I just saw Jiri’s instagram post and he said he’ll be back in 6 months. That would be the standard recovery for the usual shoulder dislocation surgery and makes more sense then the initial ‘one year or more’ timeline
Agree, I have 1 and 1/4 " of the bone sticking upward and the accident was 2/2017, and I thank my Shoulder Specialist for not recommending surgery, he reiterated the surgery could actually worsen the initial injury and I am able to do what I could before, only pain is tying shoes, and brushing my teeth.
Not about me, I am lucky, two dudes switched seats illegal and they crushed me, and the Dr said the required surgery would invade areas that aren't injured, and the only way to fix it is a full reconstruction, which is risking the chicken wing on the back, and it's a crazy surgery, I meant it as a joke, 99% of surgeons want to cut, cut, cut, and I was surprised to hear the complete opposite of what I was expecting. If it came of wrong, unintentional, for some odd reason I look deformed and tying my shoes and brushing my teeth hurt more than throwing a ball, punch, I was curious what the Dr would say. Believe me I woke up in the middle of the street saw the driver switch to passenger seat and I tried to swing at him, and it looked like What Happened to Sweet Dreams, I have no idea how I healed, shoulders are strange like Dr said. Believe me the last thing I would want to be about me was that injury, I need a bra for my left chest and the shoulder is the right and I feel crooked, my bad if it came across wrong, probably the strangest injury I've ever felt and the healing process put fwd by the DR. I Thought he was nuts. I hope Jiri doesn't have the ball injury, not about me trust me
@Ima about tobe koed Buckley face Is this the man, the myth, and the legend? Joaquim New Mensa Buckley? And I am not that person, I was looking at it in a completely unrelated way at first, Seeing Jiri relinquish his Strap and in my opinion I don't see Bones v.s Blaydes, and relinquishing immediately It makes me wonder if Jon Jones will fight Jan or Glover and upon Jiri's return the winner of the Interim Strap Fights Jiri, I am going off Chael P and his strong belief that Jiri v.s Glover 2 was the least rematch the UFC ever wanted to make, and truthfully I can't see Dana putting Jones v.s Blaydes simply because it's not a draw, My injury has 0 to do with this, but I am interested in any matchmaking moving forward, Jon v.s Jiri is insane $$, so until we hear facts we can only hope. Glover and Po Atan in camp is tough especially when 1 is a Champ and the 1 person who Alex has to make him improve quickly would be in camp, I think Jiri is injured, but it came out of nowhere, yea freak accidents happen, but he was stated that he was at the end of camp, and you know it's pretty hard to find out what is really going on. Please don't say all about me, I am not that person, I enjoy stirring up the pot, but injuries sustained in MMA, no, I don't go there. ✌️ and let's hope for the best possible match up possible. My bad if I came off wrong. If you are an MMA Fan I am with you.
Really hope he makes a full recovery. He's so young with an amazing career in front of him. God-tier athleticism, fights like a demon, unbreakable spirit and endlessly humble. The fact he's become so popular without trash talking or resorting to douche antics shows how much a true "it" factor he has. Get well, samurai.
I think we’ve all gotten to the point where anytime a guy gets injured in any sport the immediate thought is oh Doctor Brian’s gonna have that video up in a few minutes lol. You have become the authority on sports injury and have taught a lot of people a great deal. Can’t wait to see your incredible progress Doc.
What really fears me the most is what it will do to his mindset. Severe injuries can make fighters gun shy. I really hope he will be ok and comes back even better.
Thank you for this insight into what Jiri’s injury could be. It’s sad that it happened to someone so dedicated to his craft. One upside is that this will give his brain some time to heal.
@@leroyadler7756 I'd say they recover, but they don't really heal. Damaged part of the brain will remain damaged, but the rest of your brain can take over some functions normally regulated by that damaged part of the brain.
The insight you bring to MMA related injuries is so unique. Thanks for your analysis and wishing Jiri a speedy recovery, one of the most exciting fighters in the sport today.
As active as Jiri usually is about trying to avoid going all the way down when being taken down, I wouldn't be surprised if the mechanism was more like him being taken down and posting an extended arm to try to catch himself before landing completely on his back. Which depending on the positions of both people can greatly increase the chance for injury. Wouldn't it maybe also make more sense as to the severity of the injury, since those posting injuries typically involve the weight of both people being loaded all on the extended arm? In any case, such a shame to happen to such a classy warrior and great champion, who probably didn't even give a second thought to holding on to the title and risk holding up the division. Just hope he gets to heal at least close to 100% and make a comeback.
@- I think only slightly delayed but not held up. Glover refusing to fight somebody else for the title on short notice doesn't mean he will wait an entire year just to fight only Jiri. Only that in this situation, he really wanted the runback with Jiri and maybe didn't want a short notice shortcut to the title and opted to wait and see how bad it was with Jiri. Now that we know, Glover won't wait a year. He'll wait until both he and whoever gets the title will have a full camp and no excuses and he will hope to have the title when Jiri makes his comeback and they can rematch at that point. Jiri's out of the picture for now and even he himself would say whoever has and defends the belt will be the true champion.
