Comair flight 3272 Cockpit Voice Recording (with subtitles)
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Wikipedia: Comair Flight 3272 was a Comair flight from Cincinnati to Detroit on Thursday, January 9, 1997. While on approach for landing, the Embraer EMB 120 Brasilia aircraft crashed nose-down 18 miles (29 km) southwest of Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport at 15:54 EST. All 29 aboard, 26 passengers and three crew members, were killed.
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The sheer terror in the pilots voice when he realizes this is the end... Scary to realize you can go from a routine day to dead in a matter of seconds.
Every day on a 2 lane road you come within inches of having a head on and dying probably 50 times when a car or truck goes by.
@@JIMJAMSC That was a lesson taught to me in 1977 by my high school driver's ED teacher, he made a strong point that ANY inattention or impairment can get us killed.
Just ten years after graduation, a friend got distracted on a two lane road, crossing the centerline and impacting the dual axles of a semi trailer. He was killed instantly, and the world will never know what distracted him, only that any of us can do it.
Some day that will be true. Way sooner than you think, too...
@@JIMJAMSC I get your point I really do...but there is a H U G E difference between driving and a plane heading towards the ground in a nose dive going hundreds of miles per hour. Hopefully in a head on it takes a second on two, this dude knew he and his entire crew/cabin was going to die for atleast 20 seconds. Which is a eternity when you think about it
@@macbrady7002 This is it. People often parrot statistics that you're more likely to get killed by a donkey than a plane crash, or that you're more likely to die in a car crash... which is true statistically speaking because plane crashes are rare, but if a plane's going to crash you probably know it's coming for quite some time before it happens and when it does you're going to be surrounded by screaming, hysterical humans before a wall of mangled, flaming metal squishes you into paste.
There are millions more car journeys taking place every day which tends to skew the perceived "chance of survival", just as there are thousands upon thousands of car crashes where people survive, but plane crashes tend to kill either everyone on board, or at least the majority.
The survival rate of plane crashes is the crucial thing they omit. It's also the fact you have no say in the matter and have to trust the pilots and engineers to pilot and maintain the plane; if a car's got a puncture, you can pull over and change it. If a plane's got a busted wing... might as well start praying buddy, you're about to get puréed with everyone else.
Hearing someone's last words is always heartbreaking.
He should have said ."Ive hidden the gold in the".........................
@@RABIDJOCK alright
1 of the pilots survived
@@L3ghtning08
No, they didn't. There were no survivors. Look it up.
@@L3ghtning08They died instantly, LOL! I think you got this video confused with Air China Flight 129.
Surely I can't be the only one who finds the auto-pilot disconnection warning somehow haunting, right?
Creeps me the hell out too Also the “pull up.. pull up” warning.
@@SaintElmo8 also hearing “Terrain, Terrain” when it’s around midnight, raining and you can’t see anything
@@TomTheCat. for real yeah ima just keep my ass on the ground lol
Wait till you hear the one from an MD-11 (thinking Swiss 111 here)
@@TomTheCat. thats VFR fo you, not always perfect
Time to see what all the professional pilots have to say in the comment section
Well I’m here, what would you like to know?
@@brianwilkins5673 lol
@C K bro, I wrapped my head around this. Have you ever been in IMC, loaded with ice & the auto=pilot kicks off due to a stall spin situation because of no lift. He said ADD POWER at beginning. Check out this airplanes history in moderate to severe icing conditions. More than one have crahed due to its inability to shed ice in its worst places
@Amanda Lollys I have a question, how long did it take you to go through the long rigorous process of becoming a RUclips Pilot and a RUclips NTSB investigator, surely it’s harder then becoming a real pilot because they obviously don’t know how to fly as good as you do and always crash and die. I hope to be a RUclips Pilot when I grow up and hope to solve all real life pilots (aka bad pilots) air crashes.
😁
That would be terrifying. I mean to know that your life is seconds away from being over...
And the lives of everybody behind you, with all their families and children, hopes and dreams.
I don't know not really, soon as he processed it he was gone.
Whatever their thoughts were, it was short lived!
That can be the only blessing in a serious plane crash is death would usually be instant
Thats why its important to know Jesus ✝️
@@Robochop-vz3qm People died during this soundbite, have some respect and stop using tragedy to try and spread your baseless beliefs.
