Went to Tony Gwynn's clinic in 1990. It was GREAT learned a lot and met some nice mlb players and coaches . Tony was one of the nicest most humble you could ever meet
What a effing badass!! "Swing the knob and the barrel will follow." This guy was a tremendous hitter, the best contact hitter post 1940. In 1995 he came to the plate 535 times and struck out a grand total of 15. Think about that!!?? 15 in 535??!! In his 5 best years with 2 strikes he hit .335!!!??? With 2 strikes!!?? That's insane. Oh, and lifetime with 2 strikes he was around .300 if I am not mistaken. Also, he wasn't juiced out of his mind, played against juiced pitchers, and looked like he was playing pool out there and could place the ball wherever he wanted. He has incredible eye-sight and bat control. It is a national tragedy he has passed because with all of his baseball greatness you cannot find a single person who doesn't say glowing things about Tony's heart and overall kindness to everyone. I am saddened for his family and friends and feel privileged to have watched him hit a baseball.
Losing him so early was a travesty to the game. His mind and teachings during this RUclips era we live in would have changed so many young players lives on the field and then off the field by the confidence and belief they would have acquired in themselves.
Guy hit OVER .300 for 19 straight seasons. Forget .400 or 56. I don't see that happening again in my lifetime. Not only that, but he hit .324 his final year at age 41 and was classy and just walked away. He probably could've gone to some lousy AL team and grinded it out a few more years, but didn't. Played for one team and one team only. Amazing.
I was there for this, I was a freshman at Coronado CA. What an amazing guy to just talk to his whole persona was contagious where you just hung on to every line and story.
RIP Tony “Mr. Padre” Gwynn! What an awesome hitter and ball player! Very underrated !!! I was at Jack Murphy/Qualcomm for hit #2000 & 3000! LEGEND 💯!!!
Thanks for posting! Hey Chris, just a little heads up. Tony Gwynn's life time batting average is .338 (after 20 years in the majors). He won 8 batting titles and hit and incredible .394 during the 1994 season (110 games)...... I'm confident he knows what he's talking about.
Not only is he one of the greatest hitters of all time, listen to how well he articulates what to do. I imagine him as a college professor if he weren't a ball player
Got back into organized ball for the first time since I was I high school and I feel like I'm swinging under water. This video and some practice will fix a lot of my issues I think. Thank you, and RIP to the great Tomy Gwynn 🙏🏻
Wish Tony was still around to shut down guys like Donaldson who make hitting insanely complicated for no reason. Tony won 8 batting titles, almost hit .400 in '94 and is in the Hall of Fame. His approach is so simple because he put so much work into his hitting and what he says in these videos comes from his long career of figuring out how to best approach hitting. Ted Williams spoke with him a lot in the mid-late '90's (before Williams became very sick) about how to hit and Tony learned all he could from The Greatest Hitter that Ever Lived. What Tony demonstrates here is his absurdly strong understanding of the skill that comes from his years of studying and practicing it You may knock this for being over simplified, but it works. Dammit, it works! Hitting is hard enough as it is, so why complicate it even more with things like elbow planes, shoulder planes, hip flexing and all sorts of things like that that Josh Donaldson talk about. Yes it may work for Donaldson personally, but not everyone is an AL MVP like he is; Tony's approach in these videos is so great because of its simplicity, and because of that, is so very accessible by anyone watching.
I keep referring to Donaldson because he went on MLB Network a couple of years ago to talk to Mark DeRosa about hitting and i thought he was about to break out a calculator and determine angles and geometry he was getting so complex. It made no sense to me.
Tony's approach: Be balanced in your stance, put your hands in a comfy position, stay balanced when you take your step, bring the knob to the ball and followthrough. That's it Someone like Donaldson: 1232x34/9.7 (xy-45y) + √665003 Find X
those kids on the side were a bunch of punks probably batting .165 with uppercut homerun swings. tony gwynn knows what hitting is all about which is.. hitting! not swinging for power or anything. gwynn is an absolute legend
Wouldn't say washed up. Played about as long as you could-40+. I would say that 19/20 years hitting above .300 is reasonably good. His "bad" season was his rookie season hitting .289.
@SneekyLookingDwarf, Gwynn is the best hitter I've ever seen and was amazing against the Yankees despite his team losing the World Series. He hit .500 in the World Series against the Yankees! I'm convinced that he would have hit .400 in 1994 if it weren't for the lousy strike. I once asked Dom DiMaggio if Gwynn was better than Williams and he laughed and said it was too hard to compare.
well said.great hitter's style does not necessarily easily tranfer to the masses.in fact many great hitters do many things wrong, but their one-in-a-zillion skills overcome the holes in their stance & swing.what makes a great hitter:his god-given beyond-rare skills.once he ages or gets hurt, those holes become apparent to the pitchers, & then he's just another guy trying to stay in the league.once you lose your superman's cape,you're no better than everyone else.connect the dots
The critics need to understand one thing. Tony can tell you how HE does it; but he can't create the same set of circumstances for you to do it the way he did. He can't make you the same height, weight, arm length or hand size that he is. He's only relaying what works for him. It's more structure than gospel, so lighten up all you genius coaches.
CHRIS, well said. everyone.. including coaches, needs to understand a coach coaches what worked for him. so what are the chances a random coach's style will help a random player? not very likely. it's a crapshoot at best. there's also a faulty assumption that every player is coachable. not so. which is a perfect explanation why a HOF hitter doesn't necessarily transfer over to being a HOF hitting coach. tony didn't have any more players get to the MLB than I, despite not only having exponentially MORE players to try, he got players with exponentially MORE talent to work with. a dynamite hitter cannot coach a 19 year old player the same style he uses. why? because 1) he's a lot stronger, smarter, experienced. which takes years to develop. so the simpler you keep it, the better the chances you will help a player. as a player gets bigger,stronger, more experienced, he knows what he can do, andcan't
Love it and how at the end he basically said what all bad coaches teach today to “create launch angle” and immediately drop the barrel head and chicken wing it. In his own words, “You’re out.”
Tony was a great hitter. No one is challenging that. But like he said, you have to be comfortable in what he calls an approach. Not everyone will succeed with this approach/mentality. There's a video somewhere on RUclips of a gentleman who played with Tony during Spring Training. He tells the story of how Tony got up in front of everyone and tried to breakdown the proper way to swing. With reverence, everyone went out and tried to incorporate the things Tony talked about into their game. Not too long after, the Padres were hitting so poorly that they all just went back to hitting the way they did before. What's right for Tony isn't necessarily what's right for everybody.
This is what I have been working with my son as his little league coaches don't emphasize the importance of balance and allowing kids to swing with hands... don't care whether my son gets a hit or not, as long as he gets the balance stand and swing the knot as hits will eventually come...
@TheGottesanbeterin Tony is the man. My comment was not clear enough. I'm saying the opposite: I think it's more likely that we'll see another .400 hitter or someone rattle off a 56 game hit streak than we will see another player hit over .300 for 19 straight years. Because it wasn't just a career year, hot streak, statistical outlier or combination of those three, it was entire career! Case in point, Nomar hit .372 in 2000 and flirted with .400 most of the season.
