Exactly. You have to think this in the context that it's a Disney movie so the characters they're voicing are going to be moving around in the scenes they sing, and someone belting out a word while running around without it breaking would be pretty unrealistic. (Not saying disney movies in general are realistic) For example when Idina sings the first "into the unknown" she's doing it on a balcony into the distance, and she has to make it seem like she's longing for whatever's out there. She had to sing the line like her voice is reaching for it, not shouting for it once and that's it.
The reason there is 3 different vowels in the last Unknown is because she is mimicking the call of Ah-ah-Ah.. that starts the song, she is answering it in that melody, I love Brendon version but it lacks the "Response" to the call and the Rock/pop instrumentals are too much for me, That's why I prefer Idina's version. Also just wanted to say that 3 vowels are in every language dub.. Every singer who played Elsa did that so..
I think the problem here is that she's listening to the song as if it were just a song--not a story being told. When listening to songs from musicals, you have to keep in mind what the song is saying because it dictates how it needs to be sung. Chazza 'Feb' mentioned that it's a musical motif, and she's right. I love the drive that Brendon Urie gives to the song--but Idina's version is the one that's perfect for the story being told.
I think for Idina, it’s more emotional, and for Brendons ,it’s more loud and clear, overall can’t really pick which is better, they both have that one thing they stand out in
Erm. This is the original version written for and sung by Idina Menzel who voices Elsa in the animated movie, NOT “Idina Menzel’s version”. BIG difference.
Ramen Cat l thought it was clearly explained but I don’t mind going over it again. The audio video in which this voice actress reacts to was originally recorded from the “Frozen 2” animated movie in 2019 and released by DisneyVEVO’s RUclips channel approximately 1 week before the animated movie was in released to theaters. And hence, it IS the original version and how the song should be sung to express Elsa’s dilemma and conflicted answer toward the strange calling she heard from the unknown distance. That’s why the song is titled “Into The Unknown”. Saying that it’s “Idina Menzel’s version” not only discredits Idina Menzel’s originality from the song and Frozen as a whole but also renders her contribution to just “one of the covers”. Without her, there would be no Brendon Urie’s version of “Into The Unknown”. Just like how Demi Lovato’s uneducated and crazy fans once proceeded to say that “Let It Go” was “her song” until they were silenced by those who watched Frozen. And Disney isn’t known to be lax in terms of copyright of their trademarks (Frozen included). Laws regarding intellectual property exist for a reason because they protect an artist’s work from being plagiarized by others. Just imagine that this RUclipsr’s original work is considered as “one of the covers”, will she be pissed off as well ? Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think one should have the ownership of a song but we should establish the boundary between “the original” and “the covers” for the sake of honoring the artist (who, in this case, is Idina Menzel who originally performed “Into The Unknown”). Idina Menzel should be credited as “the original Elsa” or “original performer of Let It Go, Into The Unknown, and Show Yourself”, NOT “Idina Menzel’s version”.
If you want to be technical, Brendon's version came out first. I understand the "original version written for...Elsa" but I just think you're being a bit too technical. Also, they changed it for Brendon, as most of those remakes are rewritten.
@@josef-1209 They mean, that this person assessed Idina Menzel like she did with Brendon Urie, as a cover. However, THIS version is the original that goes along with the movie. Yes, Disney did alter it for Brendon, but how Idina sings it is how it's supposed to be sung with the movie.
Idina has said before that she only hits 50% of her notes in a live performance or something like that. I know nothing about music but my roommates frequently drag her for it.
Victoria Daly I’ve read somewhere that it’s because her voice is damaged because of her unsafe singing method (I’m not a vocalist so I have no idea how it could happen). Still, I have to give her credit for being able to sing this level
@@namelessbard2124 I mean has anyone seen the stuff shes done? Defying gravity is one of the most damaging songs for your vocals and there are videos that show her voice deteriorating over time, it's such a shame :(
Im a brendon fan lol im a huge fan of his vocals but Idina murdered him with this song... she can sing with such technique idk i like the change in vocals she makes... so good ughh
I've seen a lot of Urie Fans not caring about Idina's version and saying Brendon's better glad to see someone who acknowledges Idina while not trashing Brendon. :)
Thank you someone with some sense.. I like both, but honestly I agree, this song simply suits idina better, which is normal since ut was written with her in mind
@@jellyace1189 To be fair that may be the only thing there to critique. Without the backdrop of the story, Idina's version is musically less impressive than Brendon's and Idina is far from a terrible singer. I think she is just trapped in a situation where she is struggles to compare it favorably to Brendon's more poppy, driving version and the widening of Idina's vowels is a valid thing to point out.
Lmao, right there's no problem with Idina's version but I guess since she's a brendon fan she has to find something wrong with Idina's version that's not really a problem to make his look better.
😂😂 definitely Brendon fan. You can tell cause she always says “the Brendon Urie version” and not once says “panic at the disco” when it’s the whole band performing
If you read the description for the Brendon Urie video, you'll find that Urie was actually a vocal student of the channel's founder. Her favoring Urie over Idina Menzel makes sense when you consider this. Still, I think she's wrong. I like both interpretations of the song for different reasons. Both Menzel and Urie make choices that make sense within their respective song styles. Menzel's choices make more sense in the context of the movie, and Urie's choices make sense in the context of trying to deviate from the original song enough to exist within its own context. I would've been more interested in hearing comments about Aurora's voice, how that pairs with Menzel's, and how it contrasts with how Urie handled her part. I'm thoroughly disappointed.
This criticism seems really old and really played out ... people have been trying to shit on Idina for years and yet she continues to become more successful... Idina is Elsa, not Brendon! In true frozen fashion I say ... LET IT GO!!!
ikr like you can't really compare the Elsa version to a pop version made by someone who isn't Elsa. like Idina's version is superior to Brendon's version
I actually like the 3 different vowels? It makes it different and more interesting and not so boring and repetitive like Brendon Uries in my opinion :/
I think both version's are great but tbh I prefer Idina's mix up of the vowels. I'm taking into account things that aren't obvious too, like the fact that she's going to be asked to sing this EVERYWHERE she goes now. Frozen is part of her life so I respect that she's trying to make it beautiful but she needs to preserve her voice too. Could she make it sound cleaner? I believe so but I'm not worried it, sounds over the moon just as it is.
