I completely disagree w/ this video. Zenon is extremely well written and his motivation is great it's a nice justification for his actions I feel. Dante fills his "DBZ villain" esque role where he's just sort of a powerhouse evil because he's evil. Vonica is just hot bro like c'mon. Tabata is a genius for writing these villains into the story and I think they're a step up from the midnight sun in both Power & Writing like they are meant to be.
Personally I don't think a villain needs a justification for their actions. A simplistic villain can still create complex internal and external conflict within our main cast. Although I agree that the dark triad is a step down from Patri and his gang.
I agree, a character doesn’t need to have development or change or even justification to be good, but they need to at least have depth or narrative impact. Can’t and vanica have neither
An example of that would be Crocodile from One Piece imo. When he was the main antagonist, we knew noting about him (even now we know next to nothing). But he is still regarded as one of the best.
In my opinion they are good side villains because we have to remember cuz a lot of us in the anime Community mix-up antagonist and villain villains don't have to be overly complex antagonist do have to be there the ones that have the backstory similar to the main character and have a reason to why they became what they were
I agree with this video but the things I think he should do is like what he did with zenon but more for Dante and vanica is explain why they have these personality disorders why vanica is a physcopath maybe a deep compelling backstory with trauma or with Dante say he never was satisfied because he never satisfied others and made them happy with him so he went in to a depressed state where he thought the only way to cope is by feeling the same way others felt abt him to other people
I think the last sibling will have something to do with why Dante and vanica are the way they are and maybe he will make a return and be a great villain
Like you said it's makes them seem shallow but I believe that's the point not every person we have to expect to be overly complex some people even in the real world are shallow we already had overly complex antagonist / villains to the story I think people just don't understand what he was trying to do with the dark Triad they are villains but hey that's just my opinion I know a lot of people won't get what I'm trying to say
For me, Vanica was an annoying, below average character. Dante was a creepy, sadistic, average character. Zenon was a mysterious badass that we had no info on, so personally, I've liked Zenon the most because he was mysterious but no i like him more
Machiavellianism isn’t an ideology in this case it’s a personality trait referring to being cunning manipulative and ruthless. Signed a psych major who also studied Machiavelli. I should say the political ideology that stemmed from Machiavelli is also a horrible misconception of his beliefs and what he was saying
I don't think you understand what he was trying to do with zenon he has a bit of machiavellianism in him but it's also because of his weakness that he's projecting on other people that's week and because since his friend was weak he had to die for the betterment of everybody else
@@CFSpener I think you misunderstand what I mean by what I said in my opinion I don't have a problem with them I think they're fine you're okay to have your opinion about the situation I was just stating my opinion I think they're perfectly fine and I'm okay with them being Bland in that depth to them because some people are just like that
@@AskinNukkLeVarr I already know the disclaimer I'm giving my opinion just because his disclaimer says is just my opinion doesn't mean I can't give my opinion on his thoughts that's how opinions work
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I completely disagree w/ this video. Zenon is extremely well written and his motivation is great it's a nice justification for his actions I feel. Dante fills his "DBZ villain" esque role where he's just sort of a powerhouse evil because he's evil. Vonica is just hot bro like c'mon. Tabata is a genius for writing these villains into the story and I think they're a step up from the midnight sun in both Power & Writing like they are meant to be.
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Personally I don't think a villain needs a justification for their actions. A simplistic villain can still create complex internal and external conflict within our main cast. Although I agree that the dark triad is a step down from Patri and his gang.
I agree, a character doesn’t need to have development or change or even justification to be good, but they need to at least have depth or narrative impact. Can’t and vanica have neither
An example of that would be Crocodile from One Piece imo. When he was the main antagonist, we knew noting about him (even now we know next to nothing). But he is still regarded as one of the best.
If y’all don’t remember the Machiavellian guy, he’s the guy from assassin creed. 😌😂
Where there is destruction there must also be creation .....the video..... exceptional
In my opinion they are good side villains because we have to remember cuz a lot of us in the anime Community mix-up antagonist and villain villains don't have to be overly complex antagonist do have to be there the ones that have the backstory similar to the main character and have a reason to why they became what they were
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I agree with this video but the things I think he should do is like what he did with zenon but more for Dante and vanica is explain why they have these personality disorders why vanica is a physcopath maybe a deep compelling backstory with trauma or with Dante say he never was satisfied because he never satisfied others and made them happy with him so he went in to a depressed state where he thought the only way to cope is by feeling the same way others felt abt him to other people
I think the last sibling will have something to do with why Dante and vanica are the way they are and maybe he will make a return and be a great villain
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Like you said it's makes them seem shallow but I believe that's the point not every person we have to expect to be overly complex some people even in the real world are shallow we already had overly complex antagonist / villains to the story I think people just don't understand what he was trying to do with the dark Triad they are villains but hey that's just my opinion I know a lot of people won't get what I'm trying to say
For me, Vanica was an annoying, below average character. Dante was a creepy, sadistic, average character. Zenon was a mysterious badass that we had no info on, so personally, I've liked Zenon the most because he was mysterious but no i like him more
Machiavellianism isn’t an ideology in this case it’s a personality trait referring to being cunning manipulative and ruthless.
Signed a psych major who also studied Machiavelli.
I should say the political ideology that stemmed from Machiavelli is also a horrible misconception of his beliefs and what he was saying
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Video suggestion, can u add music in the background maybe its just me but it sounds weird to me when its just silent in the background
Xenon is clearly machiavellianism
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I don't think you understand what he was trying to do with zenon he has a bit of machiavellianism in him but it's also because of his weakness that he's projecting on other people that's week and because since his friend was weak he had to die for the betterment of everybody else
I think you should reread the disclaimer at the start of the video
@@CFSpener I think you misunderstand what I mean by what I said in my opinion I don't have a problem with them I think they're fine you're okay to have your opinion about the situation I was just stating my opinion I think they're perfectly fine and I'm okay with them being Bland in that depth to them because some people are just like that
@@saleeksmith4765 bro did you not read the disclaimer?😭
@@AskinNukkLeVarr I already know the disclaimer I'm giving my opinion just because his disclaimer says is just my opinion doesn't mean I can't give my opinion on his thoughts that's how opinions work
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I think the author is getting self aware and may not be trying as hard
U just hating 😳