@AlexsTechChannel Yup, the man was a perfectionist who made himself a great hitter. I would love to be one of those kids down there taking some lessons from Tony. As a youngster I purchased some of his books and watched a lot of video of him hit. I really tried to emulate Tony.
Gabe Kapler: RIPPED AVG. .268 HR 82 HIts 799 Babe Ruth: FAT AVG. .342 HR. 714 Hits 2873 Grip it and rip it folks. If you can hit you can hit, but if you work at it you can still make contact.
@TheGottesanbeterin I think my comment may have confused. What I think we WON'T see again is 19 straight over .300....or....I think we'll see .400 or 56 BEFORE that. Because anyone can have a career year, hot streak, statisitcal outlier. What Tony did was a career.
You may be right kingcoach. The only way to be sure is to put your coaching reputation up against his. Did you also do a lot of private coaching for past and present MLB greats? If so, what's your name so I can check your web page out?
instead of asking who thinks they're good hitters, i would ask "who thinks they're hitting as well as they possibly can?"..so everyone realizes never mind how good you think you are,it's about realizing you ain't anywhere near as slick as you think you are, nor are you anywhere near as good as you could be.so there's lotsa work for ALL to do.give players the big picture,then show them where they are in that big picture..is how you grab their attention.. and keep it
the hole in any great hitter's approach:it is not guaranteed to help just any player.he sez he doesn't care where or how you stand,hold your hands,he ignore newton's 3rd law of motion:every action has an equal but opposite reaction.this means good or bad, every action has a consequence.this is a natural law of nature.when you think you can implement your will on laws of nature.. you end up failing.better to understand & use those laws to your advantage.so there's a big hole in tony's mindset
@ChrisKOLeary haha yeah, okay. The bat head will naturally fall below a batter's hands, but the front elbow doesn't jerk upward, which is what he was talking about. I can't believe you'd even say he doesn't understand hitting. Who are you? Where's your plaque in the Hall of Fame?
im using a 34inch ash bat. i dont know the weight though :( but i have a link to it www.rawlings.com/product/adirondack-big-stick-334c/334C(Rawlings)?contextCategory=adirondack-pro-wood
I couldn't find the weight on it. I'm gonna lay odds that it is to heavy for you. By their sizing chart they say you should be using a 33" bat but by swinging the knob you control the barrel better. Have you tried using a different bat? How old are you?
Tony was awesome. I know he will change his appearance because all of SD loves him and wants him healthy. Please Tony, get better and then get back to that svelte looking 21 year looking Padre and grow out the 'fro! :) PS: You clowns who commented on T. Gwynn's instruction - can you recite the TWO things every hitter has to do? Or are you so mixed up with years of different coaches telling you different things? This clip is only 3 minutes...30 seconds of it will teach all you need.
soon on the webpage.i'm producing a video as we speak.here's the deal:great hitters teach the style they used. if every great hitter is teaching his own different style to players,how's that gonna work very well for a common player with common skills?it WON'T.there ain't no guarantee doing what tony gwynn does will make you a great hitter.so it can't possibly work as well as another way.my theory involves using every action that increases batspeed & eliminating actions that decrease batspeed.
he's a nice guy,a truly great hitter.but he's a conventional method coach.which means he's one of those coaches who is responsible for the mlb ba sliding from .267 in 1998 down to .257 this past year, & sitting at .253 this year.his "best hitters ever, I don't see you with his mumbers"-got nuthin' to do with giving the correct information to other players so they improve.if anything, it proves what worked for him doesn't necessarily work the same for others.i poked numerous holes in his approach
IF YOU CAN'T CORRECTLY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES YOU WILL MAXIMIZE YOUR PERFORMANCE SUCCESS? 1. INFORMATION IS _?_ 2. WHAT'S INFINITELY BETTER THAN WORKING HARD? 3. WHAT 2 NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS RULE THE PLANET? 4. WHAT'S THE LAW OF ABSOLUTE RIGHT? 5. WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT, YOU _?_ 6. WHAT'S THE HARDEST THING TO DO? 7. WHAT 2 WORDS THAT ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND? 8. WHAT IS EVERY PERSON'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS?
if you listened to tony here,& you WERE hitting .500,one year later i know which way you went:bad.it is a foregone conclusion that you went worse for sure.so look me up.realize you're on a 10,000 mile journey & you've only taken about 5 steps.whatever you THINK you've learned at your young age will go directly out the window.in 5 years,you'll be 179 degrees in the opposite direction & about 100 miles away.which is a good start. but nowhere the place you'll end up.don't be shortsighted
according to tony, it doesn't matter how you stand or how your swing. so what good is a coach? he would have you believe no matter what you do, you will hit as well regardless of your stance or swing. does anyone else see the gaping hole in this mindset? hello?!?
John Suter I loved tony gwynn as much as anyone.but!the fact is a gr8 hitter doesn't guarantee u'll be a gr8 coach.tony wasn't a god walking among us mere mortals,whose every word was from god.as gr8 a hitter as he was, his coaching methods won't work for 99% of players. that's the reality. if it did, all SDS players would be in MLB,rite?but no
***** YES!!YES!! u question everyTHING EVERY person says, even tony gwynn. ur saying bcuz tony's a gr8 hitter,he MUST be a gr8 coach.NOT.gr8 hitters are usually NOT gr8 coaches.if they were,EVERYONE would go to them, & EVERY player they coached would be end up in MLB.but that ain't so, is it? tony ruined more players than he helped
***** newton's 3rd LAWLAWLAW of motion states "every action has an equal but opposite REaction."this LAW means EVERY ACTION HAS A CONSEQUENCE!this applies to THE BATTER'S BOX!!tony obviously never heard this LAW.if he did, hemight not have been sending as many players down the toilet as he did with that approach
***** hitting a baseball is not an art, rather a science. coaches who treat it as a subjective creative endeavor kill FARFAR more players than whatever is 2nd. "do whatever feels most comfortable", or "everyone has their own way"- bad. the #1 rule of hitting: EVERY ACTION MUST PASS THE ACID TEST OF BEING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NATURAL LAWS OF BOTH LOGIC AND PHYSICS.newton's 3rd law of motion states everyeveryevery action has a consequence. so when any random coach says it doesn't matter how or where you stand, or how you swing.. he does his students a disservice. if you had all 30 MLB hitting coaches in a room, & asked "everyone who has completed a college course in BOTH logic and phyics, raise your hand".. you would get a big fat zero. think about it. the blind leading the blilnd
"i dont' care where you stand,how you hold your hands,whether you're open or closed, how far back" O MY GOD SHOOT ME.THIS REFUTES THE FACT THAT 1+1= 2. in an equation when you change ANY part on one side, you change the result on the other side.this relate to hitting how? WHEN YOU CHANGE ANY PART OF YOUR STANCE OR SWING, YOU CHANGE THE END RESULT OF THE PERFORMANCE SUCCESS.EVERYTHING ACTION ON THIS PLANET HAS A CONSEQUENCE..HELLO?!? YES.. THIS EVEN APPLIES TO BASEBALL PLAYERS.YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT
here's a quiz I give to every prospective student I meet. I call them "LIFE RULES" since I've never had anyone get more than 3 right.. let's see how all you baseball geniuses do. since baseball is a part of life. I can relate the answers to aspects of hitting a baseball. here we go. 1. INFORMATION IS ___?___ 2. WHAT'S INFINITELY BETTER THAN WORKING HARD? 3. WHAT 2 NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS RULE THE PLANET? 4. WHAT'S THE LAW OF ABSOLUTE RIGHT? 5. WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT, YOU ___?___ 6. WHAT'S THE HARDEST THING TO DO? 7. WHAT 2 WORDS THAT ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND? 8. WHAT IS EVERY PERSON'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS? 9.. IF YOU HAVE A PAYING JOB, WHAT IS YOUR #1 PRIORITY? 10. WHAT'S THE STRONGEST THING IN THE WORLD? 11. WHAT'S EVERY HITTER'S 2 MOST FREQUENT ERRORS?
