Kevin Durant will 'move forward' and stay put after meeting with Nets ownership | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Breaking: after a unique offseason, Kevin Durant has decided to 'move forward' with the Brooklyn Nets. He met with head coach Steve Nash, GM Sean Marks, business manager Rich Kleiman and owners Joe and Clara Wu Tsai in Los Angeles to discuss his return. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react to the news.
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I give it up yo kyri for not getting vacd being pressured career in jeopardy people coming for his character and having the courage to say no I don't trust this now that's brave
Skip finally predicted right
Y'all need to stop tryna force players to stay and play sum where they don't want to.. where this same energy wen it comes to them same players being trade
Because the vax screws up your immune system per reports....That is why many are skeptical.
Also, the vax was not in his contract so he is NOT obligated to do ANYTHING for the team which is not contractual. That is why you put everything you want X person to do in a contract.
@@kcopeCope huh
"When emotions are high logic is low” 💎🔥🔥🔥
The Nets front office doesn't know how to put a team together. 3/4 all-stars, a coach who's never coached a professional game at ANY level previously in his entire life, all hardly making a dent in the regular season. Don't blame KD for looking to maximise the last 4 years of his playing career after investing in the Nets already. He is allowed to choose if he has a choice. Everyone butthurt coz they feel betrayed. Yet owners can pick up the phone and move players entire lives and families across the country in an instant with a trade. Sorry that's double standards.
That is a pathetic excuse for getting swept in the first round.
KD doesn’t really want to stay in bk he just doesn’t have a choice, thats toxic lockeroom energy right there
He lost his 'choice' when he chose to sign a 4 year extension and not become a Free Agent. Reality has finally set in.
@@ShutThePuck ur delusional if u think signing a extension lost him his rights to ask for a trade. lol nobody told BK to offer him and second y’all act like he didn’t suffer a career ending injury and it’s not even 3 years yet ppl expecting him to win the title his first year 😂😂🤷🏾♂️
Facts tho…super toxic.
@@charliemack8585 He expected that and wants out bc he now knows how bad this team rlly is
This team hasn't been whole since 2020 playoffs I wanna see them all balling and haven't something to proove!
Imagine paying two players each $30-$50 million a year, blowing up your roster to trade and sign players they wanted, and hiring staff they approved of just for them to miss over 50 percent of their games and ask to be traded 😂.
And add being a media circus all year only to get swept lol
Imagine if that never happened lol?
KD's staff was let go
KD's coach wasn't hired (Lue)
KD's guys were traded (Jordan among others).
I am not even a nets fan, but you outsiders gotta stop repeating these false narrative that has been disproved by actual people close to the situation.
Stop copying and pasting what the media tells you.
The media said Kyrie and KD are breaking up, but here we are.....
@@monsutaman1 Nets got Kyrie because KD wanted him. Then they traded all their young players to get Harden to please KD. And Nash and D’Antoni don’t get hired unless KD approves of it. Y’all need to start holding these players accountable. Nets gave KD everything he asked for but as soon as they didn’t want to re-sign Kyrie, for obvious reasons, he gave up on the franchise. He even stood up for Nash and staff when they got swept by the Celtics but now he wants them fired? KD just can’t handle criticism so he’s looking for people to throw under the bus like he did in OKC.
Jarret Allen trade hurt the most!
@@stephenb5771 He is a legit big man. Harden kind of forced himself there though which had nothing to do with Durant. The fact he wants Steve Nash fired proves that he never wanted him in the first place like the arm chair GMs assume. Durant did not approve any of this stuff, which is which is why he wants out. Kyrie would have played the 2021 season if Durant got everything he wanted come on, use your heads people.
Meeting summary:
KD: I want out, now!
Ownership: No
KD: come on.
Ownership: ...
KD: F@!K man. Alright man let's try this again.
Ownership: That's what we thought. See you at training camp, Kevin.
Kyrie: I plan on working with Ownership in decisionmaking
Ownership: Not so fast. We're prepared to lose you and KD
KD: I want out, now!
Ownership: We will work with you
Realizes they are asking for to much knowing everyone knows KD wants out.
Ownership: Maybe we can give it a try next yr 🤔
KD: it's me or them
Ownership: Takes Kyrie off of trade market, adds pieces to the team...meets with KD again with Owners, GM and coach.