I will disagree. I think she could do either, but she and her team went with the wider vowel for the dramatic effect. Disney is really big on dramatic and emotional appeal. That has always been a staple of Disney to bring out emotions.
Memoreism that is so true. if your going to criticize disney, don’t even. almost everyone would agree with this. in my opinion, the way idina did this, it fit her voice better than the other vowel would. you couldn’t even hit that note, so check yourself before you check an amazing singer, actor, and disney star. thank you.
I have the same thoughts. But that IS a Idina Menzel signature. She's a singer. She has a style that people NEED to recognize; it's a smart choice of hers and her team. Just like everyone knows when Christina Aguilera is singing. Or Gwen Stefani. Or Rihanna. You don't have a signature, then you get forgotten.
Tiffany Mania-- I thought the same thing immediately when she said that. I feel like she needs to make an apology at the end of this video to give Aurora credit for her eerie and amazing siren call.
I felt the same, when I hear the song for the first time it was fine, the i saw the movie...uffffff everything made sense, the animation of Elsa was incredible and Idina's voice amazing!!! The same with Show yourself
I’m going to be honest, I heard you praise Brendon a lot which is totally well deserved because he’s an amazing singer! But you criticized Idina the whole time but you failed to even acknowledged how amazing her version was. I preferred her version as the 3 vowels make it sound so much better.
It's pretty well known in the vocal coach world that idina Menzel has pretty bad technique. Her notes are impressive, but she's right when she says that she's pushed her chest register too far. It will end up destroying her vocal chords. If you can't reach those notes without screwing up your technique, you shouldn't be going for those notes yet. She's a professional, who knows what she's talking about. And she's not the only one. It is definitely not jealousy. If it was, she would criticize every amazing singer the same way.
I've never seen your videos before, so I don't know what your opinions are, but I feel like there's a lot of bias here. It feels like picking at a non-issue just to find a reason to critize Idina.
Okay, the reason she sings the three different vowels when she’s going “into the unknown” is because she’s mimicking the haunting voice that initially triggered her attention. It happens again in her other song Show Yourself. I’m not music expert but even I noticed that.
@Hazeanna Willow I think that's a little over the line of the topic of my comment 😅. Everybody chill out. i just voiced out about how i think she's biased and that's it. don't take this comment out of context. thanks.
Araceli •Chely• I feel like the “idina fans” are biased to the Movie from which this song is from not Idina herself lol. Which is much more valid to say that this version is better than the Brendon one in my opinion. They did it as a pop cover and to show off his vocals not tell this story.
Honestly. I didn't come here for a comparison between Brendon Urie's cover and Idina Menzel's "version". Idina is an actress. The difference in the vowels exists so there can be more emotion and to make it sound bigger. I'm a huge Brendon Urie fan don't get me wrong here. But you can't compare two artists who had completely different outtakes from the song. Like you said in the beginning. It didn't sound like the same song because it simply is not. But that's just my opinion. But throwing shade towards a singer who's been doing broadway and comparing her to a pop singer is not cool. In broadway everything NEEDS to be loud and big and dramatic. Just my opinion though...
I feel like she’s madly in love with Brendon Urie and has a weird issue with Idina, does she realise Idina’s is the original version and panic at the disco just covered it for the album? I don’t understand her issues here!
You do realize the way she sings the last “unknown” in the chorus is a play off of the melody from the voice Elsa hears, right? It’s brilliantly written. Your ignorance is showing here. How embarrassing.
She needed to watch the movie and get the context of why it's being sung like that, but I guess it's easier to trash a highly respected and accomplished singer instead.
@@gracieloufreebush4899 Just the fact that she has a video in YT does not mean that she don't have experience. Idina's fans can be really haters some times. This girl is not even disrespectful, at least not for me.
Libbi Butler honestly, i dont think she was able to catch what the song was supposed to be doing in the first part. Its very simple, and im surprised she didn’t understand it instantly. The song itself starts out with the pitch changes.
I guess because she's being bias? You know, everyone has every favorite...and this vocal coach just loves Brendon Urie too much...just awful she can't appreciate Idina's prettier masterpiece because she don't know the whole story, and yeah being bias.
It didn’t even sound forced. She literally just chose to use a wide vowel sound. That’s not a technical problem. This lady just didn’t like it for whatever reason and hyper focused on it.
I enjoy both versions. They're different but equal to me. I came into this thinking I would prefer Brendon Urie's, but I think they're both really good. We don't have to make everything a competition at the end of the day. Thanks for sharing. Hers is more dramatic and gives the chill factor, and he is is definitely a much more exciting and fun and makes you feel that motivation for whatever it is we're supposed to be motivated for, LOL.
I mean I like both, and the Panic! At The Disco version made me want to actually watch the movie. Which is saying a lot, considering I hated the first Frozen
After you watch the movie you’ll appreciate it more... after all it is a musical. Edit: and also about the vowels, imo I like it, it kind of adds a little oomph. It adds that extra excitement and power. Imo at least
Yes also she is doing the Ah Ah we heard from thr voice. She is kind of reproducing the sound as to tell the voice that she is listening kind of answering back to the voice while singing
When you're saying that she's singing 3 different vowels, Idina is doing that because she's trying to copy the AH - AH - AH! Which is the voice she's hearing. Also, you can't say that Brandon Urie is the "original" one because Idina's version is, because it's from the Frozen 2 movie.
Idina is acting as well as singing. When she uses those vowels she is also mimicking the ah-ah-ah-ah in the movie that is calling her. You should try to watch the movie before you react to the songs. Also, I feel like you are viewing Brendon’s version as though it’s the original, which it isn’t. You can’t deny that Idina Menzel is a very special singer with her own style. I know people have already said these things before but I just want to say them again.