I completely dislocated my elbow trying to take someone down once fuckin slipped and posted my arm out and both our weight just popped my elbow apart haha
If he landed inverted on that shoulder right in say a throw or grapple situation, It’s possible the ball was literally shoved into the socket with high enough unpack to dislocate it inward shearing the socket and causing fractures everywhere, ball, scapula and joint. Torn tendons, the works. If Dana says worst ever you have to think this was all out wrecked. May be career ending unfortunately. 😞
this is crazy sad. the man was finally reaching his prime, he's just been getting better and more mature and disciplined for years now in front of us until becoming the champ. Always amazes me how athletes are expected to come back, then perform after sustaining injuries that shut most of us down forever.
Athletes always downplay injuries so it doesn't hurt their value. When people say "it's really really bad", it often means that this was already an ongoing problem and it finally fell over the edge. I wonder if he's had shoulder issues before that went untreated or were rushed through recovery and now it all came back to bite them.
Same injury that kept me from playing football at Ohio State on full scholarship. Mine also had a torn biceps head and shattered collarbone. Had a Mumford procedure for the slap lesion along with two scope reconstruction after the Mumford. Half of my collarbone is gone and the rest was fused to another bone. The great Dr. Robert J Unverferth Sr performed the surgery. He was the OSU team Dr and orthopedic surgeon.
@@melgriffin3437 I was a running back but also was the wedge breaker on kickoffs. That night, the wedge lead guy for the other team happened to be well over 300 lbs and I was only 210 so I thought if I het him extra hard, he’d drop. I was wrong. It was like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. He got hurt too but my shoulder was completely destroyed. Worst move of my life. Ended my dream.
@@adamedwards2261 damn bro sorry to hear that. Stories like this is what really scares me bcos like a lot of the time it’s out of ur control. I’m 17 and I do mma and one of my biggest fears is like tearing my ACL or just injuring myself cos itd kinda ruin my dreams.
Today Dana just talked about it. It appeared hi dislocated his shoulder and a friend of him tried to pop it back right in and resulted in a shoulder destruction. I would like to see an update from this in your channel. I wish Dana is exaggerating! Thanks for the video
I recently suffered an axillary nerve injury from riding motocross. And let me tell you the pain of the injury is nothing I've ever experienced. And I'm 2 months post and my deltoid is still paralyzed. It is slowly coming back. But barely. My deltoid has already atrophied significantly. It really sucks. You don't realize how important the deltoid is until you lose it. It's hard to use your arm for pretty much anything. From brushing your teeth to showering. You literally cannot raise your arm in any direction. Even sleeping can be difficult because if you're lying on your back and won't to shift position you can't move your arm with you. You have to use your good arm to move your bad arm and adjust. So if the UFC is saying the worse they've ever seen. Wouldn't surprise me if it's an axillary nerve injury.
I've had a torn labrum for 2+years and now from this video I've finally seen what it is. The Drs can't explain it. They say it'll never heal, yet don't recommend surgery. Wtf am I suppose to do?
You're so reliable. I don't come here often, but when I need to learn about a specific injury, you're always on it. Thank you for staying on top of SO many sports
becareful tho, he's a physician, not a doctor. what he says is only from experience he's seen. he is not educated. RUclips usually mentions under a video if the channel owner is a Medical Doctor.
"It's very uncommon for somebody who's young to have a rotator cuff tear when the shoulder dislocates." Jiri is known to have extreme training sessions, like punching a tree 500 times a day... Could this kind of training damage his shoulders and cause injuries like these?
Even if he did recovery time for something like is incredably short and would not be cause for vacating the belt. It simply wouldnt hold up the division he would be out from either 2 to 3 months at most. Furthermore it would not require any rehab either.
I threw a weird overhead punch over a year ago with full force and while I was cold. Due to previous impingement I have had in my shoulders due to a lot of boxing my subscapularis tendon totally tore off the arm bone and retracted and also my bicep tendon ruptured. Was real strange seeing my arm just drop out of the air before it found its target mid punch and then the unbelievable pain set in like electric shocks non stop shooting up my arm. Hate to say it but it was in a street fight, I managed to follow up with a hook that backed the guy away which was lucky because I couldn’t move my arm after that, then we went our separate ways. I’m abit embarrassed about it as I’m a 52 year old father so I tell people it happened in a fall. Had major surgery and has taken me a year to recover and finally get back in the gym again. I have a feeling Jiris injury might be similar, you have to be careful throwing weird angle punches with force. I didn’t start the fight it was a random asshole looking for trouble, a lot of them around lately.
I did all of the above pushing someone’s car uphill when it was stuck on snow/ice. I slipped, Shoulder popped out, & then I “stiff-armed” the car from a prone position to prevent getting ran over.
