Socialism, Communism, Marxism; What's the Difference?

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  • New Discourses Bullets, Ep. 106
    Socialism, Communism, and Marxism are clearly related ideas, but they're not identical. What's the difference? People ask all the time. In this episode of New Discourses Bullets, host James Lindsay explains each of these concepts and how they differ from one another while offering some insights into other related concepts like Fabian Socialism and Fascism. Join him to increase your clarity on these issues.
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  • @cm22454
    @cm22454 Месяц назад +90

    Equity, when everyone is equally poor and starving equally.

    • @haraldbredsdorff2699
      @haraldbredsdorff2699 Месяц назад +11

      In a world, where everybody is dead, everybody is the same.
      I fear they might actually think that is a good goal, as long as everybody is equal.

    • @davidleehurt333
      @davidleehurt333 Месяц назад

      In the past, striving for equality of opportunity was a noble endeavor, but now the Social Justice Warriors want equality of outcome regardless of input or effort.

    • @Archmage9885
      @Archmage9885 Месяц назад

      That's not quite accurate. The ruling communist class always lives in luxury while forcing the peasants into poverty. Communists are the evil, greedy, selfish capitalists they pretend to hate.

    • @arizonahascactus9697
      @arizonahascactus9697 Месяц назад +3

      Yes, everyone buried at six feet deep. Not 5. Not 7. Six feet.

    • @Y2KNW
      @Y2KNW Месяц назад +2

      "We'll all be equal when we all have nothing."

  • @tomforsythe7024
    @tomforsythe7024 Месяц назад +50

    Socialism is communism saying "we can just cuddle."

    • @rochellecaffee1417
      @rochellecaffee1417 Месяц назад

      Do you really hate dogs that much??

    • @eb3222
      @eb3222 Месяц назад +1

      Capitalism is saying "everybody can make it".
      And that's not true because some decide what others get. If you believe that we can't "just cuddle": What are we doing in capitalism? (And I don't say that I believe in communism.)

    • @tomforsythe7024
      @tomforsythe7024 Месяц назад

      @@eb3222 Show me anyone, anywhere, who argued that "everybody can make it." That's a Marxist straw man, and a bit of Woke projection.
      It is the Marxist who claims to be able to provide everything to everyone.
      The conservative worldview is that life is hard, and always will be. Having the correct habits and attitudes (virtues) will make your life better.
      Among those virtues is charity. Help the poor and sick. Help widows and orphans. Voluntarily.

  • @chrishoff402
    @chrishoff402 Месяц назад +19

    Solzhenitsyn explained the difference between Socialism and Communism/Marxism this way, 'with Socialism you die more slowly'.

  • @TROOPERfarcry
    @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад +35

    I shouldn't have, but I came straight to the comments to see what's going on down here. I was pleasantly surprised to see a lot of variations about how they're all similar _AND_ bad. But then also disappointed to see the expected responses of people who don't know squat talking about "but that's WEIMAR Socialism, versus the distributism... integralism... inherent.... Prussian... Democratrism... _words-i-read-that-make-me-sound-smart, but-have-no-real-world-application."_
    One thing I've come to understand about anyone who pushes any one of those is that they share two qualities:
    1 - They believe that humanity can be improved...
    2 - ... and that they're further along than you are.
    All these potential kings without a kingdom, trying to brow-beat you with academia until you give them power and wealth.
    *Here is the most basic question: **_how come pro-socialists or pro-communists never approach you to GIVE you wealth and power? Why is it always FROM you TO them?_*
    *Here is another basic question: **_if any one of these was successful, then why are there alternatives at all?_*
    *Here is yet a third basic question: **_if any of these are an improvement, then why do people have to be FORCED into participating?_*

    • @Archmage9885
      @Archmage9885 Месяц назад +10

      Well said.

    • @hitandruncommentor
      @hitandruncommentor Месяц назад +6

      Yep. Simple fact is, the want to be the masters of the slaves, and be god.

    • @sandra-says-777
      @sandra-says-777 Месяц назад

      IMO, to answer all three of your questions: It’s because the woke are mal-adjusted narcissists who believe everyone else is the problem, not themselves.

    • @sandra-says-777
      @sandra-says-777 Месяц назад

      IMO, to answer all three of your questions: It’s because the woke are mal-adjusted narcissists who believe everyone else is the problem, not themselves.
      The only reasons these woke people get away with it is money to fund their protests and schools, and sheer charisma if they have it to dupe people.
      Also, if the woke don’t pay the consequences of their actions such as jail time and exposure of their lies, they will keep spreading their stupid ideology.

    • @Dano.G
      @Dano.G Месяц назад +3

      Because they know better than you, answer to all 3...

