Identifying Luck: Mario Party 4

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  • @zoomzike
    @zoomzike  3 года назад +417

    CORRECTIONS:
    I'm bound to make a few mistakes with a video of this much length. If you find any issues then feel free to let me know and I'll correct them down below, along with giving you credit!
    18:07 (And other roulette occurrences) Waiting an entire minute will result in the pointing automatically landing on the bottom player, great if you're not confident at timing it yourself! (Pat)
    20:21 - Mashing A when using the MiniMega Hammer will get you whatever mushroom you first see, _not_ a Mega Mushroom every time! (ZoomZike)
    36:59 - You actually can check the map if you tell Toad "Yes" first and then click "View Map" (Analbag)
    42:49 - The star that's to the left of the right banana junction is actually to the right of the Pineapple happening space (i.imgur.com/fhudCMf.png) (Volt Serg)
    52:55 - Paying 20 coins does not "guarantee" you getting into the zone with the star, as I made it sound, it simply increases your odds _dramatically_ . (CowboyJoseph64)
    1:25:25 - Koopa Kid has a SLIGHT chance to actually give you what you want! The strat should remain the same though. (Tarvould)
    1:44:44 - I say "Candlelight Fright" instead of "Candlelight Flight" (Nibbles)
    1:45:43 - I say "five inputs" instead of "six inputs (Nibbles)

  • @Eggs5232
    @Eggs5232 3 года назад +1146

    That horrible moment when Chance Time is actually Chance Time

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +251

      Chills

    • @oneheckofabanana2016
      @oneheckofabanana2016 3 года назад +66

      …does not exist in this game. It's not Chance Time, it's Reversal of Fortune. That's totally different. One has a pachinko machine and the other does not.

    • @Eggs5232
      @Eggs5232 3 года назад +56

      @@oneheckofabanana2016 don't care if it's a thing where someone randomly fucks someone over it is objectively chance time

    • @oneheckofabanana2016
      @oneheckofabanana2016 3 года назад +65

      @@Eggs5232 This is the first time that I've seen someone refer to opportunistic rape as "chance time".

    • @Eggs5232
      @Eggs5232 3 года назад +61

      @@oneheckofabanana2016 yikes ok then

  • @breadmilkYT
    @breadmilkYT 3 года назад +540

    Ironically the first party that doesn't call it Chance Time is the only one which is actually chance

    • @PipeGuy64Bit
      @PipeGuy64Bit 3 года назад +29

      Well the Chance Time in 5 and 6 is way too fast to aim any so "only one" is technically wrong.

    • @danielmallory4687
      @danielmallory4687 3 года назад +19

      @@PipeGuy64Bit no technically they're right but in practice you are

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 3 года назад +11

      @@danielmallory4687 i think you meant “in theory” rather than “technically”

    • @danielmallory4687
      @danielmallory4687 3 года назад +3

      @@tonyhakston536 technically means right for the wrong reasons which was my meaning

    • @tonyhakston536
      @tonyhakston536 3 года назад +20

      @@danielmallory4687 Incorrect. ‘Technically’ means according to facts or exact definition. _Everything_ that is objectively correct is also technically correct as a prerequisite.
      As soon as the outcome is _possible_ to control, rather than merely influence, it technically stops being chance, even if it’s more practical to pretend it is.

  • @lucabrooks4519
    @lucabrooks4519 3 года назад +471

    Everyone: It'S nOt FoUr HoUrS lOnG
    Me: The thing I've waited 182 days for is finally here

    • @markymark443
      @markymark443 3 года назад +23

      I'm part of both groups of people lol. I was wondering why it's not 4 hours long but at the same time am happy to finally see it here!

    • @ruzgar2289
      @ruzgar2289 3 года назад +2

      @bailey brooks same

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 3 года назад +2

      same

    • @polarbearhugger
      @polarbearhugger 3 года назад +1

      Blink

    • @PipeGuy64Bit
      @PipeGuy64Bit 3 года назад +15

      @@markymark443 Well less items, less less minigames, less board spaces including no duel spaces at all would cause this to be shorter.
      Mario Party 5 has more minigames, more items and new item system which also means more spaces, duels return and 7 boards. It should definetly be a longer video so don't worry but this might mean a longer wait for the video too.

  • @retromint
    @retromint 3 года назад +231

    "You're relying on Reversal of Fortune?! The most random thing in this random game?!"
    -ProtonJon

  • @CrystalTheErudite
    @CrystalTheErudite 3 года назад +703

    I'm sad it's not 4 hours...
    1) For the continuity
    2) I like listening to you

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 3 года назад +19

      based

    • @CrystalTheErudite
      @CrystalTheErudite 3 года назад +5

      @@aturchomicz821 Dude what?

    • @PipeGuy64Bit
      @PipeGuy64Bit 3 года назад +48

      I understand the joke but it was obvious there was less to talk about due to less items, less minigames and less types of board spaces than Mario Party 3. Mario Party 5 might exceed 3 hours though.

    • @rayquazathenoodledragon9630
      @rayquazathenoodledragon9630 3 года назад +7

      Mario party is shorter than Mario party 3 in most aspects

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +91

      I wish it could be 4 hours haha

  • @arcticdino1650
    @arcticdino1650 3 года назад +98

    DK's echoing cry as he fell on that last minigame is haunting

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 2 года назад +31

      Its almost as if he was falling out of the roster until 10

    • @adamussutekh9434
      @adamussutekh9434 29 дней назад

      @@goldenhydreigon4727new lore unlocked

  • @reallycoolbird
    @reallycoolbird 3 года назад +472

    This has to be a lie it isn't 4 hours long.

    • @diegonals
      @diegonals 3 года назад +89

      If you see it at 0.5x speed it is

    • @fuzzycucumbers5476
      @fuzzycucumbers5476 3 года назад +26

      @@diegonals BROOOOOOOO

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +52

      D:

    • @hicalebih8902
      @hicalebih8902 3 года назад +14

      D. Sánchez Barreras - I’m saved! Thank you, you have allowed me to have the full experience

    • @Katt-ci6gw
      @Katt-ci6gw 3 года назад +3

      Watch it twice!