The vowels are different bcuz she wasn't just singing but she was also acting in the role of Elsa. And for a further reason she was answering the call that Aurora made in the beginning of the song. So it's different from Brandon's version and technically this isn't Idina's version at all. This is the original song from the original movie so it's a huge difference
Idina has to go for the wider vowels in order to hit those notes. The notes are so hard all on their own, but Idina also has asthma, so that adds on extra strain when she's singing. Whatever vowel modifications she has to make in order to hit those notes, I say go for it. And, personally, I do like the "AH" vowel she uses with those third "Into the Unknown"s. I think it sounds good. That's my personal opinion, though. I do have extensive vocal training of my own, but I'm not an actual vocal coach, so obviously we're gonna differ on opinions with stuff. But then again, everyone has their own opinions on how songs are sung. Nothing wrong with that.
@@jessicaharris8575 Yeah, she used to tell a story about how back when she was starring as Elphaba in 'Wicked', there was a day when she had a major asthma attack while performing 'Defying Gravity'. She barely managed to finish the song, then as soon as it was over she had to rush off stage and was taken to the hospital by ambulance while still in full green makeup. It was crazy. All this hardcore singing she has to do for the original Frozen movie and Frozen 2 are not good for her. It's destroying her voice. She used to be absolutely amazing when singing live, and now she always sounds so raspy and her voice cracks and she can't do the high notes. I saw a video a few days ago of her singing I think it was 'Show Yourself', and she sounded horrible. You could just hear how much she was straining her voice just to get through it. I feel so bad for her. She has pushed herself way too much over the years, and her voice has payed the price for it. She only sounds good on recordings because they can have her sing the same thing a million times and then edit all those different recordings together so that you only hear the good takes.
@@jessicaharris8575 Yeah, it's really sad. She used to be a major powerhouse who could sing pretty much almost anything, and now she can barely sing at all. Most people just hear the Frozen soundtrack and think "Wow, she's amazing!", some will hear her live and think "What the heck is wrong with her voice? She's messing up on every note!", and then there are the few of us who know the sad truth. Frozen was the real beginning of the end. She was still so amazingly good at singing back when she did her last show on Broadway, which I think was 'If/Then', and then she stopped Broadway when she was cast as Elsa, and her voice now sounds nothing the way it did back then. I love both Frozen movies so much, but it's just heartbreaking when you know what these movies did to Idina's voice.
same. felt like brendon was resting on his P!ATD laurals. his version isnt as "emotional". I prefer Idina's version because it sounds more human, if that makes sense
I think thats not really a bad thing. Brendon covered this song with the means to sing the song, however idina sang it as a musical, as a disney movie. They both have different backgrounds in singing and i like that alot
“Ah-ah-ah-ah,” “Into the unkn-ah-ah-ah-ahn.” The lines are supposed to communicate with each other. Also her wide vowel encompasses the vibe of a vast and cold openness, and the title of the song is “Into the Unknown,” ever been to a cold plain in the morning with a thick blanket of fog? Because Idina’s artistic choice in vowels perfectly illustrates such wonder. I prefer this version over Brandon Urie’s because it’s just thematically and narratively superior in my opinion, though both artists are truly talented.
@@razrv3lc tbh his version for ME was boring and lackluster. Sure he can hit high notes but i didn't feel anything. Ftom idina,i got chills when she did the chorus and bridge. But with brendon,i didn't feel anything. It felt empty in a way. Now ofcourse this is just my opinion and you may feel different about it.
i love Idina’s vowels, they’re incredible. in my opinion, i like the way they put the vowels. its not as boring and it sounds really good. edit: i feel like shes just making corrections of Idina’s because she listened to Brendon’s cover before the original.
I know literally nothing about music but I really like her vowel changes. I think it sounds a little more.. interesting? I love Brendon’s version as well. But I LOVE Idina’s! 😂
As a person with no singing or vocal training background, I interpreted her singing “unknown” that way as a way to match the siren’s notes. And I loved that part so much that I’ve listened the songs again and again just to hear her “unknown” match up with the siren’s “unknown”. It is truly magical and I didn’t see it as Idina’s inability to sing properly. I saw it as a clever way to make the story come alive. I know you critique is in a professional and theoretical way, but I love Idina’s version just how it is. More than half of population aren’t trained vocalists, so I’m pretty sure they will be able to feel the magic without seeing the fault too, just like I did
Never seen your channel before. You just popped up in my recommended. But based on this video alone…in the words of Remus Sanders… I love how hard you try, it’s so cute.
Was it my impression or she was trying to throw some shade onto Idina’s vocals? Quick reminder: she is the original one, which means the other singers had her as their model to perform.
i feel like even if it was the only choice idina could make to get the notes out, even though i doubt it is,,,,,the vowels fit elsa’s so perfectly and honestly seeing the movie while listening vs just listening makes such a difference
Just tbh but I really hated the way she “judged” this especially since she hasn’t even seen the movie. I’m pretty positive Idina could sing this song without changing the vowels but it makes the song much more fitting to the movie when she changes them.
“LeTs SeE wHaT sHe DoEs WiTh ThEsE tHrEe VoWeLs” It sounds like my girl has some personal vendetta against Idina Menzel... Also she’s excited to hear her sing live so she can criticize her even more LOL
Please watch the film so you understand why she sings "unknown" like that, it's to answer the call she hears it's not because she "cant get through it", and I'm pretty sure Brendon Urie does the same thing? 🤔🙄 it's part of the story of the song and is beautiful😍
Or she made a stylistic choice because she’s going to be asked to belt this out non stop for the next year so she is saving her voice. Urie only needed to do it the once he can take the chance.
Her way of singing will actually take more of a toll on her voice than Brandon's. She pulls chest voice up too high, while Brandon mixes his chest and head registers to achieve strong, high notes with ease.
Everyone keeps saying she's biased as if it's a bad thing and she's not allowed to favour one over the other. This is a react video - if it were a review, it would be wrong for her to be biased. Since it's not though, she can be biased and prefer one over the other. She heard Brandon's first so maybe she prefered it and was expecting it to sound a lot like Brandon's. There are people who are upset that she seemed biased against Idina and yet those same people insult Brandon's version as if it makes them right. Not to mention but she complimented Idina but everyone else only wants to focus on the negatives.
The higher "ah-ah-ah-ah" is sung by a Norwegian singer called aurora. Hence why her name is credited in the end credits as "the voice" or something like that.