  • @JesusFriedChrist
    @JesusFriedChrist Месяц назад +35

    What’s the difference between poo, shit, and diarrhoea?
    💩 = 💩 = 💩

    • @SquirrelMaster69
      @SquirrelMaster69 Месяц назад +10

      One has more corn? 🐿️

    • @TROOPERfarcry
      @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад

      It's a tiny detail, but I always feel sweaty after blasting a watery shit.... that rarely happens with a plain-old-vanilla poop.
      Jokes aside, I whole-heartedly agree with your point.

    • @parrotshootist3004
      @parrotshootist3004 Месяц назад +1

      Put in a sandwich, baguette or panini and you have democracy. Choose a different wrap and filling each time. Still get a mouth full of ... Every time.

    • @rochellecaffee1417
      @rochellecaffee1417 Месяц назад

      I’m really tired guys…sorry, but i owe you no response. Why do YOU think that i MUST AGREE with the “Philosopher-in-charge”??? I don’t get that.

    • @rochellecaffee1417
      @rochellecaffee1417 Месяц назад

      Why is it SO DIFFICULT to allow “Rochelle” to be “Rochelle”???

  • @THEEMADDHEADDOCTOR
    @THEEMADDHEADDOCTOR Месяц назад +30

    The Differences Are Little To None Like The Words Jealous, Envious & Covetous...

  • @biggtoe90
    @biggtoe90 Месяц назад +7

    Ive been wanting this video for a long time. Its helpful to know the differences and i would like to know so i can communicate ideas in a more effective fashion

    • @jackdeniston6150
      @jackdeniston6150 Месяц назад

      Dont need it, Tyranny vs Freedom is the only categorisation. Everything else is jerking off.

  • @Witsius
    @Witsius Месяц назад +17

    Thus technocracy is a socialist utopian variant.

    • @cavi900
      @cavi900 Месяц назад +6

      @@theconceptofbass By controlling the means of production and its distribution through managerial government bureaucrats which the WEF and other think tanks believe can be organized and operated by scientific principles. It's a belief that a perfect society can be created through proper trans-national government regulations and laws, use of behavioral sciences 'nudge units' to condition the masses and getting the math of macro economics right.

  • @anthonybrakus5280
    @anthonybrakus5280 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you James for putting together very cogent reports on broad subjects. A person can engage your material casually or with great care confirming with research. You've launched many intellectual journeys in my mind and I want to appreciate you and thank you for sharing your talents with us. ❤🎉

  • @OrwellsHousecat
    @OrwellsHousecat Месяц назад +14

    No difference. Same people pushing same agenda

    • @TROOPERfarcry
      @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад +3

      "Would you like your feces with corn, hair, or plain?" _Me trying to make the best choice between socialism, communism, and Marxism._

  • @anng.4542
    @anng.4542 Месяц назад +13

    Utopian promises, with horrible results for all but those who rule.

  • @terrihamelin6125
    @terrihamelin6125 Месяц назад

    Thank you for clarifying this. So helpful, James. Going to share this.

  • @geoffbartlett8203
    @geoffbartlett8203 Месяц назад +2

    WOW....thank you for such a succinct simple definition 👏👏

  • @WednesdayFin86
    @WednesdayFin86 Месяц назад +6

    Hey as a Finn I'd like to hear your take on Nordic social democracy as it is fawned upon everywhere. I tell you there are some truly nasty stuff we need to do to make it work properly.

    • @xaviermagnus8310
      @xaviermagnus8310 Месяц назад +1

      Like that 80 percent unsolved removal rate?

    • @WednesdayFin86
      @WednesdayFin86 Месяц назад

      @@xaviermagnus8310 If you mean unsolved murder cases, that's Sweden's problem. We solve murders at a very high rate.

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 Месяц назад

      Nordic social programs are great except they rely on massive subsidies for defence from America, massive wealth deposits from natural resources, and highly homogeneous populations with compatible values. Lebanon can’t do it. Turkey can’t do it. South Africa can’t do it. Thailand can’t do it. Now? America can’t do either. 30 trillion has to be paid back somehow.

  • @markschmidt9142
    @markschmidt9142 Месяц назад +28

    Don't forget Fascism, they are all just minor variations of the same ideology.
    Communists weren't fighting Fascists because they were on opposite sides.
    They were both fighting for control of the progressive, socialist left.

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад

      Fascists are far-right.

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 Месяц назад +1

      The distinction is made at 15:30

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад +1

      That's simply not true. German and Italian fascists had a completely different voter base from German and Italian Socialists and Communists.

    • @davidleehurt333
      @davidleehurt333 Месяц назад

      ​@JackRichardsonM8 they are 2 sides of the she coin. It's even in their name National Socialists.

    • @abcdeshole
      @abcdeshole Месяц назад

      A fascist is an honest socialist.