  • @Subpar1224
    @Subpar1224 3 года назад +142

    8:00 "hopefully into something you want"
    Lands in the give two star, to yoshi from Mario, as Zike is playing Mario (ouch)

  • @Sonicstriforce
    @Sonicstriforce 3 года назад +180

    After playing this game SO much as a kid with my brother/friends, I have to say:
    *The Pinball Chance Time Rant was something I didn't know I needed in my life.*

    • @GMKGoji01
      @GMKGoji01 Месяц назад

      I thought the “Chance Time” in Mario Party 4 only defaults to coin swap, but I once saw the Party Crashers find their way through that problem, screwing Vernias over. And making him whine like a sore loser in the process… Ouch.

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch 3 года назад +28

    I love how this Mario party kinda made it canon that Koopa is trying to make a Resort/Hotel and Goomba is a casino owner.

  • @dethan4176
    @dethan4176 3 года назад +65

    I’ve had Bowser’s bigger blast go on for 5+ minutes. That was the most tense moment in my life

    • @ryanharo9552
      @ryanharo9552 3 года назад +16

      I think the longest my friends and I were ever in that situation for as kids playing Mario Party 2 was 13 turns for round 1.
      We did once have a game of the chomp merry go round go for 20 rounds with only two people left. The kicker is that the winner would get the coin star and win that game. My friend and I were tied for stars and weren't able to get another one the next (final) turn.

  • @nickkelley9139
    @nickkelley9139 3 года назад +150

    Okay, that chance time rant was simultaneously the most hilarious and agonizing thing. Hilarious because of your general tone, agonizing because they took what was once one of the biggest game changers that could win you the game if you knew how to play it, and turning it into complete randomness.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 3 года назад +20

      Ok but I mean it was always intended to be _literally random_ you can't fault the devs for working to ensure every player has an equal chance of being screwed and not just the ones who dont know the tricks

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 2 года назад +14

      I mean to be fair it was always intended to be random, they just actually made sure it was up to chance this time instead of being something you can exploit, since being able to actually rely on Chance Time is more of an issue than anything, because it goes against the very namesake of the event.

  • @princesse-izzy
    @princesse-izzy 3 года назад +124

    When talking about the teacups at 33:40 almost three years ago I actually was stuck at that area throughout 20 out of 25 turns. I’m not joking. I was in so much pain during this area. I racked up 100 coins because there’s only the blue spaces and winning the mini games, and I kept getting mega mushrooms in hopes I’d finally be able to get out but NOPE. I thankfully got out during the 5th to last turn, bought a lamp, got the star, had the star spawn closer to me and got a star again, stole a star, and almost got another lamp. I tied with my boyfriend (3 stars each) and managed to win by coins, by about 100 more coins than him all thanks to being stuck at the start with all those blue spaces + winning the majority of the mini games. I won... but at what cost? My sanity 😔
    Great video overall! I’m so happy to have these Mario party videos that go more in depth into the series!

    • @AnimatedCake13
      @AnimatedCake13 2 года назад +8

      I am truly sorry for the lost of your sanity

    • @WilhelmScreamer
      @WilhelmScreamer 2 года назад +7

      Agony

    • @KyleEvra
      @KyleEvra 8 месяцев назад +3

      It really is a poor board design.

  • @Chaud31423
    @Chaud31423 3 года назад +98

    Interesting idea: The Gadd Light having negative effects if you try to use Boo while it is in your inventory.
    Either the Boo won't let you use him, or will charge you more for having it.

    • @xarshoon7157
      @xarshoon7157 3 года назад +4

      Ok that’d be cool

    • @Chaud31423
      @Chaud31423 3 года назад +12

      @@xarshoon7157 Right? You can even dispose of the Gadd Light for no effect.
      So you could ditch it if you REALLY need to visit Boo on the same turn.

    • @xarshoon7157
      @xarshoon7157 3 года назад +11

      Chaud314231 adds a level of strategy behind if you hold onto the item or tossing it for use with Boo
      Save yourself or steal and it makes revenge stealing a better option

  • @AdrianWoodUK
    @AdrianWoodUK 3 года назад +98

    17:26 - On the Super Mini Mushroom: "By basically letting you roll your normal dice..."
    That's... Not quite true. This series is all about getting those small circumstantial statistical advantages, and there's one here that isn't being explored.
    First, rolling two dice instead of one guarantees you won't move one space, useful if you're right before something you don't want to land on. Second, rolling multiple dice alters the probability of landing a certain number of steps away from being a linear distribution, to a bell curve.
    There's only one way, with two dice, to move 2 spaces: 1+1. But to move, say, 6 spaces, there are 5 possibilities: 1+5, 2+4, 3+3, 4+2 and 5+1. You're 5x as likely to hit a spot 6 spaces away than one 10 spaces away. In fact, you have a better than 50% shot of landing either 5, 6 or 7 spaces away. So if it would really help to roll that far, this is perfect.
    The same applies to anything that lets you roll multiple dice: you're guaranteed to skip at least the first space ahead, and are far more likely to land at midrange than if you were rolling one big dice.
    (Edit: corrected the "50% shot of landing" bit. Thanks to Emily for the heads-up on that!)

    • @Piemanding
      @Piemanding 3 года назад +3

      Dang I just made a similar comment. Yours is explained a little better. Hope he sees it.

    • @Drawoon
      @Drawoon 3 года назад +5

      I was about to say the same thing. Here's some more specifics: rolling normal dice you have a 10% chance for each number. The Super Mini Mushroom changes this to:
      1: 0%
      2: 4%
      3: 8%
      4: 12%
      5: 16%
      6: 20%
      7: 16%
      8: 12%
      9: 8%
      10: 4%
      You can memorise these and calculate on the fly, or you can remember a few specific things like your chances for rolling 1,2,3,9 or 10 get lower and chances for rolling 4,5,6,7 or 8 get higher. There's about a 1/4 chance to roll 2,3 or 4, 1/2 to roll 5,6 or 7, and 1/4 to roll 8,9 or 10.

