She turned out beautifully, and the sound is heavenly. Your customer was blessed to have you perform such a painstakingly thorough and passionate restoration. God bless, BLB
You have done a phenomenal restoration on that black beauty snare. it looks fabulous. excellent work on the laquer throughout the restoration. Years ago I used Ferees gold saxophone laquer on a drum. was a good product to use. Not sure if it's still available.
Thank you, Gerald. Yes Ferrees still has the Nikolas 2105 gold. I did use some Ferrees gold dye, plus a few other tints to get the tone I wanted. The Nikolas was a little too yellow for my taste, so browns and red was added. Some German stuff our string guys had.
Ok I dream of finding a drum like that for 8 dollars. Keeping it as close to what it was new is the respect it deserves, as a playing drum or not. Absolutely Beautiful!
Excellent! I’m not a gold hardware guy... but WOW! that looks great! I’ve always wanted a black beauty, this looks stunning. 😊 I have a very similar era Ludwig drum but in wood. Where can I get lugs (chrome) that go over the hoops? Mine are all broken. I’ve had this drum for 35 yrs. I was eyeing it all four years of high school so... I offered to buy it at the end of my senior year, my band teacher said “just take it”. My neighbors finally need to hear this drum!!! 😂
Number screws: SAE for "Standard Automotive Engineering" and if you have a #4 that nothing will fit that is a pre-automotive age "Franklin" system size and no it's not for Benjamin Franklin. It's a 19th century machine, small arms & stove size screw sizing system. I find the Franklin screws on old Slingerland stuff.
Super job, Jim! So, you did not re-plate the copper and just lacquered the bare brass? I just acquired my dream drum. A 20's DeLuxe, engraved with the 12 pedal floral pattern. It also came from Wisconsin, by the way. I assume you sprayed the lacquer, but what did you do with the throw off? Were you able to dismantle it? Anyway, I could sure use some guidance on restoring my drum. Thanks and best of luck. Kevin
Wow Jim! What a beautiful drum! I love it … great work! So all the parts are original except that snare throw arm? It sounds like a 20s drum for sure! I love my modern black beauty snare drums! I imagine this drum would still sell in the thousands of dollar range … even restored! Awesome work Jim!
Thanks Earl! Yes all original except that throw arm, heads and the gut snares. My belief is that these gems should be restored unless in really good shape. But that's my opinion. If I set it up with modern snares and such, this could really sound great in pop music, jazz - whatever,
Help! I have a Ludwig NOB 6.5x14 snare that I'm wanting to restore. Is there a particular kind of snare wires that you would recommend? Thanks for your time and expertise! Great video!
It depends on the kind of sound you are wanting. Gut snare wires will be that sound of the 20's. Very dry and articulate. Modern chrome plated steel 16 or 20 strand wires will give you plenty of sizzle that I personally love and the sensitivity. Lots of guys obsess about snare wires and spend a tone of money on all the boutique stuff trying 3 or 4 different kinds. I have never found anything that I like better than good old Snappy Snares that run $10.00 or there about. It is what Ludwig used (there own version) I could never tell the difference between name brand and the generic. But that's what I like. Puresound and all the rest...…, how much can a person tell in response, frequency and touch? If you can, then it's $50.00 well spent. I just have never found anything that I like better than chrome plated Snappys. Trying 3 or 4 types gets you into the place where it is money that is truly disposable.
@@jimflys2 Thanks for the in-depth response. There is a good deal for me to think about here... In truth I was leaning towards just plain old 20 strand steel snares but I didn't want to take away from the integrity of the instrument and/or unintentionally commit a serious percussionist faux pas... You know, kinda like going to a gourmet restaurant and ordering a hot dog... There's just some stuff you should know better than to do. What I gather from your response is that you wouldn't consider it a faux pas to use plain old 20 strand and I agree with you. I really appreciate the time you took to respond. Thanks again! Oh... one other thing. Do you know where I could purchase clips for the single flange hoops that are on these old drums?
Give me a time where you see it. If the bottom of drum at the snare gate, that is intentional and was created that way before they had a new technique to make snare beds. I don't recall a dent on the bearing edge of this drum. ??
@@jimflys2 oh woah! That’s wild! Yeah that’s what I was thinking was a serious dent. Okay with that out of the way, how do you think you would go about dent removal in a metallic drum?
Patrick, I think this was round $1500. Actually a bit less than that, but he tipped me well since he was so very appreciative and delighted on how it turned out. I gladly accepted that gracious appreciation. And indeed my bill was already adjusted downward since I spent more time experimenting with tinting the lacquer. So I shouldered some of the cost myself to be fair.
She turned out beautifully, and the sound is heavenly. Your customer was blessed to have you perform such a painstakingly thorough and passionate restoration. God bless, BLB
Thank you very much! I appreciate all your comments
Any one for sale that you might know ?
@@Uzziel_lay_drums I've seen a couple on e bay but not much to write home about
The iconic sound of every drummer's dream.
This is the kind of find that I hope to come across someday. Wonderful job, thanks for restoring this drum.
Looks good.
sounds great
Beauty is right!🥁❤
You have done a phenomenal restoration on that black beauty snare. it looks fabulous. excellent work on the laquer throughout the restoration. Years ago I used Ferees gold saxophone laquer on a drum. was a good product to use. Not sure if it's still available.