The terror in the captains voice
@Ian ikr it's actually really sad
Could be the result of an agressive manouver too. Talk while someone pushes you and your voice sounds the same.
One of the main reasons why pilots do not show fear during these records is cause they do not have the time. Sounds stupid but in these situations they focus on flying and have a crazy workload in most of the cases. Their brains are completly focused on whats going on and what to do so there is no room to think about what might or will happen.
At least thats what i hope it is like.
@Trump Lost, cry about it M ? :'D
Ooooffff that one is haunting.
There are CVR records out there that are much harder to listen to. Western Airlines Flight 2605 CVR is one of them or the Gol 737 that got hit by a privatjet.
@@e30kitty I wouldn't compare and contrast. Kinda strange especially when it comes to people dying.
Western Airlines 2605 is similar.
They are the two that always stick with me.
WOW! That....was some heavy shit! The terror in his voice was gut wrenching. I just couldn’t imagine. Rest In Peace.
Autopilot killed them. It adjusts for the deteriorating airflow over the ice by trimming ....... when the autopilot disengages it basically hands the pilots a fucked aircraft.
I’ll never put on a life jacket again ...
Yea, that's a fatal flaw with autopilots. It basically will pull the controls to the A/P max then say: Aw, screw it. I'm out. At that point it sets the flight controls to neutral instantly and just hands it over. It would be better if A/P when self disconnecting would slowly ease back to neutral and when pilot disconnect instantly revert to neutral.
Well said Quint.
Yup
🙄
There's a Bug Bunny cartoon where no one is flying the plane so Bugs jumps into the pilot's seat and starts pushing buttons.
As luck would have it, one of the buttons is 'Auto-Pilot'. What looks like an upright vacuum cleaner comes out of a locker,
looks at the instrument panel, puts on the last parachute and bails out.
So... Yeah. Can't trust Auto Pilots when things are already bad.
Hearing the words of the pilots makes me empathize with them and their families. Makes me think outside of my little indoor world.
Just don't think too much; there's billions of lives out there going right and wrong on a daily basis, humans aren't supposed to dwell on all of them. Live your own live, carpe diem, and try not to die in a plane crash.
How fucking terrifying. I am always on the brink of a panic attack when flying. Not afraid of death, but dying in a plane crash and drowning are my worst fears.
I wouldn't be worried for myself In that situation but I would be for everyone else around me
So, what if your plane crashes into the ocean? 🤔
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@@eviljesus6111That doesn't sound like something evil Jesus would say. That sounds like something good Jesus would say. 😋
I have the deepest respect for all Pilots, who go to work each day, carrying millions of us safely around the world. Their lives depend enormously on the skills of Ground Crews, Aircraft Mechanics, the plane itself. Last but not least, the very unpredictable Weather Conditions. What a way to earn a dollar.
Life is just so quick, fragile, unknown
Wisest, most accurate observation I've read in a week.
No. Your mind is just slow, fragile, and unknown.
It's also overrated.
Especially if you put yourself in a metal tube flying at several hundred miles an hour.
I can’t stop listening to that man. Damn. RIP to those lost
The terror in his voice is truly haunting.
Hearing the absolute fear in the pilot's voice when he knew that everyone on the plane was about to die makes my blood run colder than ice
God Bless the souls of this flight. My mother worked in Aviation for years. ( She was a federal employee most her life., US Navy-Aviation Squadron, VA Hospital, NASA, Parks and wildlife, FAA. ) She retired from the FAA in 1993 after 25 years of service. She told me once, The most common phrase they hear on Cockpit voice recorders just before a crash impact is, "Oh Shit" Didn't matter what country or Nationality, It was in most cases "Oh Shit" and in English....
really always in english? like I would expect them to say something in their native language. or like just screaming or them praying or sometimes saying I love you to someone they love
@@blurbutnerd8355 English is the international language of aviation. I'd surmise that pilots will kind of slip into a mindset of English while operating.
@@HighOrbitIonCannon yeah but like when they're dying?