KD: That's better...let's get to work
I fixed it for you
😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-ix6ki1ng7j hi KD. 🙂
@@user-ix6ki1ng7j 😆
“It’s me or them”
-you’re under contract. Sit the F down.
“Maybe Kyrie has learned a lesson here”
LMAO 🤣 😂🤣!!! That’s a good one, Skip! Best joke of the day!
Kyrie’s eccentric. No lessons will be learned on his part. One heck of a ball player when 100% committed to basketball.
Hard to learn life lessons when you make guaranteed money.
kyrie is poison
@@pas69tie Kyrie’s eccentric. Can’t get around that. Heck of a ball player when he’s locked into basketball. I’m happy he’s still a Net.
What lesson is there to be learned? Y’all a bunch of clowns lmao
So we talked ab him potentially moving ALL SUMMER just for him to stay put… who coulda saw that coming 😒
Ikr i didnt see it coming 😏
Right?! Not like Skip been saying this since day one or anything….
@@Jon155mt as usual no credit to Skip
everyone saw this coming
@@coachvaly Ik I was being sarcastic
IMAGINE trying to get a Divorce and the judge says "Nope, you gotta deal with her" 🤣🤣🤣 thats exactly what this is
Imagine signing a contract to do a job and immediately saying no you don't want to do the job.
Nah lol, more like he had a kid with an annoying baby momma and is trying to abandon both
Nah ownership wants to keep him, they over demanded to never secure a trade.
@@kevinp665 good point 💯 i guess baby Momma wasnt tryna leave the crib 🤣
@@retrosuperfuture5348 there's no literal agreement with that tho hence my point. I get ya point tho lol
The worst thing for KD was the Warriors winning again without him
Worst thing for his fragile ego
Yes because he probably thought that the Warriors needed him that bad Because KD said something about Steph and said that he needed a super star before Klay came back but he was totally wrong
Why would he think they wouldn’t they did without him before
Twice
@@rodneyhall3991 exactly these guys watch to much tv always just talking about nothing none of these guys even know KD it’s so sickening tired of these brainwashed idiots always saying things they have no idea what they’re talking about
When emotions are high logic is low… Shannon is really good at these life quotes!
Facts 💯
"KD wins one title in Brooklyn it will mean more to him than those two in GS" 💯
KD was the best player on the best Team in History and Won Back to Back nothing will Thriumph That
nope. 2 > 1, don't care about narratives
@@fashionlife5348 Lebron has admitted that the Cleveland championship was more valuable than his Miami championships. I think it's silly but everyone thinks this way.
@@dawg7846 I bet you think Bill Russel > MJ then.
@@christophershaffer3921 That is Lebron His game in Miami wasnt polished to Win as with Kevin Durant who won the exact same year
I love how KD talks about the toxicity around LeBron but it's nothing but toxic wherever KD goes
Facts...He won't admit it nor will his Stans but he's always been jealous of LBJ and how people perceive him...and LeBron is 10x tougher mentally.
Kd is not being held a goat standard. Lebron is when your a goat figure every single thing would be criticize.
@@dongreene7235 True indeed, Lebron has been criticized because of his GOAT status..K.D will never know how it feels
Reach of the year.
@@jamaaldaynitelong8367 10x?? Lol that dude id afraid of crucial last shots and free throws in the finals🤣
"On paper, this is the best team in basketball." 1. They don't play the games on paper. 2. No, it isn't.
Skip was a 1000 percent right on this . He been saying kd going no where
So was I
there was no way he was gonna get moved
Gotta give Skip his credit, he was right about this one.
most people probably agreed with skip.. it wasn't hard to hold the position that KD was untradeable.
it was pretty obvious he wasnt going anywhere
I love to use this phrase. There's logic behind the lunacy. Skip may be a bit looney with his points, but he definitely has logic. Almost 50 years worth of logic. You da man Skip.
This was the safest take in the history of safe takes. I'm not giving him credit for predicting what 80% of NBA owners, executives, players and probably even fans already thought was gonna happen.