I have a theory. Posterior dislocation. These only happen in about 10% of cases and the classic story you hear is from getting hit by lightning. My man was deep into practicing Bushido one night and was hit by lightning. Its the only explanation
Posterior dislocation is a great thought but his managers comments suggest they popped it back in but it came out again. I don’t think they’d have been able to reduce a posterior dislocation But yes, lightning
During a seizure I dislocated my shoulder and suffered a fractured humerus, back a few month ago (august) , and bone is completely healed now. doing PT. Having a hard time still lifting my arm up and out to the side. They are trying to send me back to the specialist for an MRI.
I wondered if Dana was exaggerating here... Jiri made a follow-up up vid outside in a parking lot ..looked fine with no major notifiable pain. Wasn't in a sling or laying in bed. Very curious what it truly could be. .great breakdown !
He definitely was just to give some sympathy to Jiri which I dont think he needed much since he's a fan-favorite to begin with. It doesn't sound like an all-time worst injury especially for mma, but it could be
Anyone else suspect Dr Sutterer sleeps with an ironed shirt and tie next to the bed, ready to roll? Anytime there's an injury in any sport, seemingly anywhere, doc is ON IT!
One thing you said was a lower impact setting in practice. In grappling, you really grapple at 100%. Striking is toned back but grappling is pretty much full force.
I feel like shoulder injuries get poo pooed by some people in sports but especially by analysts and the media. They don’t realize how much the shoulder does and is relied upon and how bad they are. Just as bad as torn knee ligaments and other injuries like that.
Had it done to me in judo and its about a year out for surgery and recovery. We won't see Jiri untill feb-march 2024, maybe if he goes on TRT for recovery/stem cells all that crap we might be able to see him nov/dec 2023
@@tylerbaxter4199 still makes this clicking sound and gets sore if I sleep on that shoulder but still got good range of motion but I've been dead hanging alot of the bar and find that helps alot as well.
My shoulder is wrecked… wrestled for 8 years, coached wrestling for 2 years, did Competitive grappling for 2 years, Im 36, and looking into a shoulder replacement….. because my shoulder is just, as the doctors called it, “Slop”… I am way too young to get a shoulder replacement… but I have about a 1 1/2 “ sag between my humeral head and where my arm should be, after a slap tear repair in February of 2020…. And my humerus can move forward and back about an inch in each direction when at rest… MRI Saturday Dec 10th, would love to keep you updated as I am now on the 7th surgeon to review my injury.
Training is often very intense. Simulating the actual fight is key to achieve confidence. Jiri is my favorite fighter to come along in a long time. Looking forward to his return. He's not like a McGregor. He'll be back better and actually train in his off time.
Also important to note that the Axillary nerve provides motor innervation to the entire Deltoid as well as one of the key External Rotators of the Rotator Cuff, the Teres Minor. Thank you for your work Brian!!!
He Injured the shoulder in the 1st Glover fight. It sounds like maybe they thought it was okay and Jiri worked through a lot of pain instead of getting another opinion and it never fully healed and now pretty much everything is compromised but that's just a rumor I heard from my friend who got signed to the UFC a couple months ago
@James Marshal I didn't notice it either, but apparently his shoulder had popped out of socket during the first fight. I haven't been able to rewatch it yet to confirm but it was towards the end of the fight
@Am S Blake told me that a broken hand was apart of the Injury too. I mean its all speculation but that serious of a shoulder injury seems like a case of "I'm hurt, not Injured. Biggest fight of my life, I'm the baddest man on the planet, this shoulder ache can't hurt me" type of thing and eventually the damn socket gave out. I still haven't looked for anything new on this or not
Just had SCR on my left rotator last week. Gonna be out MIA for a while... Just when I was landing 44in box jumps with EASE, training MMA and lifting decent weight...
i hope he heals and comes back, such a entertaining fighter he is. Coincidentally my left shoulder that was hurting for some years has healed a week ago, loks like maybe i can improve my calisthenics skills a bit, nice. It pays to do shoulder conditioning regularly. Take care people and have a nice day.
I have a 5th °tear and some nerve damage and I was hit by a SUV Going 50 mph, and my Dr recommended not to have surgery, I am fine except for the distorted look, saying that a cadavers Ligaments, and whatever else will never be as strong as mine
I’m going to guess and anterior shoulder dislocation, Hill-Sachs deformity and Bankart lesion. The Bankart lesion would coincide with the expected duration of recovery time. Good luck and speedy recovery, Jiri.
daaaang, Jiri had his style figured out, now to have this kind of a set back, hope he heals fully. He could make his family a lot of money with his talent.
That sucks, Jiri is one of favorites already. He makes it through a bunch of crazy ass warrior to warrior fights ok,but destroys his shoulder in practice.
Yes, you can strengthen the muscles around your shoulder; however if you have instability with a dislocated shoulder, you need additional treatment-PRP or surgery. If you don't it will eventually dislocated again and again. I've had 3 shoulder dislocations over 30 years ago. It wasn't until I had surgery the shoulder dislocations stopped. If your older and inactive, you may get away with not having additional treatment. If not, your asking for additional pain, which it was the most painful injury I've had by 10 fold. I have broken my ankle and arm.
I have 7 dislocation and 2 surgery of right shoulder, dislocation in every direction, most difficult is when shoulder goes out in back, that's tough uhhhh. When shoulder in out one time, is injury for a lifetime 😕 But I believe in you and your spirit, I know that you are strong, so wish you all the best, you can do it!