***** hatsoff to you!! you have a much better thought process than about 95% of all coaches I have had exchanges with!! you have my respect, which believe me, is very hard to achieve!! YOU HAVE SCORED A HIGHER GRADE THAN ANY PERSON WHO HAS TAKEN THIS TEST!WOW! YOU GOT 4 CORRECT!! (2 correct, & 4 others I gave you half a point) although that's only a 50% grade.. it's the best one I've run across. what does that say about baseball coaches & players? donl't get mad.. don't be discouraged. BASEBALL PEOPLE HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN INDOCTRINATED WITH THE WAY THINGS WORK IN THE REAL WORLD. once you can answer all 8 questions.. ONLY THEN are you on the way to success. you got the 1st 2 correct, which says a lot about you. the thing about information is so many coaches are giving out BAD information, & killing their players. it's up to the player to determine what is good information & what is bad information, it's tricky. what should he do? I ALWAYS encourage a player to ASK WHY!! why ask why? BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY YOU DETERMINE IF THE INFORMATION IS BAD OR GOOD!! YOU DETERMINE IF THE COACH CAN SATISFACTORILY EXPLAIN WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. IF HE CAN'T EXPLAIN, HE CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT! the only criterion is the explanation must make sense- IT MUST ABIDE BY THE 2 NATURAL UNREAKABLE LAWS THAT RULE EVERYTHING & EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET: LOGIC & PHYSICS! this is where 95% of all coaches go off the rails & destroy players: like tony, they endorse actions which contravene these laws.. which means they must fail. more to follow
*****#2- why is it I always hear players talking about HARD they work? Gordon beckham's exit line after he got traded by the sox to the angels:"I'M GONNA KEEP WORKIN' HARD" I laughed so hard, I peed myself. players of the world: IF WORKING HARD WAS THE KEY TO SUCCESS, THENN HALF THE PLAYERS IN MLB WOULD BE HITTING .350!! BUT THEY'RE NOT. SO A PLAYER MUST ENGAGE THEIR BRAINS.. CONNECT THE DOTS.. & REALIZE THAT WHATEVER THEY'\RE FOCUSING UPON & WORKING HARD UPON.. AIN'T WOIKIN'! so then they must look elsewhere for a different answer to their specific problems.. which players rarely if ever do. when a person does the same thing overandoverandover expecting a different result.. psychologists call that "insanity". I never hear a player say "I NEED TO CORRECTLY IDENTIFY THE HOLES THE PITCHERS ARE POUNDING, & FIGURE OUT WHY THEY'RE GETTING ME OUT WITH THOSE PITCHES. THEN I NEED TO ELIMINATE THOSE HOLES BY ADJUSTING THINGS IN EITHER MY STANCE OR SWING THAT WILL GET ME TO THOSE PITCHES ON TIME. I MUST WORK ALOT AMSRTER THAN I HAVE BEEN" #3- correct answer is LOGIC & PHYSICS. if a coach is unaware of the basic laws that rule everything we do on a daily basis.. what are the chances he will give good correct information to his players? he won't. if you have all 30 MLB hitting coaches in one room, and ask "everyone who has earned a college credit in BOTH logic AND physics.. raise your hand." if ONE person raised his hand.. I woul be astounded. so what are the chances coaches are giving out information that abides by these laws? not much. more to follow.
***** here's the common thread for you & every other baseball person on the planet: SINCE YOU'VENEVER EVER BEEN EXPOSED OR INDOCTRINATED TO THE WAY THINGS WORK OUTSIDE OF BASEBALL IN THE REAL WORLD.. DON'T BE DISCOURAGED OR UPSET. THE PRIMARY MISSION OF THE QUIZ- IS NOTNOTNOT TO MAKE A PLAYER REALIZE HOW LITTLE HE KNOWS ABOUT HOW HITTING A BASEBALL REALLY WORKS.. RATHER TO INGEST THE INFORMATION SO HE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES NECESSARY SO HE ENGAGES THE CORRECT THOUGHT PROCESS. this is where coaches fail their players. you can't tell them what to do.. rather YOU MUST DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO HELP THEM THINK CORRECTLY FOR THEIR OWN DAMN SELVES. god gave physical skills to MLB players.. unfortunately intelligence to use those skills to their best advantage.. notsomuch.and 95% of the coaches are of no help whatsoever. more to follow
***** let's talk about logic & physics. these LAWS were constructed by a simple observation & description of the actual way things happen. THERE IS NO ARTISTIC, SUBJECTIVE OR CREATIVE INPUT WHATSOEVER. that's why they're LAWS. THEY ABIDE BY THE ACTUAL EVENTS AS THEY ACTUALLY OCCUR!! THAT'S HOW THEY END UP BEING IRREFUTABLE. THE EVENTS SUBSTANTIATE THE LAWS. IF THEY DON'T, THEN THE LAWS WERE CHANGED TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EVENTS. in our reality, these LAWS weren't written by writers, or artists. you must come to grips with the FACT THESE LAWS SIMPALY STATE IT IS WHAT IT IS!! so you must change the way you look at these NON-NEGOTIABLE LAWS. as soon as you come over from the dark side.. everything becomes much simpler. the simplest things help hitters more than the complicated ones. coaches AND players are always overcomplicating the entire endeavor. BAD. question: don't you realize you're in the 95% set where common, conventional, non-innovative, closed-set-with-no-fresh-outside-ideas is the reason you are producing players at the MLB level whose BA gone from .267 down to .253 over the last 15 years?.. and must now REJECT YOUR WHOLE MINDSET & CHANGE UP? your mindset that everyone is different.. & everyone should just do whatever works for them.. BADBADBAD. this mindset refutes those 2 LAWS I wrote of. YOU CAN'T JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO!! WHATEVER ACTION YOU ENDORSE.. YOU MUST RUN BY THE NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS OF BOTH LOGIC & PHYSICS!! THIS IS WHERE COACHES & PLAYERS GO OFF THE RAILS!! TO DO OTHERWISE GUARANTEES UNDERACHIEVEMENT AT BEST.. & FAILURE AT WORST. for every player I tell he's doing something which is self-defeating.. & they come back with "well it works for me!!'.. I respond "IF ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS WORLD IS 'WORKS FOR ME'.. THEN YOU HAVE NO SHOT IN ALL THE WORLD TO ACHIEVE YOUR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE SUCCESS!! AND YOU & I MUST PART WAYS. YOUR ONLY SHOT TO SUCCEED IS TO REALIZE 'WORKS FOR ME' IS NOT THE BEST PLACE TO BE!! EXPAND YOUR MIND.. & REALIZE THERE'S ALWAYSALWAYSALWAYS A BETTER WAY. COME TO THE REALIZATION, THERE'S AN OK WAY.. LIKE 'WORKS FOR ME!!', BUT THEN THERE'S A GOOD WAY, A REAL GOOD WAY. BUT JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ENDEAVOR ON THE PLANET.. THERE'S ONLY ONE BEST WAY TO DO SOMETHING. CONNECT THE DOTS!! THE REASON YOU'VE COME TO ME FOR COACHING IS YOU'VE ADMITTED TO YOURSELF YOU ARE UNDERACHIEVEING. SO NOW COMES THE TIME TO ELIMINATE THESE ACTIONS WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN YOUR UNDERACHIEVING.,. & CHANGE UP TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE SAMEOLDSAMEOLD THATRESULTED IN YOUR BEING HITLESS IN THE LAST 3 GAMES." mpore to follow
***** the BEST answer to question #4..is the one written in the LAW. once again, it's non-negotiable, & irrefutable. I didn't write it. it's been around only since the 1950's when a guy states defined the terms. google it. the FIRST part states "WHEN YOU GET A GOOD RESULT, YOU DID SOMETHING RIGHT." then come the bad part- the SECOND part which is the correct answer to question #5- "WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG" I gave you half a point on #3, & half a point on #5. it's a good answer, but not quite as GOAL-SPECIFIC as possible. so many times people answer a question with the1st thing that pops into their head.. but never go back & ask themselves "did I answer that question with the BEST ANSWER POSSIBLE?' you simply didn't go back far enough in your thought process to the part where.. at its simplest terms,, you must realize you did something wrong. you jumped to the next step in the thought process.. where you realize you must learn from it. which is why you got a half point.
