. HIGO SANCHEZ
    3. HALAAND
    4. ROBERT LEVWANDOSKI

  • @FernandoMartinez-ho3dz
    @FernandoMartinez-ho3dz 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is the same thing with Hugo Sanchez he was legendary in Spain but he largely failed for Mexico. It’s because Mexico is trash when it comes to taking advantage with their real talent and they use players who pay millions to play

  • @jcesarr0321
    @jcesarr0321 9 месяцев назад

    Bc it kinda like how messi was. They dont play for him to score.

    • @stingray10
      @stingray10 8 месяцев назад

      But he finds a way anyway Messi is him

  • @Superglitchym
    @Superglitchym 9 месяцев назад

    Its simple, he doesn’t train with the national team every day 🤯

  • @CRknows
    @CRknows 9 месяцев назад

    Santi should have gone to the World Cup over Alexis Vega

  • @hugojeshuasalgueroperez6044
    @hugojeshuasalgueroperez6044 9 месяцев назад

    Vatos, lleva como 7 partidos y 2 de titular, nmms aguanten tantito jajajaja

  • @jasonburrell4903
    @jasonburrell4903 9 месяцев назад +8

    Maybe because the eredivise is even worse than uber eats league

    • @cj8269
      @cj8269 9 месяцев назад +5

      Its not eredivisie is 5th

    • @jasonburrell4903
      @jasonburrell4903 9 месяцев назад

      @@cj8269 it's not

    • @cj8269
      @cj8269 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@jasonburrell4903 eredivisie is gonna be above uber eats after this season with 3 direct CL places to probably Psv Feyenoord and AZ

    • @edxander7169
      @edxander7169 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@jasonburrell4903eredivise is top 5 kid. The farmers league is not even in the top 5. Do your research

  • @im4real-2
    @im4real-2 9 месяцев назад +12

    Because only the top 4 teams in the eredivisie are good the rest is trash

    • @peterdekker2758
      @peterdekker2758 9 месяцев назад +3

      They just beat lazio Roma in the champions league who scored….twice

    • @tonyponce6196
      @tonyponce6196 9 месяцев назад

      That’s every league tho…

    • @im4real-2
      @im4real-2 9 месяцев назад

      @@tonyponce6196 man United, Brighton Sevilla

    • @im4real-2
      @im4real-2 9 месяцев назад

      @@peterdekker2758 was it in the national team? And Lazio is not good…

  • @luisvilla799
    @luisvilla799 7 месяцев назад

    Because they suck as a team lol

  • @Prnhub_Supremacy
    @Prnhub_Supremacy 9 месяцев назад +12

    Because the Dutch league is trash

    • @peterdekker2758
      @peterdekker2758 9 месяцев назад +7

      😂 😂😂 top 10 Holland eredivisie players for you Cruyff van Basten Gullit bergkamp van persie Seedorf Rijkaard Davids van dijk you want me to go on ????

    • @jasonburrell4903
      @jasonburrell4903 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@peterdekker2758 what does that have to do with the current state of the league 🤣🤣

    • @swapinjr6931
      @swapinjr6931 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@jasonburrell4903it’s a top 5 league lmao

    • @fel1x015
      @fel1x015 9 месяцев назад +4

      it’s a top 5 league

    • @Prnhub_Supremacy
      @Prnhub_Supremacy 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@fel1x015 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The Portuguese league is alot better than the Dutch league

  • @ChrisRD526
    @ChrisRD526 9 месяцев назад +7

    Because Santi is from Argentina and not from Mexico!

    • @ebertecpa8723
      @ebertecpa8723 9 месяцев назад +26

      Yet he rejected Argentina twice, he’s been living in Mexico since he was a toddler only logical that he feels more Mexican.

    • @shannonballspen1s482
      @shannonballspen1s482 9 месяцев назад +17

      This guy probably lives in the US and swears hes American. Even though hes probably from Guatemala.

    • @kakaroto7578
      @kakaroto7578 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ebertecpa8723 so false, he was called for under 20 and 23 team, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER KIDS there are several better argentinian strikers than him, he would never make to absolut Argentina team

    • @TheNickKerr
      @TheNickKerr 9 месяцев назад +6

      His family didn’t want to raise a kid without food 🤣🤣😂😂😂
      So they came to Mexico and raised Santi here so he can actually go to training with a full stomach 😭😭😂😂

    • @TheNickKerr
      @TheNickKerr 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ur name is Chris 😭😭

  • @j.g5934
    @j.g5934 9 месяцев назад

    [ Lozano - Santi - Huerta ] up front no doubt. 2 laterales that are fast and agile. With a goal hungry stricker!