Great content as always.. I will say having some years of BJJ and some amateur MMA experience; Dr. Sutterer should be aware this is a combat sports and grappling is very regularly practiced at 100% effort, fans should never be surprised that serious injuries come from the training room. I understand this may seem odd to sports fans of games like NFL etc where full blast isn't happening in practice but grappling specifically is unique that is usually "all good" to good hard, until it's not.
Shoulder injuries are horrible. I have 4 incisions on my shoulder where doctors put anchors, I also I have a good fracture on the head of the humorous.
Francis is most egregious imo, fights once a year and will not clearly state what his future with the UFC looks like yet he holds onto that belt for dear life
I think, Dana said purposly this injury is the most serious, so he can justify taking the belt from Jiří. Recovery can be from 6months, so i dont believe that Jiří would vacant the title so easily (thinking i will not fight for 2 years..) IT is not basically his decision.
I sense he must training with prior rotary cuff, shoulder injury which now puts him out. Recently tj dillashaw fought with a terrible shoulder injury which pop out several time in his last fight, which left him with one hand in the entire fight. He fought 3 rounds with one hand and lost on the fight score. Jiri saw the tea leaves and knew it was better to withdraw from the fight. He made the right decision to cancel and heal.
I cannot ever see him fighting Glover again i think he knows deep down he Has no chance against Glover and he doesn't want to lose to older guy it would end his career.
This is why these fighters need to get paid more. One can get paid scraps all their career, become the champ and in position for big money and then BAM, they get a serious injury which derails their career.
I just saw Jiri’s instagram post and he said he’ll be back in 6 months. That would be the standard recovery for the usual shoulder dislocation surgery and makes more sense then the initial ‘one year or more’ timeline
Interesting he's not in a sling though. Usually need 4-6 weeks post reduction no?
he's being super optimistic but his own team said he'll most likely be out for a year or more
Agree, I have 1 and 1/4 " of the bone sticking upward and the accident was 2/2017, and I thank my Shoulder Specialist for not recommending surgery, he reiterated the surgery could actually worsen the initial injury and I am able to do what I could before, only pain is tying shoes, and brushing my teeth.
Not about me, I am lucky, two dudes switched seats illegal and they crushed me, and the Dr said the required surgery would invade areas that aren't injured, and the only way to fix it is a full reconstruction, which is risking the chicken wing on the back, and it's a crazy surgery, I meant it as a joke, 99% of surgeons want to cut, cut, cut, and I was surprised to hear the complete opposite of what I was expecting. If it came of wrong, unintentional, for some odd reason I look deformed and tying my shoes and brushing my teeth hurt more than throwing a ball, punch, I was curious what the Dr would say. Believe me I woke up in the middle of the street saw the driver switch to passenger seat and I tried to swing at him, and it looked like What Happened to Sweet Dreams, I have no idea how I healed, shoulders are strange like Dr said. Believe me the last thing I would want to be about me was that injury, I need a bra for my left chest and the shoulder is the right and I feel crooked, my bad if it came across wrong, probably the strangest injury I've ever felt and the healing process put fwd by the DR. I Thought he was nuts. I hope Jiri doesn't have the ball injury, not about me trust me
@Ima about tobe koed Buckley face Is this the man, the myth, and the legend? Joaquim New Mensa Buckley? And I am not that person, I was looking at it in a completely unrelated way at first, Seeing Jiri relinquish his Strap and in my opinion I don't see Bones v.s Blaydes, and relinquishing immediately It makes me wonder if Jon Jones will fight Jan or Glover and upon Jiri's return the winner of the Interim Strap Fights Jiri, I am going off Chael P and his strong belief that Jiri v.s Glover 2 was the least rematch the UFC ever wanted to make, and truthfully I can't see Dana putting Jones v.s Blaydes simply because it's not a draw, My injury has 0 to do with this, but I am interested in any matchmaking moving forward, Jon v.s Jiri is insane $$, so until we hear facts we can only hope. Glover and Po Atan in camp is tough especially when 1 is a Champ and the 1 person who Alex has to make him improve quickly would be in camp, I think Jiri is injured, but it came out of nowhere, yea freak accidents happen, but he was stated that he was at the end of camp, and you know it's pretty hard to find out what is really going on. Please don't say all about me, I am not that person, I enjoy stirring up the pot, but injuries sustained in MMA, no, I don't go there. ✌️ and let's hope for the best possible match up possible. My bad if I came off wrong. If you are an MMA Fan I am with you.
Props to Jiri for voluntarily vacating the belt to avoid holding up the division.
he knew he would get ragdolled
Man. There are always @-holes when you DONT need them.
@@takoflame4948 easy
He will get a title as soon as hes back to full health
@@takoflame4948 reason why casuals need a separate YT
Really hope he makes a full recovery. He's so young with an amazing career in front of him. God-tier athleticism, fights like a demon, unbreakable spirit and endlessly humble. The fact he's become so popular without trash talking or resorting to douche antics shows how much a true "it" factor he has. Get well, samurai.