  • @whateverhappenedtogarycoop4148
    @whateverhappenedtogarycoop4148 Месяц назад +3

    Well done James

  • @IntegralBif
    @IntegralBif Месяц назад +11

    Well said. I'm glad you mentioned national socialism/fascism at the end there. Important to recognize the kinship in ideology between them.

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад

      @@IntegralBif There is no "kinship in ideology" between fascists and socialists. They're both collectivist but fascists are far-right and socialists far-left.

    • @join_or_die
      @join_or_die Месяц назад +1

      @@JJRM8 lol "left" and "right" are meaningless unless you're in 1700's france. good try but don't be wrong next time

    • @dh510
      @dh510 Месяц назад

      ​@@JJRM8Nah.
      The left-right scale is basically useless.
      100-200 years ago, the "far right" would have been monarchists, who supported the ruling nobility and opposed anything which would have given any political power to the plebs.
      Socialists/Communists and fascists are pretty much the same, with the exception that one group bases their ideology on biology and "preexisting equality" determined by nationality and culture and therefore preselects who can participate in their collectivist "utopia".

    • @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
      @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle Месяц назад

      ​​@@JJRM8There is nothing "right" about fascism. I still can't believe how many people actually buy the idea that a type of socialist can be right wing..
      The entire ideology is left wing. The "fascism is right wing" is a propaganda campaign to distance the left from Hitler's atrocities
      It is simply another branch of the Marxist tree

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад

      ​@WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle Fascists are far-right. You do realise that if they are leftist that means virtually the entire population of Germany in the Weimar Republic were leftist. Patently absurd.

  • @user-oi9iz9jr8y
    @user-oi9iz9jr8y Месяц назад +2

    Well done James!

  • @HendrikdeBeer
    @HendrikdeBeer Месяц назад

    I always thought that was the answer. I never knew it was actually the case. For a long while I got the impression that socialists were the people saying, "We are not as bad as the Communists and Marxists! We are different".

  • @joebloggs339
    @joebloggs339 Месяц назад +9

    Love these bullets
    I guess that makes James a marksman, or is it a Marxman??

    • @piouswhale
      @piouswhale Месяц назад +5

      This is a good one haha. Thanks for the laugh

    • @NoobRideseMTB
      @NoobRideseMTB Месяц назад +2

      😏

    • @davidkahn3569
      @davidkahn3569 24 дня назад

      James' understanding of Marxism is at least on the level of the other Marxian greats: Groucho, Harpo, Chico...

  • @EdwinRichard-e9m
    @EdwinRichard-e9m Месяц назад +1

    Thank you. Very helpful.

  • @hanng1242
    @hanng1242 Месяц назад +9

    Haven't yet watched the video, but the answer is marketing. The difference between them is how they are marketed. One cannot sell one's evil ideology to useful idiots the same way as one would to fellow travelers.

    • @metalrules1135
      @metalrules1135 Месяц назад +3

      They also just rebrand things from time to time once a name gets a bad connotation connected to it.

    • @haraldbredsdorff2699
      @haraldbredsdorff2699 Месяц назад +2

      I would say it is more, how far out on the tree of developing, you find them.
      All Communist and Marxist are socialists, since socialist is the root of the idea.
      But not all socialists are Communist or Marxist, because you have other versions of socialism as well.
      Socialism is government control of the means of production.
      All Marxists are Communists, but not all Communists are Marxists, because you had a few other versions of Communism.
      Communism is the creation of a society where everything is communal owned.
      And Marxist, is the people who think Marx was correct, in how he imagined a perfect socialist communist society.

    • @davidleehurt333
      @davidleehurt333 Месяц назад

      Do you believe that Marx or the Frankfurt School intellectuals ever actually cared about the working-class or the plight of the disenfranchised? It seems to me that their intentions were always to use these groups to come to gradually gain power in these Institutions.

    • @haraldbredsdorff2699
      @haraldbredsdorff2699 Месяц назад

      @@davidleehurt333 Some of them, did care.
      They thought they knew the only way to create paradise on earth.
      And if you could save the working class from hell, and give them heaven,,, what would you not be willing to do?
      Of course, they are wrong, their ideas will create hell, not save people from it.
      But they do not see it that way.
      Of course, some of them, only do it for power. And since both are willing to lie for the cause, it is hard to separate them.

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 20 дней назад

    13:43 good video, watched it several times

  • @StarCityFAME
    @StarCityFAME Месяц назад +1

    The song "Woodstock" comes to mind...

  • @nocount1
    @nocount1 28 дней назад

    Thank you.

  • @babaana
    @babaana Месяц назад

    Thanks, this is a great breakdown.