God. You're arroagance is astonishing. Perhaps the reason MLB hitters have gotten "worse" is that pitching has gotten better, or hitters can't hit with wooden bats because they grew up with magic aluminum bats, people like you coached them when they were young and they never recover.
Just because someone is accomplished at something does not necessarily mean they can teach it. Almost every MLB hitter has no clue what is really happening when they swing the bat. Even after they see video of it. Cues like the one in this video are just passed down from generation to generation, never helping anyone except those with enough raw talent to make it no matter what. If this changed then we'd see a hell of a lot better baseball being played. And a lot more of it. Oh well.
It's not that they're too technical, it's just that they're trying to make every single player the same type of hitter. They want everybody to hit balls to the wall and out of the park. Some players, like me, just aren't power hitters. They can improve there power, but they may never really be a home run threat. They just teach the wrong stuff, in my opinion. From this video, Tony Gwinn wouldn't agree with them either. What is your philosophy of hitting? Mechanically speaking.
No, what he's saying is why would he listen to some clown named kingcoach13, who hides behind a computer trying to teach hitting when he himself never played, when he could listen to a guy who has 3,141 more major league hits than you
when tony sez he doesn't care where you stand, hold your hands, etc,. he refutes newton's 3rd law of motion which states "for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction." BAD. EVERY ACTION HAS A CONSEQUENCE!! EVERY LITTLE THING YOU DO IN THE BOX INFLUENCES YOUR PERFORMANCE SUCCESS!!love tony as much as the next guy,but he's spewing self-sabotaging nonsense,& leading his players into baseball hell. bad. he's unaware of certain natural laws of both logic & physics that rule EVERYONE
according to your logic.. anyone who doesn't have a lifetime ba of .338 or didn't play mlb for 20 years.. is not qualified to have an opinion or coach hitting? huh? according to those limitations, how many coaches would there be?
I am completely and utterly unqualified to make judgments of hitters. Tony Gwynn was one of the nicest men in baseball and a great hitter. However, he has very little idea what he is talking about. The front elbow does go upward, there is a "shallow U" bat path. The hands travel in a circular path. He calls the "shallow U" a reverse "C". The front elbow does rise. Tony Gwynn knew HOW to hit, but he does not know how to teach others hitting.
What a fool Tony Gwynn is, how can he teach others how to swing he was only one of the best pure hitters of all-time and only hit over .300 all 20 of his seasons I think. Imagine him thinking he could teach others how to hit.
EVERY action has a consequence.so when he sez "where you stand etc. doesn't matter",WRONG!EVERYTHING you do in the box influences performance.like any other hof player who hit .338,he had special skills.you don't.so what works for him may not work for you.also,like everyone else he continues to gain knowledge after retirement.proof is in above wrong statement.everything he says isn't gospel,& may not help you.if it did,everyone in video would be in mlb,right?he ain't god
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I would be slow to raise my hand too if one of the best hitters of all time asked if I thought I was a good hitter lol
Went to Tony Gwynn's clinic in 1990. It was GREAT learned a lot and met some nice mlb players and coaches . Tony was one of the nicest most humble you could ever meet
Man I could listen to anyone who can articulate their craft like he did all day.
Intelligence, a sense of kindness and time taken to explain.
What a effing badass!! "Swing the knob and the barrel will follow." This guy was a tremendous hitter, the best contact hitter post 1940. In 1995 he came to the plate 535 times and struck out a grand total of 15. Think about that!!?? 15 in 535??!! In his 5 best years with 2 strikes he hit .335!!!??? With 2 strikes!!?? That's insane. Oh, and lifetime with 2 strikes he was around .300 if I am not mistaken. Also, he wasn't juiced out of his mind, played against juiced pitchers, and looked like he was playing pool out there and could place the ball wherever he wanted. He has incredible eye-sight and bat control. It is a national tragedy he has passed because with all of his baseball greatness you cannot find a single person who doesn't say glowing things about Tony's heart and overall kindness to everyone. I am saddened for his family and friends and feel privileged to have watched him hit a baseball.
Losing him so early was a travesty to the game.
His mind and teachings during this RUclips era we live in would have changed so many young players lives on the field and then off the field by the confidence and belief they would have acquired in themselves.
9 years after his passing and people still leave flowers at his statue.
He is missed here in San Diego immensely
When Tony Gwynn talks about hitting, EVERYONE should listen. He could hit over .300 in his sleep, brilliance personified...RIP Tony🙏🙏
Guy hit OVER .300 for 19 straight seasons. Forget .400 or 56. I don't see that happening again in my lifetime.
Not only that, but he hit .324 his final year at age 41 and was classy and just walked away. He probably could've gone to some lousy AL team and grinded it out a few more years, but didn't. Played for one team and one team only. Amazing.
I was there for this, I was a freshman at Coronado CA. What an amazing guy to just talk to his whole persona was contagious where you just hung on to every line and story.
Wow so you’re in the video somewhere with all the gentlemen?
I flew down to his clinic back in 1990 and agree about nice of a person Tony Gwynn really was
This man is awesome. He is explaining the art and skill of hitting a baseball. I hope that these dudes are listening.
RIP Tony “Mr. Padre” Gwynn! What an awesome hitter and ball player! Very underrated !!! I was at Jack Murphy/Qualcomm for hit #2000 & 3000! LEGEND 💯!!!
this is mother fucking gold right here. Every hitter in baseball should watch this 3 minute video
Thanks for posting!