@@harryballs3445 like you, give up. Its not worth it dude ÷)
@Harry Balls thank you for the input harry balls!
Unlike a knee that goes forward and back,
A shoulder moves in every direction and never heels properly
Hes going to struggle drinking a cup of coffee with that arm. Now he has earthworm athletic ability with that arm.
I think we’ve all gotten to the point where anytime a guy gets injured in any sport the immediate thought is oh Doctor Brian’s gonna have that video up in a few minutes lol. You have become the authority on sports injury and have taught a lot of people a great deal. Can’t wait to see your incredible progress Doc.
Very true, I go right to his page instead of searching for any sports injury I hear about.
This man has interns/informers in every sport😀
Yeah yet he knew nothing about Adesanyas titty and still made missinformative video, how can you call him a authority?
What really fears me the most is what it will do to his mindset. Severe injuries can make fighters gun shy. I really hope he will be ok and comes back even better.
Jiri is such a warrior. Love that guy
Yeah, he's a samurai for sure.
Yah i like that dude .I will watch him fight everytime. I hope ufc will shoulder his hospitalization
Yeah, i'm pretty sure he will still train like maniac with one hand
Facts he’s freak of nature!
LMAO
Dude jiri gives me goosebumps when he enters the octagon. Man jiri stay strong brother and can’t wait to see you back in the game
This one was sad to hear about! Wishing Jiri a swift recovery.
Thanks for the insight Dr!
Thank you for this insight into what Jiri’s injury could be. It’s sad that it happened to someone so dedicated to his craft. One upside is that this will give his brain some time to heal.
brain dont heal
@@robert.....................- like at all?
@@leroyadler7756 I'd say they recover, but they don't really heal. Damaged part of the brain will remain damaged, but the rest of your brain can take over some functions normally regulated by that damaged part of the brain.
I think we need to acknowledge the strong possibility that Dana is just full of shit
2021 was the year for legs, 2022 is the year of shoulders
True. Didn't think about that
Poetic
Idk man.....22' was pretty tough on knees too!
The insight you bring to MMA related injuries is so unique. Thanks for your analysis and wishing Jiri a speedy recovery, one of the most exciting fighters in the sport today.
As active as Jiri usually is about trying to avoid going all the way down when being taken down, I wouldn't be surprised if the mechanism was more like him being taken down and posting an extended arm to try to catch himself before landing completely on his back. Which depending on the positions of both people can greatly increase the chance for injury. Wouldn't it maybe also make more sense as to the severity of the injury, since those posting injuries typically involve the weight of both people being loaded all on the extended arm?
In any case, such a shame to happen to such a classy warrior and great champion, who probably didn't even give a second thought to holding on to the title and risk holding up the division. Just hope he gets to heal at least close to 100% and make a comeback.
@- I think only slightly delayed but not held up. Glover refusing to fight somebody else for the title on short notice doesn't mean he will wait an entire year just to fight only Jiri. Only that in this situation, he really wanted the runback with Jiri and maybe didn't want a short notice shortcut to the title and opted to wait and see how bad it was with Jiri.
Now that we know, Glover won't wait a year. He'll wait until both he and whoever gets the title will have a full camp and no excuses and he will hope to have the title when Jiri makes his comeback and they can rematch at that point. Jiri's out of the picture for now and even he himself would say whoever has and defends the belt will be the true champion.
@@xaininpc5625 Glover is the type of fighter that needs a game plan for a target fighter.
I completely dislocated my elbow trying to take someone down once fuckin slipped and posted my arm out and both our weight just popped my elbow apart haha
@@digitaltennisshoes isnt that like every fighter tho? Plus hes already 43 so cant blame him on that
If he landed inverted on that shoulder right in say a throw or grapple situation, It’s possible the ball was literally shoved into the socket with high enough unpack to dislocate it inward shearing the socket and causing fractures everywhere, ball, scapula and joint. Torn tendons, the works. If Dana says worst ever you have to think this was all out wrecked. May be career ending unfortunately. 😞
Every other champ holds up the division with surgery without a thought. Jiri is the samurai.
this is crazy sad. the man was finally reaching his prime, he's just been getting better and more mature and disciplined for years now in front of us until becoming the champ.
Always amazes me how athletes are expected to come back, then perform after sustaining injuries that shut most of us down forever.
Athletes always downplay injuries so it doesn't hurt their value. When people say "it's really really bad", it often means that this was already an ongoing problem and it finally fell over the edge. I wonder if he's had shoulder issues before that went untreated or were rushed through recovery and now it all came back to bite them.
I've had shoulder problems my whole life they pop out then back in alot, now that I'm older its constantly herting and weak.
Same injury that kept me from playing football at Ohio State on full scholarship. Mine also had a torn biceps head and shattered collarbone. Had a Mumford procedure for the slap lesion along with two scope reconstruction after the Mumford. Half of my collarbone is gone and the rest was fused to another bone. The great Dr. Robert J Unverferth Sr performed the surgery. He was the OSU team Dr and orthopedic surgeon.