    • @Drawoon
      @Drawoon 3 года назад +1

      "In fact, you have a better than 50% shot of landing either 4, 5 or 6 spaces away."
      I'm sure you meant 5, 6 or 7

    • @AdrianWoodUK
      @AdrianWoodUK 3 года назад +2

      @@Drawoon Quite right, thanks for the correction :)
      Five ways of rolling 6, four each for 5 or 7, means 5+4+4 =13/25 chance of getting one of those, on two 5-sided dice.

    • @Drawoon
      @Drawoon 3 года назад +1

      @@AdrianWoodUK np :)

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 3 года назад +922

    I was just starting to run out of Mario Party videos to watch during my morning cardio, thanks man! I can't wait to watch this!

    • @sonicthepineapple2080
      @sonicthepineapple2080 3 года назад +47

      Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! You helped the RUclips algorithm

    • @m.c.ravioli1521
      @m.c.ravioli1521 3 года назад +5

      Hahaha

    • @somestranger4287
      @somestranger4287 3 года назад +4

      POG

    • @lxagamer3380
      @lxagamer3380 3 года назад +22

      But which fossil did uou pick?

    • @Tippex_Official
      @Tippex_Official 3 года назад +9

      Oh hi Mah-Dry-Bread. Which fossil did youngster joey pick up on his rattata run, and did it help the youtube algorithm to add more twitter plugs?

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 3 года назад +413

    This video could easily be qualified as a legitimate movie in theaters... if you're into learning about Mario Party
    In this essay I will explain why Identifying Luck: Mario Party 4 is one of the best feature-length films of the--

    • @huhneat1076
      @huhneat1076 3 года назад +16

      I would watch this in theaters

    • @vundesheart8835
      @vundesheart8835 3 года назад +20

      It can be qualified as a documentary! :)

    • @VolatileViolet
      @VolatileViolet 3 года назад +7

      Does this mean we can expect a film from you that dives into the passion ZoomZike puts in this series?

    • @Elec.Balloon
      @Elec.Balloon 3 года назад +2

      Did you make that profile picture?
      Edit: Idk, just wondering.

    • @burntcookie2542
      @burntcookie2542 3 года назад +2

      you again

  • @tangentingtangerines5709
    @tangentingtangerines5709 3 года назад +79

    A few years back I was playing Mario Party 4 with my younger cousin, about half my age. We were on the Toad's Midway Madness stage, and having a great time, I think we had the same amount of stars, and I had a crapload of coins, but it was still pretty neck and neck. I was in the top of the board on the path to boo, and a star had spawned right behind boo. I rolled an 8, bought the star, only for the next star to spawn RIGHT AFTER BOO in the top right. I had enough coins to afford a star steal and both stars, and I was feeling kinda sorry for my cousin, so I stole the star from one of the CPUs, even though I would have been better off stealing from him, and still had enough roll left to get to the star in the top right. At this point my cousin was tearing up because of just how far I had gotten ahead in one turn, only for me to land on the blue space just below the top right star and get a hidden block with ANOTHER STAR. In one turn I had gotten 4 stars, and the next star spawned in the roundabout in the bottom right near start, so basically right along my path. I felt so sorry for him, it was the luckiest turn I'd ever had in Mario Party,, he ended up ragequiting, and I can't really hold it against him.

    • @tallboiedd2846
      @tallboiedd2846 3 года назад +5

      Jeez

    • @DonZmug
      @DonZmug 3 года назад +24

      A few weeks after I got the game, two friends and me played a 50 turn game on "Goomba's Casino". I had a blast of a run. Last 5 turn results were like this:
      1st: Me with 20 Stars and almost 900 coins
      2nd: Friend 1 with 9 Stars and around 350 coins
      3rd: Friend 2 with 3 Stars and around 150 coins
      4th: CPU with 1 Star and around 100 coins.
      Guess what had to happen then. You guessed it: Chance time! I had to swap everything with the CPU. Still managed to get two other stars in the last 4 turns and with bonus stars I got 3rd place, but I was so pissed, I didn't touch the game for a month.

    • @ritster21
      @ritster21 3 года назад +7

      How old were the two of you? If he was that young, you could have just given him a big hug.

    • @Redpoppy80
      @Redpoppy80 3 года назад +5

      MP4 is not very child friendly because someone can just go on tears that no one can do anything about.

  • @llamason7044
    @llamason7044 3 года назад +94

    I'm only 10 minutes in and I don't think I have ever heard ZoomZike sound this pissed off. (Understandably so).

  • @koopanique
    @koopanique 3 года назад +99

    It warms my heart that someone took all these strategies I'd make in my head as a kid, and turn them into a high production value 2+ hour long video on RUclips

  • @markymark443
    @markymark443 3 года назад +29

    Fun fact: the CPU's will never win anything from the scratch & win lottery mini-game (they always pick the "Try Again" cards). I don't remember where I heard or read it but I honestly also don't remember them ever winning anything from that one in all the times I've seen them play it so I believe it. They do win in the ball spin one sometimes though.

  • @tiki-nagasvoice7919
    @tiki-nagasvoice7919 3 года назад +377

    Oh man, I was just thinking about when this would be out... time to watch the entire thing with no breaks! :D

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +44

      ABSOLUTE MADLAD

    • @guardianboreal1432
      @guardianboreal1432 3 года назад +6

      @@zoomzike try doing all four and THEN will she be one. Also, can't wait for the stream upload. (You stream while i'm working or sleeping so i wait for the long video.) Doing great, as usual.