@@blurbutnerd8355 Yes, when they are dying. But sometimes in their native language also. Does it really matter, mate? Lol
I read in Aviation Week many years ago (probably mid-1980s) that the final words, when all attempts have failed, are often "Oh shit."
This accident, and many others, are the reason that standard procedure when flying through icing conditions is hand-flying. I hope I never feel the fear that these men felt.
It’s a sad truth that standards are “written with blood”.
What do you mean hand flying? Like, normally flying a plane?
@@boekster7108 standard operating procedure for all large transport category airplanes is autopilot after 1000', all the way down to minimums.
This one really made my heart sink... Damn...
me too, fuck it made me want to cry just trying to visualize his death. His voice at the end just hurt me, felt such sorrow.
Same here, rest easy!
Your heart❤️kept saying:
*Pull up!
*Pull up!
Don't sink!
This one is just haunting
Don’t listen to this before going to bed. I just made that mistake.
Ope
Too late...google fed me this crap 2a.m...😭.
5:51 am also
Goddammit I'm seeing this at 1.16am
here i am too
I remember being a passenger on these Comair flight throughout my childhood and wondering if I would live through some of those flights.
0:06 that sound
I don't know why RUclips suddenly recommended this but it feels really wrong to be listening to somebody's last moments.
Then why did you click to watch it .. just because it pops up dosnt mean you need to click it and later be offended... man up wimp
@@Craighetfield2024 I actually didn't know what it was when I clicked.
Actually you should be happy for the people on that doomed flight. Death is a part of life that cannot be avoided. Though they died in a terrifying way, I do believe that their suffering is over. A coroner once said that he found death beautiful because all there is in life is pain.
@@revokdaryl1 you're right, death is a part of life and every living thing will experience it. but i can't be happy about it, im actually scared. hearing people's last moment is scary. to me death is scary.
It recommended me too out of the blue
There seems to be a diversity of behavior in one's reaction to oncoming certain death, and I think it reveals something about each pilot's psychological character.
What does it reveal?
Well when it’s sudden and unexpected like the deaths in this video I believe for most part people exclaim in terror or scream.
Yeah what does it reveal could u tell us
The last part gives me the chills.
Aftermath
The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the probable cause was inadequate standards for icing operations while in flight, specifically the failure of the Federal Aviation Administration to establish adequate minimum airspeeds for icing conditions, leading to a loss of control when the airplane accumulated a thin, rough accretion of ice on its lifting surfaces.
A contributing factor was the decision of the crew to operate in icing conditions while near the lower end of the flight envelope while the flaps were retracted. Comair had not established unambiguous minimum airspeed values for flap configurations and for flight in icing conditions. They also, against recommendation of the plane's manufacturer, failed to activate deicing boots on the wings. This was because the Comair Flight manual recommendation was in contravention of the manufacturers due to a concern over "ice bridging", a concern held over from older planes that was no longer valid on newer generation planes like the Embraer 120.
As the plane crash site is on private property, a memorial was built at the Roselawn Memorial Park in La Salle, Michigan where unidentified remains of those killed in the crash are buried. Two decades later, former Comair pilots have visited the crash site.[7]
Very sad. I remember when that happened. Flew on many turboprop flights in that area back when Toledo Airport used to connect with DTW. Wintertime always stressed me out when I had to connect between Toledo and DTW.
This one’s the most haunting for me because I’m not aware of any other CVR where the captain actually uttered the word “die” in there final seconds. Very, very heartbreaking and terrifying to listen to. 😢
One of those rare CVRs where you hear the distress of the pilots right before death.
This & the fella on the phone with 911 (on 9/11) as his Tower began to collapse... terrible.
I've never been on a plane in my life and listening to these isn't leading me to really want to anytime soon
I assume you don't get in cars either, because people die more often in those.
It's not a big deal really. I understand that people get scared about things they can't control, like flight over 10 km high, but it's the safest way to travel after all
@@maikbohner94 You can't control your car mechanic, either...
Just don't use a chain place where they hire idiots for minimum wage. Get a real mechanic who gets paid well and not much turnover there.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 or just do it ourselves, unless its a tesla or something..
St. Peter: Name?
Dave Jones.
St. Peter: Last words?
Uh, holy fucking shit were gonna fucking die.