Same, Brendon made me want to watch the movie, seeing the scene on RUclips made me want to watch the movie too, because it was visually amazing. Which says a lot, because I hated the first Frozen movie
Yes, I think many of her dynamic choices here are character-driven! Idina is a great actress and knows how to interpret a song. However, knowing her voice and body of work quite well, I think some of her vocal choices are also telling of what kind of technique she relies on to get to the high notes.
I mean, the different vowels are literally how Broadway singers are trained to sing. It's not worse...it's how I was taught to sing, it just makes it easier if you have to hit these crazy notes night after night and have them understandable and not chew up your throat. :P
I think the different vowels in that line are intentional to match the call she's hearing. She mimics the call throughout the movie.
Correct! When listening to the international renditions of this song, that same three vowel in one word is there as well!
Exactly
AURORA sings the voice who calls elsa.
Yep ^_^
I agree :D
Idina is singing the song as ‘Elsa’ , she’s acting/singing so it’s very different to the other version which is just sung like any song.
Exactly
I think that's why I like her version better. It has a cooler thematic tone. And shes so good cuz of her Broadway background
@@omgzitsmilk Yess, and this is exactly why Idina is able to make every song she sing her own. I rly love how she put her soul in every song she sung.
@@serafinachiu1219 not gonna lie, I read India and was lost for a bit
Exactly. You have to think this in the context that it's a Disney movie so the characters they're voicing are going to be moving around in the scenes they sing, and someone belting out a word while running around without it breaking would be pretty unrealistic. (Not saying disney movies in general are realistic) For example when Idina sings the first "into the unknown" she's doing it on a balcony into the distance, and she has to make it seem like she's longing for whatever's out there. She had to sing the line like her voice is reaching for it, not shouting for it once and that's it.
The reason there is 3 different vowels in the last Unknown is because she is mimicking the call of Ah-ah-Ah.. that starts the song, she is answering it in that melody, I love Brendon version but it lacks the "Response" to the call and the Rock/pop instrumentals are too much for me, That's why I prefer Idina's version. Also just wanted to say that 3 vowels are in every language dub.. Every singer who played Elsa did that so..
Thank you!
thank you for this!
Mixer Joy I am a Boy. Thank you for providing your insights.
Exactly. It's the call-response which I think is a very clever musical motif, not just "the only way she can get through it" @TheBalancedSinger
I think the problem here is that she's listening to the song as if it were just a song--not a story being told. When listening to songs from musicals, you have to keep in mind what the song is saying because it dictates how it needs to be sung. Chazza 'Feb' mentioned that it's a musical motif, and she's right. I love the drive that Brendon Urie gives to the song--but Idina's version is the one that's perfect for the story being told.
the emotion is better than the cover. because shes acting as well as singing.
I think Idinas version is better
I do love Brendans voice though
I think she should have watched the movie first she would’ve got it then 😅
I think for Idina, it’s more emotional, and for Brendons ,it’s more loud and clear, overall can’t really pick which is better, they both have that one thing they stand out in
Erm. This is the original version written for and sung by Idina Menzel who voices Elsa in the animated movie, NOT “Idina Menzel’s version”.
BIG difference.
Please explain better :)
Ramen Cat l thought it was clearly explained but I don’t mind going over it again.
The audio video in which this voice actress reacts to was originally recorded from the “Frozen 2” animated movie in 2019 and released by DisneyVEVO’s RUclips channel approximately 1 week before the animated movie was in released to theaters. And hence, it IS the original version and how the song should be sung to express Elsa’s dilemma and conflicted answer toward the strange calling she heard from the unknown distance. That’s why the song is titled “Into The Unknown”.
Saying that it’s “Idina Menzel’s version” not only discredits Idina Menzel’s originality from the song and Frozen as a whole but also renders her contribution to just “one of the covers”. Without her, there would be no Brendon Urie’s version of “Into The Unknown”. Just like how Demi Lovato’s uneducated and crazy fans once proceeded to say that “Let It Go” was “her song” until they were silenced by those who watched Frozen. And Disney isn’t known to be lax in terms of copyright of their trademarks (Frozen included).
Laws regarding intellectual property exist for a reason because they protect an artist’s work from being plagiarized by others. Just imagine that this RUclipsr’s original work is considered as “one of the covers”, will she be pissed off as well ?
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think one should have the ownership of a song but we should establish the boundary between “the original” and “the covers” for the sake of honoring the artist (who, in this case, is Idina Menzel who originally performed “Into The Unknown”). Idina Menzel should be credited as “the original Elsa” or “original performer of Let It Go, Into The Unknown, and Show Yourself”, NOT “Idina Menzel’s version”.
If you want to be technical, Brendon's version came out first. I understand the "original version written for...Elsa" but I just think you're being a bit too technical.
Also, they changed it for Brendon, as most of those remakes are rewritten.
@@josef-1209 They mean, that this person assessed Idina Menzel like she did with Brendon Urie, as a cover. However, THIS version is the original that goes along with the movie. Yes, Disney did alter it for Brendon, but how Idina sings it is how it's supposed to be sung with the movie.
@@adriannaa545 ok. Thanks!
Why do I feel like you're tryna shade the legendary Ms Idina? 😂😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂
Exactly
Idina has said before that she only hits 50% of her notes in a live performance or something like that. I know nothing about music but my roommates frequently drag her for it.
Victoria Daly I’ve read somewhere that it’s because her voice is damaged because of her unsafe singing method (I’m not a vocalist so I have no idea how it could happen). Still, I have to give her credit for being able to sing this level
@@namelessbard2124 I mean has anyone seen the stuff shes done? Defying gravity is one of the most damaging songs for your vocals and there are videos that show her voice deteriorating over time, it's such a shame :(
i think the three vowels on the last unknown are meant to vaguely match the ah-ah-ah-ah in the background
Yes. You are right.
ryan exactly!!!
Yes
It's not just the background "voice". It's the siren call that she's answering. This song is a reply to that ah-ah-ah-ah.
Ehm. In terms of sound, it doesn't match at all. Of course the notes are a call/answer, but the vowels are not
She just sounds like she has some weird and personal grudge against Idina lol.
"who doesn't love a guy singing high?" Lol
It's so weird lol like wtf lol
Ikr
Josh Tanzer yo honestly
@@cntom8233 problem with people nowadays.