  • @GaJiarg
    @GaJiarg Месяц назад +1

    One of the differences between socialism (as a philosophy) and communism (as a philosophy) is that socialism is a "genus", and communism (also known as scientific socialism) is a "species", among a number of other "species" of socialism. Socialism, in a generic sense, is any universalist doctrine, and it opposes any particularist and individualist doctrine.

  • @insperatus
    @insperatus 24 дня назад

    I asked Grok to create a summary based on the transcript:
    James Lindsay on his New Discourses Bullets podcast discusses the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism:
    Socialism: Defined as a system where the state owns the means of production, aiming for the equitable distribution of resources. The goal is to create "actual equality" or "equity" by redistributing not just material goods but also social and cultural capital.
    Communism: Described as a stateless, classless society where the means of production are owned communally by the people. There's no private property. Communism is seen as the ultimate goal after socialism, where the state "withers away," leading to a society functioning like one large family or commune. However, Lindsay points out that true communism has never been achieved in practice.
    Marxism: A theory that explains the transition from capitalism, through socialism, to communism. Marxists believe humans are naturally socialist but have been corrupted by private property leading to capitalism. The theory posits that capitalism will naturally lead to its own downfall due to economic contradiction, followed by a proletarian revolution to establish socialism, which should eventually evolve into communism without a state.
    Lindsay also introduces other socialist schools:
    Fabian Socialism: An approach to socialism that rejects violent revolution in favor of gradual, incremental change through infiltrating and changing institutions from within.
    Fascism: Highlighted as a model where socialism is practiced through a fusion of state and corporate power, not aiming for communism but rather a permanent state where the state and corporations manage everything together.
    Lindsay concludes that while theoretically, socialism and communism are distinct, in practice, the lines blur, especially since communism as an ideal has never been realized. He emphasizes the importance of understanding these distinctions to critique contemporary political ideologies, including what he refers to as "woke Marxism."

  • @nunyabizniz4556
    @nunyabizniz4556 Месяц назад +10

    Basically, its the same sh*t with different sprinkles.

  • @lucascarreon4983
    @lucascarreon4983 Месяц назад +1

    Pretty decent analysis, but I wanted to point out that Vladimir Lenin once said, “The goal of socialism is communism.” That is because it is simply an economic model where they set out on a goal of arriving to a point where everyone equally has enough stuff. In the Marxist worldview, it was based on a Hegelian belief of how economies develop overtime and will inevitably arrive at the period where everybody has enough stuff. However, it was Lenin who redefined what socialism and the proletariat actually meant. Because assuming the same Hegelian economic model, it makes no difference whether economies develop via violent revolution or through liberal reform. Because the Hegel laws of history argue that society will naturally develop to that point. With this in mind, it was Lenin who argued that the state represents the proletariat… and just as in the United States, where liberal democracy is supposed to represent the people, Lenin’s claim that the state represents the proletariat, therefore the government must take over the main of production was just a naïve Marxist belief that they can speed up the laws of history through violence and revolution. So in essence, socialism is a economic model that sets out to work with the government by taking over aspects of the means of production to democratically distribute throughout society, hoping that they arrive to the endpoint of history, the communist economy. But Marxism, or at least Marxism Leninism is the belief that they could speed up history by overthrowing the status quo, killing the elites, and seizing all of the land and private institutions overt time to fix inequality in our society.

  • @stephenmorris8557
    @stephenmorris8557 3 дня назад

    The people doing the redistribution need to be held accountable, even if they were just following orders.

  • @kaoskronostyche9939
    @kaoskronostyche9939 Месяц назад

    Thnaks James.

  • @codyharney2997
    @codyharney2997 9 дней назад +1

    In real life application never seen socialists, communists, or marxists giving up their wealth and personal belongs and devoting themselves to the bettering of others, but only demanding you and i give up OUR wealth and belongings and we should devote ourselves to the state. Seemingly wealthy people for "socialists" that usually work in capital markets where they have careers and jobs, loans and houses and cars they own 😂😂😂😂😂.

  • @nacetroy
    @nacetroy Месяц назад +5

    James it would be helpful to some if you'd do a streamlined explanation of why the ideas of Schmitt, Strauss, Heidegger, Dugin or other Woke Right favorites are incompatible with a free/Classical Liberal society, what the dangers of Distributism or Integralism are, etc.

  • @anthonybrett
    @anthonybrett Месяц назад +3

    Different branches of the same tree.

  • @xaviertaylor759
    @xaviertaylor759 Месяц назад +4

    Excellent clarification! Especially the point about the different schools.

  • @konberner170
    @konberner170 Месяц назад +5

    Best to just cut to the chase and realize that it is not possible for "everyone to own everything". If there is a bicycle then everyone cannot ride it at once. Who decides who gets to ride it? Whoever that is owns it. Everybody can't make the decision, so the base notion is a total joke.