    • @Lorddrago_69
      @Lorddrago_69 3 года назад +1

      We all do

    • @tiki-nagasvoice7919
      @tiki-nagasvoice7919 3 года назад

      @@zoomzike I'm honored to be named a madlad, especially by the madlad himself!
      Thank you, ZoomZike :D

    • @tiki-nagasvoice7919
      @tiki-nagasvoice7919 3 года назад

      Okay wow, this got way too many likes AND a reply from ZoomZike, might have to just stop now while I'm ahead X3

  • @aceofarrows
    @aceofarrows 3 года назад +65

    ZoomZike: *has loved Chance Time until now*
    Also ZoomZike: *spends 5 minutes lamenting that this particular Chance Time - an event that was always meant to be pretty random - is **_actually random_** this time*

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice 3 года назад +47

    I can’t wait for the MPDS identifying luck after I graduate.

    • @tallboiedd2846
      @tallboiedd2846 3 года назад +1

      He's not doing mpds unfortunately

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice 3 года назад +6

      @TallBoiEdd eh we have time for him to possibly decide otherwise.

    • @tallboiedd2846
      @tallboiedd2846 3 года назад +5

      @@Magic_Ice i want him to do it. Its one of my favorites

    • @deanmoriarty6015
      @deanmoriarty6015 3 года назад +4

      @@Magic_Ice he has been highly enjoying it while live-streaming it so it’s possible. i hope so as well as it’s one of my favorites

    • @Mizai
      @Mizai 3 года назад

      we need this

  • @ambient2153
    @ambient2153 3 года назад +34

    12:59 The greatest love story: Warp Pipe and Swap Card

  • @ultimateprogamer5843
    @ultimateprogamer5843 3 года назад +8

    "It always defaults to Coin Swap! It always defaults to Coin Swap!" - ProtonJohn TRG Mario Party 4

  • @BobbyFluffy
    @BobbyFluffy 3 года назад +14

    Me: _After the entire Chance Time spiel_ "So what you're trying to say is this Mario Party is (so far) the most RNG-heavy, and by proxy the most frustrating?"

  • @therealist6421
    @therealist6421 3 года назад +14

    I love how when talking about chance time, Zoom's voice just goes into a deep state where it sounds like their soul has just died and the only thing left is a sad, afraid, husk which knows of their horrible fate.

  • @Borti_Ovi
    @Borti_Ovi 3 года назад +63

    What a surprising upload! Good going, man!
    ADDENDUM: You know what I miss in Mario Party? Dedicated character colors! In this game, the colors the characters have for each tool or vehicle is not based on the turn placement of the character (something still being done for recent Mario Parties) rather it is based on the character themselves. Mario = Red, Luigi = Blue (lol), Peach = Pink, Yoshi = Green, DK = Brown, Wario = Purple, Daisy = Yellow, Waluigi = Black. Understandably, these colors are never applies in 2 v 2s because it’s always a Red vs. Blue. But I always love when characters get cosmetic details special for them even if it is just based on color. Too bad that they ditched the idea when more characters were being added in future installments...

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 3 года назад +8

      Tbf you'd easily run into an issue with similar colors. Like, Peach, Toadette and Birdo all having variations of pink.

    • @phoebe5114
      @phoebe5114 Год назад

      Well, for what it's worth, 6 also did the associated color thing. It only really applies to orb spaces, but at least it's there and they look great for it! And I guess 7 technically, but that's through the use of dedicated character symbols on trap spaces so it's more about the icon than the color.

  • @LokNWykLeer
    @LokNWykLeer 3 года назад +32

    I never expected you to top your cactus event rant, but that Chance Time... Holy crap!

  • @loganmiller7827
    @loganmiller7827 3 года назад +47

    I wish you were planning on doing one for MPDS. I still love that game, it's definitely my favorite in the series. I'd love to know strategies to use, especially with the hexes.

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +19

      I haven't played much of it myself aha

    • @Katt-ci6gw
      @Katt-ci6gw 3 года назад +1

      @@zoomzike that would be fun XD that game was my childhood

    • @tiki-nagasvoice7919
      @tiki-nagasvoice7919 Год назад +5

      It would make somebody finally acknowledge Friend Spaces, the most wholesome space in Mario Party (:

    • @Lizuma
      @Lizuma Год назад +1

      It would be a really good game to include in this series, it’s the first Mario Party I ever played and one of my favorite childhood games. I played it so much and really enjoyed the story!

  • @jasminejohnston6393
    @jasminejohnston6393 3 года назад +58

    Fun fact: in non-English versions of Mario Party 4 Goomba’s Greedy Gala is called “Goomba’s Casino”!

    • @pickles3128
      @pickles3128 3 года назад +19

      Lame! Anything related to gambling has to be removed because of the UK's strong stance against children "gambling" with fake money. Remember when we had slot machines in Pokemon? I remember always losing to them in Gen 1 and learning gambling was rigged and dumb, and just bought all my coins to get a Porygon or Dratini. Though I much enjoyed HeartGold / SoulSiver's Voltorb Flip card game they put in the English release's place.

    • @somerandomashellperson7130
      @somerandomashellperson7130 3 года назад +2

      @@pickles3128 Those damn slot machines...

    • @DarkLink1996.
      @DarkLink1996. 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, but that doesn't fit the theme of all the boards containing a word for "Party" (Except Toad's).
      Plus, bonus points for the alliteration.

    • @redpup6931
      @redpup6931 3 года назад +4

      @@pickles3128 At least Goomba's Greedy Gala is a more catchy name than Goomba's Casino

    • @agentblackbird9435
      @agentblackbird9435 20 дней назад

      Not entirely. The Japanese name is “Heart Pounding Party” and the German name is “Goomba’s Garish World”

  • @MrBrawler16
    @MrBrawler16 3 года назад +19

    In all my years playing this game I had no idea there was a Bowser Suit.

    • @KW-12
      @KW-12 3 года назад +11

      Because it’s so rare that it’s likely that you see first an unicorn in real life.