How did the injury happen if u don’t mind me asking
@@melgriffin3437 I was a running back but also was the wedge breaker on kickoffs. That night, the wedge lead guy for the other team happened to be well over 300 lbs and I was only 210 so I thought if I het him extra hard, he’d drop. I was wrong. It was like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. He got hurt too but my shoulder was completely destroyed. Worst move of my life. Ended my dream.
@@adamedwards2261 damn bro sorry to hear that. Stories like this is what really scares me bcos like a lot of the time it’s out of ur control. I’m 17 and I do mma and one of my biggest fears is like tearing my ACL or just injuring myself cos itd kinda ruin my dreams.
Today Dana just talked about it. It appeared hi dislocated his shoulder and a friend of him tried to pop it back right in and resulted in a shoulder destruction.
I would like to see an update from this in your channel. I wish Dana is exaggerating!
Thanks for the video
Very informative and useful breakdown, always a pleasure learning from your videos Doc
The speed of posting is only exceeded by the quality of info: thanks!
I recently suffered an axillary nerve injury from riding motocross. And let me tell you the pain of the injury is nothing I've ever experienced. And I'm 2 months post and my deltoid is still paralyzed. It is slowly coming back. But barely. My deltoid has already atrophied significantly. It really sucks. You don't realize how important the deltoid is until you lose it. It's hard to use your arm for pretty much anything. From brushing your teeth to showering. You literally cannot raise your arm in any direction. Even sleeping can be difficult because if you're lying on your back and won't to shift position you can't move your arm with you. You have to use your good arm to move your bad arm and adjust. So if the UFC is saying the worse they've ever seen. Wouldn't surprise me if it's an axillary nerve injury.
Brian Sutterer is so quick and accurate with these videos I'm starting to think he's responsible in some way...
I've had a torn labrum for 2+years and now from this video I've finally seen what it is. The Drs can't explain it. They say it'll never heal, yet don't recommend surgery. Wtf am I suppose to do?
You're so reliable. I don't come here often, but when I need to learn about a specific injury, you're always on it. Thank you for staying on top of SO many sports
becareful tho, he's a physician, not a doctor. what he says is only from experience he's seen. he is not educated. RUclips usually mentions under a video if the channel owner is a Medical Doctor.
Was hoping you'd make a video about this!
"It's very uncommon for somebody who's young to have a rotator cuff tear when the shoulder dislocates."
Jiri is known to have extreme training sessions, like punching a tree 500 times a day... Could this kind of training damage his shoulders and cause injuries like these?
Yes
What did the tree ever do to him?
Even if he did recovery time for something like is incredably short and would not be cause for vacating the belt. It simply wouldnt hold up the division he would be out from either 2 to 3 months at most. Furthermore it would not require any rehab either.
I have this same injury and have major issues throwing punches now. Constant dislocation and pain. I’ll need to have my shoulder surgically repaired.
Note this is “Doctor” Dana White saying it is the “worst”
It’s the “worst” because Dana is trying to find a way to justify killin an already garbage PPV.
Volk is the backup
Casual
I threw a weird overhead punch over a year ago with full force and while I was cold. Due to previous impingement I have had in my shoulders due to a lot of boxing my subscapularis tendon totally tore off the arm bone and retracted and also my bicep tendon ruptured. Was real strange seeing my arm just drop out of the air before it found its target mid punch and then the unbelievable pain set in like electric shocks non stop shooting up my arm. Hate to say it but it was in a street fight, I managed to follow up with a hook that backed the guy away which was lucky because I couldn’t move my arm after that, then we went our separate ways. I’m abit embarrassed about it as I’m a 52 year old father so I tell people it happened in a fall. Had major surgery and has taken me a year to recover and finally get back in the gym again. I have a feeling Jiris injury might be similar, you have to be careful throwing weird angle punches with force.
I didn’t start the fight it was a random asshole looking for trouble, a lot of them around lately.
I hear ya. I've had shoulder issues from throwing punches as well as grappling. Glad you were able to get out of that scrape.
Jiri will never be the same again. Such a shame
I did all of the above pushing someone’s car uphill when it was stuck on snow/ice.
I slipped, Shoulder popped out, & then I “stiff-armed” the car from a prone position to prevent getting ran over.
Just found this page and as a manual therapist this is so interesting and useful!
I would love a video on the AC joint and AC separation. I know all about it but I just love the way you present things.
Jiri had fight once with torn ACL, and still managed to win
bro i was so pumped for this fight😭
I have a theory. Posterior dislocation. These only happen in about 10% of cases and the classic story you hear is from getting hit by lightning. My man was deep into practicing Bushido one night and was hit by lightning. Its the only explanation
Posterior dislocation is a great thought but his managers comments suggest they popped it back in but it came out again. I don’t think they’d have been able to reduce a posterior dislocation
But yes, lightning
Best theory I've heard 🤣
They said there was a hole somewhere that it dislocated and trainers messed it up trying to put it back in by pulling on it.
Thanks for the detail Brian!