  • @DavidSmith-mt7tb
    @DavidSmith-mt7tb Месяц назад

    I like that you made the distinction that in practice Socialism is not necessarily Communism. This gets complicated when we talk about individual political identities, as most "socialists" in liberal societies don't understand these distinctions themselves. It feels like there are many "democratic socialist" or "progressive" types who do seem to believe in the ideals of a liberal democracy and don't see these ideologies as incompatible. After all, if a liberal society decides to socialize roads, electricity, or medical care, they certainly can vote to do so. This doesn't make the alchemists trying to transform mankind into the socialist man necessarily. Yet it seems like many of the thought leaders among these groups have very Marxist beliefs. Is this the alt left pipeline seducing moderates into extremism like they blame the right for? If they aren't true socialists but rather just agree with them on certain policies from a liberal standpoint, you would think they would distance themselves from terms like socialism, which rightly gets demonized by the right.

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 Месяц назад

    "We are stardust
    We are golden
    And we've got to get ourselves
    Back to the garden"
    Woodstock Joni Mitchell

  • @daniellebcooper7160
    @daniellebcooper7160 Месяц назад +1

    same goal, different paths

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 Месяц назад

    Nonexistence is the only “absolute equality” I can think of for a very large group of people. Is there some other absolute I’m missing?

  • @diantonovich
    @diantonovich Месяц назад

    Pretty succinct 👌

  • @mustang607
    @mustang607 Месяц назад +1

    How can mankind be unburdened from these collectivist religions?

  • @Jersey-towncrier
    @Jersey-towncrier Месяц назад

    I think one subtle distinction that gets lost in everything is that, in Communism, the claim is made that the very concept of "ownership" has lost meaning so that forced redistribution is superfluous and thus the State and its law enforcement mechanisms are no longer justifiable. This is why the claim is made that the State will "wither away." "Forced redistribution" only has meaning in the context of a social environment that recognizes "private property." It goes back to Hegel's notion of "recognition" and the Master/Slave dialectic. As far as Marxism, I define that as the Religion of Atheism, or Protestantism taken to such an extreme that ot inverts on itself and becomes Christian license, using the moral concept of Charity to hoodwink people into accepting Secular Humanism with religious fanaticism and commitment.

  • @mycomage
    @mycomage Месяц назад +3

    They are used interchangeably by modern communists/socialists/Marxists

    • @matthewmchenry2889
      @matthewmchenry2889 Месяц назад

      Not really. Equity is the new euphemism generally, but people are beginning to associate that word with evil as well.

  • @rogercojones
    @rogercojones Месяц назад

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even if it got to the point where the state was no longer needed, they’d keep the power anyway.

  • @pedrosherpa5848
    @pedrosherpa5848 Месяц назад

    "If everything belongs to everyone, nothing belongs to no one. " Aristotle’s

  • @limop20
    @limop20 18 дней назад +1

    the concept reminds me of Islam and Djihad

  • @lorenzo6mm
    @lorenzo6mm Месяц назад +1

    DEMOCIDE
    infinitely more deadly than
    GENOCIDE
    see, Karl Marx
    😮😢

  • @johnjylanne7100
    @johnjylanne7100 Месяц назад +2

    All 3 flatten ambition by robbing people of action due to lack of motivation, resulting in a lack of innovation.

    • @caydee.m
      @caydee.m Месяц назад

      Love this response.

    • @nachtwandeling1237
      @nachtwandeling1237 Месяц назад

      Well, Russia brought man into space under communism.

  • @Tetranodal
    @Tetranodal Месяц назад +2

    Do people still comment 'first' anymore? Odd badge of honour

  • @YellowRambler
    @YellowRambler Месяц назад

    Would like to know your classification “Star Trek Federation Society” and possible governmental preferences change as technology advances. I’m pretty sure whatever happens mankind will find a way to mess it up.

  • @bobbybee2975
    @bobbybee2975 Месяц назад +4

    I like to be remind of the difference because to me there is no meaningful difference.

    • @TROOPERfarcry
      @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад +1

      In all seriousness, I've tried to Google this literally four times. The answer never 'sticks' in my mind, because it's always a distinction without a difference.

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto Месяц назад +1

      @@TROOPERfarcry Yep. The socialists and communists don't really understand the difference either. They quote Marx and go on about this or that part of the "theory," but in the end it's nothing but an incoherent ideology and the words are interchangeable.

    • @bobbybee2975
      @bobbybee2975 Месяц назад

      @@TROOPERfarcry its funny how people can see such huge differences in theory but the results are always the same...tyranny.