@@mxchael8318 Damn, it sounds like a lot of you are saying that now to discredit Skip on this one. A lot of you clowned him, now all of a sudden just about everyone had the same take? 🤔
This was fake news the whole time. I called it months ago that KD and Kyrie was going nowhere fast to another team🤣🤣🤣
Lol. No foolin you 'Just keeping It a hunitt'. 🤣😂🤣
Had the Nets accepted an offer they would've
😭🤣my suspicions were raised when we were expected to believe that a WHOLE Masai ujiri wud think Pascal siaakim, Fred van vliet and kevin Durant wud win a title 💀
@Caveman there were multiple teams that offered for KD genius 💀
It was over the one year contract to Kyrie. KD did this to show he had Kyrie back.
He had no leverage and Brooklyn had no package worth trading him for…Where was KD gonna go 😂😂😂 but this a W for KD a W for the nets and a W for the NBA
His only real shot was his first choice: Phoenix. If Ayton had really wanted out of the Suns (and it really did seem like it), he could have done a sign-and-trade, and for Ayton, Bridges, Johnson, and a couple picks going to Brooklyn, I think that deal would have gotten done. With CP3, Book & KD teamed up.
@@jeffreyroedel9804 no it wouldn't have happened the nets said they wanted booker or cp3
Actually an L for all 3
@@dwightyawg7781 how?? Please explain
@@CallMeBezzy exactly the nets were not cooperating on any trade not Kyrie and definitely not KD
Let's be clear K.D. agreed last year to proceed with the Nets when he signed a 4 year Max deal.
Let's be clear
You followed this everyday and watched if he was moving
@@loveofmangos001 lets be clear you are kevin durant on the burner account 🤣🤣🤣
I think we can officially call this the "Off-season of Re-signs" and although not much happened, I'm okay with it.
They agreed last year it's called a contract extension lol
So teams don't trade playersbundet contract...I didn't know that
@Smoke some weeeeduh and of it's ok for teams to want to trade the players the signed then it must be ok for the players to want to be traded as well!
Honestly without the drama, the team is good enough to contend. The one issue is there is no leader. Period
No it’s not
@@bigazTV yes it is KD Kyrie & a DPOY level playmaker in Ben Simmons is a good enough team to contend lol
@@bigazTV yes it is lol
the player with the most leadership skills is Patty Mills.
@@peskypesky they need to bring in Carmelo or Rondo to help lead
In other words, KD was told he would not be traded to a ready to win it all team, but they could make a deal to send him to a good team. KD, "Nah, I might as well stay here if I can't jump on a winner right away"!!!
PG - Kyrie
SG - Curry
SF - KD
PF - Simmons or Alridge
C - Claxton
Bench: Thomas, Sharpe, Harris, O'Neal, Warren, Griffin, Drummond, etc
Decent not enough to beat c's or bucks
Drum a bull bro and blake and Aldridge done you forgot summers and kelser
Swap kyrie and curry. Kyrie is more of a shooting guard. He has a shoot first mentality.
@Lucas Walker im hoping they back i like them both im just saying with the moves and direction they been going
No matter how many times you compliment him Skip...KD will never love you.
🤣😂😂😂
Skip doesn’t care
@@ShinOkamii really? Cause he says all the time "I'm one of the few people that defend him."
Just a reminder, Skip called this the entire time. Said from day 1 the nets will Just sit on him.
I said they were going to be playing in Brooklyn at the start of the season after the Gobert trade. The asking price was just too high.
After giving up their talented young core, draft picks and winning head coach, "anything less would be uncivilized"
A Warriors-Nets Finals would definitely raise the ratings back up. So many good storylines with that.
Lol imagine if kd won 21 and then curry still win the championship won in 22 leading to a curry vs Durant finals in 23.
Celtics
clippers vs nets finals 2023
i wouldn't watch that...not that the Nets are getting anywhere close to the Finals anyway
I'm sure with these three stars "leading" the team this should put an end to the drama with the Nets this year.
Kd making that trade request and other teams throwing names out just made it hard for other players to wanna be there in there organizations it’s gonna be funny how it plays out jaylen brown lol 😂
Best decision he could have made. Now everybody needs to just be adults and move on from this summer of drama, if the Nets can figure it out with KD-Kyrie-Simmons with their current supporting cast then they can definitely win a championship, but they can't do it unless everybody is committed and locked in - Kyrie especially 🙄
Really Kyrie especially?