I love how DR stutterers always fast with videos, the injury just happened and Dr has already on top of it with an immediate video...
Man, I love watching Jiri fight. He's got so much heart, and so much respect. one of my favorite fighters.
During a seizure I dislocated my shoulder and suffered a fractured humerus, back a few month ago (august) , and bone is completely healed now. doing PT. Having a hard time still lifting my arm up and out to the side. They are trying to send me back to the specialist for an MRI.
I wondered if Dana was exaggerating here...
Jiri made a follow-up up vid outside in a parking lot ..looked fine with no major notifiable pain. Wasn't in a sling or laying in bed.
Very curious what it truly could be. .great breakdown !
He definitely was just to give some sympathy to Jiri which I dont think he needed much since he's a fan-favorite to begin with. It doesn't sound like an all-time worst injury especially for mma, but it could be
Anyone else suspect Dr Sutterer sleeps with an ironed shirt and tie next to the bed, ready to roll? Anytime there's an injury in any sport, seemingly anywhere, doc is ON IT!
Really FINE info on ALL your presentations !!
Thanks Dr. Sutterer
( I'll be back )
Any other fighter in UFC would have held the belt hostage. Ultimate respect for Jiri vacating the title👊
One thing you said was a lower impact setting in practice. In grappling, you really grapple at 100%. Striking is toned back but grappling is pretty much full force.
wrestling yes bjj not so much
@@donniedoesdishes We don’t rip submissions by any means but when preparing to compete, it’s pretty hardcore. Lol
I feel like shoulder injuries get poo pooed by some people in sports but especially by analysts and the media. They don’t realize how much the shoulder does and is relied upon and how bad they are. Just as bad as torn knee ligaments and other injuries like that.
Thank You Brian for starting my way to massage therapy and advances neuro muscular therapy :)
Had it done to me in judo and its about a year out for surgery and recovery. We won't see Jiri untill feb-march 2024, maybe if he goes on TRT for recovery/stem cells all that crap we might be able to see him nov/dec 2023
How was it after all the recovery and rehab?
@@tylerbaxter4199 still makes this clicking sound and gets sore if I sleep on that shoulder but still got good range of motion but I've been dead hanging alot of the bar and find that helps alot as well.
My shoulder is wrecked… wrestled for 8 years, coached wrestling for 2 years, did Competitive grappling for 2 years, Im 36, and looking into a shoulder replacement….. because my shoulder is just, as the doctors called it, “Slop”… I am way too young to get a shoulder replacement… but I have about a 1 1/2 “ sag between my humeral head and where my arm should be, after a slap tear repair in February of 2020…. And my humerus can move forward and back about an inch in each direction when at rest… MRI Saturday Dec 10th, would love to keep you updated as I am now on the 7th surgeon to review my injury.
That sucks for Jiri and to all of his fans. He is the ultimate man for vacating the belt, not too many other fighters would do that.
Thanks for insight Doc. You rock!🤘
Training is often very intense. Simulating the actual fight is key to achieve confidence. Jiri is my favorite fighter to come along in a long time. Looking forward to his return. He's not like a McGregor. He'll be back better and actually train in his off time.
Active recovery
DW keeps extra HYPERBOLE in his pockets just in case
Props for not going out like TJ , heal up champ
Jiri is a beast. He will come stronger.
Also important to note that the Axillary nerve provides motor innervation to the entire Deltoid as well as one of the key External Rotators of the Rotator Cuff, the Teres Minor. Thank you for your work Brian!!!
I did fracture my left shoulder and after one year I am starting getting better but pain is there... With fitness is getting better!
I bet he is going to require a latarjet procedure due to a torn labrum, capsule and bone loss. Will require significant rehab.
Been waiting for this video since I heard about the injury
I just can't believe Glover passed on the chance to regain the title in a rematch with Jan.
yeahh so weird or probably it would be against ankalaev
They offered him only Ankalaev on 12/10 since he’d already beaten Blachowicz
Fuck. This is devastating news. I was really looking forward to watching Jiri go on a several title defences run.
These videos are awesome! A great way to combine current sporting stars difficulties with excellent medical speculation to educate the general public.
Damn respect to you for being so quick with it
He Injured the shoulder in the 1st Glover fight. It sounds like maybe they thought it was okay and Jiri worked through a lot of pain instead of getting another opinion and it never fully healed and now pretty much everything is compromised but that's just a rumor I heard from my friend who got signed to the UFC a couple months ago
What was the injury from the first fight?
@James Marshal I didn't notice it either, but apparently his shoulder had popped out of socket during the first fight. I haven't been able to rewatch it yet to confirm but it was towards the end of the fight
I thought it was his hand he broke? Not the shoulder but i dont know
@Am S Blake told me that a broken hand was apart of the Injury too. I mean its all speculation but that serious of a shoulder injury seems like a case of "I'm hurt, not Injured. Biggest fight of my life, I'm the baddest man on the planet, this shoulder ache can't hurt me" type of thing and eventually the damn socket gave out. I still haven't looked for anything new on this or not
Nice work doc. I enjoy the "break" downs! ....... May everyone in your videos heal well.