Hey Chris, just a little heads up. Tony Gwynn's life time batting average is .338 (after 20 years in the majors).
He won 8 batting titles and hit and incredible .394 during the 1994 season (110 games)...... I'm confident he knows what he's talking about.
Fantastic message. Short and to the point
Thank god there is a recording of this lesson. Tony the great
Rip gwynn. 🙏 you was the man
Not only is he one of the greatest hitters of all time, listen to how well he articulates what to do. I imagine him as a college professor if he weren't a ball player
I saw Tony carve up Ramon Martinez during Ramon's prime, with a double down the LF line, single up the middle, & single to RF. What an artist.
Got back into organized ball for the first time since I was I high school and I feel like I'm swinging under water. This video and some practice will fix a lot of my issues I think. Thank you, and RIP to the great Tomy Gwynn 🙏🏻
this dude is unreal.. a true legend
Wish Tony was still around to shut down guys like Donaldson who make hitting insanely complicated for no reason. Tony won 8 batting titles, almost hit .400 in '94 and is in the Hall of Fame. His approach is so simple because he put so much work into his hitting and what he says in these videos comes from his long career of figuring out how to best approach hitting. Ted Williams spoke with him a lot in the mid-late '90's (before Williams became very sick) about how to hit and Tony learned all he could from The Greatest Hitter that Ever Lived. What Tony demonstrates here is his absurdly strong understanding of the skill that comes from his years of studying and practicing it
You may knock this for being over simplified, but it works. Dammit, it works! Hitting is hard enough as it is, so why complicate it even more with things like elbow planes, shoulder planes, hip flexing and all sorts of things like that that Josh Donaldson talk about. Yes it may work for Donaldson personally, but not everyone is an AL MVP like he is; Tony's approach in these videos is so great because of its simplicity, and because of that, is so very accessible by anyone watching.
I keep referring to Donaldson because he went on MLB Network a couple of years ago to talk to Mark DeRosa about hitting and i thought he was about to break out a calculator and determine angles and geometry he was getting so complex. It made no sense to me.
Tony's approach: Be balanced in your stance, put your hands in a comfy position, stay balanced when you take your step, bring the knob to the ball and followthrough. That's it
Someone like Donaldson: 1232x34/9.7 (xy-45y) + √665003 Find X
If a player doesn't have a good swing, those simple hitting cues won't fix them.
Ladies and gentlemen, the late Mr. Gwynn was one helluva great hitter. His prime coincided with my youth; I was 35 during 1994 --
I was born and raised 10 minutes from Fenway Park and of course I’m a Sox fan ; but Anthony Keith Gwynn is my all-time favorite player
i see why he called THE GREAT TONY GWYNN what a legend !!!!
thanks for the tip RIP TG...
those kids on the side were a bunch of punks probably batting .165 with uppercut homerun swings. tony gwynn knows what hitting is all about which is.. hitting! not swinging for power or anything. gwynn is an absolute legend
idk why people are talking crap about Tony Gwynn. I understand perfectly what he said in this video.
Awesome, really good advise, he is the best, and Tony seems like a great instructor too. The guy could flat out rake.
R.i.p. tony gwynn
Wouldn't say washed up. Played about as long as you could-40+. I would say that 19/20 years hitting above .300 is reasonably good. His "bad" season was his rookie season hitting .289.
I think he got hurt that year too.
Washed up? Bad season ....dude Tony Gwynn was the best pure hitter of all time man....like not even a close second
@SneekyLookingDwarf,
Gwynn is the best hitter I've ever seen and was amazing against the Yankees despite his team losing the World Series. He hit .500 in the World Series against the Yankees!
I'm convinced that he would have hit .400 in 1994 if it weren't for the lousy strike. I once asked Dom DiMaggio if Gwynn was better than Williams and he laughed and said it was too hard to compare.
well said.great hitter's style does not necessarily easily tranfer to the masses.in fact many great hitters do many things wrong, but their one-in-a-zillion skills overcome the holes in their stance & swing.what makes a great hitter:his god-given beyond-rare skills.once he ages or gets hurt, those holes become apparent to the pitchers, & then he's just another guy trying to stay in the league.once you lose your superman's cape,you're no better than everyone else.connect the dots
Not just hitting the baseball, we're hitting THROUGH the baseball
The man could flat out hit!
The critics need to understand one thing. Tony can tell you how HE does it; but he can't create the same set of circumstances for you to do it the way he did. He can't make you the same height, weight, arm length or hand size that he is. He's only relaying what works for him. It's more structure than gospel, so lighten up all you genius coaches.
CHRIS, well said. everyone.. including coaches, needs to understand a coach coaches what worked for him. so what are the chances a random coach's style will help a random player? not very likely. it's a crapshoot at best. there's also a faulty assumption that every player is coachable. not so.
which is a perfect explanation why a HOF hitter doesn't necessarily transfer over to being a HOF hitting coach. tony didn't have any more players get to the MLB than I, despite not only having exponentially MORE players to try, he got players with exponentially MORE talent to work with.
a dynamite hitter cannot coach a 19 year old player the same style he uses. why? because 1) he's a lot stronger, smarter, experienced. which takes years to develop. so the simpler you keep it, the better the chances you will help a player. as a player gets bigger,stronger, more experienced, he knows what he can do, andcan't
Love it and how at the end he basically said what all bad coaches teach today to “create launch angle” and immediately drop the barrel head and chicken wing it. In his own words, “You’re out.”
Friar in, Friar out. More greats should resemble you Mr. Padre. As a Padres fan, I respect Mike Trout for the same reason. TG the #Legend
Thats why Trout is one of my favorites.
Thanks Tony for your knowledge! #19!!
Tony was a great hitter. No one is challenging that. But like he said, you have to be comfortable in what he calls an approach. Not everyone will succeed with this approach/mentality. There's a video somewhere on RUclips of a gentleman who played with Tony during Spring Training. He tells the story of how Tony got up in front of everyone and tried to breakdown the proper way to swing. With reverence, everyone went out and tried to incorporate the things Tony talked about into their game. Not too long after, the Padres were hitting so poorly that they all just went back to hitting the way they did before. What's right for Tony isn't necessarily what's right for everybody.
The Legend still alive.
Is it bad that I play Division 1 baseball and my coaches are teaching the exact things Tony Gwynn is saying not to do?...
Yes very
This is what I have been working with my son as his little league coaches don't emphasize the importance of balance and allowing kids to swing with hands... don't care whether my son gets a hit or not, as long as he gets the balance stand and swing the knot as hits will eventually come...
@TheGottesanbeterin Tony is the man. My comment was not clear enough. I'm saying the opposite: I think it's more likely that we'll see another .400 hitter or someone rattle off a 56 game hit streak than we will see another player hit over .300 for 19 straight years. Because it wasn't just a career year, hot streak, statistical outlier or combination of those three, it was entire career!
Case in point, Nomar hit .372 in 2000 and flirted with .400 most of the season.
@AlexsTechChannel
Yup, the man was a perfectionist who made himself a great hitter. I would love to be one of those kids down there taking some lessons from Tony. As a youngster I purchased some of his books and watched a lot of video of him hit. I really tried to emulate Tony.