Not Simmons? The guy that took a whole year off just to mess with the 6ers?? Kyrie was healthy and wanted to play. If I was KD I wouldn't want to play with Simmons no matter what
Why kyrie ?
@@balamkinich7968 if your boss didn't have faith in you, would you still want to work for them.... 76ers had not faith in Simmons. This kid will run it back with the Nets. He'll be an Allstars this year.
Fax 📠
The funniest timeline would be Ben Simmons and KD playing great together and Kyrie becoming the target of hate like Simmons (rightfully) was.
I am a KD fan, but I am a bigger NBA fan. KD has to learn to stop running from his challenges. There is no easy way out. Anything worth having is worth working for. He didn't have to work to get those championships in GS. KD staying in Brooklyn is great for the NBA and great for the fans. KD doesn't know it, but it's great for him too.
He didn’t have to work for those championships yet he was back to back finals mvp. The kd meat munching gotta stop. 🤦🏾♂️
Yall bring the toxicity to the sport mostly 🤧
not a KD fan or a Bron fan they both need to stop running
@@ineedyourwifi think about what i said, and think about the loaded team he joined
@@WTN416 when you're weak minded, everything becomes toxic. toughen up snowflake.
As much as i can't stand all 3 at this point i really want to see kd kyrie and simmons get it goin they could be a powerhouse team
Softest superstar of all time
Hate to do this but Huge Shout-Out to Skip. He was 100% right about everything and called the bs right from the beginning.! -- he was the only analyst saying this from the very beginning. You got this one Skip 👌🏻👌🏻
Credit to Skip, he was adamant about Durant staying put
Everybody in the world saw this coming
@@fear7126 10000000% untrue, so many people (pretty sure that includes Shannon) thought that he was getting out of there. Your comment is classic revisionist history
@@zaneplatt3533 that’s what was thought at the beginning for most but as time went on we could all see where this was going.
@@NateGotJokes My point is that Skip was trumpeting Durant staying from the beggining
@@zaneplatt3533 exactly. People are now all of a sudden saying that they all saw it coming. Not that long ago, those very same people were saying that KD is gone lol. Skip said it since Day 1.
Kyrie was proven right about not taking the shot/jab. That's not a good excuse anymore
Say what you want but Skip was right like always‼️keep killing them Skip
Brooklyn’s got a very good squad, and will be very dangerous. They have an elite playermaker and defender in Simmons, and two elite scorers, along with a decent bench.
Good points
Npc comment
just nobody that's consistent
or a leader.
They had the whole ex-Pistons Starting 3 (Drummond, Blake Griffin, and Bruce Brown) on the bench ; shoulda been HOOPIN'!!
As long as Ben Simmons isn’t hurt……emotionally
Problem with Nets was never KD, the board or coaching staffs. The only core cancer in Nets is Kyrie. Nets won’t be going anywhere if Kyrie is still in Nets or Kyrie having an important role in Nets.
I don’t see Kyrie changing from last season.
How you move forward but stay put ?? Change this caption asap !!
Stay put with the team?
@@tarikalibasic4176 “Kd has decided to remain in Brooklyn after meeting with owner” sounds more accurate
Like for Happy Birthday Kobe, R.I.P. What a legend in the NBA and as a dad
Kyrie and KD just needed a spanking by ownership. They’ll be good from here on out
Bro😂😂
Mannn the Brooklyn Nets not beating no warriors in a 7 game's final 🤣🤣🤣 they still have to get past a healthy Bucks & Celtic's own them that have the formula...
@Smoke some weeeeduh Exactly big facts there totally agree....
On paper they have one of the best "Súper teams" in the league let's just hope they can consistently play together.
KD , Irving and Simmons sounds scary at least on paper
Agreed! I hate to say this because Simmons is no where near the player Lebron is but if Simmons could perform well and at least score a tiny bit - he could be kyrie’s Lebron 2.0
@@butskiiueepp1625 he is no way close to lebron but people sleeping on Simmons cause of a missed layup and some missed free-throw, but this guy is a baller and can score on anyone
FS1 has more than enough money to pay to put subtitles on these videos, but they don't.