    • @TROOPERfarcry
      @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад

      @@Evil0tto Saw a quote the other day or year or whenever, "A Marxist is one who has read Marx... an _ANTI-_ Marxist is one who has _UNDERSTOOD_ Marx."
      Or as that one scientist said of communitsm/socialism-- _an entomologist, actually_ -- *"Great idea... **_wrong species."_*

  • @ayanamireizero
    @ayanamireizero Месяц назад +3

    Didn't Karl and engel said socialism and communism are the same?

    • @legion_sqd
      @legion_sqd Месяц назад +2

      used to be. Socialism was concepted when communism was. Communism was the goal, socialism was the road towards it. Everyone who was a socialist also was a communist. In their time it pretty much was the same, and making a difference was just hairsplitting. But that changed when people entered the scene who want socialism (the tool) on its own, but disregard communism (the goal).
      Now all of a sudden you have to differentiate between them because its relevant now.

    • @duitseles9687
      @duitseles9687 Месяц назад

      ​@@legion_sqd Thank you

    • @m-71tx26
      @m-71tx26 5 дней назад

      The difference between Socialism and Communism is that one kills you faster than the other.

  • @hitandruncommentor
    @hitandruncommentor Месяц назад +1

    Juat when i thought socialism couldnt get anymore insane.

  • @SquirrelMaster69
    @SquirrelMaster69 Месяц назад +4

    National Socialism is Socialism. 🐿️

  • @igorkarlic2297
    @igorkarlic2297 Месяц назад +1

    Babuška asked komesar in Moscow. I know how communism looks like. We have it. But how will socialism be like? When we reach the state of socialism all the stores will be loaded with meat and bread, komesar replied. Great. So it will be like at the times of the tsarist Russia. 😂

  • @joeblow411
    @joeblow411 Месяц назад +2

    Number of dead bodies

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Месяц назад

    The difference? The spelling.

  • @zerotwo7319
    @zerotwo7319 Месяц назад

    People need to understand. Religion is just a philosophy you pratice because you belive in it. This is how greeks view it.

  • @tomharger2573
    @tomharger2573 Месяц назад +1

    The difference is the spelling.

  • @mikelee9886
    @mikelee9886 Месяц назад +5

    My favorite meme expressing how some of this works, is the one of Anakin and Padme sitting together, and he says "I'm a socialist" and she smiles and says "oh me too, what kind of socialist?", and he gets this evil grin and says "national", and then it just shows her with this scared face, lol. Yes, both communism and fascism are socialist ideologies, with different end-states in mind. The communist believes that the socialism will be a stepping stone to communism, to communal living where no one owns anything, and there is no need for a state anymore, where the fascist just wants the socialist state to BE the end state. So, in the end, they really aren't very different in application, only in what they believe the outcome will be. And the funnier part, is that the people in charge CALLING themselves communists, never have any intention of relinquishing power and abolishing the state, so in reality, they are just fascists lying to everyone about what their intentions are.

    • @shmoving1977
      @shmoving1977 Месяц назад

      Very true. I personally am not sure if communists are liars who try to fool everyone or if they truly believe they can usher the paradise only to discover it's impossibility. And only then being finally fully corrupted and falling into fascism.

  • @majinflaco8353
    @majinflaco8353 Месяц назад

    Marxism is also a tool to critique capitalism.

  • @robert-parsifal-finch
    @robert-parsifal-finch Месяц назад +3

    The state run by the people owns the means of production..

  • @77dris
    @77dris Месяц назад

    So essentially communism has never existed and the soviet union was a socialist state.

  • @Killer_Kovacs
    @Killer_Kovacs Месяц назад +1

    So ultimately communism was a better socialist state than socialism.

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 Месяц назад

      We will never know because “real socialism was never tried” 😂

  • @iFParasit
    @iFParasit Месяц назад

    There isnt one, the end all 3 philosophies aee wealth and think theyre the ones best suited to distribute it differently.

  • @DontForgetOldKolobok
    @DontForgetOldKolobok Месяц назад +2

    Hair colour

  • @jamesplummer356
    @jamesplummer356 Месяц назад

    Time

  • @blackquiver
    @blackquiver 20 дней назад

    13:35 this is y their was a war in heaven..it's criminal that progresses a criminal intent to murder which goes against God

  • @adamnogender565
    @adamnogender565 Месяц назад

    Thanks James, Ive had a long ie 20+ years and intensive relationship with School of Philosophy. There has often been some wonderful and enlightening times then I started to realise that they wanted me to hook up with some ugly feminist and furthermore wanted my house too. Your podcasts have helped me alot re seeing this cult or quasicult for what it is :)

  • @dellonman
    @dellonman Месяц назад

    What’s the difference? Nothing. Marx used communism and socialism interchangeably.

  • @peterackerley1022
    @peterackerley1022 Месяц назад

    Sounds and plays out just like the advent of a new exclamatory religion. Has to be by design

  • @TreeLuvBurdpu
    @TreeLuvBurdpu Месяц назад +1

    You forgot democratism. See democratism info.