  • @edophoenix92
    @edophoenix92 3 года назад +8

    Mario Party 4 is probably my favourite just because it was the first one I got.
    Best memory I have is the first time I bought an Item Bag. I got a Magic Lamp, Boo's Crystal Ball and Gaddlight so I was set for the entire game.

  • @CrowCrojoINTJ
    @CrowCrojoINTJ 3 года назад +51

    Game: "Do Ground Pounds"
    ZoomZike: "Do Hip Drops"
    Me: *You have become the very thing you swore to destroy.*

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 3 года назад +37

    Honestly after watching all your zoomjune videos I wanted to see more videos from you because I grew to appreciate your videos and your personality.
    At least I got this to sink my teeth into.

  • @Hawlo
    @Hawlo 3 года назад +161

    I remember being fascinated by the semi-realistic artstyle that a lot of the mini-games had. But it's definitely my least favorite Mario Party on the GC.

    • @thesnesgeek
      @thesnesgeek 3 года назад +23

      Five is the worst for me. Although 3, 6 and 7 seems to be the magnum opus in the entire series.

    • @deanmoriarty6015
      @deanmoriarty6015 3 года назад +8

      @@thesnesgeek i would agree with that about 7. i remember loving 6 but my disc got scratched so i don’t remember it amazingly

    • @thesnesgeek
      @thesnesgeek 3 года назад +4

      @@deanmoriarty6015 Yes, everyones favorite is subjective but from a critical and popularity standpoint it seems to be 3,6 and 7. But maybe 6 is more popular then.

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 3 года назад +4

      @@thesnesgeek 3 is for me personally the best one. But maybe also trough the huge Nostalgia factor I have for it. I have played every mario party from 1 to 8

    • @champofhorde9479
      @champofhorde9479 3 года назад +3

      @@Acacius1992 Nah, MP 3 is my favorite too, it is just so damn good

  • @asdunlavey
    @asdunlavey 3 года назад +45

    I'll never forget watching WiiRikeToPray in 2013 and seeing Tyler win the lottery on his first try.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 3 года назад +6

      I have played 4 for YEARS and only won the lottery ONCE and now I'm upset

    • @mushrooman765
      @mushrooman765 3 года назад +3

      @@PointsofData I've played the game for 6 years and i won the lottery for the first time ever last month

    • @BlackDawn626
      @BlackDawn626 3 года назад +4

      I speedrun this game for fun and tend to win the lottery probably once every other run I take. _And I know what you're think: who speedruns a Mario Party game? ........it's the only game I'm consistently great in lol_

  • @JohnTK
    @JohnTK 2 года назад +27

    I find it incredible how well balanced bowser’s big blast is. Makes you appreciate the programming and math work that went in to such a simple concept to make it fair and fun.

    • @Kunsir
      @Kunsir Год назад +3

      It's not well balanced. Zike was incredibly wrong about that in the video and so are you. Each subsequent player has a greater chance to be blown up per round. That incredibly obvious so I don't know why Zike actually bothered to portray this particular mini game as equally chanced. It's not. It's supposed to be the gauntlet of increasingly risky magnitude that it is. It's not equally chanced. But yes it is super fun. One of my favorite mini games along with Mushroom mix-up/hexagon heat.
      Correction: no, Zike actually was right about the mini game being perfectly balanced regarding ultimate chance to be blown up, I just didn't understand his method of explaining it!

    • @CrackLionIX
      @CrackLionIX 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think a simpler explanation is to just imagine that all players pick a switch at the same time, which makes the math very simple. Having every player go one at a time increases drama and tension but doesn't mathematically change anything.

  • @EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15
    @EvilStevilTheKenevilPEN15 3 года назад +32

    Zoomzike thinking pachinko would be consistent.
    Me, having studied chaos theory: _laughs_

  • @birdbird749
    @birdbird749 3 года назад +74

    Identifying mechanics - Mario’s time machine
    Alright but actually, having a series where you talk about the mechanics in some well known games does sound like it would be a good series. I would recommend smash bros for this but there’s already so many videos talking about the mechanics in smash, but I’m sure you could find something else that would be equally as interesting to talk about

    • @Tippex_Official
      @Tippex_Official 3 года назад +1

      Maybe something like FF or some old pc games like where in (insert location) is Carmen Sandiago or some of the Mario pc games.

    • @jml6263
      @jml6263 3 года назад +4

      Might just be me but that actually sounds bland as hell. Maybe because so many other people do that already. The great thing about this is it's freaking Mario Party broken down and given as much skill and breakdown as like a Smash Bros video. I guess he will have to do something after this series but I really hope he rides this train to the end of the Mario Party series, it's great.

    • @rarewaffle3531
      @rarewaffle3531 3 года назад

      @@jml6263 Completely agree, with that said, it would be super interesting to see something like this in the Mario Kart series

    • @egon3705
      @egon3705 3 года назад

      maybe kirby air ride

  • @StrumstarHammer
    @StrumstarHammer 3 года назад +20

    "It's PINBALL"
    I mean it's more like pachinko. Pinball has flippers n stuff.

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +9

      Ye, I was just going off the game

    • @markymark443
      @markymark443 3 года назад +13

      Pachinko you say? *horrible flashbacks from Super Mario Sunshine pachinko level ensue*

    • @asparagusoreo3280
      @asparagusoreo3280 3 года назад +3

      @@markymark443 GOD NO

    • @Katt-ci6gw
      @Katt-ci6gw 3 года назад +2

      @@markymark443 AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @briansulz3185
    @briansulz3185 3 года назад +11

    I never got the bowser suit in this game and I played it A TON, hell I never even knew it existed

    • @Redpoppy80
      @Redpoppy80 3 года назад +4

      It is CRAZY rare. I played 50 turn games on every board at least 3 times each and not even the CPU ever obtained the Bowser Suit.