"Ted Williams wasn't available today to talk about hitting.. but we got Tony Gwynn."
Of course he knows what he's talking about. He's Tony fucking Gywnn! !
Great player.
Best to ever do it
Gabe Kapler: RIPPED
AVG. .268 HR 82 HIts 799
Babe Ruth: FAT
AVG. .342 HR. 714 Hits 2873
Grip it and rip it folks. If you can hit you can hit, but if you work at it you can still make contact.
394 Batting avg in 1994. He would have hit 400 if not for the baseball strike.
Imagine retiring from MLB Baseball and then going back to your Alma mater to coach there...in a stadium named after you.
@TheGottesanbeterin I think my comment may have confused. What I think we WON'T see again is 19 straight over .300....or....I think we'll see .400 or 56 BEFORE that. Because anyone can have a career year, hot streak, statisitcal outlier. What Tony did was a career.
BRILLIANT GENIOUS
You may be right kingcoach. The only way to be sure is to put your coaching reputation up against his. Did you also do a lot of private coaching for past and present MLB greats? If so, what's your name so I can check your web page out?
Rest in Peace to one of the best to do it
instead of asking who thinks they're good hitters, i would ask "who thinks they're hitting as well as they possibly can?"..so everyone realizes never mind how good you think you are,it's about realizing you ain't anywhere near as slick as you think you are, nor are you anywhere near as good as you could be.so there's lotsa work for ALL to do.give players the big picture,then show them where they are in that big picture..is how you grab their attention.. and keep it
What happened to Chris O'Leary's post that some of y'all responded to?
There are 3 things that every man thinks he can do better than another... 1) Build a Fire. 2) Run a Hotel. 3) coach baseball...
the hole in any great hitter's approach:it is not guaranteed to help just any player.he sez he doesn't care where or how you stand,hold your hands,he ignore newton's 3rd law of motion:every action has an equal but opposite reaction.this means good or bad, every action has a consequence.this is a natural law of nature.when you think you can implement your will on laws of nature.. you end up failing.better to understand & use those laws to your advantage.so there's a big hole in tony's mindset
tony please take over as manager of the padres im tired of seeing them lose!!
Damn, now I feel like I could go out there and hit home runs
@ChrisKOLeary haha yeah, okay. The bat head will naturally fall below a batter's hands, but the front elbow doesn't jerk upward, which is what he was talking about. I can't believe you'd even say he doesn't understand hitting. Who are you? Where's your plaque in the Hall of Fame?
i cant swing the knob like he said :( the bat becomes too heavy and bends my wrist
Then I would say your bat is to heavy for you. How tall are you, how much do you weigh?.
hey im 6'1'' but i weight only 130
what size bat are you using?
im using a 34inch ash bat. i dont know the weight though :( but i have a link to it
www.rawlings.com/product/adirondack-big-stick-334c/334C(Rawlings)?contextCategory=adirondack-pro-wood
I couldn't find the weight on it. I'm gonna lay odds that it is to heavy for you. By their sizing chart they say you should be using a 33" bat but by swinging the knob you control the barrel better. Have you tried using a different bat? How old are you?
Tony was awesome. I know he will change his appearance because all of SD loves him and wants him healthy. Please Tony, get better and then get back to that svelte looking 21 year looking Padre and grow out the 'fro! :)
PS: You clowns who commented on T. Gwynn's instruction - can you recite the TWO things every hitter has to do? Or are you so mixed up with years of different coaches telling you different things? This clip is only 3 minutes...30 seconds of it will teach all you need.
I’d consider myself a good hitter until Tony Gwynn asked me if I was one. Everything in life is relative.
soon on the webpage.i'm producing a video as we speak.here's the deal:great hitters teach the style they used. if every great hitter is teaching his own different style to players,how's that gonna work very well for a common player with common skills?it WON'T.there ain't no guarantee doing what tony gwynn does will make you a great hitter.so it can't possibly work as well as another way.my theory involves using every action that increases batspeed & eliminating actions that decrease batspeed.
My name is Gwynn and i was named after Gwen S. and then they spelled my name after Tony Gwynn!
Clinic!
Who the fuck disliked this?????!!!!
If he says do this when you are hitting, whatever you were doing before, or THOUGHT about doing before, was wrong!
he's a nice guy,a truly great hitter.but he's a conventional method coach.which means he's one of those coaches who is responsible for the mlb ba sliding from .267 in 1998 down to .257 this past year, & sitting at .253 this year.his "best hitters ever, I don't see you with his mumbers"-got nuthin' to do with giving the correct information to other players so they improve.if anything, it proves what worked for him doesn't necessarily work the same for others.i poked numerous holes in his approach
I am so thankful that I got to see this man play! Have not seen anyone even close to Tony's level since....might not ever again
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@SneekyLookingDwarf you forgot over 3000 hits
IF YOU CAN'T CORRECTLY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES YOU WILL MAXIMIZE YOUR PERFORMANCE SUCCESS?
1. INFORMATION IS _?_
2. WHAT'S INFINITELY BETTER THAN WORKING HARD?
3. WHAT 2 NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS RULE THE PLANET?
4. WHAT'S THE LAW OF ABSOLUTE RIGHT?
5. WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT, YOU _?_
6. WHAT'S THE HARDEST THING TO DO?
7. WHAT 2 WORDS THAT ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND?
8. WHAT IS EVERY PERSON'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS?
if you listened to tony here,& you WERE hitting .500,one year later i know which way you went:bad.it is a foregone conclusion that you went worse for sure.so look me up.realize you're on a 10,000 mile journey & you've only taken about 5 steps.whatever you THINK you've learned at your young age will go directly out the window.in 5 years,you'll be 179 degrees in the opposite direction & about 100 miles away.which is a good start. but nowhere the place you'll end up.don't be shortsighted
@stormdude3603 I know, right? It sucks that I just watched this right now cause the cages JUST closed in Connecticut !@!!!!!!
What is talking "like a white guy"?
according to tony, it doesn't matter how you stand or how your swing. so what good is a coach? he would have you believe no matter what you do, you will hit as well regardless of your stance or swing. does anyone else see the gaping hole in this mindset? hello?!?
You can take your ego kingcoach13 and move along. Just take it away mate it's Tony Freekin Gwynn. Your opinion is useless.