  • @AncientRylanor69
    @AncientRylanor69 Месяц назад +1

    4j

  • @decwow
    @decwow 27 дней назад

    Well, since the helicopter ride works the same for all of them.... I'd say: *_Who cares what the difference is._*

  • @purrrfectnarrative5201
    @purrrfectnarrative5201 Месяц назад

    Distilled NIGHTMARE

  • @TheAvatar3055
    @TheAvatar3055 Месяц назад

    You defined it on their terms which is useful, but really it's just losers hating winners.
    They lost the moment they assumed that power is the highest virtue.

  • @tamara6771
    @tamara6771 Месяц назад

    ⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️

  • @chrishoff402
    @chrishoff402 Месяц назад +1

    It's ironic reading Leviticus through Judges in the Old Testament and listening to the Marxist ideas about the state dissolving. Under the Theocrasy that existed between the crossing of the Jordan River and the crowning of Saul as the first Israeli king they had their own unique system that achieved everything the Communists wanted without the downsides. It also achieved everything Libertarians, Anarchists, and Capitalists wanted in a political and economic system. The land was evenly divided up among the people in the beginning, it was handed down from father to son in perpetuity. A man was the sovereign of his private property, and a land sale was nothing more than a lease that could never run past the jubilee year that happened every 50 years. In that Jubilee year all outstanding debts were declared null and void, all bondsmen returned to the land of their forefathers. There was no king, no elected body, so no political parties. A 10% tithe was collected by the priests once a year to provide for the poor and sick. There was no standing army, every man was a reservist, any military action could only take place after being sanctioned by the priests. The law was enforced by judges chosen locally on the formula of pick the guy that didn't want the job the most. Rights and the Law came from God and not a constitution or state government. I consider that ancient system superior to all that has been proposed and implemented ever since.

  • @nachtwandeling1237
    @nachtwandeling1237 Месяц назад +2

    Your definition of socialism isn't broad enough and sounds like the one Marxists have come up with and that has become popular. Socialism is way older and broader than Marxism. It also includes variants in which the State doesn't necessarily own the means of production. E.g. German/National/Prussian/Arabic/Ba'atist socialism.
    Your description of Fascism is very superficial and sounds like one that a Libertarian or Marxist would make.

    • @haraldbredsdorff2699
      @haraldbredsdorff2699 Месяц назад +1

      He did have a expanded version of socialism.
      "Government control of the means of production", is what the fascists had.
      The factories was not owned by the state.
      But if the state told them to do something, they would still have to do it, or the factory would be taken away from them and "given" to somebody else.
      That is why fascism is a type of socialism, but not a version of communism or marxism.
      Communism believe everything should be communal owned. Fascists did not claim that.
      And marxists are people who think Marx was correct, while the fascists claimed Marx was wrong.
      Non of these ideas are good,,, or even working.

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад

      ​@haraldbredsdorff2699 Fascists are collectivists, that isn't the same as Socialist collectivism. Quite the opposite.

    • @MaterialismIsASpiritualDeadEnd
      @MaterialismIsASpiritualDeadEnd Месяц назад

      @JackRichardsonM8 What he said was quite correct, even though they are opposites in many of the cultural aspects.

    • @JJRM8
      @JJRM8 Месяц назад

      ​@@MaterialismIsASpiritualDeadEndAnd economic aspects. In fact in all aspects. Fascists are far-right, Socialists and Communists are far-left.

    • @MaterialismIsASpiritualDeadEnd
      @MaterialismIsASpiritualDeadEnd 13 дней назад

      @JJRM8 Well there are different philosophically, that's really what matters most when it comes to differentiating worldviews, or political "ideology". Economics are not end-all be-all relevant when it comes to worldview or political differentiation or similarities and there can be similarities on that front or those aspects, and on the economical aspects they can be opposites too. BTW when it comes to economics we as traditionalists, not fascists are largely indifferent. Fascists and H**lerite natsocs tend to be indifferent on economics too. But at the same time worldviews like national bolshevism, national syndicalism, peronism, ba'thism, national maoism and strasserism exist. And North Korea's Juche ideology and the dengist Ideology of post-maoist-modern China and the post Stalin soviet union, Pol potism are similar to the former ideologies I referenced and only an intellectual difficient would claim any of those ideologies or worldviews are economically right wing/capitalist past a few minor aspects at the most. Well China nowadays might kinda be the exception, maybe a little more capitalistic than just a few aspects.