    • @briansulz3185
      @briansulz3185 3 года назад +1

      Redpoppy I know right

    • @Kakkarot22
      @Kakkarot22 3 года назад +2

      Same, I played it almost literally every day as a kid and yet I never once saw the bowser suit

    • @PipeGuy64Bit
      @PipeGuy64Bit 3 года назад

      @@Redpoppy80 Oh wow really? I've played this game religiously and I've seen the Bowser suit appear at least 4 times and 2 Lottery Ticket wins... Though my save file says I have 1400+ stars collected in it's entire lifetime so of course I'm bound to see it at least a few times.

    • @kryzethx
      @kryzethx 3 года назад

      @@Redpoppy80 I played through the entirety of story mode with all 8 characters as a kid and basically 100% the game, and I still hadn't seen a Bowser Suit until recently in college, when one of my friends randomly got it

  • @truegamer2097
    @truegamer2097 3 года назад +8

    9:54 I it's actually worse than that. I've seen some tests done through save states to determine how it works. It's seems as though which one you get is predetermined (meaning that the box you choose doesn't matter). Granted, If I remember correctly, the had the save state after the roll was made. Thanks Alpharad.

  • @supermairo88
    @supermairo88 3 года назад +34

    Me: I got some classwork i should really do and it's really important and i shouldn't get distracted
    _this drops_
    Eh, procrastination is ok i guess

  • @LokNWykLeer
    @LokNWykLeer 3 года назад +6

    AW YISS!

  • @Nitro55555
    @Nitro55555 3 года назад +8

    Mario Party 4, imo not one of my favorites in the series, but I think the Mega + Mini gimmick was a cool idea that wasn’t used as well as it could have.

  • @pokeplayerHQ
    @pokeplayerHQ 3 года назад +8

    I STILL remember how Fish n' Drips screwed over TRG. We all know the 3 should have won that by a hair, but it just gave it to the one instead. It was highway robbery in the end.

  • @0megaFan
    @0megaFan 3 года назад +5

    "Wow! Can't wait to use this knowledge to my advantage!" I say, with my broken Wii, barely functioning Gamecube and no one to play with

  • @damnkovsky
    @damnkovsky 3 года назад +2

    this was my childhood mario party omg...... it brought back so many memories of sitting with my siblings and playing games with them

  • @b-bum
    @b-bum 3 года назад +5

    Videos like this really make me think that competitive Mario Party could not only be a viable comp scene, but a really interesting one to watch.

  • @markymark443
    @markymark443 3 года назад +9

    "There are no duel spaces in this title. I have no clue why" Well presumably it's due to the fact that there aren't any duel mini-games in it lol (not counting the couple that you play against Bowser in his board)

    • @Binglitpawn
      @Binglitpawn 3 года назад +2

      What about the story minigames? Those could have been converted into duel minigames.

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +2

      This is true

  • @zombieraichu2114
    @zombieraichu2114 3 года назад +6

    To this day, I’ll never understand why RUclips introduced me to your channel last year but... thank for keeping it up! My life’s been in turmoil, and watching your streams in post and identifying luck has been really helpful.

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +1

      I'm really glad that these videos have been helping you out. I hope things go better for you, thank you for the kind words.

  • @EGRAVEN-ge4nj
    @EGRAVEN-ge4nj 7 месяцев назад +2

    I think the biggest thing to come out of this video for me was knowing the warp pipe could be timed. 3 years on it has helped numerous times in this game

  • @MikeOShay
    @MikeOShay 3 года назад +2

    A cool strategic benefit of the Super Mini Mushroom is that it gives you a normal die's range but guarantees you won't roll a 1. Handy if there's a block right in front of you that you want to avoid

  • @exzyyd392
    @exzyyd392 3 года назад +51

    How to be good at Mario Party:
    Step 1: Be Alpharad
    Step 2: Win

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData 3 года назад

      If ypu are not Alpharad, being Michael Jones is an alternative

    • @Subpar1224
      @Subpar1224 3 года назад

      Just released a new video today in the newest mario party and Mr. Funnyman lost to Jo lol

    • @exzyyd392
      @exzyyd392 3 года назад +1

      @@Subpar1224 The only thing more powerful than Alpha is teamwork
      That honestly makes sense

    • @cirlu_bd
      @cirlu_bd 3 года назад

      @@Subpar1224 60% of the time, it works everytime. He may have lost at that moment, but it'sbecause he did not win.

  • @Pavlinka__
    @Pavlinka__ 3 года назад +7

    Well... The fact it isn't 4 hour long is bittersweet. Though, I think I'm glad as I can watch it in full before bed haha.

  • @deltaphant_
    @deltaphant_ 3 года назад +46

    I was about to buckle down and be productive, but guess not!

  • @1Thunderfire
    @1Thunderfire 3 года назад +1

    A note about being Mini: Bowser will sometimes make everyone mini in Bowser's Gnarly Party. You can often use this opportunity to get through the pipe gates to a mini mini-game (and sometimes you need to be mini to reach a Star anyway on any board unless you have a Magic Lamp). If you reach Bowser while mini, he'll laugh, set you on fire and return you to the start of the board which may be useful.

  • @brandonwilliams6119
    @brandonwilliams6119 3 года назад +3

    This video is Ultimate Nostalgia for me I felt like I was watching a movie, this was a huge trip down memory lane, this was my very first Mario Party (Crash Bash is also my childhood), I learned so much and got a lot of good laughs from your strategic tips. The GameCube Mario Parties were the peak of the series. You resurrected how much of the fun randomness I loved about this game specifically. I really need to try to find and get this game back I’d love to play it as an Adult. I’d try an emulator but I can’t figure out how to work Dolphin, it always lags.

  • @connorhobson6293
    @connorhobson6293 3 года назад +3

    Neat birthday present for me

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +3

      Happy birthday! Today's my birthday as well!