When u can sing high notes=ur good
When u can only sing low notes= ur bad
React to the other song “show yourself”, which for ME is the next let it go
Lmao yeds so true pleas react show yourself :)
Yeah it's beautiful
I agree with you, Mico. "Show yourself" mat be way more catchier than this one.
yes pleaseee react to show yourself !!!
YES THAT NEEDS WAY MORE RECOGNITION
Im a brendon fan lol im a huge fan of his vocals but Idina murdered him with this song... she can sing with such technique idk i like the change in vocals she makes... so good ughh
I've seen a lot of Urie Fans not caring about Idina's version and saying Brendon's better glad to see someone who acknowledges Idina while not trashing Brendon. :)
It's only the changing of vowels she's referring, which is a very minor thing (not even a problem) that she's too pressed about
Thank you someone with some sense.. I like both, but honestly I agree, this song simply suits idina better, which is normal since ut was written with her in mind
@@jellyace1189 To be fair that may be the only thing there to critique. Without the backdrop of the story, Idina's version is musically less impressive than Brendon's and Idina is far from a terrible singer. I think she is just trapped in a situation where she is struggles to compare it favorably to Brendon's more poppy, driving version and the widening of Idina's vowels is a valid thing to point out.
Ikr
I’m gonna focus on this one problem that’s not actually a problem
Lmao, right there's no problem with Idina's version but I guess since she's a brendon fan she has to find something wrong with Idina's version that's not really a problem to make his look better.
RIGHT! wtf. I love that they were all different! It's more fun to sing!
😂😂 definitely Brendon fan. You can tell cause she always says “the Brendon Urie version” and not once says “panic at the disco” when it’s the whole band performing
She did not even say it was bad or a problem!
If you read the description for the Brendon Urie video, you'll find that Urie was actually a vocal student of the channel's founder. Her favoring Urie over Idina Menzel makes sense when you consider this. Still, I think she's wrong. I like both interpretations of the song for different reasons. Both Menzel and Urie make choices that make sense within their respective song styles. Menzel's choices make more sense in the context of the movie, and Urie's choices make sense in the context of trying to deviate from the original song enough to exist within its own context. I would've been more interested in hearing comments about Aurora's voice, how that pairs with Menzel's, and how it contrasts with how Urie handled her part. I'm thoroughly disappointed.
This criticism seems really old and really played out ... people have been trying to shit on Idina for years and yet she continues to become more successful... Idina is Elsa, not Brendon! In true frozen fashion I say ... LET IT GO!!!
Yes like Idina is a legend, she gotta chill lol
Yeah, agree, Idina is fantastic even when haters lurk.
Jaime Torres wtf who is brendan it’s brendon you uncultured swine
And just because she is Elsa, he can't do it better? Also, she didn't say it was a problem, she just noted it!
ikr like you can't really compare the Elsa version to a pop version made by someone who isn't Elsa. like Idina's version is superior to Brendon's version
I actually like the 3 different vowels? It makes it different and more interesting and not so boring and repetitive like Brendon Uries in my opinion :/
I agree!!
Agreeee she knows her thing
Yes !!!
I agree
brendon uries version is not boring and repetitive
"is that kristen bell?"
*slams desk* A U R O R A-
“same key as brendon urie” no. brendon urie is the same key as idina menzel.
I thought the *exact* same thing
that’s what i was gonna say!!!
No hate or anything, but, didn't Brendon sing it first?
But we all have to agree, they are both very good singers
well no obviously not because Idina would’ve first recorded it for the movie a few years ago xx brendon released his. a few weeks ago
I think both version's are great but tbh I prefer Idina's mix up of the vowels. I'm taking into account things that aren't obvious too, like the fact that she's going to be asked to sing this EVERYWHERE she goes now. Frozen is part of her life so I respect that she's trying to make it beautiful but she needs to preserve her voice too. Could she make it sound cleaner? I believe so but I'm not worried it, sounds over the moon just as it is.
Nathalia Kosidlo i love her vowel its great tbh
I see what you did there with “over the moon”
Idina is like one of the most amazing singers ever😀
I think she has an amazing voice
She should of listed to that version first and watched the movie
I will disagree. I think she could do either, but she and her team went with the wider vowel for the dramatic effect. Disney is really big on dramatic and emotional appeal. That has always been a staple of Disney to bring out emotions.
Memoreism that is so true. if your going to criticize disney, don’t even. almost everyone would agree with this. in my opinion, the way idina did this, it fit her voice better than the other vowel would. you couldn’t even hit that note, so check yourself before you check an amazing singer, actor, and disney star. thank you.
I have the same thoughts. But that IS a Idina Menzel signature. She's a singer. She has a style that people NEED to recognize; it's a smart choice of hers and her team. Just like everyone knows when Christina Aguilera is singing. Or Gwen Stefani. Or Rihanna. You don't have a signature, then you get forgotten.
Watch her 'Let it go' live performances. She can't
the three vowels sound so good though !!! i don’t know why she didn’t like it
I agree it it was lower it wouldn't have hit me the same. Also what she does in the final into thee... Sounds amazing
i love how she’s like “is the siren kristen bell?” like lmao no. you couldn’t even read the goddamn title? it clearly says Idina Menzel and AURORA.
Tiffany Mania-- I thought the same thing immediately when she said that. I feel like she needs to make an apology at the end of this video to give Aurora credit for her eerie and amazing siren call.
Doesn’t mean she can’t make a mistake. We’re all human
Her: Idina is playing the same key as Brendon
Truth: Brendon is playing the same key as Idina
I like this version because it seems like (in the context of the movie) she is calling back to the voice with the “UN-knaawn” on the last one.
After seeing the movie Idinas version with Else's "Acting" is 10/10 for me.
I felt the same, when I hear the song for the first time it was fine, the i saw the movie...uffffff everything made sense, the animation of Elsa was incredible and Idina's voice amazing!!! The same with Show yourself
I’m going to be honest, I heard you praise Brendon a lot which is totally well deserved because he’s an amazing singer! But you criticized Idina the whole time but you failed to even acknowledged how amazing her version was. I preferred her version as the 3 vowels make it sound so much better.
exactly.