Thank you, Gerald. Yes Ferrees still has the Nikolas 2105 gold. I did use some Ferrees gold dye, plus a few other tints to get the tone I wanted. The Nikolas was a little too yellow for my taste, so browns and red was added. Some German stuff our string guys had.
Nice work!
Thanks!
Ok I dream of finding a drum like that for 8 dollars. Keeping it as close to what it was new is the respect it deserves, as a playing drum or not. Absolutely Beautiful!
Thank you! I agree.
Excellent job thanks for making a video about it!
Glad you liked it!
Now that is a work of art Jim!
Thanks Craig! Yes, sweet drum :)
I've been looking for one...
Check the Chicago drum show jn May.
Excellent! I’m not a gold hardware guy... but WOW! that looks great! I’ve always wanted a black beauty, this looks stunning. 😊 I have a very similar era Ludwig drum but in wood. Where can I get lugs (chrome) that go over the hoops? Mine are all broken. I’ve had this drum for 35 yrs. I was eyeing it all four years of high school so... I offered to buy it at the end of my senior year, my band teacher said “just take it”. My neighbors finally need to hear this drum!!! 😂
You can get new over the hoop claws on line. Try Precision drum company on line or Drum Factory Direct. They both sell those kinds of things.
Number screws: SAE for "Standard Automotive Engineering" and if you have a #4 that nothing will fit that is a pre-automotive age "Franklin" system size and no it's not for Benjamin Franklin. It's a 19th century machine, small arms & stove size screw sizing system. I find the Franklin screws on old Slingerland stuff.
Cool to know.
That's sweet!
Thanks. A real honor to work on such a cool drum.
Wow!!!
Yhankx!
Super job, Jim! So, you did not re-plate the copper and just lacquered the bare brass? I just acquired my dream drum. A 20's DeLuxe, engraved with the 12 pedal floral pattern. It also came from Wisconsin, by the way. I assume you sprayed the lacquer, but what did you do with the throw off? Were you able to dismantle it? Anyway, I could sure use some guidance on restoring my drum. Thanks and best of luck. Kevin
Wow Jim! What a beautiful drum! I love it … great work! So all the parts are original except that snare throw arm? It sounds like a 20s drum for sure! I love my modern black beauty snare drums! I imagine this drum would still sell in the thousands of dollar range … even restored! Awesome work Jim!
Thanks Earl! Yes all original except that throw arm, heads and the gut snares. My belief is that these gems should be restored unless in really good shape. But that's my opinion. If I set it up with modern snares and such, this could really sound great in pop music, jazz - whatever,
Help! I have a Ludwig NOB 6.5x14 snare that I'm wanting to restore. Is there a particular kind of snare wires that you would recommend?
Thanks for your time and expertise! Great video!
It depends on the kind of sound you are wanting. Gut snare wires will be that sound of the 20's. Very dry and articulate. Modern chrome plated steel 16 or 20 strand wires will give you plenty of sizzle that I personally love and the sensitivity. Lots of guys obsess about snare wires and spend a tone of money on all the boutique stuff trying 3 or 4 different kinds. I have never found anything that I like better than good old Snappy Snares that run $10.00 or there about. It is what Ludwig used (there own version) I could never tell the difference between name brand and the generic. But that's what I like. Puresound and all the rest...…, how much can a person tell in response, frequency and touch? If you can, then it's $50.00 well spent. I just have never found anything that I like better than chrome plated Snappys. Trying 3 or 4 types gets you into the place where it is money that is truly disposable.
@@jimflys2 Thanks for the in-depth response. There is a good deal for me to think about here... In truth I was leaning towards just plain old 20 strand steel snares but I didn't want to take away from the integrity of the instrument and/or unintentionally commit a serious percussionist faux pas... You know, kinda like going to a gourmet restaurant and ordering a hot dog... There's just some stuff you should know better than to do. What I gather from your response is that you wouldn't consider it a faux pas to use plain old 20 strand and I agree with you.
I really appreciate the time you took to respond. Thanks again!
Oh... one other thing. Do you know where I could purchase clips for the single flange hoops that are on these old drums?
@@franklinbumgartener1323 drumfactorydirect.com is a great. I think they have them. Dfd for short.
How would you go about addressing that dinger of a dent on the bearing edge?
Give me a time where you see it. If the bottom of drum at the snare gate, that is intentional and was created that way before they had a new technique to make snare beds. I don't recall a dent on the bearing edge of this drum. ??
@@jimflys2 oh woah! That’s wild! Yeah that’s what I was thinking was a serious dent. Okay with that out of the way, how do you think you would go about dent removal in a metallic drum?
What was the final cost to restore? Ballpark.
Patrick, I think this was round $1500. Actually a bit less than that, but he tipped me well since he was so very appreciative and delighted on how it turned out. I gladly accepted that gracious appreciation. And indeed my bill was already adjusted downward since I spent more time experimenting with tinting the lacquer. So I shouldered some of the cost myself to be fair.
@@jimflys2 absolutely beautiful!
Where in the world did you find that gem?
In a garage, laying on the floor. Brought to me for restoration.
You wanna do mine?
Sure can! Hit me up at jhuwe@ward-brodt.com We can discuss.
@@jimflys2 ruclips.net/video/3HOa7tXVM5Q/видео.html
DDDDDAAAAMMMMM bro, U R 1 talented pro bro. I'm impressed, Thank You !
Thank you very much!