Just had SCR on my left rotator last week. Gonna be out MIA for a while... Just when I was landing 44in box jumps with EASE, training MMA and lifting decent weight...
i hope he heals and comes back, such a entertaining fighter he is. Coincidentally my left shoulder that was hurting for some years has healed a week ago, loks like maybe i can improve my calisthenics skills a bit, nice. It pays to do shoulder conditioning regularly. Take care people and have a nice day.
Thanks for the videos doc! 🙏
This man must have made 50,000 new subs just off mma fans this year whose favorite fighter dislocated their knee from a gust of wind or something
So interesting. Thanks
Nice info. obviously a UFC fan if he understands Dana's tendency to exaggerate. First video I've seen and now a new subscriber. Thanks.
Most injuries fighters sustain that are of a higher severity are most often in training camps.
Thank you for the Content Doc !
I have a 5th °tear and some nerve damage and I was hit by a SUV Going 50 mph, and my Dr recommended not to have surgery, I am fine except for the distorted look, saying that a cadavers Ligaments, and whatever else will never be as strong as mine
I’m going to guess and anterior shoulder dislocation, Hill-Sachs deformity and Bankart lesion. The Bankart lesion would coincide with the expected duration of recovery time. Good luck and speedy recovery, Jiri.
daaaang, Jiri had his style figured out, now to have this kind of a set back, hope he heals fully. He could make his family a lot of money with his talent.
Thanks doc
After watching this I'm basically a doctor rn
worst injury sounds like a spiraled compound fracture. and hopefully that's not it! wishing a good recovery to Jiri
It's been said that they made a mistake when they tried to pop the shoulder back into place!
Did you do a video comparing Aaron Pico's and TJ Dillashaw's recent injuries?
Maybe a video comparing those two and this one?
Yes! I will watch sports med while I am cooking the turkey because why not
Tragic! The guy with the biggest heart and most entertaining style is out from training injury.
That sucks, Jiri is one of favorites already. He makes it through a bunch of crazy ass warrior to warrior fights ok,but destroys his shoulder in practice.
Having a normal shoulder dislocation. Is there workouts to strengthen the muscle around it?
Yes, you can strengthen the muscles around your shoulder; however if you have instability with a dislocated shoulder, you need additional treatment-PRP or surgery. If you don't it will eventually dislocated again and again. I've had 3 shoulder dislocations over 30 years ago. It wasn't until I had surgery the shoulder dislocations stopped. If your older and inactive, you may get away with not having additional treatment. If not, your asking for additional pain, which it was the most painful injury I've had by 10 fold. I have broken my ankle and arm.
I have 7 dislocation and 2 surgery of right shoulder, dislocation in every direction, most difficult is when shoulder goes out in back, that's tough uhhhh. When shoulder in out one time, is injury for a lifetime 😕 But I believe in you and your spirit, I know that you are strong, so wish you all the best, you can do it!
As far as we know Jiri has never had a shoulder injury. Maybe he was advised to do the surgery right away. Maybe that's better for his career.
Thumbs up for the good doctor.
Dana White would never exaggerate anything either
Great content as always.. I will say having some years of BJJ and some amateur MMA experience; Dr. Sutterer should be aware this is a combat sports and grappling is very regularly practiced at 100% effort, fans should never be surprised that serious injuries come from the training room.
I understand this may seem odd to sports fans of games like NFL etc where full blast isn't happening in practice but grappling specifically is unique that is usually "all good" to good hard, until it's not.
Update: Apparently Jiri’s camp tried to pop his shoulder back in several times before going to the hospital and completely fucked it up.
Shoulder injuries are horrible. I have 4 incisions on my shoulder where doctors put anchors, I also I have a good fracture on the head of the humorous.
Massive props to Jiri, while Aljo and Francis are MILKING their belts dry
Francis is most egregious imo, fights once a year and will not clearly state what his future with the UFC looks like yet he holds onto that belt for dear life
I think, Dana said purposly this injury is the most serious, so he can justify taking the belt from Jiří. Recovery can be from 6months, so i dont believe that Jiří would vacant the title so easily (thinking i will not fight for 2 years..) IT is not basically his decision.
Dana: This is the worst shoulder injury in UFC history
TJ Dillashaw: Hold my Mr. Potato Head arm
did they disclose the exact diagnosis to the public yet? I still wonder what he has exactly
I sense he must training with prior rotary cuff, shoulder injury which now puts him out. Recently tj dillashaw fought with a terrible shoulder injury which pop out several time in his last fight, which left him with one hand in the entire fight. He fought 3 rounds with one hand and lost on the fight score. Jiri saw the tea leaves and knew it was better to withdraw from the fight. He made the right decision to cancel and heal.
no evidence, no proof. I've yet to see any proof of the actual injury.
I cannot ever see him fighting Glover again i think he knows deep down he
Has no chance against Glover and he doesn't want to lose to older guy it would end his career.
This is why these fighters need to get paid more. One can get paid scraps all their career, become the champ and in position for big money and then BAM, they get a serious injury which derails their career.