That's very unfortunate for us with hearing problems that rely on subtitles to fully understand.
Please normalize subtitles!
Nets are gonna be TOUGH if Simmons can get out of his head.
LOL
Joe Tsai is NOT the first NBA exec to say "no" to a superstar. Remember when Kobe DEMANDED a trade to the Bulls? Wish it would have happened, but alas, Kobe stayed with the Lakers for 20 years after all.
"I don't know, I'm not privy to the conversations they have" then proceeds to tell us exactly how those conversations went smh.
Hilarious, Skip saying Durant is a good guy and Durant says he hates Skip 😂lol
Skip Bayless and Chris Broussard called it. You weren't going to take 4 quarters for a dollar, much less 2 quarters.
Well, that's good to hear...
KD, Kyrie, Simmons, TJ Warren, Royce O Neale, Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Patty Mills. If they gel right and Simmons returns to form they will be formidable
The Warriors would wipe the floor with Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not making it to the finals anyway. They're too dysfunctional.
LEGACY YEAR FOR HIM
He simply didnt have a choice. Nobody wanted to give up their whole core for a guy who will ask for a trade a year later
I think he doesn't want to play with Kyrie. They won't win together, so this is gonna be interesting...
Shannon: "You tried to swap me spare parts for a drop top Bugatti" 😂😂😂
Nets just set the blueprint for all the other teams. Set the price super high 😂😂
80s/90s/2000s NBA was so good, not this big diva drama show, and 90s seemed like every team had a legit good big man
Fresh off winning the champ the warriors are now underdogs to the nets who got SWEPT in the 1st round, now they have Ben Simmons LOL
Lol here they go saying the favorites off ifs…if Ben can get right, if Kyrie can do this 😂 them dudes are unreliable all of a sudden they just gonna beat the warriors in the finals?? Shannon was on that hen & yak before they started this episode
This is like your wife and your girlfriend finding out about each other, getting mad at you, threatening to leave you, but both finally agree that they will stay with you. What a freakn ending!
their roster is stacked but with the egos and drama in that locker room, i still dont see it happening
Kd gets a ring in nyc he’s automatically top 10!!! Period
We all know relationships built on ultimatums and failed breakups are healthy, prosperous, and blissfull.
Skip!!! One minute you say KD won't pout then you say he pouted in the playoffs. Which one is it??
I never understood why people say KD was so dumb for leaving G.S , He left because winning 1 title as the clear bus driver in Brooklyn would mean more than 3 in G.S.
Bruh…uncle shay switched his argument so fast on this one😂 all ive been hearing him say for the past few weeks was how Boston and golden state turned down deals because kd wasnt worth what Brooklyn wanted and how kd needs to get traded because he cant be in brooklyn being that upset with the team
He wasn't the first owner to say no to a superstar ... The 76ers said no to Ben Simmons and he literally just didn't show up for an entire year ... Durant was just the first superstar to back down in the face of the "no".
I'm still convinced that KD does not want to put up with any more of Kyries bs. He just won't come out and say it
Bro… without kyrie they stand no chance for title run.
The Question is how many games will they play TOGETHER?
Hopefully not less than sixty
New York is the best place in the world when you win, not so much when you lose.
Things will never be the same between KD...Steve Nash...and Sean Marks
The next CBA needs to hammer 🔨 these divas so hard they remember they mommas’ grandmommas.
Let’s keep Skip and FIRE. NICK. WRIGHT. (always wrong)
KD is the biggest B in the history of sports and that's not debatable.
Damn...I was hoping for Kyrie n Bron 😂🥴
Was never going to happen, only LeBron stans kept hoping it was possible
How ? Lakers didnt have enough to get him lmfao
@@ShutThePuck relax 😂🤣 y'all live to have a Lebron debate you won't get that energy outta me cause ain't none of these mufuckas paying you or me...but carry on 😂✌🏿✌🏿
@@ShutThePuck 😂😂😂😂 say it out Loudly. Bronsexuals
@@jleww8959 actually they did as long as KD left...the Nets was willing to trade Kyrie 4 Russ IF KD left
I mean who doesn’t see this coming. Did the media really think the Nets were going to give a superstar for nothing in return?
Shannon came in hot with that last minute take.