John Suter I loved tony gwynn as much as anyone.but!the fact is a gr8 hitter doesn't guarantee u'll be a gr8 coach.tony wasn't a god walking among us mere mortals,whose every word was from god.as gr8 a hitter as he was, his coaching methods won't work for 99% of players. that's the reality. if it did, all SDS players would be in MLB,rite?but no
***** YES!!YES!! u question everyTHING EVERY person says, even tony gwynn. ur saying bcuz tony's a gr8 hitter,he MUST be a gr8 coach.NOT.gr8 hitters are usually NOT gr8 coaches.if they were,EVERYONE would go to them, & EVERY player they coached would be end up in MLB.but that ain't so, is it? tony ruined more players than he helped
***** newton's 3rd LAWLAWLAW of motion states "every action has an equal but opposite REaction."this LAW means EVERY ACTION HAS A CONSEQUENCE!this applies to THE BATTER'S BOX!!tony obviously never heard this LAW.if he did, hemight not have been sending as many players down the toilet as he did with that approach
***** hitting a baseball is not an art, rather a science. coaches who treat it as a subjective creative endeavor kill FARFAR more players than whatever is 2nd. "do whatever feels most comfortable", or "everyone has their own way"- bad. the #1 rule of hitting: EVERY ACTION MUST PASS THE ACID TEST OF BEING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NATURAL LAWS OF BOTH LOGIC AND PHYSICS.newton's 3rd law of motion states everyeveryevery action has a consequence. so when any random coach says it doesn't matter how or where you stand, or how you swing.. he does his students a disservice. if you had all 30 MLB hitting coaches in a room, & asked "everyone who has completed a college course in BOTH logic and phyics, raise your hand".. you would get a big fat zero. think about it. the blind leading the blilnd
neat
"i dont' care where you stand,how you hold your hands,whether you're open or closed, how far back" O MY GOD SHOOT ME.THIS REFUTES THE FACT THAT 1+1= 2. in an equation when you change ANY part on one side, you change the result on the other side.this relate to hitting how? WHEN YOU CHANGE ANY PART OF YOUR STANCE OR SWING, YOU CHANGE THE END RESULT OF THE PERFORMANCE SUCCESS.EVERYTHING ACTION ON THIS PLANET HAS A CONSEQUENCE..HELLO?!? YES.. THIS EVEN APPLIES TO BASEBALL PLAYERS.YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT
Churchhhhhhhh
Church
please.
We miss you Tony!
because tony is from the old school and the old school had the better generation of hitters, your coach is probably getting to technical on hitting
here's a quiz I give to every prospective student I meet. I call them "LIFE RULES" since I've never had anyone get more than 3 right.. let's see how all you baseball geniuses do. since baseball is a part of life. I can relate the answers to aspects of hitting a baseball. here we go.
1. INFORMATION IS ___?___
2. WHAT'S INFINITELY BETTER THAN WORKING HARD?
3. WHAT 2 NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS RULE THE PLANET?
4. WHAT'S THE LAW OF ABSOLUTE RIGHT?
5. WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT, YOU ___?___
6. WHAT'S THE HARDEST THING TO DO?
7. WHAT 2 WORDS THAT ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND?
8. WHAT IS EVERY PERSON'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS?
9.. IF YOU HAVE A PAYING JOB, WHAT IS YOUR #1 PRIORITY?
10. WHAT'S THE STRONGEST THING IN THE WORLD?
11. WHAT'S EVERY HITTER'S 2 MOST FREQUENT ERRORS?
***** hatsoff to you!! you have a much better thought process than about 95% of all coaches I have had exchanges with!! you have my respect, which believe me, is very hard to achieve!! YOU HAVE SCORED A HIGHER GRADE THAN ANY PERSON WHO HAS TAKEN THIS TEST!WOW! YOU GOT 4 CORRECT!! (2 correct, & 4 others I gave you half a point) although that's only a 50% grade.. it's the best one I've run across. what does that say about baseball coaches & players? donl't get mad.. don't be discouraged. BASEBALL PEOPLE HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN INDOCTRINATED WITH THE WAY THINGS WORK IN THE REAL WORLD. once you can answer all 8 questions.. ONLY THEN are you on the way to success.
you got the 1st 2 correct, which says a lot about you. the thing about information is so many coaches are giving out BAD information, & killing their players. it's up to the player to determine what is good information & what is bad information, it's tricky. what should he do? I ALWAYS encourage a player to ASK WHY!! why ask why? BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY YOU DETERMINE IF THE INFORMATION IS BAD OR GOOD!! YOU DETERMINE IF THE COACH CAN SATISFACTORILY EXPLAIN WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. IF HE CAN'T EXPLAIN, HE CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT! the only criterion is the explanation must make sense- IT MUST ABIDE BY THE 2 NATURAL UNREAKABLE LAWS THAT RULE EVERYTHING & EVERYBODY ON THE PLANET: LOGIC & PHYSICS! this is where 95% of all coaches go off the rails & destroy players: like tony, they endorse actions which contravene these laws.. which means they must fail. more to follow
*****#2- why is it I always hear players talking about HARD they work? Gordon beckham's exit line after he got traded by the sox to the angels:"I'M GONNA KEEP WORKIN' HARD" I laughed so hard, I peed myself. players of the world: IF WORKING HARD WAS THE KEY TO SUCCESS, THENN HALF THE PLAYERS IN MLB WOULD BE HITTING .350!! BUT THEY'RE NOT. SO A PLAYER MUST ENGAGE THEIR BRAINS.. CONNECT THE DOTS.. & REALIZE THAT WHATEVER THEY'\RE FOCUSING UPON & WORKING HARD UPON.. AIN'T WOIKIN'! so then they must look elsewhere for a different answer to their specific problems.. which players rarely if ever do. when a person does the same thing overandoverandover expecting a different result.. psychologists call that "insanity". I never hear a player say
"I NEED TO CORRECTLY IDENTIFY THE HOLES THE PITCHERS ARE POUNDING, & FIGURE OUT WHY THEY'RE GETTING ME OUT WITH THOSE PITCHES. THEN I NEED TO ELIMINATE THOSE HOLES BY ADJUSTING THINGS IN EITHER MY STANCE OR SWING THAT WILL GET ME TO THOSE PITCHES ON TIME. I MUST WORK ALOT AMSRTER THAN I HAVE BEEN"
#3- correct answer is LOGIC & PHYSICS. if a coach is unaware of the basic laws that rule everything we do on a daily basis.. what are the chances he will give good correct information to his players? he won't. if you have all 30 MLB hitting coaches in one room, and ask "everyone who has earned a college credit in BOTH logic AND physics.. raise your hand." if ONE person raised his hand.. I woul be astounded. so what are the chances coaches are giving out information that abides by these laws? not much. more to follow.
***** here's the common thread for you & every other baseball person on the planet: SINCE YOU'VENEVER EVER BEEN EXPOSED OR INDOCTRINATED TO THE WAY THINGS WORK OUTSIDE OF BASEBALL IN THE REAL WORLD.. DON'T BE DISCOURAGED OR UPSET. THE PRIMARY MISSION OF THE QUIZ- IS NOTNOTNOT TO MAKE A PLAYER REALIZE HOW LITTLE HE KNOWS ABOUT HOW HITTING A BASEBALL REALLY WORKS.. RATHER TO INGEST THE INFORMATION SO HE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES NECESSARY SO HE ENGAGES THE CORRECT THOUGHT PROCESS. this is where coaches fail their players. you can't tell them what to do.. rather YOU MUST DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO HELP THEM THINK CORRECTLY FOR THEIR OWN DAMN SELVES. god gave physical skills to MLB players.. unfortunately intelligence to use those skills to their best advantage.. notsomuch.and 95% of the coaches are of no help whatsoever. more to follow
***** let's talk about logic & physics. these LAWS were constructed by a simple observation & description of the actual way things happen. THERE IS NO ARTISTIC, SUBJECTIVE OR CREATIVE INPUT WHATSOEVER. that's why they're LAWS. THEY ABIDE BY THE ACTUAL EVENTS AS THEY ACTUALLY OCCUR!! THAT'S HOW THEY END UP BEING IRREFUTABLE. THE EVENTS SUBSTANTIATE THE LAWS. IF THEY DON'T, THEN THE LAWS WERE CHANGED TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EVENTS. in our reality, these LAWS weren't written by writers, or artists. you must come to grips with the FACT THESE LAWS SIMPALY STATE IT IS WHAT IT IS!! so you must change the way you look at these NON-NEGOTIABLE LAWS. as soon as you come over from the dark side.. everything becomes much simpler. the simplest things help hitters more than the complicated ones. coaches AND players are always overcomplicating the entire endeavor. BAD. question: don't you realize you're in the 95% set where common, conventional, non-innovative, closed-set-with-no-fresh-outside-ideas is the reason you are producing players at the MLB level whose BA gone from .267 down to .253 over the last 15 years?.. and must now REJECT YOUR WHOLE MINDSET & CHANGE UP?