    • @connorhobson6293
      @connorhobson6293 3 года назад +1

      @@zoomzike well happy mutual birthday and happy upload

  • @TheDisarminghinkle
    @TheDisarminghinkle 3 года назад +1

    I like the Whomp domino minigame because it's the best way to measure your button mashing speed. It's the only game that just outright tells you how many times you pressed A. And, knowing that the minigame is 10 seconds, you can divide that in half and know how many times you can press A in 1 second. Pretty insane to think that you're pressing a button 10.4 times in one second.

  • @corbinselanne7990
    @corbinselanne7990 3 года назад +1

    Describing the item shop's stock the way you did reminded me about the time Waluigi won Goomba's Greedy Gala while Emile 'Chuggaaconroy' Rosales was playing Mario Party 4 with TRG's resident tech support Shauntelle 'MasaeAnela' Kikue; first-place Waluigi bought a Magic Lamp (which wasn't even in stock when Masae went there later that same turn), and he didn't even immediately use it because of a lucky roulette junction spin letting him snipe it from another player

  • @magicowlofbacon9416
    @magicowlofbacon9416 3 года назад +4

    I love this series! After the other retrospective I was watching just... ended, I went to the first one. I was not disappointed. I still re-watch them all whenever I can, despite their length, and I can't wait to see your analysis of the future games. Keep up the good work.
    Edit: I've only ever played the first 2, but this series always makes me more excited to play a new game in the series. Also, these videos really do help me improve at the game, so they are helpful and just so much fun to watch.

  • @florix1057
    @florix1057 3 года назад +8

    I literally only subbed to this channel way back when so I'd get notified when this video would finally release.
    The promised day has arrived.

  • @uberlord983
    @uberlord983 3 года назад +2

    7:30 It might also have to do with the fact that since there's more pockets on the 3rd table, their walls are steeper, making it harder for the ball to crawl out of them compared to the 1st & 2nd tables.
    19:47 Another nifty trick of the Minimega Hammer is that the target can't use items on the turn they're Mini/Mega.
    22:04 The Boo that steals coins from players is actually a perfectionist. He gets upset at every result except for max coins, which involves 0 inputs.

  • @goddesscarrie767
    @goddesscarrie767 3 года назад +1

    you probably won't see this, but i found this series when the 2nd was released and every time one is released its an event for me. i absolutely adore this. it's my favorite series on RUclips. Mario party has always been one of my favorite games but I grew up with only a sister who would play it with me, none of my friends enjoyed it, calling it just luck (no shit).
    Thank you zoomzike. From the bottom of my heart.

  • @toolatetocare7630
    @toolatetocare7630 3 года назад +4

    Its a shame they don't show the extra content for mario party 4. With the thwomp and the blue one. I loved that as a kid.

  • @baybay2255
    @baybay2255 9 месяцев назад +3

    I'm high AF and eating a fruit bowl from Walmart watching this. I am in paradise. 10/10

  • @hourlord
    @hourlord 3 года назад +1

    On Bowser's Gnarly Party having the most Blue Spaces; It actually fits the plot of the Adventure mode and works as a piece of Foreshadowing to the twist ending (Which sure is a thing to be able say about A Boardgame based minigame collection)
    For those who Haven't played, The Plot (Such as it is) of the Adventure mode (The Mode where you play through every board Sequentially) is that it is Your Character's Birthday. Each of the Boards is being hosted by a different character (The Characters the Boards are named after) and is essentially them throwing your character a shindig (Hence each board being named after a different type of party.). When you win the Board (possibly when you lose as well, but I haven't actually checked) The Host comes and gives you a present (What item it is is Unique to every Playable character, and gets added to a little room you can check out.) Once you've beaten all 5 of the other boards, Bowser Pops up! Oh No, He's crashing the Party! Oh No He's stolen your other presents! what a jerk! better go and beat him up or whatever!
    You Go Beat Him Up Or Whatever! Bowser's All Like Screw this I'm outta here! But! He "Accidentally" "Drops" A Present For you! And He Didn't Steal Your Other presents Either! It Turns Out! Bowser Just wanted you to have a Good Birthday! (Hence The Blue Spaces)
    He runs off, a Koopa Kid tells you Happy Birthday and follows and then, After one Very Final Surpise, The game is over and Credits roll! Now go do that all over again 7 More times if you want 100% completion!
    There's also several Boss Minigames that are Unique to the Adventure mode which I was a little dissapointed to see weren't covered in the Video but, as the series does seem to be more concerned with Competetive Play over Completionist, is a fair and valid choice.
    Thanks for these Super Fun Videos, ZoomZike. They've really opened up a Nostalgic portal back to my childhood. Can't wait for the next, Especially since we'll be getting into Territory I've never Played!

  • @spikeynay7381
    @spikeynay7381 3 года назад +2

    26:39 The genie in this game reminds me of the Pringles man

  • @goddesscarrie767
    @goddesscarrie767 3 года назад +4

    "To learn more about them, I recommend watching this video..."
    wait...what...? why aren't you...
    "called Identifying Luck - Mario Party 4!"
    heh. sneaky!

  • @Imirui
    @Imirui 3 года назад +9

    “And it’s sad to hear that one will be removed in a later title.” Spoiler: the coin star was removed

    • @polymerwario
      @polymerwario 3 года назад +9

      Honestly Mario Party 6 may have made a better bonus star instead of the coin star.
      With the coin star, players can be hoarding coins just for one bonus star and therefore, for example, not buying items.
      Meanwhile MP6's Orb Star encourages players to not hoard coins, as the items they buy and use go toward a bonus star, ASWELL as the items themselves giving themselves a boost.

  • @archiewebb9154
    @archiewebb9154 3 года назад +2

    Oh man what a treat!
    Releasing my favourite mario parties identifying luck right next to my birthday. What good luck for me

  • @Jeloetta
    @Jeloetta 3 года назад

    You are the premier channel for me to watch when it comes to reviewing material on my favorite party game series of all time. No one else breaks the information down in a way as interesting or as in-depth as you. It is a sincere joy to see you on my feed.