Lol it’s not an “version” it’s her fricken song cause she does the voice of Elsa 😂 she sounds mad jealous of Indina
Katie Bosco yeah exactly it was literally written for her
TRUEEE
People can give criticism, it doesn't make them jealous.
It's pretty well known in the vocal coach world that idina Menzel has pretty bad technique. Her notes are impressive, but she's right when she says that she's pushed her chest register too far. It will end up destroying her vocal chords. If you can't reach those notes without screwing up your technique, you shouldn't be going for those notes yet. She's a professional, who knows what she's talking about. And she's not the only one. It is definitely not jealousy. If it was, she would criticize every amazing singer the same way.
I prefer this one more than Uries......
JeremySheer same
Then you will like the Korean Version by Taeyeon.
Me too
Me too, I have to disagree with her- this one seems much more exciting to me and overall just more beautifully sung
Elsa/Idina's version is charismatic, unforgettable, and moving.
I've never seen your videos before, so I don't know what your opinions are, but I feel like there's a lot of bias here. It feels like picking at a non-issue just to find a reason to critize Idina.
VGlauren same here
Okay, the reason she sings the three different vowels when she’s going “into the unknown” is because she’s mimicking the haunting voice that initially triggered her attention. It happens again in her other song Show Yourself. I’m not music expert but even I noticed that.
the aaaaaaaaaa was sang by Aurora the singer that looks like elsa
Yes and it’s beautiful!
She's incredible!, here's one of my fav live performances of Auroras, 2.42 😲 ruclips.net/video/CFzExUN1N8I/видео.html
into the unkown - Idina Menzel, AURORA
"Ah-ah-ah-ah"
"Is that Kristen?"
No one aknowledging Aurora makes me so sad.
With all due respect, i know this is your expertise but I could not budge off this thought... I'm sorry but i think you're biased.
Jiggy Daffon Panic! at the Disco sings with the exact same vowels as Idina. I just listened again to confirm. Totally biased opinion here.
How are Idina's fans not biased?
@@aracelichely2954 uhm hi. excuse me, but as far as i know, no one mentioned about fandoms. i meant her opinions 😅
@Hazeanna Willow I think that's a little over the line of the topic of my comment 😅. Everybody chill out. i just voiced out about how i think she's biased and that's it. don't take this comment out of context. thanks.
Araceli •Chely• I feel like the “idina fans” are biased to the Movie from which this song is from not Idina herself lol. Which is much more valid to say that this version is better than the Brendon one in my opinion. They did it as a pop cover and to show off his vocals not tell this story.
Honestly. I didn't come here for a comparison between Brendon Urie's cover and Idina Menzel's "version". Idina is an actress. The difference in the vowels exists so there can be more emotion and to make it sound bigger. I'm a huge Brendon Urie fan don't get me wrong here. But you can't compare two artists who had completely different outtakes from the song. Like you said in the beginning. It didn't sound like the same song because it simply is not. But that's just my opinion. But throwing shade towards a singer who's been doing broadway and comparing her to a pop singer is not cool. In broadway everything NEEDS to be loud and big and dramatic. Just my opinion though...
personally, i like the vowels. it sounds more exciting to me, but to each their own.
The fact that she couldnt tell the reason for the different pitches in the “unknown”, is actually surprising. Thought it was VERY easy to catch.
I don’t understand, are you saying it’s bad or different when she sings the main verse because I think it’s perfectly fine
I LOVE HER DIFFERENT VOWELS
I feel like she’s madly in love with Brendon Urie and has a weird issue with Idina, does she realise Idina’s is the original version and panic at the disco just covered it for the album? I don’t understand her issues here!
same here!
michael Skelton Right!? It's like her barely supressed anger towards Idina is showing here or something
@@maer_chen What anger? it's called criticism
@@katie5920 👏👏👏 ppl are just salty.
@@katie5920 you know you can be critical without being rude right? She’s rude.
You do realize the way she sings the last “unknown” in the chorus is a play off of the melody from the voice Elsa hears, right? It’s brilliantly written. Your ignorance is showing here. How embarrassing.
She needed to watch the movie and get the context of why it's being sung like that, but I guess it's easier to trash a highly respected and accomplished singer instead.
@@gracieloufreebush4899 Just the fact that she has a video in YT does not mean that she don't have experience. Idina's fans can be really haters some times. This girl is not even disrespectful, at least not for me.
she clearly said she didn't see the movie when the did brendon vid, so she gatta go see the movie as to why this song is sung the way it is.
Easy there. She's already said she hasn't seen the movie. She's not looking at it as a movie song, but as a song in itself. No need to be too harsh.
yeah
I love how she did the ah because she was recalling the "ah-ah-ah" throughout the song. Which has alot of meaning throughout the movie
Unpopular Opinion: Show Yourself is the new Let it Go.
Not an unpopular opinion. Most of the internet agrees.
I agree
I agree
but
I can see all the six year olds singing Into the Unknown more than Show Yourself
Yeet
This version is so much better, i honestly don’t know what your talking about, the weirdest ‘review’ of i song i’ve ever seen.
Libbi Butler honestly, i dont think she was able to catch what the song was supposed to be doing in the first part. Its very simple, and im surprised she didn’t understand it instantly. The song itself starts out with the pitch changes.
runerdude141 Exactly!! Can’t believe she couldn’t see that at all :/
this is the ORIGINAL version not his. Her’s has more emotion and sounds way more magical.
You have some serious hate towards her
I guess because she's being bias? You know, everyone has every favorite...and this vocal coach just loves Brendon Urie too much...just awful she can't appreciate Idina's prettier masterpiece because she don't know the whole story, and yeah being bias.
Whether she was forcing to get the high notes out or not, the change in vowels sounds good, it sounds like elsa.
She wasn't forcing it out the into the unknown on the last one was too match the call she was hearing
It didn’t even sound forced. She literally just chose to use a wide vowel sound. That’s not a technical problem. This lady just didn’t like it for whatever reason and hyper focused on it.
“Is that kristen bell”
Aurora: *am i a joke to you*
I enjoy both versions. They're different but equal to me. I came into this thinking I would prefer Brendon Urie's, but I think they're both really good. We don't have to make everything a competition at the end of the day. Thanks for sharing. Hers is more dramatic and gives the chill factor, and he is is definitely a much more exciting and fun and makes you feel that motivation for whatever it is we're supposed to be motivated for, LOL.
totally, the two versions serve very different purposes!