  • @chinocracy
    @chinocracy 29 дней назад

    All of these seem to just be derivatives of monism, which says we are all supposed to be one being instead of many separate beings. Believing in monism means denying or defying reality, that you and I are different people and what you think is not what I think, and that's OK. Monism could also mean we exist as separate beings but have one mind, a hive mind. That is still defiance of reality. For me, the main enemy of Christianity and reality is monism.
    I think that this also derives from millennia of Biblical misinterpretation, such as the ideas that Eden was a primordial jungle, Adam and Eve were Tarzan and Jane, and primitivism is the state of Heaven. Read the ideas of Michael Heiser, those were most likely the right interpretations of the BIble. That ancient tribes were all communal property was a serious misconception prevalent during the times before Marx, and Marx picked that up. Today, there is a need to correct all those conceptions and undo pro-monistic propaganda.

    • @sebastiansirvas1530
      @sebastiansirvas1530 10 дней назад

      Depends on the context. Monism when talking about ontology just means that there is only one ultimate substance (be it materialism, idealism, neutral monism, etc.)

  • @broadkast477
    @broadkast477 Месяц назад

    *See Trudeau's Canada.

  • @itburnswheneyepee3228
    @itburnswheneyepee3228 Месяц назад +3

    James please explain how “Woke” can exist in Conservative circles when Conservatism is antithetical to Critical Theory.

    • @BurghezulDjentilom
      @BurghezulDjentilom Месяц назад

      he can't, and he won't

    • @carlos_takeshi
      @carlos_takeshi Месяц назад +2

      He can, and he has. Just do a search for his name and woke right and you can find interviews with him explaining exactly how it works.

    • @Stormmblade
      @Stormmblade Месяц назад

      I can't even say it without my comment vanishing into the ether.
      Wokeness = idpol
      And there are people on the Right who are upset that their particular special interest groups aren't the ones getting the special treatment.
      Though I disagree with how widespread he thinks they are. Most of them we read about are either misunderstood or Feds

    • @itburnswheneyepee3228
      @itburnswheneyepee3228 Месяц назад

      @ yes I’ve watched his explanation. But critical theory is about destroying western civilization and Conservatism is about preserving western civilization. These are antithetical goals which can’t exist simultaneously.

    • @sirellyn
      @sirellyn Месяц назад +1

      Because some people on the right are using
      "the ends justify the means" (Remember Bush?) or
      Oppression dynamics, or power dynamics, or power over truth, or arguing reality through the dialectic, or even arguing supremacy of the state.
      In other words, people "right" people are using the same engine that communism is, and calling themselves right wing.

  • @BurghezulDjentilom
    @BurghezulDjentilom Месяц назад

    I dunno man, tell us more about that "woke right" thing

  • @marshmellowbit3
    @marshmellowbit3 Месяц назад +1

    Not sure if "New Discourses" is the correct channel name if I am just going to hear Republican talking points from 60+ years ago

  • @robert-parsifal-finch
    @robert-parsifal-finch Месяц назад +1

    One happy giant family!! You talk a lot of rubish. A great variety of people of various capacities , etc. Read something that does not tickle your fancy.....

    • @CJ-gv6bq
      @CJ-gv6bq Месяц назад +1

      If you think his views are inadequate then possibly provide another resource that you feel would be more accurate instead of insulting his work.

    • @robert-parsifal-finch
      @robert-parsifal-finch Месяц назад

      Yes, too many idiots are around criticizing socialism.

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto Месяц назад +1

      Do you have an actual argument to make?

  • @alfredkwaak
    @alfredkwaak Месяц назад

    It's funny how the channels name is New discourses but the content is old propaganda. :D

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto 11 дней назад +1

      What did he say that was factually incorrect? Did you even bother watching the video or are you just responding like that because you don't like the title?

    • @alfredkwaak
      @alfredkwaak 11 дней назад

      @@Evil0tto propaganda isn't a lie, it is about creating image you want the perciever to think like. They create associations of these political movements and fill the gaps they cant prove with assumptions or just separating the movement from reality and explaining it as it is written in a 1850's dictionary.

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto 10 дней назад +1

      @ Do I need to repeat the question? You went out of your way to say nothing at all. There’s nothing in your comment relating to one word in this video. Hell, by your “definition” what you wrote was pure, unfiltered propaganda. You’re attempting to create the image you want me to think like. You have no specific criticisms. I will repeat that I don’t believe you even watched the video.

    • @alfredkwaak
      @alfredkwaak 10 дней назад

      @@Evil0tto 2 weeks ago, i can try to recall exact quotes in timeline later.

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto 10 дней назад

      @ Come on. It's not difficult to "recall" _something_ about the video. Anything. My point stands. You accuse it of being "propaganda" but won't say WHY. You've only given the most vague of responses when I asked that question. Or hell, just make an argument. Any argument.

  • @bc5cd
    @bc5cd 20 дней назад

    Any interest in talking about Loxism Mr. Shabbos?