your mindset that everyone is different.. & everyone should just do whatever works for them.. BADBADBAD. this mindset refutes those 2 LAWS I wrote of. YOU CAN'T JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO!! WHATEVER ACTION YOU ENDORSE.. YOU MUST RUN BY THE NATURAL UNBREAKABLE LAWS OF BOTH LOGIC & PHYSICS!! THIS IS WHERE COACHES & PLAYERS GO OFF THE RAILS!! TO DO OTHERWISE GUARANTEES UNDERACHIEVEMENT AT BEST.. & FAILURE AT WORST. for every player I tell he's doing something which is self-defeating.. & they come back with "well it works for me!!'.. I respond "IF ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS WORLD IS 'WORKS FOR ME'.. THEN YOU HAVE NO SHOT IN ALL THE WORLD TO ACHIEVE YOUR MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE SUCCESS!! AND YOU & I MUST PART WAYS. YOUR ONLY SHOT TO SUCCEED IS TO REALIZE 'WORKS FOR ME' IS NOT THE BEST PLACE TO BE!! EXPAND YOUR MIND.. & REALIZE THERE'S ALWAYSALWAYSALWAYS A BETTER WAY. COME TO THE REALIZATION, THERE'S AN OK WAY.. LIKE 'WORKS FOR ME!!', BUT THEN THERE'S A GOOD WAY, A REAL GOOD WAY. BUT JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ENDEAVOR ON THE PLANET.. THERE'S ONLY ONE BEST WAY TO DO SOMETHING. CONNECT THE DOTS!! THE REASON YOU'VE COME TO ME FOR COACHING IS YOU'VE ADMITTED TO YOURSELF YOU ARE UNDERACHIEVEING. SO NOW COMES THE TIME TO ELIMINATE THESE ACTIONS WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN YOUR UNDERACHIEVING.,. & CHANGE UP TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE SAMEOLDSAMEOLD THATRESULTED IN YOUR BEING HITLESS IN THE LAST 3 GAMES." mpore to follow
***** the BEST answer to question #4..is the one written in the LAW. once again, it's non-negotiable, & irrefutable. I didn't write it. it's been around only since the 1950's when a guy states defined the terms. google it. the FIRST part states "WHEN YOU GET A GOOD RESULT, YOU DID SOMETHING RIGHT." then come the bad part- the SECOND part which is the correct answer to question #5- "WHEN YOU GET A BAD RESULT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG" I gave you half a point on #3, & half a point on #5. it's a good answer, but not quite as GOAL-SPECIFIC as possible. so many times people answer a question with the1st thing that pops into their head.. but never go back & ask themselves "did I answer that question with the BEST ANSWER POSSIBLE?' you simply didn't go back far enough in your thought process to the part where.. at its simplest terms,, you must realize you did something wrong. you jumped to the next step in the thought process.. where you realize you must learn from it. which is why you got a half point.
ha! swing the knob.
God. You're arroagance is astonishing. Perhaps the reason MLB hitters have gotten "worse" is that pitching has gotten better, or hitters can't hit with wooden bats because they grew up with magic aluminum bats, people like you coached them when they were young and they never recover.
Just because someone is accomplished at something does not necessarily mean they can teach it. Almost every MLB hitter has no clue what is really happening when they swing the bat. Even after they see video of it. Cues like the one in this video are just passed down from generation to generation, never helping anyone except those with enough raw talent to make it no matter what.
If this changed then we'd see a hell of a lot better baseball being played. And a lot more of it. Oh well.
It's not that they're too technical, it's just that they're trying to make every single player the same type of hitter. They want everybody to hit balls to the wall and out of the park. Some players, like me, just aren't power hitters. They can improve there power, but they may never really be a home run threat. They just teach the wrong stuff, in my opinion. From this video, Tony Gwinn wouldn't agree with them either. What is your philosophy of hitting? Mechanically speaking.
No, what he's saying is why would he listen to some clown named kingcoach13, who hides behind a computer trying to teach hitting when he himself never played, when he could listen to a guy who has 3,141 more major league hits than you
when tony sez he doesn't care where you stand, hold your hands, etc,. he refutes newton's 3rd law of motion which states "for every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction." BAD. EVERY ACTION HAS A CONSEQUENCE!! EVERY LITTLE THING YOU DO IN THE BOX INFLUENCES YOUR PERFORMANCE SUCCESS!!love tony as much as the next guy,but he's spewing self-sabotaging nonsense,& leading his players into baseball hell. bad. he's unaware of certain natural laws of both logic & physics that rule EVERYONE
according to your logic.. anyone who doesn't have a lifetime ba of .338 or didn't play mlb for 20 years.. is not qualified to have an opinion or coach hitting? huh? according to those limitations, how many coaches would there be?
I am completely and utterly unqualified to make judgments of hitters. Tony Gwynn was one of the nicest men in baseball and a great hitter. However, he has very little idea what he is talking about. The front elbow does go upward, there is a "shallow U" bat path. The hands travel in a circular path. He calls the "shallow U" a reverse "C". The front elbow does rise. Tony Gwynn knew HOW to hit, but he does not know how to teach others hitting.
What a fool Tony Gwynn is, how can he teach others how to swing he was only one of the best pure hitters of all-time and only hit over .300 all 20 of his seasons I think. Imagine him thinking he could teach others how to hit.
Or maybe it could be, "Retired millionaire Hall of Famer teaches hitting 101 to lucky recipients."
retired FORMER MILLIONAIRE WHO PISSED AWAY ALL HIS MONEY & IS NOW BRRRRRROKE.. & HAVING TO GO BACK TO WORK SO HE DOESN'T WIND UP ON THE STREET.
EVERY action has a consequence.so when he sez "where you stand etc. doesn't matter",WRONG!EVERYTHING you do in the box influences performance.like any other hof player who hit .338,he had special skills.you don't.so what works for him may not work for you.also,like everyone else he continues to gain knowledge after retirement.proof is in above wrong statement.everything he says isn't gospel,& may not help you.if it did,everyone in video would be in mlb,right?he ain't god
washed up? He's retired. He's also one of the greatest players of all time. How does a white guy talk?
A .328 lifetime batting average! Wow!
.338, actually!
UpperCrustthe3rd Thank you. I went over his player card on BBP and was amazed by his AVG year after year. I am glad you caught that.