This is what happens when you don't watch the movie and listened to other's version first than the original.
yup
I mean I like both, and the Panic! At The Disco version made me want to actually watch the movie. Which is saying a lot, considering I hated the first Frozen
@@carlycchapman she's looking at this with the point of view of a vocal coach. It will always make a difference
To me it sounds like she isn't too balanced herself, based on her bias towards Idina...
After you watch the movie you’ll appreciate it more... after all it is a musical.
Edit: and also about the vowels, imo I like it, it kind of adds a little oomph. It adds that extra excitement and power. Imo at least
Yes also she is doing the Ah Ah we heard from thr voice. She is kind of reproducing the sound as to tell the voice that she is listening kind of answering back to the voice while singing
literally while watching 4:55 - 5:05 i just automatically laughed and said "shut up lmao"
Why tf are you comparing the ORIGINAL version to Uries version ? It should be the other way around.
Shes resonating and replying to the “call” i feel like maybe you shouldve understood the story or the song first
When you're saying that she's singing 3 different vowels, Idina is doing that because she's trying to copy the AH - AH - AH! Which is the voice she's hearing. Also, you can't say that Brandon Urie is the "original" one because Idina's version is, because it's from the Frozen 2 movie.
Idina is acting as well as singing. When she uses those vowels she is also mimicking the ah-ah-ah-ah in the movie that is calling her. You should try to watch the movie before you react to the songs. Also, I feel like you are viewing Brendon’s version as though it’s the original, which it isn’t. You can’t deny that Idina Menzel is a very special singer with her own style. I know people have already said these things before but I just want to say them again.
The vowels are different bcuz she wasn't just singing but she was also acting in the role of Elsa. And for a further reason she was answering the call that Aurora made in the beginning of the song. So it's different from Brandon's version and technically this isn't Idina's version at all. This is the original song from the original movie so it's a huge difference
The woman opening this song as the “siren” is credited as Aurora. It’s not Kristen Bell.
The haunted voice is by AURORA Norwegian singer ! She’s so good please react to herrrr. Her voice technique was phenomenal
When she said leave us a comment
I don’t think she expected so many negative comments lol
The three vowels match the “ah-ah-ah-ah” in the background... it’s not “the only way she can get through it.”
The high "ah"s are from a performer named "AURORA" shes amazing
I don’t think she realizes that Idina’s version came before Brendon’s
Idina has to go for the wider vowels in order to hit those notes. The notes are so hard all on their own, but Idina also has asthma, so that adds on extra strain when she's singing. Whatever vowel modifications she has to make in order to hit those notes, I say go for it. And, personally, I do like the "AH" vowel she uses with those third "Into the Unknown"s. I think it sounds good. That's my personal opinion, though. I do have extensive vocal training of my own, but I'm not an actual vocal coach, so obviously we're gonna differ on opinions with stuff. But then again, everyone has their own opinions on how songs are sung. Nothing wrong with that.
she has asthma? wow i literally never noticed! shes so talented
@@jessicaharris8575 Yeah, she used to tell a story about how back when she was starring as Elphaba in 'Wicked', there was a day when she had a major asthma attack while performing 'Defying Gravity'. She barely managed to finish the song, then as soon as it was over she had to rush off stage and was taken to the hospital by ambulance while still in full green makeup. It was crazy. All this hardcore singing she has to do for the original Frozen movie and Frozen 2 are not good for her. It's destroying her voice. She used to be absolutely amazing when singing live, and now she always sounds so raspy and her voice cracks and she can't do the high notes. I saw a video a few days ago of her singing I think it was 'Show Yourself', and she sounded horrible. You could just hear how much she was straining her voice just to get through it. I feel so bad for her. She has pushed herself way too much over the years, and her voice has payed the price for it. She only sounds good on recordings because they can have her sing the same thing a million times and then edit all those different recordings together so that you only hear the good takes.
Chronically Catholic aw now i feel terrible for her :(
@@jessicaharris8575 Yeah, it's really sad. She used to be a major powerhouse who could sing pretty much almost anything, and now she can barely sing at all. Most people just hear the Frozen soundtrack and think "Wow, she's amazing!", some will hear her live and think "What the heck is wrong with her voice? She's messing up on every note!", and then there are the few of us who know the sad truth. Frozen was the real beginning of the end. She was still so amazingly good at singing back when she did her last show on Broadway, which I think was 'If/Then', and then she stopped Broadway when she was cast as Elsa, and her voice now sounds nothing the way it did back then. I love both Frozen movies so much, but it's just heartbreaking when you know what these movies did to Idina's voice.
She does it on purpose
I like this version better. I feel like Brendon Urie’s is just him screaming
same. felt like brendon was resting on his P!ATD laurals. his version isnt as "emotional". I prefer Idina's version because it sounds more human, if that makes sense
Fact
I think thats not really a bad thing. Brendon covered this song with the means to sing the song, however idina sang it as a musical, as a disney movie. They both have different backgrounds in singing and i like that alot
That’s all he ever does though. It’s no different than the rest of his scream alongs.
you can talk whatever you want, at the end of the day it’s idina who sings the official version and it’s elsa voice.
thank you for saying this. the girl should really do research
step chickens will rise exactly
Guys, she did NOT say Indina Menzel's change of vowels was a problem! She said it was interesting.
thank you!
“Ah-ah-ah-ah,” “Into the unkn-ah-ah-ah-ahn.” The lines are supposed to communicate with each other. Also her wide vowel encompasses the vibe of a vast and cold openness, and the title of the song is “Into the Unknown,” ever been to a cold plain in the morning with a thick blanket of fog? Because Idina’s artistic choice in vowels perfectly illustrates such wonder. I prefer this version over Brandon Urie’s because it’s just thematically and narratively superior in my opinion, though both artists are truly talented.
who else think they intentionally use the vowel o by the end of the reff. so its sort of mimics "let it gooooo" "into the unknooooown"
This girl like
“Idina boring not interested, but BRENDON omGOD he sing HIGH and VOWELS OOOOHHHHH Oh my GOD I aM WETtT”
honestly sounds just like the rest of his fanbase. He could literally fart into a microphone and people would eat it up.