St. Peter: Other line.
Exactly what I thought just not as clever
@@Utahforrest you should write it down and let the public decide which is more clever.
@@trevorrogers95 I was actually saying I’m the one with the less clever thought. God speed
@@Utahforrest Thank you for clarifying.
I was laughing when he said that because I genuinely had no idea what this incident was and it almost sounded fake the way he said it as though it was an over exaggeration, still having plenty of time, then I saw *impact* immediately after and now I just feel like absolute shit. I don’t think I’ve every heard genuine terror before in someone’s voice and didn’t know how to recognize it and now I think I do.
WERE GONNA ______ DIE
Thats one of the saddest things I have ever heard. It gives true feeling to the term "heavy heart" . I feel it.
Those unfortunate souls. At least lessons were learned, and this will hopefully not be repeated. RIP
The aircraft crashed due to icing.
Shows what you know
On a long enough time line, one way or another, we are all gonna fucking die..
don’t bring that shit here dude
That last few seconds of knowing it’s coming, but not enough time to even get it said...
This is heavy, but a destiny that awaits us all.
smh
@WilshirecityBlues What did the pilots do that was incompetent? The ice bridging myth wasn't their fault, they were following their company's protocol
Most, almost all.
@WilshirecityBlues exactly because of that.
It will not be heavy if you're a real muslim, it will be light and something you look forward to, it's a better life that comes if only you'd understand or heed advice.
Wing and fuse icing was a contributing factor as I remember ...
And late anti ice a active
Auto-pilot: the hal 9000 of aviation.
Hands down:the saddest flight disasters are always gonna be the ones involving children
Y’all Remember the one American Airlines 965 to Cali,Colombia where the little boy hung from a tree on his stomach,only to later succumb to his injuries :’/
Right!🥺 Don’t forget the 2002 Uberlingen disaster where a plane carrying gifted children collided with a delivery jet. Seeing this on “Mayday: Air Disaster “ was too heartbreaking for words 💔💔💔
Why does someone decide we need to hear this? Or we would be better for publicizing it?
How would you like to hear that over the captain's intercom?
I remember wanting to go to that comair aviation academy. But just couldn’t come up with the money.
oh no that actually gave me goosebumps
Prolly shouldn’t watch this while I’m about to board my plane
So the autopilot was disconnected.
Did the autopilot trim the aircraft so terribly making up for something else- ice maybe? Deteriorating engine performance? That when it disconnected it left them basically unrecoverable?
That gave me the chills..
I’m just wondering, were the pilots voices altered for privacy reasons? The pilots voice sounded distorted almost Freddy Krueger like. I’m not trying to be mean I’m just curious if this was the case.
Hate to give it a "like" but I did... rest easy fellow travelers.
This is the most terrifying CVR I've hear from all of them
This is horrifying.
Haven't we learned yet that "tropical" planes and ice don't mix well.
You're obviously ignorant and don't know what "flight certification program" means. It's not your fault, though.
It works perfectly well, if you just follow the instructions in the POH.
Comair management bought equipment that they didn’t understand,
and created flight rules for their pilots that were inevitably going to
cause a tragedy if they encountered the wrong conditions.
On the crash date, they did.
I was a passenger on that route every week for most of a year in 2007.
"Tropical" planes?
I think puddle jumpers used in warm places where there is ocean air has a lot more stress and strain than planes without so many stressful takeoffs and people who know all about ice and snow...jmo
Death is not the end. I hope they are all in a better place. 🙏
Prove it.
@@jdtown6585 I will.
@@benjamingrimes3304 Great. When you enter that next dimension, hit me up and we'll grab a beer.
@Brian Szpot Do the service at home. Ghouls want to steal your organs and sell them. No joke. Look it up. The Body Brokers. No embalming. Escorted body at ALL times. Jmo.
.see Kevin Bacon in that movie about that.
Does anybody know why the audio sounds so weird? It feels a little bit too slow and the voices too deep.
Is it me or can you hear crickets in the background...?
And were off to the comments section
Let’s see what the experts think
@Emmet Ray don’t drop your soap
Man these recordings are just gruesome.