  • @frayzard
    @frayzard 3 года назад +10

    1:28:50 please let this be the thumbnail for the party mode playthrough stream
    Edit: Waluigi was good too

  • @sanity66zetpe58
    @sanity66zetpe58 3 года назад +8

    I'm mad that I have to wait until tomorrow to see this, however, thank you so much for your videos! You are always a joy to watch.
    Man, I am in a lot of youtube niches of games and such. And you are by far my favorite guy, when I'm able to open a credit card I'll go directly to your patreon man. Love u so much

    • @Pavlinka__
      @Pavlinka__ 3 года назад +2

      What other niches?

  • @rodneylives
    @rodneylives 3 года назад +2

    I've come to look forward to these videos, even though they're amazingly long, because of the information yes, but also you're great at presentation style! These videos are full of little jokes and touches that aren't obnoxious or in-your-face. I really appreciate that!

  • @randaljr.8581
    @randaljr.8581 3 года назад +3

    nice! time to watch this 10 times over the next few weeks, like i did with all of the others

  • @Analbag9001
    @Analbag9001 3 года назад +5

    YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU
    MY FAVORITE MARIO PARTY

  • @BooBoy456
    @BooBoy456 3 года назад +2

    YOOOO LETS GOOOOOO! This is the earliest entry in the series I actually own so I'm glad I will finally be able yo aply knowledge to my parties from here on out! I'll be patiently awaiting your future videos :)

  • @TanasinnAZ
    @TanasinnAZ 3 года назад +1

    >opening intro visuals are in sync with the music
    Finally a video editor who knows what's up

  • @jornruiterkamp5251
    @jornruiterkamp5251 3 года назад +3

    Yes, have been waiting for this!

  • @Plusreadie
    @Plusreadie 3 года назад +3

    what a good documentary so see in a sunday afternoon with some pizza
    loved it a lot! this was one of the mario parties i played the most!

  • @emilee4268
    @emilee4268 3 года назад +1

    Hey, happy birthday! I was super excited to see another entry in the series, and this one definitely didn't disappoint - great as always!

  • @Junkyardproduxtions
    @Junkyardproduxtions 2 года назад +1

    It's crazy that due to the size of this game you begin to actually implicitly understand these chances and strategies if you play alone.

  • @greenhitehweird7546
    @greenhitehweird7546 3 года назад +3

    It’s here!

  • @blubercharge19
    @blubercharge19 3 года назад +3

    now this sure does put a smile on my face

  • @robertgrays8790
    @robertgrays8790 Год назад +1

    1:54:18
    Mario: I can be Waluigi, too!
    Waluigi: You're mocking me, aren't you.

  • @cirlu_bd
    @cirlu_bd 3 года назад +1

    I really love these videos, listening to you listing all of the aspects of the game in your smooth voice is the most relaxing thing ever !

  • @RustyRat
    @RustyRat 3 года назад +4

    Heeeey awesome, just got this game for very cheap, now i can get the strategy guide too

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 3 года назад +8

    Hey ZoomZike, I just finished watching your Sonic level design videos and I was fascinated how well you described these levels and what makes a good or bad level, and I would appreciate it if you analyzed the level Blade Mountain from Pac-Man World 2, that is commonly praised as the best level in the game, would you mind covering it?

  • @Enkazadas
    @Enkazadas 3 года назад

    The thing I love about you is the sheer enthusiasm and bombast you have. You reel me in, and then keep me entertained the whole way through! Looking forward to seeing the next one!

  • @jaketno
    @jaketno 3 года назад

    I always love and appreciate the amount of detail you go into for these, especially being perhaps just as fascinated with Mario Party myself.

  • @KingGemini
    @KingGemini Год назад +4

    I genuinely feel like Mario Party 4 is the most heavily luck based game in the entire franchise. Even when it comes to board events that determine which way you can even go.

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow86767 3 года назад +3

    ZoomZike here at it again with a true masterpiece!

  • @thezachreinert551
    @thezachreinert551 3 года назад

    I’ve watched your whole IL:MP series and both bestiaries. Some of my favorite content on RUclips. I’ve got horrible insomnia, and your videos not only let me sleep, but give me Nintendo dreams. So thank you for giving us a little piece of heaven ZoomZike.

  • @silobandnj3967
    @silobandnj3967 2 года назад

    This was the Mario party game that I had in my house growing up. So it brings up a lot of nostalgia. There was so much crap like the beginning of the toad board where you just get stuck in a loop so frustrating. So the strategy in my household was just win all the mini games get a lot of coins and just keep on buying magic lamps and Boos to try to get stars. Still had a lot of fun with this title. Great video!

  • @CowboyJoseph64
    @CowboyJoseph64 3 года назад +5

    52:55 Paying 20 coins does not guarantee it. I once did pay 20 coins, and I still did not go to the star zone.
    I was livid.

    • @stardust_7827
      @stardust_7827 3 года назад +1

      he never said it was guaranteed. what he said was the coins doesnt make a difference, but paying or not does.

    • @CowboyJoseph64
      @CowboyJoseph64 3 года назад +1

      @@stardust_7827 he's pretty clearly referring to the 20 coin amount when he says "guaranteed", otherwise why wouldn't he say it for the 5 coin amount as well? And also, if he didn't think it mattered which coin amount it was, he would probably say to ignore 20 entirely like he says to ignore 10.

    • @zoomzike
      @zoomzike  3 года назад +5

      You're right, I was supposed to say "practically guarantee" when referring to the 20 coin amount, since I've seen it not work before. I misspoke and made it seem like it was a 100% deal, thanks for the catch!

    • @ThatguycalledJoe
      @ThatguycalledJoe 3 года назад

      @@zoomzike If only annotations still existed.

    • @matt0198922
      @matt0198922 3 года назад

      @@zoomzike Do you have a breakdown of what the actual odds are for 5/10/20 coins? And how the odds take into account the 4 lucky star spots that let you choose?