@@razrv3lc tbh his version for ME was boring and lackluster. Sure he can hit high notes but i didn't feel anything. Ftom idina,i got chills when she did the chorus and bridge. But with brendon,i didn't feel anything. It felt empty in a way. Now ofcourse this is just my opinion and you may feel different about it.
This is wrong on *so many* levels and yet, I'm laughing my head off.😂👌🏻
i love Idina’s vowels, they’re incredible. in my opinion, i like the way they put the vowels. its not as boring and it sounds really good.
edit: i feel like shes just making corrections of Idina’s because she listened to Brendon’s cover before the original.
I know literally nothing about music but I really like her vowel changes. I think it sounds a little more.. interesting? I love Brendon’s version as well. But I LOVE Idina’s! 😂
it sounds more emotional in Idina's version. As she is acting whilst singing.
The person singing the little melody is an artist called Aurora Aksnes and shes very talented
As a person with no singing or vocal training background, I interpreted her singing “unknown” that way as a way to match the siren’s notes. And I loved that part so much that I’ve listened the songs again and again just to hear her “unknown” match up with the siren’s “unknown”. It is truly magical and I didn’t see it as Idina’s inability to sing properly. I saw it as a clever way to make the story come alive. I know you critique is in a professional and theoretical way, but I love Idina’s version just how it is. More than half of population aren’t trained vocalists, so I’m pretty sure they will be able to feel the magic without seeing the fault too, just like I did
Never seen your channel before. You just popped up in my recommended. But based on this video alone…in the words of Remus Sanders…
I love how hard you try, it’s so cute.
Was it my impression or she was trying to throw some shade onto Idina’s vocals? Quick reminder: she is the original one, which means the other singers had her as their model to perform.
Chelsea: criticizes Idena
Dislike button: Imma bout to have a lot of action over here XD
Her: if I casually nod my head it will look like I’m actually listening
i feel like even if it was the only choice idina could make to get the notes out, even though i doubt it is,,,,,the vowels fit elsa’s so perfectly and honestly seeing the movie while listening vs just listening makes such a difference
The girl vocalizing at he begining of the song (and during the song aswell) isn't Kristen, it's Aurora, amazing singer, you should check her out
Just tbh but I really hated the way she “judged” this especially since she hasn’t even seen the movie. I’m pretty positive Idina could sing this song without changing the vowels but it makes the song much more fitting to the movie when she changes them.
Yeah! For goodness sake she's *the Elphaba* who sang Defying Gravity..!
Idina over anything, PERIODT
“LeTs SeE wHaT sHe DoEs WiTh ThEsE tHrEe VoWeLs”
It sounds like my girl has some personal vendetta against Idina Menzel...
Also she’s excited to hear her sing live so she can criticize her even more LOL
Please watch the film so you understand why she sings "unknown" like that, it's to answer the call she hears it's not because she "cant get through it", and I'm pretty sure Brendon Urie does the same thing? 🤔🙄 it's part of the story of the song and is beautiful😍
Brendon Urie’s version is more exciting is because it’s the pop/rock version of the more calm movie version.
Rock ≠ excitement. Idina’s. Version is emotional and exciting, Brendon’s is great but lacks the song’s meaning.
Or she made a stylistic choice because she’s going to be asked to belt this out non stop for the next year so she is saving her voice. Urie only needed to do it the once he can take the chance.
Her way of singing will actually take more of a toll on her voice than Brandon's. She pulls chest voice up too high, while Brandon mixes his chest and head registers to achieve strong, high notes with ease.
Actually a singer called Aurora did this parts "Ah-Ah-Ah" she's so talented you need to check her out!!!!!
To me this one is way better than Brendon’s
I like the "different vowels on the same word" because the lack of "perfection" is more enjoyable for me.
Everyone keeps saying she's biased as if it's a bad thing and she's not allowed to favour one over the other.
This is a react video - if it were a review, it would be wrong for her to be biased. Since it's not though, she can be biased and prefer one over the other.
She heard Brandon's first so maybe she prefered it and was expecting it to sound a lot like Brandon's.
There are people who are upset that she seemed biased against Idina and yet those same people insult Brandon's version as if it makes them right.
Not to mention but she complimented Idina but everyone else only wants to focus on the negatives.
Super Girl YES. Thank you, you sane person.
The 3 different vowels is because she’s responding to the “Ah ah ah”. In other words that’s how the song should be sang.
There's also the fact she's doing it in a characters voice
I actually love the 3 different vowels. And I like her version better.
The higher "ah-ah-ah-ah" is sung by a Norwegian singer called aurora. Hence why her name is credited in the end credits as "the voice" or something like that.
This song makes more sense with the scene it’s from. I like both versions 🤷♀️
Same, Brendon made me want to watch the movie, seeing the scene on RUclips made me want to watch the movie too, because it was visually amazing. Which says a lot, because I hated the first Frozen movie
Aurora's voice bring me here 😭 "ah-ah-ah" so beautiful 😭😭😭
also I just went and watched Brendons version and he does the exact same thing with the vowels
He sang “..into the unknaaaaaaaawn!” also
idk but i felt like you were the parent who isn’t yelling but giving you *im pissed* vibes
Do you think she does that because of the character?
Yes, I think many of her dynamic choices here are character-driven! Idina is a great actress and knows how to interpret a song. However, knowing her voice and body of work quite well, I think some of her vocal choices are also telling of what kind of technique she relies on to get to the high notes.
Girl you got a grudge against her or what? This was made specifically for her
Have to disagree with you hear. Should of listened to this version first. This version fits in with the film. So works better
Idina is amazing ❤❤
I mean, the different vowels are literally how Broadway singers are trained to sing. It's not worse...it's how I was taught to sing, it just makes it easier if you have to hit these crazy notes night after night and have them understandable and not chew up your throat. :P
What? This isn’t Brendons, it says in his video it’s a cover from THIS. This girl has an issue with Idina Menzel. She’s the original
this ‘vocal coach’ is just a brendon fangirl and acts like everything is about him.