Kind of feel like this stuff should be kept private.
you have won the Snowflake Award: 2021
@@hika5564 hear hear!! 👏🏻
To the OP: that's why a law was passed that forbids the CVR recordings to be released to the public, which together with sopa is one of the worst laws EVER. We the people have the right to know the truth
Yet here you are.
The pilot was speaking in his final second of life. Straight into the ground. A second later, he was clinically dead.
Last time I flew from Krasnador Russia to London Heathrow in winter ,it was heavily snowing outside and round about -20 ,looking out of my window I watched the the de icer vehicle spraying the wings ,I'm not too ashamed to say I fookin near shite myself on take off 😯
Thanks RUclips for recommending me this video.
Bank angle is the most fucked up moment
Question, Was the CVR so badly damaged that the way it cut off meant it was damaged?
It cuts off when the plane crashes.
Mark Wahlberg: "I would have pulled back on the yoke as hard as I could, then landed safely in a field".
An inadequately trained regional airline coupled with an aircraft with poor safety record = not good for the flying public.
Although it wasn't stated wih much respect, it's true that our reliance on automated systems (flight and nav) has eroded some of our collective airmanship. Operators continue to think the machines can outfly humans, and under certain limited circumstances, they can... until they don't.
Thoughts and prayers for the survivors.
what? all of them died.
So there were no survivors, and reason for crash had nothing to do with automation. The wings had iced and it was determined a lack of protocol with their employer was set up with respect to speed in icing conditions and when to apply deicing countermeasures. Autopilot was disengaged as pilots must land and take off manually. Nothing to do with the crash.
@@insaneapples1559 Are you saying they violated contamination regulations and departed with ice adhering to critical lift and/or control surfaces?
@@markjones7063 No, ice formed on the wings during flight. The loss of power and bank angle required for landing caused them to lose control and plane stalled. NTSB determined Comair was at fault, not the pilots or the plane.
@@insaneapples1559 You're wrong, and you've been wrong from the very beginning. Stop spewing misinformation and leave this to the professionals.
Hope there is a visual recreation of what happened in this incident
Here ya go:
ruclips.net/video/DIqrhkPo5Nc/видео.html
Danm that was pretty chill
This Plane Practically Nosedived and Pilots Watched as The Ground Got Closer and Closer....Pilot Looked Right in The Face of Death....Sad Chilling Audio
Man...........😥
Where enige sounds
This stuff doesn't usually affect me.But this one definitely, this is Ghana sticks with me
So the big lesson is not using auto pilot in icing conditions. When the auto pilot gives up and disconnects, you have no idea what condition or configuration it will hand the plane over to you.
You can hear the terror in his voice
It’s sad that Captain Carlson knew they were going to die and barely got to finish his sentence.
First time i can actually kinda feel the fear of the moment
This is one of the reasons why airlines started to phase out the EMB-120.
Heartbreaking
(BEEEEP)
"Autopilot"
*Oooh Shit*
You ever hear that in your flying car? 🤣
That’s sooo sad !!!
Ouch, this is hard to hear.
R.I.P 🪦💐
That impact was completely silent on the CVR recording. Also, does anyone else think that the autopilot disconnect warning beep is kind of haunting, and then a computer voice saying "Autopilot" like it's trying to kill you? That captain saying "We're gonna f***** die!" is so incredibly haunting.
We will all die one day. It is sad and scary to think that this moment will come upon us suddenly. As it did here. But I hope to be ready when my time comes.
No one is ever ready. Agony will hit hard anyway.
@@leodesouza2855 Some are though...
Pretty calm right before death
Fight Like Hell People!
Om Mani Padme Hum
Never trust Cessna citations
thats heartbreaking
Well he wasn't wrong...
Just let the autopilot disapear from aircrafts
Bro he sounds like a ghost
Rest in peace folks if u can
Wow, this one is disturbing.
The plane looks like a jet with propellers
Flight 32 72!
Dave LaBute Ahhh how did I miss that, thank you!!
@@DeclaringAnEmergency No worries! 👌
I don’t get it?
@@josephdale69 I don't remember exactly but the publisher of this video had made a typo or something and I helped them out, the only way I could....in the comments.
Sounds like he said "we're in an effin dive"
Last words: Were Gonna Fu*kin' Die!