Kd really wanted a free ring lmfao
???? Yall haters are annoying I bet u never won anything in ur life 🤷
@@clutchin7962 sheesh why so emotional?😭
@@clutchin7962 lol? Who hurt u
@@clutchin7962 Cry and cope
Smh No such thing as a free ring when your a superstar what are you talking about
Thank Gobert for making the defensive move of the year by making the trade value impossibly high to trade Kd and Kyrie.
Kyrie before Lebron: 0 playoff games
Kyrie since leaving Lebron:
17-18: Injured before playoffs, team makes ECF without him.
18-19: Historically bad series vs Milwaukee, shoots 33% FG and 19% 3PT, loses round two, leaves team.
19-20: Plays 20 games with losing record, doesn’t play in playoffs for Nets who made it despite him playing 20 games.
20-21: Gets injured in playoffs, loses round two. Losing record without Harden all year.
21-22: Plays 20 games with losing record, gets swept first round and averages 15.3 PPG on 37% FG in the last 3/4 games.
He would be Walmart Kemba Walker without Lebron, Harden, and Durant.
Dude you just wasted all that time typing that dumb stuff?
He was never leaving…4 years left at age 34…nobody wants that …no matter how great he is…
I understand why kyrie did what he did, he’s spelled it out pretty well, but I also believe he should’ve given up the money.
You do realize he loss money..... He loss roughly half of his salary last year..
Seems like Joe Tsai didn’t have to hire Stephen A Smith as head coach, in order to keep KD and Kyrie on the board.
Nets still need a center...go for Myles Turner
They’re just gonna have him and kyrie play a quarter of the season to raise the value back up to get actual packages…the media is gonna nitpick everything they do and instigate all season
As they should. .they play in NYC the biggest market in the world
Kevin Durant - Tom Brady
Lebron James- Tom Brady
Dak Prescott- Tom Brady
What 😂?
Same topic every day 😆
Stop watching or Stop complaining, pick one.
I can't say the Nets are clearly better than the warriors, clippers, sixers, bucks. As a Sixers fan, I think they are severely underestimating Simmons offensive flaws. At his best in Philly, he was a liability in the playoffs. But if he can make freethrows at a respectable clip, and keep an aggressive mind set, the Nets are definitely top 2 in the league. I just have never seen Simmons do that. Should be a great season in the eastern conference.
Annnd Steve Nash is officially on the hot seat.
Damnnn no Christmas game for Nets 😭😭😭😭😭 but shiiii could be trades for them during the reg szn ??? Odd situation for sure
Meanwhile I've been going through unfortunate things at work with certain ppl but after having lunch with those individuals I decided to MOVE FORWARD & show up to work 2mro... 🤷♂️🤷♂️😄😄🤦🤦
the Bucks could have easily offered Middleton, Bobby, Greyson OR Pat + picks. No way Giannis is in any package. He is our Dirk/Duncan/Kobe. No Trade Clause should be in his contract!
I told y'all Durant wasn't going anywhere. I am only sad because Nash will be retuning as coach. If Mark Jackson gets a hold of these guys they play defense well enough to win a chip. Kyrie Irving is a Harlem Globetrotter, nothing but fancy dribbling and trick shots. He is Curly Neal with a dry afro, I am not impressed because we don't play the Generals. He can go too.
Kyrie possibly the most overrated player in history.
Shannon makes so much sense🤷
The divorce analogy is perfect🤔🤔👏👏👏
In the words of Jessica Pearson “ Never make life decisions when reeling from a loss” I find that rue in this scenario. He’s reeling from a lose of Harden, Kyrie and a first round sweep of the playoffs . Settling in take a deep breath and regroup! He’ll be just fine!
This just should go to show you that ESPN just don't have anything to talk about. They knew the whole damn time this wasn't happening
There had to be a different motive for KD doing this. He never gave any realistic trade destinations. Then he said let go of the coach and gm, which was never going to happen. He caused an uproar, but for what reason exactly?
To distract everyone from the warriors won without you slander
The crazy part is if kyrie can play n focus n not worry bout the outside world n give us 1 full season he wins at least 1 mvp
No lol.. He’s not on that level.
They are a broken team now and the relationship will never be the same. Like a couple staying together just for the kids. They will never win.
thats a tuff perspective